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The Untold Stories of Shadowgate : The Most SECRET ROOM & MORE - Featuring Game Designer Dave Marsh 

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Episode 91
SPECIAL EPISODE!
In almost every version of Shadowgate the landslide in the Waterfall Room is just a red herring, but there IS a way to get through it in the original version! Inside is a strange place labeled "The Tod Zipnick Secret Memorial Room" but that was just the beginning...
In this episode we'll dive deeper into this game than anyone has gone before - Today we're joined by Dave Marsh, the original designer of Shadowgate! With his help we'll not only find answers about the Zipnick Memorial Room, but we'll learn about many rooms that were cut from the final game!
So please enjoy this special look behind the landslide - You'll be glad you did!
Thanks for watching!
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@Gherit1
@Gherit1 Год назад
I had an aunt that really fell in love with this game. She adored it so much she got me back interested in Shadowgate. We lost her to cancer 8 years ago. *raises a bottle* For Tod Zipnick and my aunt, I hope you both are resting peacefully.
@TRex-fu7bt
@TRex-fu7bt Год назад
As a kid, it felt like these games were handed down from on high. I love hearing from the people that made these old games.
@earlthepearl6414
@earlthepearl6414 Год назад
Shadowgate has such a memorable soundtrack. It's instantly recognizable. A sure sign that it's an epic OST.
@beanthegod
@beanthegod Год назад
The soundtrack is amazing.
@venomhemi3914
@venomhemi3914 Год назад
shadowgate and castlevania yep
@TrickyMcnickle
@TrickyMcnickle Год назад
I have very fond memories of playing this game on NES. My mother sitting to the side trying to help me solve the puzzles.
@franksblends2516
@franksblends2516 Год назад
Same but with my dad
@chevychase87
@chevychase87 Год назад
I couldn't play or watch lol I was like 4 or 5 but I also remember my mom playing this.
@ArulinETheKirin
@ArulinETheKirin Год назад
You had to have man, I figured this crap out with my pot smoking Crips on a rental age 9, 6 hours. This game is so safe, he may as well made a 1 - 20 tutorial Tetris.
@Greentunic84
@Greentunic84 Год назад
Thats awesome.
@Kroggnagch
@Kroggnagch Год назад
My brother and our ma used to play Tomb Raider, she loved doing the puzzle stuff with us. Always I will cherish those days.
@MysticMike
@MysticMike Год назад
This was a pleasant surprise. A video not on guiding through a game but about a secret in the game and what does it do... a guide to the secret. That was good. Well done!
@billlyons7024
@billlyons7024 Год назад
Shadowgate's graphics were mind-bending to see on NES back then! Great game, and one that was small enough that you could actually discover the correct path and actions to take without reading a guide. Plus, the music has to be some of the best on the NES, it really creates a vibe.
@civic2980
@civic2980 Год назад
I agree the music is awesome and the move screen sound is icing on that cake. I didnt beat it when it came out but finished it in my teens. Great game and hearing the music makes me want to play again haha.
@joeboo8626
@joeboo8626 Год назад
It's funny how true your comment is. Feel lucky to have seen the transition from vector graphics to photo realistic. I beat Shadowgate every 10 years, long enough to forget all the solutions on the next playthrough.
@palaceofwisdom9448
@palaceofwisdom9448 Год назад
I didn't know that you could select the lit torch as a usable item, so I made all of ten minutes of progress in the game and was then stuck forever. What a pity that my adventure came to a sudden and tragic end. At least I could amuse myself by using the sword to commit suicide.
@bigduke5902
@bigduke5902 Год назад
Fake news. No one who grew up with the NES Shadowgate would EVER describe something as "a vibe"
@frankalfieri1677
@frankalfieri1677 Год назад
Omg I played this in computer class in elementary school!!! Loved Shadowgate!
@DaBoff858
@DaBoff858 Год назад
Most slept on Videogame channel on RU-vid! Great video as always..
@jebussonofgob
@jebussonofgob Год назад
I sleep to it most nights. The voice is just soothing somehow. (I know that's not what you meant) Also, not a dig. I love this channel 🙂
@tpolutts3309
@tpolutts3309 Год назад
@@jebussonofgob it's his cadence. It's just so soothing
@cidfacetious3722
@cidfacetious3722 Год назад
Most slept with. Ha!
@lostwoodsstudios8270
@lostwoodsstudios8270 Год назад
I LOVE Shadowgate. Used to watch my dad play it as a little kid and get scared of the Grim Reaper. Picked it up myself a few years later and loved playing through it. Cheers to such a great game. That was good.
@trueakuma777
@trueakuma777 Год назад
Shadowgate was one of my favorite games on the NES and one that I played for hours on end. I don't think I ever actually beat it, but it was fun to play and one I remember fondly. Learning about the secret room behind the waterfall in the Mac Version and the tribute to Tod Zipnick was a real treat and I would love to see more videos like this. Taking the time to interview people involved in the development of classic games and learn some of the behind-the-scenes trivia would be a welcome addition to the channel, in my opinion. Thank you for this wonderfully infomative video and stay safe out there!
@UCanBeatVideoGames
@UCanBeatVideoGames Год назад
It was awesome to meet Dave and actually get to hear about what it was like making games in the 80's! Glad you enjoyed it!
@vineheart01
@vineheart01 Год назад
Eagerly awaiting for when you tackle Uninvited, i actually dont know anything about that one other than it exists.
@dogmd7
@dogmd7 Год назад
It's a fantastic game, the best of the three Kemco NES games. I'd highly playing it while you wait for him to cover it on the channel!
@alkristopher
@alkristopher Год назад
He'll probably do it for October since it's on the SKURRY side.
@notsyzagts7967
@notsyzagts7967 Год назад
Watch a regular playthrough first then you can get this guy's take on it later. It won't spoil the game. I'm very familiar with these games but I still like watching multiple reviews about them regardless.
@clintwalker2971
@clintwalker2971 Год назад
I FUCKING LOVE SHADOW GATE
@JGarrison51285
@JGarrison51285 Год назад
I cannot start my Saturday without watching UCBVG! ever since I found this channel late last year, I've made it a point to be front and center of my TV every single Saturday. Thank You for your content
@travezripley
@travezripley Год назад
Ohhh you're of the initiated, do you know the "secret handshake".
@CarletonTorpin
@CarletonTorpin Год назад
1:54 - In Photoshop, use Edit > Layer > Distort on the Shadowgate screenshot later, take each corner of the screenshot and drag it to the appropriate corner of the Mac monitor. Then try changing the blend mode from “Normal” to “Overlay” on the screenshot layer, to integrate it seamlessly into the Mac image. This is my unsolicited Photoshop advise for making realistic screenshot+monitor mock-ups. I don’t know what the commands would be if one is using GIMP instead.
@EnjoySackLunch
@EnjoySackLunch Год назад
I hope Dave and the team knows how many hours of adventure and joy that game gave me throughout the years. And frustration of course lol
@gentleuterus
@gentleuterus Год назад
How do you keep cranking out these high quality videos week after week? You are a god.
@maysintv9168
@maysintv9168 Год назад
Oh wow. You lucky, lucky dude! This was a awesome video cos I had NO idea about this at all!!! Also, a very touching tribute to Todd Zipnick. Thanks for bringing this to our attention, and that now Todd can be remembered by more people than ever. I wish I could give more than 1 like tbh, cos stuff like this is always aweomse to come across.
@EastsideShowSCP
@EastsideShowSCP Год назад
Shadow gate is a game I heard very true to my heart and got me into adventure games. The new version is also fantastic
@The16bithero
@The16bithero Год назад
This game makes me feel like I'm gaming in the Clinton years
@drunknpoet
@drunknpoet Год назад
Man, that soundtrack really just hits me in the nostalgia feels. RIP Zip. You made my childhood better by contributing your talents into the world! Thank you, Dave, for the interview. That was cool insight into the world of the game development of my childhood. 10/10
@MrRoboto81
@MrRoboto81 Год назад
I miss these types of games. Would love to see them make a next-gen comeback.
@thecunninlynguist
@thecunninlynguist Год назад
they had a mini resurgence in the DS era w/ the Ace Attorney, Hotel Dusk games and their clones...if you haven't played those, I highly suggest them.
@dogmd7
@dogmd7 Год назад
While it isn’t exactly the same you may like to check out the Grahfmetal point and click games on PC, they even made an unofficial prequel to Uninvited that is very much inspired by the NES Kemco games like Shadowgate.
@travezripley
@travezripley Год назад
They kick-started a remake, it's on Steam and the App Store on the iPad.
@civic2980
@civic2980 Год назад
They made a few more shadowgates. I think one was on the n64 and the other rather recently on pc......but if i remember correctly both were flops.
@mo_musashi_284
@mo_musashi_284 Год назад
You played the remastered yet ?
@bmbougie
@bmbougie Год назад
I loved Shadowgate on my Amiga, have it on PC via Steam now. Great game. Could never finish it without a walkthru.
@mgarofalojr
@mgarofalojr Год назад
Oh man...I used to "speed run" shadowgate on the NES before speed running was really a thing. Probably 1990 or 91. Every song abd sound from that game is permanently in my brain.
@eldebo99
@eldebo99 Год назад
Whoa! This is beyond awesome. You rock, UCBVG. I support future episodes like this!! Here's to Tod Zipnick. 🥂
@robertbeckman2054
@robertbeckman2054 Год назад
My first encounter with Shadowgate was a random rental at a Smiths with two other friends, back when you could rent video games. We stayed up all night trying to figure out all the puzzles. A fantastic game, with a 10 out of 10 for atmosphere.
@xcar0982
@xcar0982 Год назад
I loved this episode, even when is not a full walkthrough, is always interesting to know these details that define the history of video games, I hope you can do more like them along the walkthroughs.
@CeeJayThe13th
@CeeJayThe13th Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OYmqVipkD4U.html that's the full walkthrough he already did lol
@kuliksco
@kuliksco Год назад
Pretty sure he has a separate video with the full walkthrough if you are interested.
@khaimk4r4su
@khaimk4r4su Год назад
The ending segment is magnificent :) :D no spoilers
@P1983sche
@P1983sche Год назад
This channel is so underrated
@Ismcant
@Ismcant Год назад
My favorite part of your videos are the history and back stories of the games, please keep up more of this content!
@pelgervampireduck
@pelgervampireduck Год назад
I love Shadowgate and Deja Vu!. I rented them all the time, and years later I could buy the NES cartridges and I still play them from time to time.
@vollkommen1982
@vollkommen1982 Год назад
One of my favorite parts of your uploads is the history section you go through near the beginning of each one - this video was all of that and more. Loved it!
@vrasten
@vrasten Год назад
You are very good at this. I look forward to these episodes every week. The combination of a thoughtful tribute, plus the end theme to StarTropics, plus two sweet dogs playing at the beach actually made me tear up. StarTropics is one of my all time favorite games, and you did that end theme song so right with this tribute. I just want to thank you from the bottom of my heart.
@abysscallstoabyss55
@abysscallstoabyss55 Год назад
I rented this cartridge so many times I could have bought it three times over. 🤦‍♂️😅🍻
@philosophyoftrucking
@philosophyoftrucking Год назад
My friend, Chris, developed a tabletop role play game based on Shadowgate. It goes on sale in October.
@UCanBeatVideoGames
@UCanBeatVideoGames Год назад
I've been in touch with Chris! He reached out to me, and sent pictures of the game - it looks really cool!
@philosophyoftrucking
@philosophyoftrucking Год назад
I’m happy to hear that. They’ve put in a lot of good work.
@317Chris
@317Chris Год назад
@@UCanBeatVideoGames I still plan on getting you a review copy btw. I think you’ll like it
@arroncronce8221
@arroncronce8221 Год назад
Deja Vu and The Uninvited were also great games as well in this line my personal favorite was always The Uninvited
@Revidescent84
@Revidescent84 Год назад
This was a really nice treat to learn something new about a long time fave. This channel gets better every day somehow, it's truly a RU-vid hidden gem! Props for pulling the strings to get that interview... I got very emotional at the end for someone I didn't even know!
@UCanBeatVideoGames
@UCanBeatVideoGames Год назад
Thank you!!
@Mahaveez
@Mahaveez Год назад
WOOOOW...this is amazing! I'm practically in tears. I had no idea you could bring this kind of content to us--and what an amazing memory trip!
@ladypseudo6096
@ladypseudo6096 Год назад
I still play these to this day. All of them. I even won a copy of the remade Shadowgate a while back, first and only thing I ever won lol.
@lickkittysplit3871
@lickkittysplit3871 Год назад
This was a game my dad and i played all night long. Good memories!!
@jamesc8259
@jamesc8259 Год назад
These specials are so awesome.
@Puppetdragons_3
@Puppetdragons_3 Год назад
I love this background information and interviews with people who were there making it. Great work. Love the channel!
@glenngriffon8032
@glenngriffon8032 Год назад
Thanks to Dave for coming onto this episode. Shame Todd is no longer with us, Deja vu remains one of my favorite NES games. The plot, the gameplay, the graphics and design were, and still are, captivating to me. This story of a detective who can't remember his past solving the mystery surrounding him. Love me a good gumshoe story.
@chasonlapointe
@chasonlapointe Год назад
Great video, Nice idea for a series of short, for a UCBVG video at least.
@travezripley
@travezripley Год назад
Yes, Yes, Thank you! This is one of my number one games on the NES, in a shoebox next to the TV!
@peaceup5519
@peaceup5519 Год назад
I absolutely loved this game as an adolescent teenager! Something really crazy that happened to my friend. He went on vacation to Disney World for a week. When he got back home and popped Shadowgate into his Nintendo he discovered the game had somehow "beaten" itself.
@bootsthecat6718
@bootsthecat6718 Год назад
So awesome to finally know what's behind those rocks!
@Dorelaxen
@Dorelaxen Год назад
Gruz was diving into this exact topic recently, and damn if it's not fascinating. One of my favorite games ever and it STILL holds some secrets. Also, doggo has a mini-me!
@stevianheartbound
@stevianheartbound Год назад
Rip Tod, sounds like a good guy. Retro games are a treasure! It's cool to see secrets like this!
@jimmycarevich9317
@jimmycarevich9317 Год назад
This is so wholesome and a breath of fresh air. This channel has easily become my favorite. No matter what game is featured or if I have played it or watching you beat it is my introduction to said game, I am always surprised and excited when I get the upload notification. Thank you!
@orchNEStra
@orchNEStra Год назад
LOVE Shadowgate. This was an excellent special episode! It's cool to know you can get past the rock slide in the original version. Great interview and great info!
@OriruBastard
@OriruBastard 9 месяцев назад
These inaccessible rooms drove me nuts back in a day. And they still do. There's still two three mysterious areas that really grinds my gears to know what's in them. One is in the arrow room, other is in the banshee room and last one is the area where you get squished by a stone slab if you try to enter it. I JUST NEED TO KNOOOOOOOOW!!!
@spicytrashpanda
@spicytrashpanda Год назад
This was a really fun break from the usual content. I hope you get a chance to talk to more creators because you clearly have a passion for what you do.
@SomeIdiota
@SomeIdiota Год назад
More Shadowgate? OH YEAH!
@BaronNate
@BaronNate Год назад
the music, the atmosphere....When I was 8 I knew this game was special. I couldn't find it to buy as a kid but I rented it dozens of times repeatedly. I beat it so many times but would come back just for the music and the cool interface. To this day, the music and visual awakens something in me. I LOVE this game and this channel just gave me nostalgia like crazy for this and many more, but definitely this one.
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 Год назад
This game is special to me. My original major friends group, we used to play this on both NES and Mac. It was awesome dying and trying through it
@nahumgardner
@nahumgardner Год назад
The torch music from this is my morning alarm. That song causes so much panic.
@facerip2222
@facerip2222 Год назад
What an absolute treat of a video. This is so great. I just watched your Shadowgate and Maniac Mansion videos in the past week, so youtube must've recommended me this today. I am so grateful. I love your channel, I find your voice and the video's lengths strangely comforting and soothing for some reason. Great job again, please keep it up.
@phinull_girl
@phinull_girl Год назад
OMG... my absolute most favorite game of all time. I never expected a video like this!!
@jps6869
@jps6869 Год назад
This channel is Amazing. UCBVG continues to level up.
@nesmandan1037
@nesmandan1037 Год назад
Hot damn!!! I literally led our BECMI D&D group through Castle Shadowgate in February. Nutshell, they TPK’d during the module Queens Harvest (Leroy Jenkins the castle) and I wanted their new characters to advance quickly and with some powerful magic items - Staff of Ages and Horn of Blasting among others. I never had any idea that Shadowgate was rooted in D&D. Makes it all the more special. This is awesome!
@killzorrkillsall1953
@killzorrkillsall1953 Год назад
God I love this man's content. What a treasure....
@usenkey
@usenkey Год назад
I always love your brief history on the game before you show us how we can beat them. Having a full-fledged, well produced history of a game is just as amazing. PLEASE do more of these! If anything these would be great for the weeks where you need more time for the longer games. Great work again!
@trvado3000
@trvado3000 Год назад
This is like the art gallery in uninvited You should play that game sometime too man it’s my favorite Mac venture. It’s amazing you got one of the devs to give these backstory.
@johnnymeteo
@johnnymeteo Год назад
I love the playthroughs, but let's be honest: the first 5 minutes of these where the guy and the golden retriever go over the history of the game are by far the best parts!
@The_Real_ScaryD
@The_Real_ScaryD Год назад
I have always loved Shadowgate. What a great secret to reveal after all of these years.
@betterinsodapop
@betterinsodapop Год назад
Dang , I wasn't expecting to get emotional watching a Shadowgate video! Great interview with Marsh. RIP to Zipnick!
@jonathansherwood5841
@jonathansherwood5841 Год назад
Thank you for this video! And thanks to Dave Marsh for spending some time with us as well!
@TeraunceFoaloke
@TeraunceFoaloke Год назад
This week you didn't beat a video game. Instead you beat my feels up. Rip Todd.
@Frieslick
@Frieslick Год назад
This channel needs more love
@nunyanunya4147
@nunyanunya4147 Год назад
I CAME HERE TO LEARN NOT BE SAD!!!!
@dragonluvrcatluvr9689
@dragonluvrcatluvr9689 7 месяцев назад
This was my favorite game! I wrote to the company and they sent me a poster! Several friends and I passed this game and the poster around many times! One of my best high school memories is playing this game! Thank you for your video it was amazing!
@GreenDragonPainting
@GreenDragonPainting Год назад
Loved this game as a kid. Still one of my favorite games all around.
@hannes8835
@hannes8835 Год назад
That was wonderful. These kind of informations are the most interessting. It is great, that Dave Marsh took the time for the interview. Thank you so much for this video. 😊
@pisscookiex1060
@pisscookiex1060 Год назад
No game on the NES creates ambiance like Shadowgate! (Deja Vu and Uninvited are great also)
@wrathfirex
@wrathfirex Год назад
More of this type of videos please!
@sonoftheredfox
@sonoftheredfox Год назад
I got my NES out of the closet the other day and this was one of the first games I pulled out. It was always one of my favorite titles to play. That song always just brings up so many memories. This was was a cool video. Love your playthroughs, but content like this is always a nice change of pace. The stories that these designers have from back in the day need to be chronicled.
@HerculesCoronaBorealis
@HerculesCoronaBorealis Год назад
Wow! What a fascinating story. Well done as always.
@MichaelSmith-lo9hl
@MichaelSmith-lo9hl Год назад
Saw this pop up in my recommended and automatically said oh cool! Love this channel. Happy Saturday all!
@Trashbull
@Trashbull Год назад
Thank you for this awesome documentary short video. I never knew about this and I love Shadowgate game. I still do.
@SirAbacusFinch
@SirAbacusFinch Год назад
Shadowgate is dope, I was hoping we'd get a video on this one. Thank you!
@insanitysportal6692
@insanitysportal6692 Год назад
You should do "Dark Castle" and "Beyond Dark Castle" from the old Macintosh libraries
@Solsta
@Solsta Год назад
This is a wonderful surprise and a treat!
@ProjectDevilEye
@ProjectDevilEye Год назад
It's really nice to see developers will sit down and take the time to talk about creations people loved and you can tell it means a lot to them to have their projects so fondly remembered. Great episode and a great way to throw a curve ball of freshness into already entertaining content!
@blip1
@blip1 Год назад
Shadowgate was such an excellent game.
@hellboundTX333
@hellboundTX333 Год назад
My favorite game of all time! Best soundtrack ever!
@asurlybarber3620
@asurlybarber3620 Год назад
I was so in to this game as a kid, when my great-grandmother passed, I said "It's a sad thing your adventure has ended here!"
@GGAllinJFS
@GGAllinJFS Год назад
Some of the best retro content being made - thanks UCBVG
@Vexelius
@Vexelius Год назад
Thank you so much for this special episode! Shadowgate is one of my favorite games, and it's always awesome to find out more about it... Specially something that helps solve a mystery that really puzzled me when I was a kid. That landslide near the waterfall always got me wondering what could be behind it...
@LUCKO2022
@LUCKO2022 Год назад
13:04 is the end music from Star Tropics. I got that instantly.
@doctorskelestein6068
@doctorskelestein6068 Год назад
When I got back into game collecting about 10 years ago Shadowgate was my first pick up.
@caseyv5233
@caseyv5233 Год назад
Great video as always! Your videos make me so happy!
@captainnintendo
@captainnintendo Год назад
Wow! I sure wasn't expecting you to revisit this game to cover this interesting hidden easter egg. Let alone get an interview with the developer. I'm glad I was wrong :) This was a real cool and wholesome video and tribute I think. Very nicely done. P.S Omg! your dogs are just so adorable
@ThePerradox
@ThePerradox Год назад
Really a great video and wonderful to see and hear someone who worked on the game share stories.
@harrymasonsm
@harrymasonsm Год назад
Such an incredible video which proves why so many love this channel. All the extra effort going above and beyond to find out all there is about a game and its secrets. RIP Tod Zipnick.
@glorbojibbins2485
@glorbojibbins2485 Год назад
Really outdid yourself on this one my guy. Love this game
@BenDaresAll
@BenDaresAll Год назад
Dave Marsh seems like a stand up guy. He had copies of the old text of what could have been? That was amazing! You doing more of these interviews? Cuz this is very cool!
@Eener1000
@Eener1000 Год назад
This was so awesome! I have a lot of love for the old Shadowgate games, they really sparked imagination. The new remake isn't bad, but it is missing a bit of character. I loved the old campy traditional style of the originals. This was a treat, great job.
@SovrinnK
@SovrinnK Год назад
God this is an amazing get. THANK YOU for securing this interview!!! This video is priceless, with info that literally didn't exist on the internet prior to this. If you ever make a Patreon with extra videos (maybe the uncut interview) I would absolutely pounce on this!
@ricardoflores3216
@ricardoflores3216 Год назад
Again you have out done yourself and made another great show. I have a feeling you might be from Wisconsin.
@hicknopunk
@hicknopunk Год назад
This video is really good! Thank you so much. I loved these games on my Mac Plus.
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