The Valeska Twins. I just wanted to show Jerome's suffering because of Jeremiah. ---------- Music from Inception TV show: Gotham follow me on instagram! - @harleysdawnedits
Jeremiah lying about Jerome trying to kill him is similar to all the fake stories Joker makes up about his past especially the ones designed to make his psychiatrists feel sorry for him. Which fits with Jeremiah being Gotham's Joker.
yh that was the point of them they were basically meant to be 2 different sides of the joker but it’s complicated because they’re not the joker they do predate the joker tho so it would b interesting if they were an influence for the joker
@@bighead4564 Jeremiah: Eu esperava que viesse capitão? Harvey: ai meu deus tem dois ele? Jeremiah: Eu posso abaixar as mãos agora senhores por favor? Jim: Me desculpe Senhor Wilde é que você nos pegou de supresa? Jeremiah: é compreensível mas podem me chamar de Jeremiah esse foi o nome que a minha mãe me deu? Jeremiah: o senhor solucionou a morte dela capitão gordon pois eu tenho uma dívida de gratidão pelo senhor e por colocar o Jerome no arkham no lugar dele? Jim: o Jerome ele nuncou falou de você? Jeremiah: Não acho que nunca falaria pelas as cartas que a minha mãe me enviava? Jeremiah: ele nunca mais falou de mim depois que eu fui embora? Harvey: Embora pra onde? Jeremiah: Pro Circo? Jeremiah: meus pais eles sempre me esconderam para me proteger dele? Jeremiah: Sabe somos diferentes o Jerome e eu? Jeremiah: Desde pequeno eu mostrava profência em Ciências,Matemática e Design o Jerome na multilação de gatos de rua? Jeremiah: nos meus 10 anos ele tentou segurar uma faca de bolo na minha garganta e semana depois ele atirou fogo na minha cama era como vivesse se num pesadelo? a minha mãe sabia que uma dia ele teria sucesso então uma noite o meu tio venho até a minha casa enquanto o Jerome dormia e me diz que me levaria embora eu não sabia pra onde? Jeremiah: E deixei a minha mãe na despedida eu diz a ela que amo e eu nunca mais a vi de novo? Jim: Ele te levou para sang quinentim? Jeremiah: Eu tenho uma vida nova e um novo nome e finalmente eu consegui viver sozinho sem medo mas no meu coração eu sabia que uma dia o Jerome viria atrás de mim? Harvey: Olha esse dia é hoje em? Jim: Nóis podemos crer que o Jerome teria motivos para vir aqui atrás de você então temos te manter seguro na sob custódia na Polícia sobre o DPGC de Gotham até o prendermos? Jeremiah: Isso não será necessario senhores pois eu passei a maior parte da minha vida me preparando para essa aventuraridade então estou mais protegido aqui agora no meu lar? Jim: Não mais o Jerome sabe aonde você esta ele conseguiu essa informação com seu chefe um pouco antes de executar-lo Jeremiah: eu soube que o Jerome apareceu lá na barer reiscer é trágico? Jeremiah: Mas o nome do procurador que eu dei ao allen era falso? Jim: Está mentindo? Jeremiah: Perdão como é que é?? Harvey: Tem alguma coisa estranha com esse cara? Jim: as câmeras de segurança lá de baixo estavão ligadas então por quê os monitores daqui não estão ligados? Jeremiah: Eu não sei por quê isso é da sua conta mas se me der licença pois eu sou um homem muito ocupado? Jim: Mas é claro que está? Jeremiah: Por favor senhores não toquem nesses dispositivos por quê é caro e delicado Harvey: eu diria que ele é bastante delicado? Jeremiah Suspirando: com medo e ódio do Jerome preso encarando as câmeras de vigilância acenado para o capitão james gordon e para seu Irmãozinho fingindo que caíu nas armadilhas dentro sendo levado inconsciente pelas armadilhas da ecco (procuradora do Jeremiah) na casa do labirinto.....
Lol, You sound like Harley Quinn right now. That what she's always saying to herself. Especially when Joker treats her like crap and she's trying to justify her reasons for loving him.
Just that what you said sounds eerily similar to what Harley Quinn is always saying about her puddin'. Your words: "He wasn't born bad.. He was abandoned and abused.." Harley says stuff like that all the time when it comes to Joker.
when jeremiah says "you killed our mother" just before jerome says "she did deserve it though" for a split second you can the slightest hint of remorse in his eyes. the character is a lot deeper then what he originally seems. I hope even though he is dead we still see him (in the form of a memory or figment of his brothers imagination. them having dialect with one another now Jeremiah is insane now would be awesome.
In episode 4 of season 5 you actually see Jeremiah speaking to him self I like to believe he’s speaking to Jerome in his mind cause Cameron did say Jerome’s still very much a part of Jeremiah
I love that other people see that Jerome wasn't born bad. And that while he probably didn't know what he was doing, Jeremiah's actions were the beginning of Jerome become what he was. Beautiful by the way.
outcast gamers not necessarily though. They both might have been born fine, only one being a bit more emotional, extraverted and sadistic-ish and the other one - introverted, super smart and cowardly. Their childhood conflicts could have been resolved pretty easily if only they both had caring and loving parents instead of a blind old freak and a heartless clown-fucking nagging whore neither of whom were even there for the kids most of the time. Moral lesson of the story: if you give birth to people be prepared to become a good parent, or get ready to die being tortured amidst the ruins of your city! )
Morhil _er_ well Jeremiah lied to his parents about it he hated Jerome and it just to sad i love Jerome but it's sad seeing him die and turn in to this mad man that we all love
outcast gamers yeah, he did lie, but Jerome was not a nice lil bro right from the start, Jeremiah direly exagerated rather than said smth completely made up and wrong when he said Jerome wanted him dead. One was a coward and a liar the other one an agressive problem child, none was completely innocent, but both could get along well if there was someone around to teach them to. Alas. =( *in Crane's voice* It shocks me to even begin imagining what these twins could have achieved if they stopped the feud and teamed up!
Morhil _er_ but what if Jerome tried to tell his parents but they didn't believe him at all and Jerome wanted revenge from his mum uncle dad and brother cause they believed Jeremiah not Jerome cause i think Jeremiah was acting like he was the good one Jerome words : you all could go insane with one bad day
For me it would be more awesome if his looks stays the same until his death. Instead, galavan would attemp to kill him but galavan failed. That would be a good alternation of his story
I feel like Jerome and Jeremiah are products of their upbringing I honestly believe if Jeremiah and Jerome fully grew up together because of how their mother, and uncle were then I think they would both have turned out the same.
In 1:47 you can really see him hurt. That’s why I love Cameron’s performance, he portrayed a psychopath , the joker, who was abused by his mother and still managed to keep the character not just crazy, but damaged. Someone give this man an Oscar
Best Jerome video I have seen. Brings out the tradjety of the situation of the Joker. Jerome and Jeremiah both had a bad situation. Now one is dead and the other is continuing his legacy.
"You turned everyone I ever loved against me!My own flesh and blood!" Jerome wasn't born bad he was abused "the beatings never stopped, no one ever helped me"
I think if Jeremiah stayed as a kid and wouldnt have told their mother all these lies, Jerome never would have gone insane. But also, now we have someone to thank for one of the best ( I think he is the best) characters in Gotham. Thanks Jeremiah
@@ivetacosta2870Por isso ele foi arrastado pro um circo pela mãe alcoolátra dele forçado a limpar merda de elefantes todos os dias mas ele sabe de uma coisa que a mamãe e o papai nunca souberam o Jeremiah é tão louco quanto o Jerome era. 🍷🗿
Well, he was already death and he came back to life so maybe he will come back (i hope) and in the comics there is a mystery about three joker and i hope he will be one of them.
I thing Cameron Monaghan is for now be the best JOKER Actor (Joaquin Phoenix we will see?). He plays two different J. (JOKER) Characters like Jack Nicholson, Heath Ledger and with a voice like Mark Hamill in the Gotham series. Monaghan is a outstanding Actor and only 25 years old !!!
In the last Jerome episodes I sort of had the theory that Jerome forces himself to laugh, I mean we saw him serious and even a little sad, and now Jeremiah seems like he forces himself not to laugh, but can't, if that is indeed what they did then kudos to the writers, it's a good representation of the different madness in each of the brothers.
I’m deadass crying?? like it’s honestly so sad for Jerome. he was abused to shit, and his reward for that was insanity, and eventually death. he must’ve died with some hurt.
;-; well he was stabbed in the throat. Had his face cut off, then reattached only to have it punched off the second time. Got his mouth cut from ear to ear. And finally shot by Jim 3 times.... yeah I'm going to assume he was indeed hurting before he died.
1:33 omg I almost started crying I love the Valeska twins with all my heart and I dont want either of them to ever change the way they are because they're perfect 😢😭😭
Twizted NightmareZ Wrong. Its a fact Jerome was fucked up as a kid. That's why Jerome said Jeremiah was insane too. Twins. Jeremiah ended up lying about more dramatic things as he feared his brother(ironically made it worse). The way Jerome handled it proves he wasn't perfectly sane in the first place.
Twizted NightmareZ Jerome and Jeremiah were both not completely inocent from the start. Even tho it was mainly the parents fault why Jerome and slightly Jeremiah turned out the way they turned out. And the fact that Jeremiah lied because of his fear of his twin brother just made it worse and helped Jerome even more to get to this point in his life like Michael Box said.
He was a victim but he chose to do evil. Which makes him an evil person. Just because he was abused doesn't give him an excuse to terrorize Gotham and murder innocent ppl
To all of the replies for this comment I still don't think he's an evil person he might be a psychopathic Ginger but still... he just doesn't have the mindset and conscience as most people do. in my opinion if I didn't have a conscience I would probably be in jail right now getting the electrical chair😅 if I was in Gotham I would probably be his best friend🧡🖤
Julie McIntyre they kind of sort of did just not for long lol he was gonna fund his project but I’m guessing that little purple box ruined those chances 😂
Jeremiah is quite the manipulator... He really is the best Joker. I wish Jerome had his own comic, the truth is he is what pushed Jeremiah to becoming Joker so I believe they should clash in a future comic. Sibling rivalry at its finest
I still consider Jerome the Joker, because of his personality. his personality was perfect, and if Jeremiah acts the same it will be a copycat. Im dying to see what happens next, but nothing can top Jerome.
@@stateofmind4684 😂😂 I doubt that he died i went onto Google and typed Gotham season 5 is Jeremiah Valeska really dead and it said not necessarily but there's a big like I mean very very big twist yet to come and he's gonna undergo into another transformation so probably he'll be more crazier especially in episode 7 titled ACE CHEMICALS
Jeremıah Valeşka oh I kinda figured a teenage girl on a tantrum can’t kill the joker 😂but I just know Gotham does weird shit I was praying that all the stuff we saw in the trailer wasn’t a some flash back and Jeremiah’s really dead but yeah this gives me more faith now I just wanna know how he comes back or revels how he faked his death etc
@@stateofmind4684 probably that was clayface but idk remember in season 2 when Jim was in arkham asylum and got stabbed loads of times over I think the redhoods brother and ye Jim survived he faked his death and then went with Harvey and escaped the asylum so why can't that happen to Jeremiah aye?
He was beaten down that's why he like this. Hell I would go insane to if my childhood was like his Heart goes out to who ever actually want though that.❤
this vid is my fav :) I feel so much sympathy for Jerome because his childhood trauma of beatings, his brother leaving, his whole family hating him and him having no one, It's sad :( Poor Jerome =[
@@Maka-vn2iho Jerome ele tem uma história de vida pessoal triste ele mesmo admite que matou a mãe dele conversando com a Bárbara Kean no Arkham e o Jerome não nasceu mau por natureza e sim o Jeremiah ele sim quem sofreu abuso de negligência mental é um infeliz que não consegue viver na sociedade mesmo ter mentido sobre o Jerome tentando matar-lô e inventando histórias do seu passado? 🍷🗿
Omg!!!this is so sad and beautiful at the same time !!a feel bad for jerome!!!a love Jeremiah too :D god!!both are amazing!!! This edit was on the point!!a love everything about this :D you are amazing person!keep it up!!
i really like cameron monaghan, he puts so much emotion into his acting it seems so real. in this show, he did just that. he did hell of a good job of his role. i am proud of him, he is amazing at his work. 💖
What a video!!! Wow!! It's so intense and emotional..I feel so sorry for Jerome his story is so tragic. To be betrayed by his own twin brother....Loved it thank you.
This is the best edit of Jerome I've even seen oml. It shows the real side of Jeremiah, his lies, and even tho it might seem weird, I really love Jerome, the whole idea of him being the most developed character with an amazing and brilliant brain. I might just be crazy tho
So a year ago i saw that you uploaded this video but i didn't want to watch it because i was still watching season 2 and i decided to dont look for spoilers. Now I'm watching it, i thought i was the only one who actually undertsood all the suffering Jerome had because of Jeremiah. Thanks for making this masterpiece, i would give you a prize if i could
I cried 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 everyone was soo very cruel to him and I relate to it. His own brother, mother and entre family is what caused his insanity. And you know what he gets his revenge in the end he may not be alive to see it but he gets it because he's brother goes through the insanity and guess what his brother gets it worse. His mother died for her sins and his brother got everlasting insanity for his. I just wish that Jerome could have had someone to show him love when he was younger maybe then he wouldn't have ended up the way he did.
holy shit the best video of Valeska brothers i've seen. i also see that i'm not the only one who think that Jerome suffered so much only because of Jeremiah. #ily #im crying in corner of my room lmao
1:32 - 1:50 I almost cried with this. Am I the only one who can see and feel the pain in his eyes (1:49)? Jerome loved sometime, and if it wasn't for all the shit he had to go through, he wouldn't have ended like that. The fact of imagining a little Jerome being abused, feeling rejected and wanting someone to really care about him, breaks my heart.
Jerome actually took the best revenge on Jeremiah. He took away one thing Jeremiah felt proud of, one thing that Jeremiah thought made him different, possibly better than Jerome.................his sanity He made him exactly what he tried to portray Jerome as when young
I mean it makes sense his mom would have family members beat him up, his brother made up a story about “what he did to him as a kid” just to get him in trouble for their mom, and now he’s lost it I mean big mood
Jerome's tragic story always makes me cry whenever I think about it. I'm glad you put it in a video. So many people seem to love Jeremiah but they forget that he fucked up Jerome's life. I like Jeremiah as a character too, Cam plays him so brilliantly, but I will never be able to forgive or forget what he did to Jerome. And as someone who knows a thing or two about being neglected and abandoned by shitty parents, I can relate to Jerome a lot more than I'd ever be able to with Jeremiah. I know he's just a fictional character but it gets me so emotional. He deserved so much better. Nothing excuses the stuff he's done, I don't condone any of that shit, but they should have looked more into his side of the story too. I feel that if Jerome hadn't died, Bruce could have been the person to do so. To look for the person behind the 'ginger maniac' like he'd seen a glimpse of in that diner scene. Jeremiah could have been jealous all he wanted but Jerome and Bruce had a connection too.
At least Jerome had some sort of emotion. Jeremiah just kills and he has no expression on his face. But you can't judge Jerome, he's like this because of his parents and slightly because of Jeremiah lying. He expresses that when he has his gun pointed at Jeremiah, and says that Jeremiah turned everyone Jerome loved against him.
This is a great tribute, it shows that Jeremiah was right, Jerome was born with an abusive mother, and nobody helped him when he needed it. Especially at 1:11
Ok, im gonna admit. This was rather gripping and well... made me cry. Cameron Monaghn portrays Jerome and Jeremiah to a point i believe is beyond amazing. Jerome wasn't born evil, Jeremiah feed his mother lies. Cameron plays the best versions of the Joker, he;s brilliant.
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