The Very Unique Finnish MiG-21bis That Added A Lot To The Game 

one of the planes ever

A solid 5/10!

@@Matt85ism 5/7*

How did you develop such a striking wit sir *rolls his eyes so hard he literally separates the balls from the stalk, rendering himself blind*

It truly is the plane in its class

+50% damage to soviet planes on cold maps

I have it turned on, because u can locate tanks better.

sir this is not a sim game

For real, anything to inprove audio locating. This "that isn't real though" bruh the game isnt a sim in RB. Its pretty close but not a full sim.

Just like I feel like all players should be forced to use the gunner sight.

@@jercki72 Ironically, if it were a sim game, hearing the bullets early wouldn’t even be an advantage, because if you’re close enough to hear your enemy’s guns, then you’re also too close to react.

probably lagg

Youre inbetween the sound and their plane if they fly infront of you youl hear them on your side or behind you I get what theyre trying to do but man

@@DEFYN idk it may or may not have anything to do with them getting ddosed they recently posted abt ddos attacks (today)

@@hemendraravi4787 its not from ddos its from their shitty rushed codding just like the last major update when they fucked up the hud and you dint know how fast you were going or how high you were unless you looked at the gauges in the cockpit at this point its almost a guarantee that there will be a day after patch for ever major update that disables features in the update till they can fix it

"Sounds of explosions, hits, cannon shots of ground vehicles and air defence guns have received more dynamics and sharpness as well as punch in the low frequency range. The sound velocity effect now also works for the sound of aircraft engines and cannons." It's intended change. Too bad it made spotting any air target absolutely impossible...

thanks

@@DEFYN no problem Jengar

outdated meme

@@Andy_M.S.c didn't ask

@@danmsmith21 didn't NOT ask either😏

You can't energy trap energy machines what

Why's that?

@@machadoross it gets better r60s cuz Germany suffers

@@machadoross Leads to the 23MLA

Ye the bis sau even in sim is goated

waiting for the day for gaijin to give the 21bis r60m...

I'm with you, I don't wanna buy a russian premium to get a mig.

Not at all. Germany has the only BIS, and it still isn’t that good. This plane has become garbage over the years being at 11.0 without the things everything else at 11.0 has

lets be honest, i think everyone is getting tired of the 39563th mig 21 being added

Except all the BIS’s are mid to bad. Honestly this one and the Russian one are just bad

@@Kristiansand808 all we can is hope that they will add it. There is still one update before the end of the year

Im a sweden main i can say its sad we didnt got a originally sweden machine we could ged j35 even viggen had more modificated versions even earlier grippen have space in this meta

we got J35Xs but its premium

psycho

Same here, I just listen to music, best way to stay sane when getting mad at the game

idk about you but id rather have an R60 than a AIM-9E, but you do you buddy!

What BR?? cuz 9Es are borderline useless at any teir a plane with the 21 bis' performance would be at

@@IHaevATajpo lower br probably

Please no, never.

@@Zuvaroswhy?

I've been spamming low tier the last weeks lol

@@DEFYN Do some more 3.0 F4Us again

they SHOULD have a mig21f because they were operated, and it would fill the place of the borderline useless hunter clone with aim9bs

Interestingly, Finland actually got MiG-21s before even the Soviets Union’s allies. The Soviets’ offered Finland a special deal on their latest fighter jet to improve their relations and increase their influence.

@@Tom-jw7ii really tho, it was also because the soviets realized that Finnish Airforce consisted of a couple of dozen outdated vampires and gnats and didn’t have any means or intention on blocking US spy plane and possible bomber overflights. Then they sent a message to Finland that you will buy these new planes from us, and that’s what happened. It was an offer that couldn’t be refused. 🤌

you can be on the left of someone and youl hear him on the left

14:38 Listen carefully, the sound is unmodified other than the location being far back. I understand if it at least sounded different (dissipated), but it sounds like all they changed was the location of the sound source.

its not that bad there are only a few planes in front of it unlike the major nations but then again i have well over 500 vehicles spaded and not one penny spent on the game in 6+ years playing

Man, wt really makes sure it always locks onto your teammates huh

F14 engines hotter than the sun

i dont think these are even going to be remotely or nearly as good as the A and D. only the dutch one would be remotely useful as it had countermeasures. even that not so much as j35D can dodge any missile in the game comfortably without loosing speed at all. A is the lightest j35 of all. D is the strongest power to weight j35. ik that more than likely was a sarcastic comment. but i cant help myself when it comes to the j35 zzz in fact any other j35 would probably be off far worse, doesnt matter here if it gets radar missiles or smth. the only j35 that is capable of keeping up with j7E and mirage 2000 is the 35A. all future j35 modifications past the A pretty much just keep getting heavier and heavier. making them more and more inferior. the 35d is just barely able to keep up with some jets in regards of raw turning already, simply due to the fact that its CoM is fucked from the better engine and the dumb 4th gearleg at the back. also making it compress more past 900kph kek.

@@thunderousavenger2382 wrong the Finnish J35XS had countermeasure, irst, and R13Ms

@@prantz3052 thats odd. i did some research from the wiki. not war thunder wiki, actual wiki. even countermeasure research etc. and according to the wiki the dutch j35 was the only one which ever had countermeasures. im not going to say ur wrong. i just think its weird.

@@thunderousavenger2382 there are pictures of a J35XS in Finnland that’s on display that had R13s and countermeasures soooo

@@thunderousavenger2382 countermeasures - en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saab_35_Draken#/media/File%3ASaab_35FS_Draken_DK-223_per%C3%A4_Keski-Suomen_ilmailumuseo.JPG

Ur in crack

How so?

nah a mig9 whit afterburner

nah a fast mig-3

If you ask again ima delete the footage and you get nothing :)

@@DEFYN my apologies man. Just excited to see my favorite WT creator review my favorite planes! Excited to see them. Thanks again man.

Nobody cares about finland

@@WeebLord69 thats your opinion and its still wrong.

Test drive from gaijoobles for RU-vidrs

R-24T would like to have a word

rate fighters tend to be more stiff because of retention, deltas are very responsive at the cost of energy loss

@@jblakemore the m only gets r23.

@@jonwinfield9193 still better than R13m1s

In typical Gaijin fashion it has both a broken laser guidance pod and no pl2 missiles. Also no cm even though it had them historically :))

And they should add a new unique nation

I doubt they’ll bother with 5th gen stuff. It would be ridiculously unbalanced (I mean really the su57 would be at such a major disadvantage) and the game play would be incredibly dull

@@kantina4765 As a long time war thunder player. this is exactly what people said about 4th gens 7 years ago. yet here we are.

@@iancarpenter5488 yeah and they’re pretty boring to play. Unless they artificially gimp stealth fighters capabilities I just can’t see it being fun. Take off, lock your silly number of missiles, give your entire team the same information automatically so they can lock a different set of planes, land and then hope your team is the lucky one. I mean hell if they end up facing 4th gens and they don’t have realistic capabilities then a lot of them they will actually lose in dogfights due to spotting in air rb negating their advantage. Then there’s the issue of the f22 being so much more capable as a dog fighter than any of the others.. the su57 being a cargo cults idea of what a stealth fighter should be.. I just personally can’t see it being fun. Radar missiles already make top tier pretty dull. The way I see it.. fox 3s alone require an entirely new game mode.

@@iancarpenter5488 war thunder shines (at least in air) as a gun fighting simulator, with a heavy emphasis on prop aircraft. Going past Korean War stuff is a mistake on the players part, it’s just not as fun.

@@kantina4765 I don't disagree, But gaijin is out to make money and new content is ultimatly what makes money. Gaijin could care less about game play. and for that reason 5th gens will be in game some day.

R-13Ms are IR missiles, maybe that clears it up Hmm wait I see what you are confused about. Defyn was talking about how annoying it is to have to drop flares and chaff together, having to waste chaff on IR missiles when you only want to use flares and waste flares on SARH missiles when you only want to use the chaff.

Nope, the R530E has flare resistance that is perhaps on par with the 9L

@@cutthroat795 then third lmao if they have the same level then this is the next level of flare resistance

It isn’t that flare resistant. Maybe on par with aim9g’s. The magic 2 is on par with or exceeds the L

@@oceanforth21 yeah they’re both good but I’ve seen r13m1 fly through flares but that’s from a nice far shot and obviously not like 20 but at least like 5 pops, aim9g feels like a big r60

Sadly not

@@DEFYN well, I'll wait untill the decal come out

i dont have top tier but 10-11.3 is easy noob fest. the sweatiest players ive found are always in 3.0-5.7. due to the skill level i have, i can hardly compete in most games at that br (tho its where i play anyway). ive barely touched 7.0, i skipped rihht past it, so thanks for the suggestion, ill try it iut now! gonna be some stock grind for a while tho!

Modifying the plane to make it somewhat unique too much work please understand comrade xaxaxaxa

it's not an op premium. why should they bother doing anything to it

reinforced flares shoots 2 flares out instea dof one , if the plane uses 2 flares i think it will shoot 4 with reinforced flares selected

What do you mean you've seen this before it's brand new!

Cuz when u get those you get the 0.3 BR bump to 11.3

The 21bis has noticeably better acceleration and r13ms are worth it. I do think 10.3 is low tho.

smt is less agile cuz of the additional fuel tank in the spine

@@finn_mcmissile you’re insane if you think the smt should be at a higher br it’s only usable load out is 4 r60’s

@@Mayor-McCheese Its the best 10.3 in the game and its loadout is still decent. I don’t understand what your orginal point is?

@@finn_mcmissile that if the smt is at 10.3 with r60’s then the bis should get r60m’s to make it at least usable at 11.0

Yep , mld still has garbage r-60 at 11.3

@@WeebLord69 mld has all aspect r60m’s

@@Mayor-McCheese it does not. İt has regular r-60.

@@WeebLord69 it doesn’t!? That’s crazy I would’ve thought for sure the top tier Russian fighter would have the all aspects doesnt the 23m have the r60m’s

@@Mayor-McCheese yeah its the stupid decisions of gaijin.

It got better missiles