Тёмный

The Untold Story of Seattle Kingdome 1977 - Led Zeppelin Documentary - Episode 1 

JCM - Led Zeppelin Stories
Подписаться 19 тыс.
Просмотров 79 тыс.
50% 1

Led Zeppelin's performance in Seattle on July 17, 1977 is often remembered as one of the most infamous bootlegs available. But is it? The concert took place at the Kingdome where 67,000 fans witness a three and a half hour show packed with an almost perfect set list. This series revisits the video performance to shed light on its hidden beauty...or lack of. #ledzeppelin #documentary #jimmypage #classicrock #johnbonham #robertplant #johnpauljones #stairwaytoheaven #kashmir
You can donate via PayPal at:
www.paypal.com/donate/?hosted...
You can support me on Patreon at:
/ calvomonturiol
Thank you for supporting my channel, please hit the like button and subscribe!
Cheers,
JCM

Видеоклипы

Опубликовано:

 

5 янв 2024

Поделиться:

Ссылка:

Скачать:

Готовим ссылку...

Добавить в:

Мой плейлист
Посмотреть позже
Комментарии : 437   
@pewsterbaby
@pewsterbaby 7 месяцев назад
I'd just watched the 8mm TSRTS from the DVD menu a bunch of times on a loop this morning. It's Birmingham 5/18/77. That, along with an hour from MSG, were the only two 1977 footage videos available in the pre-you tube years. People like us learned of the existence of the Seattle pro-shot in January of 1991 when MTV had their Led Zeppelin weekend and showed 10 second snippets of TSRTS, Achillies, Bonham drum solo, and Stairway solo in the MTV Rockumentary narrated by Stephen Tyler. I flipped out "Holy shit, Look! A '77 pro-shot!" I love the depth you dive to in your films. I'm right there with you in the bathysphere.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Oh yes, the 1991 MTV Rockumentary weekend. I covered this on the making of Remasters 1990. Definitely a great moment in Zeppelin history.Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@Stewart-pl7nb
@Stewart-pl7nb 7 месяцев назад
Unbelievable research and dedication JCM!! saw Zeppelin 3 times in 75 and 77 fortunately
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
You saw Zepp three times! Wow, what an honor to have you watch these! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@esotericgeOrge
@esotericgeOrge 6 месяцев назад
As always, I really appreciate your time and energy put into yet another great video. I love how you pick out so many high and low points measure by measure note by note at times. Growing up, my best buddy and I, him a guitarist me a drummer would do the same thing. Especially when it came to Zeppelin. To this day I continue the same practice of getting inside the music and examining every little morcel of riff, fill, lick, change, feel, kick, run, and inspired passion. The blood sweat and tears as it were that flows through true passionate musicians. I love listening so deeply and feeling sound. I wouldn't have it any other way. l love your work friend. It is inspiring!! I eagerly await the next episode. 🎶
@MikeAndreach
@MikeAndreach 7 месяцев назад
Man, this was pure gold. Thank you, brother. Cant wait for part 2
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for watching Mike! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@OutOnTheTiles
@OutOnTheTiles 7 месяцев назад
Another great episode. Thank you.👍
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
The man himself! Happy new year! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@shawnriffhard
@shawnriffhard 6 месяцев назад
Fantastic as usual! Thank you!
@nunyafunyuns
@nunyafunyuns 7 месяцев назад
Awesome video, I really enjoyed it. Thank you JCM!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@maximetremblay4546
@maximetremblay4546 7 месяцев назад
Best wishes for 2024 and thank you again for your continued superb work. Anything with Zeppelin post 1975 is hit or miss unfortunately. This is largely due to how great they were all the way up to the recording of Presence but unfortunately through the toll of pressure, isolation of life away from home and many personal issues. However despite this there are still moments of greatness post 1975 to behold. Thanks for highlighting the positive Jose.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Happy new year to you too! So cool to read your comment. I think we should highlight the positives in life, specially the band's we love. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@eaaivazian
@eaaivazian 6 месяцев назад
I have always been fascinated by the story of this bootleg pro-shot show. It is the only way to watch a whole show from this tour...and professionally. The fact that you've made this video is just so...awesome. You are making an essential series of documentaries on maybe the greatest band in history...certainly the greatest live band. Keep up the great work! I wait for your videos patiently and am so excited every time you make a new one!! THANK YOU!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoy it! I am honored really. Making these has also been therapy for me, to come terms with sides of the band's history and discover SO much stuff at the same time you know? JCM Studios keeps going ! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@eaaivazian
@eaaivazian 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Cannot wait, my friend!! (I'm presuming Knebworth and maybe Royal Albert Hall may get similar vids one day? Either way, keep up the great work!)
@ministerofdarkness
@ministerofdarkness 7 месяцев назад
Thank the Hammer of the Gods this full show is on RU-vid! I’ve probably watched the Kingdome show 100 times! Cheers Jose & fellow Zep fiends ! PLAY LOUD
@davidaliberti5742
@davidaliberti5742 7 месяцев назад
As usual excellent production and insights. I will have to keep my eye out for part 2
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
My pleasure David, thank YOU for watching. This series has been very special to make, i changed my mind on Seattle 1977. Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@chrissterrmusic
@chrissterrmusic 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for sharing your passion and hard work. Sincerely.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Your words are encouraging! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@MB-zk2nj
@MB-zk2nj 6 месяцев назад
These videos are so well done and informative!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@Paneeks1960
@Paneeks1960 6 месяцев назад
One of the things that I remember most about being in NYC in June of 1977 for three shows was being amongst the Zeppelin fans all around the city. No matter where you went you could hear their music was blasting out of car stereos and boomboxes. Meeting fellow Zeppelin fans in and around the Garden getting pumped up for each show. It was amazing. Thank you for creating this channel. I feel as though the spirit of the band is still alive and well. The details that you put into each video is very much appreciated. Well done~ Rob/Boston
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Such a powerful scene that i can definitely picture in my head. Thank you for sharing this perspective. It motivates me to keep going and create these episodes. I wish i was a teen back then!! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@MdlAgedHeadbanger
@MdlAgedHeadbanger 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for this and I used to work for Fred, the music critic you quoted at the beginning. He told me about this show and said that he stayed in the same hotel as the band. He said when he was checking in he heard a commotion in the entrance and looked over his shoulder to see a group of people carrying in an unconscious Jimmy Page. He said his only thought was "how is this guy going to perform tonight, but said Jimmy played excellently that night.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Oh man no way haha, that's so cool. You used to work with Fred Seegmuller! What an anecdote, reminded me of the scene in the Elvis movie where he collapsed and they throw his head in ice to wake him up, so sad really, what them rockstar had to go through to keep the machine going. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@stingylizard
@stingylizard 6 месяцев назад
​@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories They abused Elvis
@MdlAgedHeadbanger
@MdlAgedHeadbanger 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Happy to share and just had to when I saw Fred's name. I haven't seen him for several years, he had moved away from the industry (long time fixture in the local music scene) and likely retired now. When I worked for him around 1990 he hadn't worked as a critic for several years. The review didn't come as a shock, he was not a fan of jamming or extending songs out. One of my favorite bands is Deep Purple and he said similar things about them to me. He did have high praise for Thin Lizzy and told me about hanging out with Phil Lynot after a show. He also had some great stories about seeing Kiss and Rush together. He gave Kiss such a great review for that tour he was one of the only local critics to interview them on their 77-78 tour!
@MrJimmyn82
@MrJimmyn82 6 месяцев назад
Another awesome episode!! your attention to detail is fantastic so good!!! :)
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much Jim! 1977 was one helluva year!
@zeppearl
@zeppearl 7 месяцев назад
To me they can do no wrong when they had a off night they still were better than their peers. I am part of the "love 1977 tour" camp. You are right a great set list throughout the tour. The "Zeppelin Curse" was in full swing on this tour, there is a title and topic for you next project. The opener TSRTS still gives the goose bumps of excitement as they take the stage oh only if I was there to feel the cosmic energy ....yeahhhh bash !!!!!. The Rover intro into Sick Again is a favorite of mine. Enjoyed this kick off and looking forward to the other episodes. Great job my friend !!!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
The Zeppelin Cruise, sounds like a movie man! Maybe the next 1977 Concert on my list hehe. I agree, the opening notes of TSRTS, what a wall of sound that comes right after. Happy new year Vance! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@kfw1205
@kfw1205 7 месяцев назад
I’m looking forward to this tonight
@tektoniks_architects
@tektoniks_architects 7 месяцев назад
Great work as usual, Jose! I agree with you, that 1977 had the best setlist of any of their tours. Although that tour was choppy at times for obvious reasons, there were just as many moments of greatness. Peace. Ernie
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Hey Ernie, Happy New Year! The 1977 sound is so unapologetic! Back to the roots, of heavy punch! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@paweszczutowski1050
@paweszczutowski1050 7 месяцев назад
Great job, Jose! Like always
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Hey man happy new year!! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@ntrfansiare6029
@ntrfansiare6029 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the research, well done!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank YOU very much for watching!
@dimebagdave77
@dimebagdave77 6 месяцев назад
So cool to have this much insight into everything that made this band tick 🤘 Manythnx!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank You Dimebag Dave very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@wdbmusicchannel3849
@wdbmusicchannel3849 7 месяцев назад
Another fantastic episode. Really enjoyed it..🎵🎸🎵
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@wdbmusicchannel3849
@wdbmusicchannel3849 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Im looking forward to the Led Zeppelin 3 series.. 😉
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 7 месяцев назад
“You do the math, I’ll write the adventure”, love your narrative, so passionate and well written from the heart just like the onscreen text that allows us to still see and hear the music. I’ve learned a lot here, I never knew that the Kingdome had been demolished! I was so absorbed by this film that only the “Stay tuned for part 2” text could snap me away from Seattle 77. Can’t wait for part 2 and more song by song analysis, I ended up watching this episode 3 times in a row. I agree with you on the lifeless soundboard, I’ll always take a decent audience recording over a soundboard. I have made my own Springsteen concert film by combining the multitrack audio with RU-vid footage I’d pieced together. So now I’ve had the idea of marrying up the Seattle footage with the audience recording.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Paul!! Hey man Happy New Year! Hope you enjoy part 2, there's a lot i dug to make this one and i learned a lot. Glad it shed light on the Kingdome, it was a legendary venue for sure. Oh yeah, mixing both soundboard and audience it's the best way. Soundboards are evil sometimes, people think it's the actual show, but no, just a reference. That is why i refuse to play concerts with an in-ear....takes the fun away. Marrying the Seattle footage to the audience recording is a great idea, not sure why LedZepFilm has not made this yet, but hey ,there's always time to change the road you're on hehe! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@paulduggan5323
@paulduggan5323 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Happy new year Jose. Yes really looking forward to ep 2, sounds like it’s going to be another gem with your usual high quality and passionate analysis. Hopefully I’ll be at the premiere.
@frannckenfrey
@frannckenfrey 6 месяцев назад
A real labour of love..........I really enjoyed it........ thanks
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank YOU Frank for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@luismorenomusic5670
@luismorenomusic5670 6 месяцев назад
Damn this was a fantastic video and breakdown I could really appreciate right down to the Dragon 🐉 Pants deep analysis. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much Luis! Poor roadies had to wash Page's clothes fast, from what i've read, they just let it Dry on the A/C machines, imagine how that thing weighed afterwards!
@ricklee3654
@ricklee3654 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for another excellent video JCM, really looking forward to part 2. There is a fascinating story about dave Lewis (TBL magazine creator) during a visit to the swan song offices in August 1981 he inquired if it would be possible to view any video footage of zeppelin in concert during a conversation with Chris boger who worked for the company CEE/Europa TV company responsible for the video screen footage on the 77 US tour. So a couple of weeks later dave was invited back to the offices to view some footage when Chris mentioned he has access to around 100 hours of footage, but could be an exaggeration. So Dave was shown to a private viewing room where lined up next next to a tv monitor was old style BASF 2000 format video cassettes containing Seattle 77, both knebworth 79 shows and Earl's court 24th and 25th shows. It's a funny coincidence that these shows are all available on bootlegs and what else is languishing in the swan song vaults. ✌
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Dave definitely knows what's left in the vaults, i am sure Jason has lots of stuff and Robert himself, i dare to think more than Jimmy hehe. Thank YOU Rick so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@daveconlin8342
@daveconlin8342 6 месяцев назад
As a Western Washington native and lifelong Seattle Sports fan I love hearing my man JCM talk about the history of the Kingdome.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Cheers to the mighty Kingdome Dave, i just saw the 1987 NBA All Star Game last night, what an evening man. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@paul.theeightiesluvr.1945
@paul.theeightiesluvr.1945 6 месяцев назад
​@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I was born and raised in Seattle Washington January 17th 1970 until now I can't wait till Led Zeppelin Kingdom Rock episode 2 comes out thank you for the story of the Bands July 77 Show in Seattle you rock jcm I love you and I love everything you're about rock on Seahawks and Led Zeppelin and all the bands from Seattle like the bands Heart, Jimi Hendrix r.i.p.and.... Steve Miller from Tacoma and hats off to all the the Metal bands Rail, Sanctuary Queensryche Metal Church and yes even a few of the grunge bands I listen to like Alice in Chains Pearl Jam Soundgarden I want Seattle to be remembered for all of the amazing types of music that came from here not just the grunge epidemic LOL but those that were good Thanks for the Memories love this channel subbed and liked of course loved
@daveconlin8342
@daveconlin8342 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-StoriesSonic Tom Chambers was MVP of that game !
@daveconlin8342
@daveconlin8342 3 месяца назад
​@@paul.theeightiesluvr.1945I think a lot of us hard rock metal fans prefer AIC and Soundgarden when it comes ro that era.Soundgarden were direct decendants of Zeppelin,Sabbath and Purple and AIC was flat out metal.They were not grunge/alternative
@ellebrook3413
@ellebrook3413 7 месяцев назад
incredible work again😮Another huge thanks for your tireless efforts and research, even JP costume details! Your documentaries are just what I crave; lots and lots of LZ info and background, these episodes are pure gold. Am curious as to whether you'll point out in a later episode my own favorite Seattle moment when JPJ accidentally plays a note in one of the dramatic "silences" in live Stairway only to get a huge roar from Bonzo?! ( I notice *everything* Bonzo related and love this bit❤😂)
@dantwomey4215
@dantwomey4215 6 месяцев назад
Oh my heart that snare run I just watched Bonzo pull off just because he felt it. 😂All in perfect time. These gems went on a thousand times during a single Led Zeppelin concert! It is simply mind warping😂✌️
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Oh yes, the Stairway moment...is there. Glad you mentioned it, haha you are a true fan!!!! My dedication on these...you gotta thank the coffee!!! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@64north20west
@64north20west 6 месяцев назад
JCM, I cannot thank you enough for these. I have trouble finding time to watch them as they are released, so I know the effort that you put in to getting these episodes out is gigantic. Yes, I remember how big a deal the 1977 tour was, and if you did not act with lightning speed, you could not get tickets despite so many shows in so many large venues. No one was selling concert tickets like that on such a large scale. Saludos!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank YOU so much! Glad you are catching up, i am producing weekly stuff as much as i can. Working like a mad man haha. The way these tickets got sold out is incredible...the demand for the band was HUGE. They were really crossing paths with Elvis and a similar tragic fate.
@CosmicVagabondPixie
@CosmicVagabondPixie 7 месяцев назад
Whoa took my **Breath** away that was **Fantastical** **Mesmerizing** **Luvit** **Thank You JCM**
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@nbenning25
@nbenning25 7 месяцев назад
Jose, another superb analysis! Thanks for all your efforts! Cheers and Happy New Year!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Happy New Year to you as well, always a treat to have you on board! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@hundenstihl
@hundenstihl 6 месяцев назад
Awesome production here my friend. Just a well done and interesting presentation about a venue I’m not familiar with and band I love. 1977 was rife with inaccuracies in live performances for LZ. But there were still some great moments. I love the jams they’d stretch in to on No Quarter. The piano and drum interludes are pretty incredible.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
I am happy this episode let you find out information on the venue, it was HUGE! Yes the piano and drums jams rock, 1977 is one of my favs! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@CARRINGT0N
@CARRINGT0N 6 месяцев назад
This is the first time I come across a Led-Zeppelinologist worthy of the name. Your insights tap into all the admiration we hold for this rock band, the only one on par with the Beatles, the two Fab Four that people will still talk and listen to in 300 years.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Honored by your comment, it's all about the admiration for Led Zeppelin's legacy. I agree they are on par with The Beatles, never replacing bandmates (besides Pete Best) and sticking to their chemistry for magic. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@karlshuler1011
@karlshuler1011 6 месяцев назад
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories To me, the top bands are Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, and The Who. All 3 gave probably the best concert experience throughout their careers.
@MalEvansUSA
@MalEvansUSA 6 месяцев назад
Beatles who stones prince pink floyd are top tier. Led zep is just below. Always has been. Always will. Don’t forget it cause it will always be bro
@MalEvansUSA
@MalEvansUSA 6 месяцев назад
@@karlshuler1011 you don’t make any sense. Top tier is Beatles prince stones who floyd. Led zep is 2nd tier. Not even close. Not even close.
@davidfreiboth1360
@davidfreiboth1360 7 месяцев назад
I was there. This concert and Page and Plant at The Gorge (an outside amphitheater in George, Washington) were some of the most memorable experiences of my life. Well done.
@Diesel0807
@Diesel0807 6 месяцев назад
Page plant at the gorge was probably the worst sounding show I've ever seen at the gorge, good show just marred if you were up on the lawn by a tiny PA system for a venue that size and a crosswind that washed everything out hard
@rdgurule
@rdgurule 6 месяцев назад
I was at the 2nd Gorge show of P/P. My buddy went to all 3 nights. Plant was having vocal issues with his age. I’m very glad I saw them. I was 12 in 77. Grew up in Yakima Wa.
@psychicx30
@psychicx30 6 месяцев назад
I remember being 14 when i heard them, i played their album on my record player it was 1972 they came to Australia the one and only time, i really wanted to go but had no way of getting there from perth! Since then other bands have taken me away and distracted me but I’ve always gone back to them! My favourite song being Kashmir.. in fact they inspired me to go to Morocco when I was 21 many years later Also i remember bat out of hell! That was huge back then what a voice! But no-one can beat Roberts voice for me, its so emotive and so full of heart! Have been listening to them a lot since my mum past as she bought the portable record player for me even though we had no money! I connect so much to the immigrant song as my grandmother’s finance was from Norway and he left his home to my grandmother when he was shot down by German paratroopers in WW2 Though she gave it to his mother Such memories Thx you for this im 65 and still listening Plus robert is doing some of his songs recently on stage hes still a master vocalists at his age as far as im concerned Im 65 and still in love 🥰 😅
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Robert's recent project with Saving Grace is fantastic. He is the man, the voice, the charismatic performer, i wish him the best to him and you as well, cheers for rock and roll! Thank you very much for watching!
@jeremycunningham7897
@jeremycunningham7897 6 месяцев назад
Wonderful stuff. Thanks
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Hey Jeremy!!!! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@greggakkerman
@greggakkerman 7 месяцев назад
Well done. Thanks man.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@davidbeloved1
@davidbeloved1 7 месяцев назад
Nice job putting this together! I went to this show, and remember a rumor that people were somewhat afraid that the band would bring the roof down! I didn't care and went anyway! The sound and video screens weren't great, but the experience almost rivaled the 75 show in the coliseum! I still can't believe tickets for big name acts were so cheap then! We got there in the morning and spent the day in the parking lot waiting for the show. The crowd was entertainment too!
@sicotshit7068
@sicotshit7068 6 месяцев назад
Especially for these four, ticket prices should have been more, no breaks or opening closing acts & playing 3 to 4 hours. Today crap concert tickets are outrageously priced. The one good thing for LZ, their manger got it to where the band got 90% of the profits. It use to be the bands got 10%, & the venue got 90%, LZ made some great beneficial moves. Page having creative control over producing etc. albums, was a genius move too.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 6 месяцев назад
@sicotshit7068 concerts are now expensive, but albums and other music recordings are now basically free
@sicotshit7068
@sicotshit7068 6 месяцев назад
@@christheghostwriter albums weren’t free, but they didn’t break the bank either.
@christheghostwriter
@christheghostwriter 6 месяцев назад
@@sicotshit7068 are you kidding? $10-20 a pop, I easily spent $75-100 per month on CDs, sometimes more, when I was in my 20s, and that's not including all the DJ vinyl where a single song was $10 or more
@EDBZ28
@EDBZ28 6 месяцев назад
so awesome! What a great job you did on this video. You take attention to detail to a whole new level. Zep has been my number one for 35 years and I just love learning more about them bc I wasn't born when they were together and touring. In fact, Bonzo died on the very same day I turned 1 year's old.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Glad you appreciate the details, i take my time yes and make lots of coffee! Happy Birthday on September 25th, soon! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@EDBZ28
@EDBZ28 6 месяцев назад
Thank you
@jerr3d
@jerr3d 7 месяцев назад
Saw them on this tour in St. Louis at the Arena. Unfortunately I don't remember it too well, so it's nice to see these videos as a reminder. I do remember getting the tickets though about 6 months earlier. That was quite an adventure, lol! My favorite song from the live Seattle show is Achilles Last Stand.
@morriszr
@morriszr 6 месяцев назад
I was at that show too. You had to get in line months in advance to get a ticket to then get a ticket. There was a lot of pushing an shoving in the line. Also remember the disco ball being lit up red and the entire arena with a red smoking look at the start of Kashmir.
@jeremycagle19
@jeremycagle19 7 месяцев назад
I love this show. It's the very definition of Tight But Loose. I'm just glad we have it. Awesome work as usual JCM. Zeppelin took chances. Sometimes it worked and sometimes it didn't but that's what makes them exciting to listen to live. The film has it's obvious limitations and the band is battling themselves and the cavernous sound of the then Kingdome but I think they for the most part pulled it off.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
They certainly pulled it off Jeremy, the power of their explosive set cannot be underestimated!
@WillieBojangles501
@WillieBojangles501 2 месяца назад
Another excellent analysis of a LZ show. Really love watching these.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Месяц назад
Thank you very much for watching! Seattle was quite the adventure right?
@jeffoleary6278
@jeffoleary6278 6 месяцев назад
My two brothers and I went to this show along with some other friends. I was 14 at the time. When we heard that Led Zeppelin was playing in the Kingdome there was no doubt in our minds, we would find a way to be there. It wasn't easy at that time to purchase tickets. You had to physically be at the ticket counter when they went on sale. The closest place for us to buy tickets was the Bon Marche at the Tacoma Mall. We camped/partied there overnight. It got crazy when the sun came up and the crowd grew. The cops showed up in force and sprayed mace over the crowd after someone was pushed through the glass door entrance from the line pushing. I got my ticket and getting into the show was another story, I will leave that and my thoughts on the show on your next video. But, I will say this. Kashmir was my favorite song of the show. Thank you for putting this out. It really needed to be done and you did an excellent job on it. I am looking forward to your next one.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Hey Jeff, that's a great story can't wait to read part two. Glad you mentioned Kashmir, it's a very good version that deserves a higher praise.Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@paul.theeightiesluvr.1945
@paul.theeightiesluvr.1945 6 месяцев назад
I remember the Bon Marche especially the one in the Tukwila Southcenter Mall most of my tickets came from Ticketmasters cool story man🎉❤😂
@GavinEhringer
@GavinEhringer 2 месяца назад
I was there in line for tickets, too. It was a big crush and I remember the sound of the glass breaking. Somehow, we got tickets. I ended up hitching to the Kingdome and there was a long wait in the parking lot. When the doors opened, it was a huge crush to get inside...the crowd literally picked us up and it was really hard to breathe. I know now that people die in that type of crowd crush. It's said the band was louder than a Boeing jet at takeoff, as measured by dB levels. It hurt! And Page seemed really out of it...sloppy. I figured he was strung out. The band seemed past its prime. Anyway, that concert had its moments, but there was a lot of mindless noodling and jamming, and Bonham's drum solo (was it Moby Dick?) was ridiculously long. Some idiot tossed a whiskey pint from the upper deck; it smashed near my friend and cut his hand. We ended up hitching home well past midnight in the rain! I cannot say it was a good concert, but at least I can say I saw Led Zeppelin live. Wish I still had that ticket stub...
@jeffoleary6278
@jeffoleary6278 2 месяца назад
@@GavinEhringer I would have to agree with your statement about Page. I had a friend that sat behind the stage and said that Page had to be helped up the steps. Definitely not his best performance and the sound in the Kingcave didn't help.
@viscash3606
@viscash3606 7 месяцев назад
Gold as always Jose
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Happy New Year Neil!!!! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@viscash3606
@viscash3606 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories -no. Not Neil. Haha
@justinparkerthewildwolf6394
@justinparkerthewildwolf6394 7 месяцев назад
Nice work J
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you so much for watching Justin, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@n.r2664
@n.r2664 7 месяцев назад
Great first episode, looking forward to the next installment! My experience finding this by chance as a bootleg was tenuous to say the least. I've never liked the idea of unofficial recordings but I couldn't resist watching it in the early 2000's when I stumbled upon it in trading circles. I think i've watched it more than a dozen times and I still find parts of it mind bending and occasionally shocking to see Page as thin as he is, wondering if a strong breeze would send him off like a piece of paper. The band is very on course and you can tell that playing 3 hour sets are the only way to satisfy such an eager crowd. They know that such large venues are now the party central that people go to and they do deliver the goods. Most bands would die a horrible death on stage with an acoustic set, with folks screaming and setting off fire works but Robert knows how to handle a crowd, it's incredible. Btw, other than the obvious reason for wearing white on stage to be seen better, I think its a nod to the Clockwork Orange droogs from the movie of the same name. Bonzo dresses up like this for the '75 tour in his boiler suit and bowler hat, I think the band carry on this image for '77.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@kcdebris913
@kcdebris913 7 месяцев назад
I finish out my Saturday nights with your Zeppelin videos. The research and musician’s stand point that you see it with, really satisfies my interest into the more technical aspects of ALL of it. Being a musician and big Zeppelin fan myself. However, I’m not sure if you’ve been complimented on this, but your narration is fantastic and very well written. I’ve been watching since you did the ITTOD series. And I’ll continue to support.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much for you kind words. I enjoy coming up with these scripts and all, i appreciate you tuning in since ITTOD. There's still a long way to go! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@ericvitelli7113
@ericvitelli7113 6 месяцев назад
Great stuff! Have a great year! I never saw my heros perform tho.
@99percentirish64
@99percentirish64 7 месяцев назад
Thank Jose! Very good, sir.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Happy new year man! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@lifelongfan07
@lifelongfan07 7 месяцев назад
Great work Jose! I was too young to go see them at the Oakland Coliseum but my brother told me, they were too loud. Tea for one happens to be one of my favorite Page solos on record because he stretched out. I know I jumped off base a bit but from the SEA footage I saw, I thought it was good and I would’ve been ecstatic to see them live w/the original members.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Yes, Jimmy definitely stretched out in Tea for One, it makes it timeless. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@carlamurray9150
@carlamurray9150 6 месяцев назад
Thankyou for that concert,been looking for it for yrs.My oldest bro attended that concert,thx for the facts too
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Hope you enjoyed it! So cool your older brother went, it was a great evening, despite the venues' acoustics. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@carlamurray9150
@carlamurray9150 6 месяцев назад
I can't wait for episode 2 .One thing he said was he was trampled under foot,the crowd rush in n knocked him off his feet
@ridetheblinds8425
@ridetheblinds8425 6 месяцев назад
Great video, I love the 77 tour. The thing is with Zeppelin, they may have been a bit rusty at times but as my dad always said “They played for over three hours!” when he saw them, he definitely wasn’t disappointed leaving the venue. One interesting thing I have is a tour itinerary from this tour, well a copy bought from a record store in LA, but it’s very insightful and interesting!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
A tour itinerary, oh that's sweet. Talk about history for sure, glad you enjoy the 1977 Tour, it really has found a place in my heart through the years. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@davewestner
@davewestner 7 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed the audio montage at the beginning. Super cool. Enjoyed the whole thing, but the intro was a standout. Interesting how late you came across this show. It has been on YT since around 2008 or so, although you had to dig for it. Shadowman "The Nobs" as I recall. That guy published all the good stuff....always wondered where he'd got it all from. Kind of imagined he was the guy that robbed Page all those years ago.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
I remember The Nobs guy yeah, he did uploads of so many shows, i remember Southampton 1973 with the tracks renamed for copyright hehe. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@davewestner
@davewestner 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I'll be watching....turning into a Saturday tradition here. Work, lunch, JCM
@counterbalancelife4305
@counterbalancelife4305 6 месяцев назад
It's nice to have complete concerts to listen to when I'm tinkering in my garage or working in the yard. I was only 6 when Bonham passed, but saw Plant & Page twice in Cleveland in the 90's. Love my live Zeppelin! As a guitar player myself, I too can attest to the solo skills going south as I down IPA's.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Oh yeah man, IPA's can do that hehe. So cool you saw Page and Plant in the 90s, not sure if you checked my series on them here? Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@counterbalancelife4305
@counterbalancelife4305 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I believe I did watch those videos of yours. You do a good job digging up gold nuggets. Thank you.
@edward9
@edward9 6 месяцев назад
Amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!
@luvbasses5487
@luvbasses5487 7 месяцев назад
You can feel and see Bonham’s anger and frustration at times. My guess is that he’s not too happy with his dope-sick guitarist, shaking his head in disgust. Robert always seemed to struggle vocally after a break in any given tour. The intimacy of the Center Coliseum was much better I think. Jim looked terrible this night…and it really showed three nights later in Tempe, Az. What a disaster. He just doesn’t look like he’s enjoying himself. Cocaine is no solution to when you’re out of heroin. He was just sinking deeper and deeper and it’s just terrible. This show deserves an audience tape listen I think…to be appreciated fully. Hey, they were rusty from a few weeks off and likely looking very much forward to getting this final leg over and done with. Excellent job once again Jose. Thank you.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
L.B! spot on there, Bonham does add crazy fills here and there as if saying, come on Jimmy!!! I wanna do a video on Tempe, but lack of visuals makes it hard. There is a fascination around that trainwreck! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@johnmills2134
@johnmills2134 7 месяцев назад
Hi JCM, this Alex Lifeson fan has been missing in action for some time. Hope all is more than well with the Zep crowd. I was thinking of you over Christmas. One of my fine sisters gifted me, " One Long Tune - the life and music of Lenny Breau ". It's not just because you have the facial hair to match, you have chops, brother, your playing is comparable. My neighbour's son on the classical guitar was overjoyed I gifted him Geddy Lee's auto biography, let's keep the flame of rock alive!
@greymattervandal
@greymattervandal 6 месяцев назад
This is fun for me to watch because this was my second real concert, McCartney the year before being my first! My older siblings were cool enough to take their innocent little brother (I was 13/14). I've owned a copy of this show for years, and if I know this was nowhere near their best, it filled in giant gaps in my memory - was a bit overwhelmed at time to remember much. Seeing the shots of the lines outside before the show almost is almost a bigger trip for me! That parking lot was wild...
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
I am honored that you lived these times and tune in for this program. Rock and roll is magic and the power of music is a continuum. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@rattkiller01
@rattkiller01 6 месяцев назад
Two dumpsters, one huge one with booze, the other with drugs, saw a girl try to jump the fence but got her dress stuck in the barbed wire, nobody would help her for at least 15 minutes. I saw the train engineer get a beer bottle in the face(I heard he lost an eye)did not sound the best but I was still glad I went.
@billdemian1601
@billdemian1601 6 месяцев назад
First concert I ever saw was the 1977 Led Zeppelin show in Oakland, CA - a Day on the Green outdoor event. I won tickets on the radio from KFRC. Judah Priest opened (their first US tour), followed by Derringer. Good stuff, good times!
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie 6 месяцев назад
I remember when the Stones came in '81 the Seattle PI and others said things like "this has got to be their last tour. Mick is 38 for heaven's sake."
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Hahaha wow, yeah....nobody could predict the kind of career they've had. I really liked their Hackney Diamonds record. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories some good tracks on it - still listening to it after three months!
@grimmertwin2148
@grimmertwin2148 6 месяцев назад
You might like this quote I heard from Mick in the the early 80's. ' Those of you who took the piss the joke's on you' As a hard core Stones fan for 57 of my 60 years I couldn't have put it better myself lol Peace Monkeys
@jsngallery
@jsngallery 6 месяцев назад
yup, we said it at the '89 steel wheelchair tour as well
@user-hf8ie8mf3n
@user-hf8ie8mf3n 6 месяцев назад
Saw that show. Was J Geils an opening act? There were three I think…
@robertstoddard8027
@robertstoddard8027 7 месяцев назад
I was at the Kingdome 1977 show. I was also at the first three shows in the Kingdom in 1976: Wings Over America in June; Eagles with Linda Ronstadt in August; and Aerosmith in September. The Wings performance was excellent. there was a big-enough PA system to support the full venue. The Eagles was also very good…but you could almost hear some rumbling from the roof when Randy Meisner sang “Take It To The Limit.” I was looking at his face and I didn’t know if the strained look was from trying to hit the high notes or from his ability to hear the rumbling! Aerosmith was OK….it was Aerosmith….but I never wanted to go back to the Kingdome for another concert again to be honest. However, on July 17, 1977, my buddy, a local record shop owner, asked me if I wanted to go see Led Zeppelin. I was reluctant…and we had to move quickly because time was running out. I had a 1968 Corvette….but I had some run-ins with the slaw and I didn’t want to drive over the speed limit…so I let my buddy drive. We went to Bremerton and took the ferry across to Seattle. The ferry terminal was near the Kingdome. We got to the show and I was really excited amateur hearing my buddy tell me how awesome Led Zeppelin was in concert. WHAT A LETDOWN!! Probably the worst and most boring concert I ever witnessed. I couldn’t wait to leave. It was even worse than a Grateful Dead show. A exceedingly long drum solo was only part of what made it bad. It was totally uninspired. Robert Plant had what looked like a coffee cup he was drinking from…it might have been booze but I got the impression he was drinking coffee - just to stay awake!! Horrible show. My friend kept saying afterwards that the other shows he had seen were much better. This was when I realized the Zeppelin had lost its air…it was a band on a downward spiral into rock ‘n’ roll history. In 2007, another friend was trying to reach me (I was living in Europe) because he wanted me to meet him in London to see the Led Zeppelin reunion show at O2. I’m glad he never got a hold of me…my prior experience left me with absolutely no desire to see Zeppelin again….even for a free ticket! That was my experience on July 17, 1977. I guess I was never a diehard Zeppelin fan anyway…but this show did nothing to convert me.
@jimjorgensen5582
@jimjorgensen5582 6 месяцев назад
I was at the Led Zeppelin show too, I also want to add to your story was it was General Admission and they only opened 2 of the entrances, it was one of the hottest days of the year and in the beginning of this video it shows that 67,000 people waiting in line. The security only allowed 50 people at at time for search and admission. The crowd was blocked by Police on Horses. The concert was good but getting into the Kingdome was HELL!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
I think the big venue dimensions like the Kingdome hurt all bands because the sound systems back then were not ready for such task, even with the upgrades. So if you take Led Zeppelin at the FORUM, they were great but yet again, the sound crew knew the Forum inside out. I wanted to analyze the musical side of things, and they still had it, the problem was the machine was too big to maintain without losing themselves in dark territories. Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Episode 2 premieres January 13th!
@MalEvansUSA
@MalEvansUSA 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories not true the venue argument doesn’t hold up. Paul McCartney and his wings were electric magnetic and unreal live. They blew zeppelin away bro. Led zep had a bad night because Jimmy was on heroin
@ntrfansiare6029
@ntrfansiare6029 6 месяцев назад
you were never a Zeppelin fan anyway but yet here you are!
@jazzbox35
@jazzbox35 Месяц назад
@@jimjorgensen5582 I remember the crush of people was somewhat scary.
@Twotontessie
@Twotontessie 6 месяцев назад
Grew up in Yakima and loved this episode. Too young. Did see the Monsters of Rock in 1988 in that venue. :)
@Briantichydrums
@Briantichydrums 7 месяцев назад
Great!💥💥💥
@MrLifesavers1
@MrLifesavers1 6 месяцев назад
Agreed that 1977 was the best set list for Zeppelin tunes. Witnessing Zeppelin play Achilles Last Stand was a once in a lifetime moment. I saw them at the Pontiac Silverdome three months earlier and the sheer force of that show was legendary. The only problem I had was the delay in the sound to video above the stage. Sadly it was hit and miss with Jimmy's addictions. I know both Silverdome & Kingdome utilized Worldstage for the video.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Right on man, Achilles 1977 has EPIC written all over, and while they did it in 1979 and 1980, it just feels adequate for A STADIUM like the Kingdome you know? You went to the Silverdome? WOW man, that's incredible. I just saw the Pontiac footage, and i was loss for words, MAGIC. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@manictree5436
@manictree5436 7 месяцев назад
Zeppelin was powerful and LOUD in the Kingdome. Great concert!
@javlohudzlin4829
@javlohudzlin4829 7 месяцев назад
They were amazing. You are right about the sound. Very loud. Perfect for Led Zeppelin.
@michaelorleans5396
@michaelorleans5396 7 месяцев назад
Like I've told you this before..saw them a few days in Oakland after The Kingdome show..Jimmy wasn't a Baby anymore..he didn't look like he just woke up..After ..Melancholy Page Boys got it on! Great stuff as usual JCM!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Jimmy changed right? I think this third leg of shows was a stretch on their mental health really. The more i look into it, the more i think so many theories. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@tefenstrat
@tefenstrat 6 месяцев назад
For several reasons I have a lot to say about this video. I started playing guitar in about 1969, so now I am a very accomplished player. I was there at both the Zeppelin show and the Wings show. So first I do have to say thank you for the time and effort it took you to make this video. However I do take issue with a lot of the things that you said. To be honest I don't even know where to start. Maybe I will start with a little history and personal insight. I saw Zeppelin back in 72 - 73 at the Seattle Center Coliseum. I will say that those were much better shows.. acoustically anyway. The Kingdome had a reputation for bad acoustics for bands to play in, and rightfully so. Those days and times were so different and unless you lived through them there is no way to describe it. So I can tell you when I went to those shows it wasn't in the mindset of a Critic, thank God for that. However it was in the mindset of a stoned teenager who just wanted to have fun and hear the music, and maybe get laid that night. So I could care less that I paid $10 for a ticket or how many times Jimmy wore his white dragon suit.. and I still don't care. My girlfriend and I stayed at a Waterfront Hotel called the Edgewater Inn that was Infamous in those days. It was famous because that's where all the rock stars stayed when they came to Seattle. So I stayed they're on the same nights that Zeppelin and Wings stayed there. Ever heard of the famous night that Zeppelin had a incident with a mud shark that they had caught out of the hotel window? I was there. Anyway I guess I have to cut you some slack because maybe you're just a young critic. I can tell you though that Jimmy used to play those F notes on purpose.. check out how many times he uses an F note out of place in The Stairway to Heaven solo and it sounds great... and that obviously was no mistake... Jimmy was a master, he was playing as a studio musician when he was very young. Thanks so I am looking forward to part 2.
@user-tl7mj2bm4m
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 6 месяцев назад
I always heard it was more Vanilla Fudge than Zep regarding the infamous "mud shark" incident....
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
I appreciate you taking the time to share your memories @tefenstrat but i have one favor, do not refer to this documentarian as a "young music critic". I have deep studies in Avant Garde music to talk about an F note on a F# harmony section. What you refer to on Stairway using the F note doesn't sound strange as it is part of the A minor scale on the track. The reason i say this is that if you don't care for ticket prices nor Jimmy's dragon suit, i recommend you reading the OTHER comments on this channel from 70s concert goers like yourself who value my attention to detail. If you are one of those "rock fans" that don't like the nitty gritty of history fine, just don't give a back handed compliment like "looking forward to part 2" and then i am a young critic. The level of work that goes behind these is so much more than personal opinion but using my background as a musician, composer and historian. You being an accomplished guitar player i can admire but makes me wonder even more, if you are one of those guys who thinks young musicians are less than you. Have a great day Sir!
@ericponce8740
@ericponce8740 7 месяцев назад
One small correction: The Seattle Mariners played their first game in 1977.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Whoops, sorry there! Thanks for the heads up!
@56Century
@56Century 6 месяцев назад
As a huge Zep fan and lover of bootlegs, this is a show I've never gone near. 77 was rough
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Well, sometimes we can change the road we are on! 1977 Deserves more appreciation! Thank you very much for watching!
@MustangRed1967
@MustangRed1967 7 месяцев назад
Ive seen this show on youtube many times. I LIKED IT. Bonham ROCKED it. 'nuff said.
@glandelectro
@glandelectro 6 месяцев назад
Enjoyed seeing my photos at 10:46 and 11:05. Glad you could use them. As far as the "F" in OTHAFA, I get your point, but I think JP intentionally "underbent" that note up from an E on the 17th fret on his B string for dramatic effect, basically intentional dissonance. Or it was the sleeping sickness.
@glandelectro
@glandelectro 6 месяцев назад
But seriously, Page has long expressed his interest in dissonance and semitones through the work of the Polish composer Penderecki, whose work dedicated to the survivors of Hiroshima features unusual bowing techniques, which directly influenced JP's interest in bowing the guitar. Penderecki's Hiroshima composition also brings you around to Page's interest in playing there during the first Japanese tour. But introducing dissonance and complex compositional ideas to a Zeppelin audience is like playing semi-tones to the semi-stoned. And sometimes during the '77 tour there was some rough playing. Happy 80th JP.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Your images oh i didn't know that? Well they did help big time, i say Thank You. Jimmy underbent yes and i love dissonance, now the thing is i am really amazed at how Jones saved that and turned it back into F#. They really HEARD each other more than people think and this is what's so frustrating in your average tribute band ughhh been there.
@findingredcloud
@findingredcloud 6 месяцев назад
I was at that show...still have my ticket stub!!! Met Robert Plant in LA in 81 in a restaurant El Coyotes. I remembered he said he was deaf in his left ear during that show. I asked him about it.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
So cool you met Robert Plant himself, yeah he mentioned his left ear hearing at the show, probably the P.A was way too loud!
@CosmicVagabondPixie
@CosmicVagabondPixie 7 месяцев назад
**Awesome!!!** & i have NOT even watched it yet! heh **Excited** YAY **Thank YOU** in advance tho!
@badtripmoses
@badtripmoses 6 месяцев назад
Ive played Zeppelin songs on drums drunk or whatever at shows in the distant past & yes it is humbling to say the least!! Glad im clean & sober 10yrs now!!❤
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Congrats on your sobriety, that's BADASS. I'm 7 years sober too, i understand 100%. Thank you very much for watching!
@paulhoughton5431
@paulhoughton5431 7 месяцев назад
Fascinating insight Jose. The coverage of this tour in the press in England was vague, other than the Bill Graham incident, which went massive. The band were referred to as Rock n roll bullies. Bonzo coming off the worst. I got to hear the tour probably in 1978 through Badge Holders & Destroyer. I was so surprised as to how over blown the band had become. Other than Achilles & Tea for One, Presence seemed to offer a more short sharpe shock, moving them away from the Floyd & Genesis one side album length numbers. Huge drum solos & piano meanderings was starting to be avoided by many bands in the uk, who we’re listening to what the fans wanted. At this point Zeppelin were for all purpose’s an American band. The Ramones, Blondie, Television & even Van Halen early on brought something to the UK that fitted into what we wanted. I think Zeppelin’s tax exile had them looking at stadium rock for their future, which is what Peter Grant wanted. Once you go large where else is there to go??? Brilliant episode JCM👍🙏
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Happy new year Paul! Always a treat to read your Zeppelin impressions as a UK Fan. Interesting they were referred to as bullies, although with John Bindon on board, how can you not? Overblown yeah, i get it, and having Earl's Court as the reference for English fans, it does feel like too big for their own good i guess? The drum and piano solos, plus Jimmy's theremin, it did make me think as a ticketholder, you are not getting that many songs hehe, and i say this LOVING this tour. I can definitely see why punk and new wave gained so much momentum. But hey, they needed the "old acts" to get indulgent to have a new market that catered to the economy of songwriting. Tax exile was one of the worst things that happened for bands at the time really. Zeppelin never recovered from being away from home. Stadium rock looks like a ritual and sacrifice the more i look into it which i think it's my fascination with the machine. It makes me value In Through the Out Door so much, it was innovative and Robert wanted to gain control towards Sanity away from these mad houses. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@paulhoughton5431
@paulhoughton5431 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Happy New year Jose, this English/American exchange of music is seriously weird. Blues had of course invaded our ears in the early mid 60's through John Mayall, Yardbirds, Stone etc. Mid 70's the stripped down, pogo rock seemed to fit perfect. I first heard Eddie Van Halen in the Chelsea Drug Store ( a bar on the Kings Road) in summer 78 I was on my way to see the Stranglers & Peter Gabriel at Battersea Park, for me it was like hearing Hendrix again for the first time...AC/DC were also having the same effect. When Zeppelin did return in 1979 there was quite a lot of disinterest from certain camps, hence the poor attendance numbers at the second show. Our pallet had changed. Can't wait to hear the next episode, thanks again.
@bubbles9052
@bubbles9052 6 месяцев назад
Yeah it was an epic event. The parking lot before the show was probably one story that stood on its own. I drank too much, my buddy got laid....more beer poured out by the cops than you've ever seen!! Then, about 2am the cops retreated and it was ON! Fireworks and partying on a grand scale. I had passed out in our lean-to(a refrigerator box we found on the way back from the liquor store!) and woke to a couple doing the horizontal bop almost right on top of me! I was hungover the next morning and in the crowd seen by the fence at the SW Entrance.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Your recollection sounds like a documentary itself, fantastic. You are in the crowd photo? Wow. You rock!!! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@MikeGervasi
@MikeGervasi 7 месяцев назад
Playing in a band while hooked on H is like spinning a wheel. Brilliance one night and totally lost on others.
@gregoryg3256
@gregoryg3256 7 месяцев назад
🌠Duuude 1977 ...happy new year...
@dougchapman-ew7jc
@dougchapman-ew7jc 7 месяцев назад
Great work. I have seen what I think is an isolated version of just Over the Hills from this show, as well as some other versions from this time. This was not the night to try it, but I believe Jimmy had been exploring F# Phrygian instead of sticking to F# blues during the solo where Jones mostly outlines the F# minor chord. The song is in the key of D which includes the notes g and d, which are dissonant against the F#minor chord, even though this chord is in the key of D. Well placed and timed it might come off sounding “outside” or avant-garde. The 1975 Earls Court versions are so fast it’s hard to notice. But in the RU-vid video of this or a similar 77 show he clearly hits the open g or d strings-poorly timed and it seems Jones wasn’t filled in or rehearsed with it. Any thoughts from others who have wondered or researched this?
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic comment Doug. Now with F# phrygian the problem there is no F Natural so while i can understand avant garde (and i love it, Peter Brotzmann is my hero), Jimmy stepped outside of the harmonic space. Jones was smart in playing the chromatic stuff to find home for F Natural.
@bigdaddydaddy3203
@bigdaddydaddy3203 6 месяцев назад
Even on a off night they still were the best and will always be the best that ever did it ♥️✌🏼
@desertrain4026
@desertrain4026 6 месяцев назад
I was here in 77! Before the concert my girlfriend and I were cruising on Aurora Blvd. There was a limousine about 10-15 cars ahead and I’d never seen a limousine before I tried to catch up to it but the limousine sped up and was evasive, but I persisted, and eventually the limousine slowed down to the speed limit. back then limousines and cars did not have darkened windows so when I pulled up next to the British looking limousine, there was a guy in the backseat with long blonde, curly hair and wearing sunglasses. I had a pretty good idea about who it was, I’ll let you decide. As for the concert? Jimmy sounded horrible for the first half of the concert but as the concert progressed all of a sudden Led Zeppelin shined, and I’ve never heard of better band in my life.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Robert!!!!!!!! You saw him, SO COOL. Man Jimmy did get better as the show went on for sure. Hope you tune in to Episode 2! Thank you very much for watching!
@TheSoundofForgetting
@TheSoundofForgetting 7 месяцев назад
I still think the one of the best live shows that they did early era was the tour of Australia and New Zealand on February 16th and conclude on February 29th. But the 27th of everything I could find and listen to and just wish they would release a dvd or something of that complete tour which I believe there is a bootleg out there but all of them were just incredible and all in top form..I have many vinyl bootlegs but really wish the Australia TV corp would or someone release it even in black & white and as Page being the reason I play guitar for 4+ decades and know most of their songs to play on guitar, Drums and Bass and some piano and being a huge fan like JCM here.. Just would be incredible and you know is all sitting at their studio or house or Jimmy has it and just sitting on it. Just watch Rock N Roll & immigrant song that you can find on RU-vid alone as the performance is incredible🤘🏻🎸🤘🏻 what a bunch of lucky 30,000 people and the idiots just walking behind the stage not even watching this incredibly gifted amazing artist. But anyways thank you o another incredible video JCM and your hard work for Zeppelin fans like you & I and so many others..you rock dude🤘🏻🎸🤘🏻
@jimrinehart5022
@jimrinehart5022 7 месяцев назад
Maybe in part II will present the fact that the show was almost late due to Robert having the stage moved to the football (soccer) pit area for good luck as he had attended the Sounders game at the Dome the previous night. A friend once visited Jimmy and was informed by Page that he drank a couple of beers for stage jitters but further delays he took a couple of qualudes to relax.
@PlatinumBlack90038
@PlatinumBlack90038 7 месяцев назад
When it comes to live bootleg recordings, I much prefer the *raw* sound taken directly off the audio mixing console - which gets you as close (musically speaking) to Led Zeppelin as possible. Love the band’s new live sound for 1977 - with Bonzo’s bright, crisp and cutting-through-the-mix stainless-steel shell Ludwig drum kit, and Jonesy’s electric Alembic bass guitar plugged into his Gallien-Kreuger amplifiers and speaker cabinets. Led Zeppelin live in 1977 was the ’70s to the max in my opinion: the set list, performance style (many daring adventures and musical surprises), Pagey’s spot-on, dialed-in-perfectly electric guitar tone and visually stunning white poppy/dragon stage costume - in tandem with his showmanship *eurythmics*, and the solid interactions of Bonzo and Jonesy - both dressed in white as well, et cetera, et cetera... I could go on typing for days... Lol! Thanks again, JCM - Happy New Year & Best Wishes for 2024!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Right on the money with Jones and Bonham's sound configuration, it's so heavy!!! People forget how hard is to entertain while playing a Les Paul that low hehe. Glad you enjoyed this one! Thank you very much for watching! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@MrMojoRiiisin
@MrMojoRiiisin 7 месяцев назад
Best Zeppelin channel on RU-vid
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Thank you very much!!!!!! Stay tuned for Part 2, premieres January 13th!
@user-tl7mj2bm4m
@user-tl7mj2bm4m 7 месяцев назад
Don't care how long or drawn out it is......the best thing to do with shows like this, is put it on when you have a long arduous choir to do...like the dishes or cleaning. I put on long stuff because I enjoy it more when I'm busy working, cleaning, or just doing something I"m not fond of. Sounds strange I know. Short, quick, poppy stuff during cleaning just doesn't cut it for me. Don't get me wrong, I still love listening to the band "stretch" out no matter what. If you want it short and quick - go listen to the album.... Then again, I"m a massive bootleg lover of many bands.....not just LZ....although they are my top favorite.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Dedication is key in enjoying the bootlegs i agree! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@lonniehawkins582
@lonniehawkins582 7 месяцев назад
I always wonder about other bands and your opinions and stories away from led zeppelin. Its just your so Lazer focused and know the stories would've worth your efforts . You know my opinion of there's led zeppelin then there's everything else. That will always be true but there is lot of important music the people need to hear about because your such a trusted journalist and story teller. You'll never be a one trick pony . But i just see you touching on the Beatles pink floyd rush triumph and other influential bands also . Not that you are or your work undervalued. Bit that people understand how far above all presenters before you truly are . As always you are my friend and brother. Just a suggestion because Jose your the man I want to hear do ot more than anyone I know you care and your standards are the top of the pops Peace and gods comfort be with you Lonnie D from Tennessee
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Lonnie, happy new year man! I thank you for THIS comment because as i speak, i am thinking of doing an episode on a different band. There's a lot of options on the table for sure. Maybe the copyright battle is different for every band you know, say Beatles, it's very hard to use footage, but it all comes down to the script. I am looking forward to developing all the angles of classic rock. I wanna make stuff on Yes for example despite RU-vid channel Rael NYC already covering them, i think i can make my own version while respecting his. Lots of roads that can be taken! Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@lonniehawkins582
@lonniehawkins582 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories no 9ne in all of time has ever brought out so much as you about THE led zeppelin. I just imagine in heart of hearts what you would bring out about th Beatles. Just the more popular than Jesus episode would be off the charts to . No one and I repeat brings it like you do . Your the Dr.Neil Degrasse Tyson of rock journalism. Misuc to understand for the common man . I'm also happy you decided to do the narration yourself in stead of someone else it brings a side to the story and connects us to you being a genuine man who gives and cares about the story that shows through. I'm glad you always find the time to give me a comment and make your channel feel like your talking to me and truly listen to my opinions never discarding them in self importance . Down to being one of us and a friend . That I share your meatloaf opinions is hilarious to me .wtf was that even about is ridiculous in what people would pick that gives us both a headache . We're never going get that are we .lol just saw Madonna was on tour again .I was like, why ? I know your eyes rolled when you saw her latest performance. Dignity isn't found in spandex ,and she could be in a lovely evening gown .but she can't get past class to wrong. I hate to witness it . But enough negativity, hope your doing well my friend just some thoughts from the volunteer state . Lonnie D from Tennessee
@MustangRed1967
@MustangRed1967 7 месяцев назад
I used to have that Milennium Falcon. Whoa.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Did you? Nice! I think it looks really cool. I had one like a Simon kinda game. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@madwldgrp1
@madwldgrp1 7 месяцев назад
Welcome to Led Zeppelin….Was there, 7/17/77 3hrs 40 min of concert magic.
@Chrisdrumz
@Chrisdrumz 7 месяцев назад
Fantastic! Just gotta point out though that the Millennium Falcon commercial is from 1980😢
@TheFunkybert
@TheFunkybert 7 месяцев назад
Curious to find out where the band stayed during their visit to Seattle.. I’m thinking The Edgewater, but that may have been ‘75. Thought?? Great work as always JCM!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
This is a great question, my guess, is that they stayed in New York at their main hotel as headquarters and travelled there by plane. With so much money by this point, i think they could afford that. Now driving Seattle to Arizona for the roadies definitely sucked. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@TheFunkybert
@TheFunkybert 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories the Edgewater hotel still exists. It’s historic for rock bands who have stayed there. Zappa wrote a song about it “The Mudshark” .. famed for rock stars throwing TV’s into the Puget sound and at the time, 60’s - 70’s, there was an in house tackle shop so you could fish into the water outside your hotel room window!!!
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Oh yes i know the story hehe. Thing is a band with the Stardom of 1977 could not have stayed in that hotel anymore. It was not safe from a security standpoint.
@fran98832
@fran98832 7 месяцев назад
I still can't forgive Jonesu for choosing a Fender Rhodes over a Hammond Organ
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
It was a lighter carry for the roadies, pretty sure!
@bassplayer8815
@bassplayer8815 5 месяцев назад
The Rover intro was my favorite
@sjames304
@sjames304 6 месяцев назад
I saw the April 12th show at the Met Center in Bloomington.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Oh killer, was that the 1975 tour? Thank you very much for watching!
@markspano5989
@markspano5989 7 месяцев назад
I saw them in 1977 in NYC. Best concert I've ever seen. We got tickets 5th row.
@johnned4848
@johnned4848 Месяц назад
Im wondering how the full-length concert video was set up. Who negotiated it, and hired the video crew to shoot it. How many personnel on camera sound, etc. Who directed it. Really enjoying this channel. Subscribing
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Месяц назад
Welcome to the Channel John! Nice to have you on board a big Zeppelin community. New content every week. Great questions you ask. As Robert said on Kashmir...all will be reveeeealed!
@johnned4848
@johnned4848 Месяц назад
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories thanks looking forward to seeing more!
@crungefactory
@crungefactory 7 месяцев назад
There is a matrix out there somewhere, a mix of the soundboard and one of the audience sources. It's definitely the best listen
@user-ho5vz5tg3r
@user-ho5vz5tg3r 6 месяцев назад
I was lucky enough to see this Tour in Houston. They postponed it from February to May and I had tickets for The Super Dome, but his Son died and it was over.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
You went to Houston's May 21st, 1977 show at The Summit? Fantastic. Thank you very much for watching!
@user-ho5vz5tg3r
@user-ho5vz5tg3r 6 месяцев назад
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories Yes I did and I still have my T Shirt! I also saw them at The Coliseum in 1975, the tickets were $6.50.
@user-ho5vz5tg3r
@user-ho5vz5tg3r 6 месяцев назад
I just got home and looked at the 1977 show was $8.85. We spent the night outside Memorial Music in January. Yes, it was cold and rainy and I got 4 tickets. I appreciate your research and posting this stuff, it has been making me flashback. How in the Hell did he play on Qualudes? You think Tequila is bad! They had really strong stuff in 1977, I am surprised that we made it.
@user-ho5vz5tg3r
@user-ho5vz5tg3r 6 месяцев назад
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I am curious how old are you? Your voice is very good for narrating and you speak very well, you definitely did your homework. I am listening to this on 2 Onyx 6 Studio Speakers and it sounds pretty good for being a warm up show! Keep up the good work and thanks again for posting this. Can you imagine playing a bunch of 3 and a half shows in a row? Legend.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Man if playing 1 show can be exhausting i can't think of a Whole Tour. True legends they were. Thanks for your kind words, i'm 37 at the moment haha.
@JokersWild70
@JokersWild70 6 месяцев назад
I was never fortunate enough to see a concert in the Kingdome, (just the Tacoma Dome). I only saw supercross races there and a couple of Mariners games, but it was massive inside. Absolutely massive. Ive said it before, but IMO, Zep were totally going off the rails at this time. All of the magic and good fun that the band had for several years seemed to have been replaced with too much of everything negative: drugs, alcohol, debauchery, violence, bad performances...I consider them done by "Presence." Robert's accident started the snowball rolling faster and faster until Sept. 1980. Just my opinion. Another superb doc though! Great job
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
Fair enough, i definitely can undertsand why you think like this, it was really a tough road after Presence. Never got easier, only crazier, and sinister. Thank you so much for watching, stay tuned for Episode 2, premieres January 13th!
@JokersWild70
@JokersWild70 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories You still have done some of the best docs I've seen. Your voice is perfect for them, and your research is awesome. Thank you for bringing us fans this great content. Maybe if Zep had taken a different route, it might've benefited them in a healthier way. Bonham looks unhealthy, as does bone thin Jimmy Page. John is still playing very, very well here, but those two were obviously on a bad path. I don't hate "Presence" at all. There are some great tracks on there. I mean, "Achilles" by itself is another Zeppelin gem. Throw in "Tea for One," "Nobody's Fault but Mine," and even "Hots on for Nowhere" and it thumps "In Through the Out Door" straight on the head, IMO.
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories
@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories 6 месяцев назад
I enjoy having these conversations and provide a visual context thru the docs. Thank so much for your kind words. The third leg of that 1977 tour is just strange...why keep going i ask. June 1977 was the perfect ending you know? The Elvis Presley parallels i can"t help to think about. It was a Machine by then the whole rock and rolk business. Peter Grant's divorce and substance abuse hurt the band in more ways than people want to admit.
@JokersWild70
@JokersWild70 6 месяцев назад
@@JCM-LedZeppelin-Stories I was born in '70, so Zeppelin was my sisters era, not mine, but I found them when I was about 14 and was hooked. I've read the books, watched a lot of docs and interviews, listened to the music many, many times (and still do). I think the excesses just grabbed them, and obviously Jimmy, Bonzo, Peter Grant, and Richard Cole had serious issues by this point. Yes, Peter's divorce, plus him trying to manage Zep AND Bad Company simultaneously for too long, really took him down. '77 was definitely not LZ at their peak (I personally look to 1970-72 as their peak as a live band, although 1975 seemed like a great year as well). "Physical Graffiti" is absolutely top shelf, although the 4th record is still their best for overall top notch songs and diversity, IMO. They were just seemingly tired, plus KISS was really coming on in '77, as well as a few other bands. They HAD become bloated as a unit. Punk rock really did wake up some of these bands, and I think LZ benefitted from punk in that regard. Had they been at Plant and Jones' level of excess, which I don't think was much, it's possible for them to have taken a breather for a bit and come out kicking ass again. Yes, the 1980 TOE tapes sound like they'd gotten back to basics and cut some of the fat off of their live shows, but Jimmy and Bonzo were still sick, along with Peter. It was a sad, inglorious way for such a mighty band to end. They didn't go up in flames like the Hindenberg, but more slowly fell out of the sky and just deflated on the ground
Далее
🎸РОК-СТРИМ без ФАНЕРЫ🤘
3:12:10
Просмотров 1,4 млн
LED ZEPPELIN: The Gig That Broke America
16:59
Просмотров 142 тыс.
Famous Guitarists On Jimmy Page
7:37
Просмотров 76 тыс.
Молодой Платон - МОЯ ДЕВОЧКА
2:29