The Unsolved True Crime Iceberg Explained 

I mean, I don’t see it any other way

it's the only plausable explanation.

He must have caught himself by surprise.

Lol, I'm in danger.

Trust no one, not even yourself 😳🔫👈😔

Overrated comment

@@thatfunkyduck Rates comment

Speed run

reminds me of the dyatlov pass cases being declared a suicide lmao "oh, so you say they had abnormal bruising and missing eyes?" "yep" "definitely suicide"

This was obviously a murder no person could commit suicide in that way. Hack of an arm or both yeah that’s possible same with the legs. Most people however would pass out from pain and blood loss on the first arm

No bc the D.B cooper case is so odd to me? Like he was so casual abt it like wtf I know ppl on board probably were so incredibly confused yet glad, like “hey ik he’s kinda hijacking the plane but at least he’s nice

professionals have standards

@@Spacingout3000Judging by his actions this probably wasn’t his first robbery. There is no way you just bring a bomb and steal thousands of dollars and act this casual if it’s your first time.

@@Spacingout3000They definitely should’ve investigated other robberies, or crimes in the area or see if one of the suspects were suspects in an another robbery.

@@ceasarrr-sb8xp fully agree, he was WAY to casual abt it, kind of creepy lol

What kind soul

LOLLL FRRR

I kinda liked that fact that he got away with it to.

"Professionals have standards."

I can only image cops showing a killer pictures of random unsolved murders and the killer going: No,no,no,maybe,no,no,yes,no,yes,yes,no,yes...

I like to think they get all offended, like "Me? Stuff someone in a barrel and just leave it out in the open? You really think I'd do some amateur shit like that?"

@@MScotty90 "I dispose of my victoms by choping them up and scattering them across different states, NOT by putting them in a barrel for all to see like an IMBECILE"

@@livingdeadgirl5691 “PROFESSIONALS... have standards!”

That always has my mind in overdrive because it cannot decide what to believe. You tend to not because well, it’s a bad guy that usually benefits from NOT telling the truth. However, when they’re already on life sentences or death row etc. why would they not? An example of the later being a serial killer accused of the murder of a twenty something girl iirc that always denied it and even wrote the mother saying that it really wasn’t him and that he has no reason to lie. He wanted for her that the real killer was found so she could get proper closure through possible answers as to where the body was and the circumstances. Don’t know which one it was but I think if you Google it you’ll find that.

I think you got that backwards tho..

Yeah, you said it backwards. He was gonna kill anyone that WASN’T playing jazz.

@@FilthyCasualty oh this is the sweetest little thread in this whole thing.

the one where the schoolgirl was cut and boiled is real too, and probably happened because someone in south korea / china fled, they killed her and other people in thier family, it would have been to punish a male, like her father/grandfather.

@@c97x what the fuck does that have to do with jazz

Fr, honestly if you are just a really nice guy and cover up your tracks decently well you can probably get away with a lot of illegal stuff

Crime Weekly did a series on him not that long ago, and to be honest he's kind of become a beloved antihero. Everyone kind of wants to believe that he made it 😂

Now all I can think is the Axeman walking up behind his victims and just saying. "Ya like jazz?"

YA BETTER JAZZ IT

"Hey there, pal. That's a nice trumpet ya got. How 'bout a Dizzy Gillespie tune?" "Dizzy who?" *WHACK* "More of a Satchmo guy, huh? Oh well..."

"lets see these fuckers play jazz"

i feel like it was someone else claiming to be him telling everyone to play jazz just for the giggles

There's no proof it wasn't him lol 🤔

@@christian3050 true

Zodiac killer hasn't denied it...

are you Frank the bunny?

@@rachbell8915 😊

I would hire another one and then see what happens

Sounds like a Nathan for You episode

That did actually happen with the Sodder Children lmao

@@JodieBarbwireHeart yeah I wonder

I don’t even think that it’s that rare because I could imagine that a lot of detectives are actually scammers

I’m

That case is an absolute mess now.

​@@AvianFluuI still think it was Richard Allen, on his own, but Jesus the judge is screwing this case.

I think that's the name of a black sabbath song too

Nice name

There's an awesome web comic turned book written by Jacq the Stripper that chronicles her adventures in stripping. I love it!

@@villian99918 It is!

Sounds like a bit from robot chicken

I mean, it makes sense. A deer hunter more than likely grew up in the area and has a pretty good idea of the lay of the land, and what's normal and what isn't, so they're more likely to notice something off and check it out, even subconsciously. Whereas, people from a random government agency, unless local law, probably don't know much about the area at all.

Deer hunters and definitely not the murderers who are frustrated the evidence hasn’t been found

or casual hikers

yeah, finding...

They should have deer hunters on reserve, make an honorary civilian helper squad for search parties. Like a neighborhood watch but statistically more likely to find bodies or something idk

same! i live in Shelby as well and when i saw Wendigoon talking about it i was like WOW. it’s still so haunting to go past that billboard every now and then knowing she’s so much older and everything’s so unexplained. :(

u know she got raped and murdered and left for animals to eat. end of story

eventually, there might come a time where she has been discovered, dead or alive, and i’m hoping the latter

Sadly, probably dead.

This is a case that will always haunt me. I keep hoping that a friend of hers will come out and say that she was sneaking out to see them or something now that they are older adults. Just to get a lead

And we can check Tupac off the list

there has been leaked documents in the delphi case which could jeopardize the entire case. praying justice is still served

​@@thecreatorr7just wanted to update the stolen documents will not affect the case, but judge is a shit show.

​@@Jordan-nw4sjThe whole court case is a shit show! Between the defense attorneys and the judge it has become a circus. I hope Libby and Abby get justice.

Omg really! The boy in the box has been found?! I’ve been obsessing over that case, I can’t believe it.

@CalebP3ndletonIRL ???????

@CalebP3ndletonIRL ???????????

@CalebP3ndletonIRL what are you saying?

Being polite during a robbery is a somewhat common strategy, essentially it catches people off guard and makes them a lot more calm and thus less likely to retaliate. If the person with a bomb is yelling and acting crazy you might assume they are going to blow everyone regardless so why not try to take them out? But the polite man making sure everyone is okay clearly doesn't want to hurt you so you don't take the chance.

@@2raw328 what'd he say?

it really infuriates me

Buzzfeed unsolved has a good episode on it that lays out a very strong case for who the killer is.

I’ve always thought it was George hodell. I 100% think it was him. I think he was a serial killer. He could’ve been the Cleveland torso killer even

@@TaraSmallss If I remember correctly, I think George Hodel’s own son even said he believes George did it

@@erinmarieee23 Yep! He said that he thinks his dad definitely did it

Jack the stripper sounds like a gay strip club's top performer

And it had a typo, which is why it was believed to be unsolved

Further context, some talk show dude got a letter which they decoded at the time - it was allegedly from the Zodiac Killer so they got him on the phone and he said stuff like he was scared and didn't want to die in the gas chamber. A few weeks later they got a letter from the ZK which was only decoded in December 2020: I HOPE YOU ARE HAVING LOTS OF FUN IN TRYING TO CATCH ME THAT WASNT ME ON THE TV SHOW WHICH BRINGS UP A POINT ABOUT ME I AM NOT AFRAID OF THE GAS CHAMBER BECAUSE IT WILL SEND ME TO PARADICE ALL THE SOONER BECAUSE I NOW HAVE ENOUGH SLAVES TO WORK FOR ME WHERE EVERYONE ELSE HAS NOTHING WHEN THEY REACH PARADICE SO THEY ARE AFRAID OF DEATH I AM NOT AFRAID BECAUSE I KNOW THAT MY NEW LIFE IS LIFE WILL BE AN EASY ONE IN PARADICE DEATH The cryptographers posted a youtube video about it: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--1oQLPRE21o.html There were two more ciphers after that. Z13 and Z32. Z13 is only 13 characters long so very hard to crack, and is the one thought to contain his name.

@@theoimeson3851 realistically it doesn’t. That’s just the reality of this and since it was made by some asshole the whole cipher thing could totally be bullshit

@@creed8712 You're saying that it's not worth trying because the guy who came up with it is an asshole? What kind of logic is that? Imagine if that kind of work ethic was the norm. Or are you saying that the deciphered message was wrong? Because it wasn't.

@@fruitygarlic3601 I’m saying that if you genuinely believe a man who made his bones in stringing police along and murdering people is an honest enough individual to put their name in something that’s totally solvable...well it should be self evident why that’s wrong.

They are also Turtle Approved

@@just_a_turtle_chad let's go

Id rather watch this then some films

It makes watching these at work much better

Can we get him an emmy

Damn, it's crazy knowing how many killings become unsolved mysteries, hopefully something comes from it

What I find even more devastating is that the police probably would be able to find him if the foster parents would be honest.

@@Blackbeard19891yes!!! And even more tragic that the foster care workers aren’t being forthcoming 😔🤚

@@NoruhBones I don't like usually blaming people for something if I'm not 100% sure but I just have a weird sick feeling in my stomach his Foster parents had something to with it. Just because on the day he went missing he was wearing a Spider-Man outfit and somebody would have had to see something.

The photos??

Ikr! I can't get over the police costumes and the "gentlemen, this is a robbery" 😂

And then was like “hey you guys need anything? No? Ok bye bye :)”

I've been to the museum a few times. They have a policy where they can't remove anything from the galleries so the empty frames are still up. It's kind of haunting.

@@agnes7404 oh wow, that actually makes me quite emotional. Can't imagine working there and having to always see all those empty frames

i just made this comment after yours R.I.P

thank you babe, i was waiting for it

Ugh, babe I'm Wendigooning.

Wake up babe, Cole _ commented

Wake up babe...babe?

Naw, Heimdall picked him up

Seems like your kinda grasping there but maybe some ya

Yea cuz he probably died lol

@@drakondragon7462 parachute was a decoy, he landed on his feet, sustaining 0 injuries but causing a mag 2.0 earthquake

He didn't, he just terrorized people and stole money that isn't his.

@@ayoubzahyo he was so polite I doubt anyone was terrified lol

Thanks man I'm him! I'm just chillin now, living life. Best wishes! - DB CHAD COOPER 😎

@@chandlerlannan4729 that, uh, not exactly true

Yeah, I still find it annoying though. I haven't gotten one even remotely close to my area and 90% don't even include a vehicle description. I just feel it could be managed a bit better

Of course, this doesn't take into account that the vast majority of Amber Alerts are issued for false alarms. Most of the "abductions" are the result of parental custody disputes, and the children are recovered without incident.

@@chandlerlannan4729 That's not even close to true.

@@abonynge it kinda def is

same though

aftercare isn’t the word i’d use but yeah

@@buyalmond5939 it definitely feels like aftercare though lmao

@@taylorcapricia7593 I wouldn't know I'm not a degenerate.

@@nightfall1826 Based

Omg I just looked it up and it's true!!

Amazing what todays forensics can do. May he now finally rest in peace.

Did they find out anything else about the case

@@purplestareyes because we found out who he is? Ain’t no way I’d still be pissed

A Hungarian immigrant.

Even stranger for him not to include it considering there's a link to the Clintons. Seems like a story right up his alley

It also pretty decently know in the USA, especially if you are into true crime. Also surprised it didn't show up but there's a lot of cases and sometimes you forget obvious stuff mean making lists like this

The one i like was not in this video, it was of the guy was decapitated, they said it was a suicide and the dog ate his head. But then his head was found a few miles away and then they said the dog took it there. They actually attempted the dog ate my homework excuse on a murder.

@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 “The dog ate my *ahem* this poor murder victim”

Oh yeah this woman was decapitated and her insides are now her outsides.. probably a heart attack

@@undergrounddojokeyboardcag701 he has a video that mentions that called the boys on the tracks good watch if a bit depressing

Literally charles morgan

"Yeah brah, there's a vending machine in the caveman section with some FIRE beef jerky, I got enough for 2 bags"

They came to steal paintings, not to hurt anyone. I think it’s very sweet they checked up on them!

the buzzfeed unsolved was also an enjoyable watch

Professionals have standards

@@creeperkittytherogue8928 damn straight

True

Yeah, but also she was ten. How many ten year olds have boyfriends they feel they need to run away with?

What? She was a child. Barely double digit aged child. How many ten year olds do you know who have secret older boyfriends 😑 hopefully the answer is zero

asha was 9 and feb 14th was her parents wedding anniversary, i think that goes against both your points

​@@mxvseqhow? Theres no age limit to being groomed

After such a morbid video, this gave me a good chuckle. I'll now refuse to accept any other theory on D.B Cooper's true identity.

YOU ARE TEARING ME APART FBI!

@@Darkko88 GOD... FORGIVE ME

Or... Maybe he's vampire

@@adenkyramud5005 So...Tommy Wisseau?

Literally :(

@@ingavarh should have just castrated him, that don’t work you kill him

@@ingavarh castration would likely kill most of his sexual urge(which he clearly couldn’t keep under control) and just threatening him after cutting his balls off would likely send the message that he better not name names. Ofcourse you would also hide your face wil performing these actions

@@ingavarh yeah very true you would need some kinda young genius to perform to operation, especially without anesthetic

@@ingavarh is there any actual proof of that or is that just a rumor/assumption?

well a 90 minute movie follows one storyline, while a video compiling a variety of stories is more stimulating, and thus you can watch it for longer before getting bored.

Its gotta be the beard/shirt combo

cause this stuff is actually interesting

SAME

Theory: When you watch a movie, you have your phone out and don't pay attention. When you watch these videos, you watch them on your phone. If you can sit through this, your "attention span" isn't the issue; you just don't pay attention to films.

jinkies, thats terrifying

@@thesexiestbaby iconic

Oh no my pops name is John but his last name is not doe but he did go missing before I was born I hope he is ok

there’s not many, but the cases where the killer is caught and convicted before the body is identified set my teeth on edge. i know it’s better than nothing, but god, imagine if the only thing people knew about you was the person who killed you. it’s horrifying.

I think it's crazy how sometimes John and Jane Doe's are literally just bodies. Like there's no specific description to how they look, all we know is their gender. I remember reading a couple the other day and the descriptions of the bodies were so vague it was literally like 'age: 20-40 years old' and 'height: 5'8-6'2'. That's so crazy to me man, especially seeing as though stuff like this still happens in modern day despite all the technology we have.

😬

Legally, he didn’t kill her so I *guess* they were right?

Friends and family of Nicole Brown have quoted her as saying nothing ever happened to stop OJ from abusing her because he would turn on the charm and “OJ his way” out of the situation.

This is like George Orwells, uh, book ”1984”

O J did PLAY a good killer.

If the man is alive he's probably so salty about that. "I commit the greatest aviation heist in history.....and they can't even remember my name right. I even picked an easy one!"

In another 30 years he is going to be known as Billy Dee Cooper or something equally stretched.

@@DadsBud11 New challenge: Make Dan Cooper's name as scuffed as possible

@@clayxros576 Dang Billy Copper?

@@DadsBud11 Billie Dee Williams??

It felt like something out of Twin Peaks. I'm surprised it hasn't been turned into a documentary at this point

Mfw i live in that city. Gonna go rent it or sleep on the remains

Feels like a creepypasta

Plauged moth did the mystery solved on this one

Probably because it sounds like an old timey creepypasta so it's hard to really validate any of this as real and not just a ghost story.

lmao ye that's pretty much what I picked up

Probably not even a cop, probably just a judge's son or something.

@@scottmattern482 evidence?

@@mr16325 “probably”

@@mr16325 source: trust me bro

So true

Look up region locked unsolved mysteries

The Setagaya family murders could be on this list if it isn’t already.

there are so many weird brazillian cases

Language barrier usually isn’t the issue. Governments besides like America don’t like to advertise their mass murdering unless they can get something out of it. I mean the Chinese government wouldn’t even tell the world about a virus until it had already spread and by that point the zombies had already overrun China itself and everyone else was freaking out

Was looking for this comment

the lore lodge made a really good viddo breaking down the whole story if yall are interested he's collaborated with wendigoon a few times before.

rest in peace joseph

rest easy joseph :(

where'd you get this info?

“Tacitly”♥️

yeah i thought that it's sad to think about

I mean to be fair if that was the case why wouldn't they have gotten rid of all of the evidence by putting the bag in the concrete as well. Plus we don't even know if there was concrete being pored around that time

I wonder how many murder victims have been lost under concrete. It's kinda disturbing to think that any concrete could have a dead body underneath

Happens all the time. People die violently every day and it's weird to think about while I eat homemade lasagna in relative, although lower middle class, comfort.

That still doesn’t explain why she ran away from home. Even if things were secretly terrible at home somehow children are excellent at finding excuses and probably would’ve resolved to run away not during a storm? Why’d she leave? Where was she going?

we literally watch the exact same youtubers i see your comments everywhere lmfao

am i witnessing the beginning of a love story?

Lmao

Why are you everywhere? I see you in every video I seem to watch

@@LunaticTrumpet who lmao

He sounds guilty to me, but worth noting he's pleading not guilty i think. Curious how this will end out...

@@okd_v wasn't he the owner of the property they were killed on?

@@toddisgodd9119 no, he wasn't.

Thank god the moment I saw the video of him I was hoping he’d be found he doesn’t exactly look average

poggers

Yes actually there are many cases of serial killers who only kill serial killers but I would have to look it up to see how many

If you count organized crime, I am sure one bandit that killed a lot of people occasionally killed another bandit who killed several people. But what about serial killers for sport?

It's proven to have happened a couple of times, not necessarily deliberately but because the killer who got killed fit the other guy's "type." That said, there have also been murderous vigilantes who have killed suspected or likely serial killers, including one guy in Brazil who targeted drug dealers and these days apparently has a motivational RU-vid channel. I'm not even joking.

@@ConvincingPeople i'm brazilian and i believe you're talking about "pedrinho matador". as far as i know, most of the people he killed was while he was already in jail, including his father who supposedly he ate a piece of his heart. he actually seems like an ok guy nowadays, judging from his youtube channel, but i wouldnt wanna be around him lmao

Unintentional Dexter.

cruz.

unabomer

@@jadedpotato1574 thats the joke.

I know how could he not include that they literally figured out it was him?

Funfact, in Poland our vice prime minister, who is basically in charge of the whole country is named Kaczyński, honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he was the zodiac killer

He actually uses .01 percent of his power.

Wendigoon is Ultimate Shaggy in disguise, confirmed

can't wait to see his final form after the conspiracy theory iceberg is done

@Dorellus It's simply another form of hiding in plain sight, or he is just trying to mock us.

🙏

Walk down the street and ask 20 people if they’ve heard of Jack the Ripper then do the same thing but ask about mccann guarantee there are more people who know who he is

​@@barbariangamin5136she said most famous missing person. Jack the ripper isn't a missing person.

I remember being kids and very scared cause there were a lot of girls in my class who were blonde and the same age so as children we were pretty scared at the time

There is! On his podcast the red thread with Jackson and MoistCritical they did an episode on it! It’s so good

@@undertowlil Oh thanks. I'ma check it out.

She was also absolutely petrified of the dark, so there’s no way she left of her own accord unless she had been severely groomed.

WENDIGOON I LOVE THE FUCK OUT OF YOU BUT YOU GOTTA STOP SAYING “WHENEVER” 30X A VIDEO!😂

​@@leebloom7842groomed by who tho, she had no way to access internet except a family PC

​@billblaski9523 What I've learned is that true evil isn't just going to wander around and ring your doorbell, but the worst devils are right under your noses all along. Poor girl was possibly manipulated by somebody in her school or family, somebody she thought she could trust, and that person would've known they wouldn't have been easily suspected.

I looked up the case since Wendigoon said there was a lead in 2020 and since it's now 2024, I wanted to see if anything came up. The lead they had was a dead end and it just made me so sad, it's such a big mystery and we will likely never know what happened to her

which case is that?

@@3haAD900Tristan Brubach 1:23:28

@@raspberrylemonade thanks!

@@3haAD900 of course!

Sounded a lot like it pennywise.

Agreed 100%

Bailey sarian feels like it too she's so fucking funny

@@unslaadkrosis9435 I was about to comment that haha, she's insanely talented at makeup and bloody hilarious. She creates a vibe like your older cousin getting ready to go out and chatting to you as she does

Same I hate when they put in the scary dramatic music I get anxiety 😭😭

It really is and so many faiths are probably never going to be solved. Some could have just run away from their lives, but some surely have been murdered or experienced some other tragedy

This isnt even close to the actual amounts

My Aunt went missing back Home in Fairbanks Alaska in 1993, she left to go to the store and her Van was found behind a bar her purse was there and she’s never been found. Marjorie Maldonado if anyone knows anything please contact the FBI.

compared to completed cases this is like 0.0001% edit: but all of this still is hearbreaking...even if it's a minority

i was reading through the wikipedia page for unsolved disappearances and murders and suddenly noticed an uptick of missing black americans right around the 60's. unsolved and some never even investigated. sucks.

I’m quite sorry for your loss & as a survivor I’d like you to know that your dad’s dedication to getting justice for victims will never go unnoticed & will never be forgotten 💕

"Have a nice day btw, you are all very special human beings with potential"

LEMMiNO has a great video about this case. It's so interesting how in so many of the reports they talk about how nice he was, it ended up making people suspicious that the flight crew could have organised the hijacking and were all part of it.

Yeah, he sadly may have died when. He jumped out

@@alexgamma55 wouldn’t his body have been found?

I just want to know how he's doing. Is he still alive? Did he have a good life? I just want to know

A deep dive isn’t necessarily a bad thing.. depends on what your interested in

Hold my berg...

I mean podcasts do talk abt the cases more in depth

I mean wendigoon is going over the basic details, while podcasters like, actually look into it in depth

Yeah it's easy when you don't have to do any research and get to gloss over everything

yeah it seems like someone in her family or somebody she knew didn't like that she had a relationship with a poc and decided to kill the baby

@@poofsquid8870 or that she had an affair with a poc and the other man was her boyfriend or sum like that

@@yeledmagniv3799 My theory too. Either way yikes

corelation doesnt equal causation

It may be a Titus Andronicus situation, where a bride-to-be needed to ditch an inconvenient chocolate baby. Or perhaps hide an infidelity while the husband is away, assuming the male accomplice is the girl's father or brother.

you could just vanish and nobody ever finds out what happened to you... not your family or anyone... damn

Yeah I know. That’s a big fear of mine too

May she rest in peace, man...

I hope she’s still out there living comfortably

💔

Omg wow :(

I was hoping he’d cover this case

If I were you I would check if the guy is okay and ask him questions.

When?

@@yotedelote The first time.

my friend did that once, but hes autistic so i didnt think so much about it

Or end up being it

If you never find any. Make your own.

Well, being a deer hunter, you probably make a lot of bodies yourself, don't ya?

@@theg.o.a.t6897 He's got a gun.

@@annistar9693 So do others.

and people still attempt to say it was spooky paranormal or she was murdered.

That’s not the gay dude who makes the really rauchy skit videos is it? He usually puts “Not For Kids” in the titles of his videos

H u h?

are you fr?? THE Brandon Rogers??

... brandon rodgers?

Suicide by clown.

Steven King: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!

Random Fact: Stephen King actually based Pennywise to Ronald McDonald. since King found Ronald quite creepy.

>sewer person lmfao

@@Denise23761 Yes, I've seen a clip of the inside of that tank and it's quite a drop , once in she wouldn't reach the hatch to shut it, was circular and had a round handle which needed turning - no way she shut that behind her.

with manic episodes, (a lot of the time, it differs with people, pls look up the definition if mania) people feel on top of the world. they do not fear the consequences of what they will do and feel as if they can do whatever they want. This can be in fits of anger or happiness with intense emotions and no regret. If you have seen the camera footage of Elisa Lam, you can see how scared and paranoid she looks, which is quite the opposite of a manic episode. Plus, if you go into other details of her case, it seems impossible that she could've wound up where she was found all by herself with no malicious intent from anyone else. How did she get into the high water tank by herself? Let alone how did she get onto the roof of the hotel which was ALWAYS locked and could only be unlocked by a worker there? It is not manic, it looked like paranoia, fear. Honestly, I think a better explanation would be that she possibly was having a schizophrenic (how do u spell that omg) episode. Maybe that was not diagnosed ? Idk, plus a lot of other details don't make too much sense but IMO I definitely do not think she was having a manic/bipolar episode. id also like to mention that normally with manic episodes (as described by people who have it/just how it is described) there are "stages" and the final one seems to be most what she was possibly experiencing. But,,,,, (correct me if I am wrong) I don't think before this she had gone through the other stages? in fact she had seemed delusional and paranoid before this as well, as shown by the things she uploaded on social media whichhh is another sign to me of something that could of possibly been schizophrenia,, but I am not sure. OVERALL POINT WAS NOT TO DO WITH MENTAL ILNESS, BUT HOW I THINK THIS WAS A MURDER CASE AND NOT JUST AN ACCIDENTAL or not accidental? SEWERSLIDE!!!!! THANK YOU edit: please remember this is not me diagnosing her with anything, and that I know there are other symptoms of mania, I was just pointing out some of the most common lol, this is an unsolved case, don't get too upset if someone says something that differs from what you analyzed while watching the videos.

besides my other comment, it seems nearly impossible for her to be able to first, get onto the roof with no one seeing, unlock it(?), get onto the water tank, open it, (possibly take her clothes off now and throw them in), or get in, take off her clothes inside, and then close the water tank. She would have definitely needed "assistance" and I just cant believe that so many things that play into this case would just be the result of a manic episode.

@@leafypawz My sister is bipolar and would get extremely paranoid and delusional. There are many ways someone can experience mania. But anyways, you can arm chair psychologist all you want. The FACTS is she was diagnosed officially with bipolar. And she was officially not taking her stabilising medication. You have a woman with a very serious and dangerous mental illness, dangerous not just because of suicide but also statistics of bipolar people getting themselves into incidents during their manic and/or delusional episode, confirmed not on her medications that she was prescribed to help her with her delusions (which she opened up about on her tumblr btw and was shown displaying a paranoid behaviour days before her death, making a few posts about “people following her”) and yet somehow so many people think the more logical explanation is ghosts or someone somehow murdered her, while evading all hotel cameras, somehow managed to get himself and Elisa onto that rooftop (don’t know how they think it’s impossible for Elisa to have gotten there herself yet more possible that someone else managed to get himself and Elisa up there) and stuffed her in a watertank, leaving no evidence, also leaving no injuries on her body as stated in autopsy ?

@@Denise23761 When I said look into further manic related deaths because the situations some of these poor people are found in is crazy, I meant it. My sister is bipolar and I read a lot about manic related deaths and the shit is insane, really made it clear to me WHY they said how dangerous bipolar can can be if left properly untreated. Top of my head, I remember a story of a woman that died during a manic episode who was found in the middle of a hotels air duct with absolutely no explanation how she could have managed to herself in there. It’s like how the hell did they get themselves into these situations ??! And same here with Elisa. But if you think how impossible it is she got up onto that sort of the hotel and got into the water tank, please explain how it’s somehow more possible someone else managed to get up there, including past al the locks, shove Elisa in there without leaving any kind of evidence or injuries on her body, meanwhile managing to evade all cameras. THATS more possible than a woman with a dangerous mental illness not on her medication who was displaying paranoid behaviour days before her death getting herself into an tragic accident? Or god forbid, the people who say THAT’s impossible, it’s obviously more realistic for it to have been gHoSts

Tbf 2 years ag0