there is 1 little mistake here when Shane said the dropped an A-Bomb in the street that wasn't an Atomic Bomb that was most likely a regular bomb if it was an atomic bomb wouldn't it be more of a Mushroom shape? and a little bigger?
they Most likey dropped an Artillery strike or a carpet bomb an A-Bomb is a lot bigger and doesn't blow up multiple times i know this from my history class when i was in high school
That's because the initial outbreak hits closer to home. We can relate to it a lot easier. It's (theoretically) only one step away from where we are now. The survival that follows however, is just a bit more fantasy. We dont relate to it as much and it's just too far away from (possible) reality to get as affected by it as the actual outbreak.
This scene is both terrifying and fascinating at the same time. Getting to see the beginning of the outbreak and all the chaos that came with it just interests me.
yha and seeing those military helicopters flying buy just makes you thank what ever happens to all of them, did they split up, did they go back to a base, did those pilots ever stopped and thank what they just did and whiniest when they landed, i love thinking about stuff like that.
It interests you because we hardly ever get to see it. Most of these shows and movies always focus on the aftermath. Wish they would focus more on the actual end of the world part.
I wish they'd show us the Military's war against the walkers and how exactly the government fell despite the fact they had tanks, planes, helicopters and artillery.
Probably the undead managed to take down so much territory that they prevented them to access to the resources needed to fuel the mechanical war assets, rendering them useless.
I think virus spread and killed very big majority of the people. In this scene we see people immune to that virus. They turn into walkers only when they got bit.
Of course it was and it will never be the same again, it was their last resort. But as of the matter of fact truth is, the US Military did too much damage than the walkers would do. 🤔
10 years after the outbreak. P. S. Also since season one came out. Back when the survivors thought at first the walkers were starting to evolve “The Whisperers” that scary!😨😱
@@plarsen9433 Also. The times T-Dog, Glenn, Dale and Shane were still here 😢. Well to be fare, Glenn was still with us for a long time so we kept an OG.
@@plarsen9433 it's shocking and sad and scary in the beginning even the jumpscares throughout the seasons I liked the beginning more around season 1 too season 3 was my favorite part
Why don't any shows understand that everyone LOVES this intitial chaos, it creates this uneasy relateable feeling that you cannot get in any other parts of the show. They need to create a whole series on this specific part of the outbreak showing various different scenarios.
I remember when they were all about how that's what Fear (basically) was going to do--a lot of focus on the very beginning of the outbreak. And then, what was it? *Maybe* a few episodes, if that? But then, maybe I'm wrong. Only watched the first season when it originally aired and never watched any of it ever again, so maybe my memory is faulty.
Honestly, rick was lucky he was in a come. He didn’t have to go through all the confusions everybody else did, the day he woke up he almost knew exactly what was going on.
It's sort of interesting to think about. You could see Rick being in a coma during all this as either a blessing or a tragedy depending on the point of view.
Yea no, if anything it would affect a person even worse, psychologically speaking. At least the people who saw the apocalypse unfolding witnessed society’s gradual downfall. It all hit Rick in a matter of seconds if not minutes. No person would be ok after that if they were Rick.
@@jaasonmiller from realizing your family has abandoned your home, you get domed with a metal pipe by duane, seeing morgan execute a walker then having a gun stuffed in his face, all within an hour of walking up from a coma..
Lori was braindead even before she died. 2 minutes after Ed says "We don't even know these damn people." she leaves her son with them. The only time Ed was right.
People say Lori is a “bad character”, but do they mean in the sense that she’s a dumbass, or in the sense that she is an uncompelling, poorly written character? I think the second one would be untrue. Watch her death scene and tell me otherwise
Javier Arellano You should attempt time-travel and go back to the good old days. When people in the past ask you why you came back, tell them it was because you missed “the real essence.” Then watch them point their fingers at you and laugh.
Right? I think Carol had the correct intuition that Lori and Carl were not a threat - but what if somebody else had overheard her saying they had food, or saw her getting the food and giving it to Lori and Carl?
Personally I find this to be one of the scariest parts and situations in the show, The initial outbreak and fall. You are trapped on a highway road with tons of other people and cars that are backed up for miles, You are anxious to get to the refugee centers due to all of the reports of violent attacks taking place and are hopeful that it's safe there and the military can protect you, But despite the reports coming out they don't tell you everything so you just assume it's a new cold going around or a drug making people crazy and that the military will handle it, You aren't used to this or prepared for the new world and just want to go back to the way things were, The presence of the military worries you but you have confidence in them, You sit in your car trying to find any radio station available to get news or any information on what's going on and there's just static, Even the emergency stations have stopped, And then you hear it through the woods and then proceed to walk through the woods, The military is bombing the cities and you hear sounds of groans moans from the undead and the screaming of anybody still trapped in Atlanta And then you start to realize that the military is losing.
@@RobinK I was really excited for the hype that lead up to the release of Fear The Walking Dead, As a lot of people thought we would get an answer to the Virus since a lot of the promoted material said that Los Angeles (Where the series starts) was where it all started, And a lot of people thought that we'd get to see some good pre-outbreak and a good bit of the outbreak/collapse and in some way we did get that but it rushed too much into the apocalypse setting and just became Walking Dead 2.0 in my opinion, It's not a bad show but a lot of people were disappointed that it rushed into things, Personally I wish we would get more miniseries like Flight 462 where it would have each episode following people in the Police, EMT's/Firefighters, National Guard/Army and maybe something about the Government like the Governors of said state or the President, As we don't have a lot of info about that, Apologies for the long giant comment.
The downfall is always the best part of these shows.. fear the walking dead nailed it, I loved fear in the first bit prior to mexico, when they have to kill nicks dealer calvin was when the oh shit factor kicked in
@@KJAY2THOUSAND Agreed! I also think the downfall/collapse is the best part, Since you see characters being forced to start adapting to their new work, Like how early Rick was basically. I really REALLY wish that we could've seen early Washington D.C, We only get a glimpse of the city from afar in Season 5 and then we get the overgrown Washington D.C in season 9, I think it would've made amazing to see it in the early days.
I'm a Motherfucker Yep... But this is right. Or you're going to Tell me that The entire United States would give there hands and Sing some music. Of course they're going to kill each other. It's The instict
no, they were few buildings with some fire damage if you look very closely but that Episode when the APD took over that Hospital you could see that the City was bomb
They had a chance with the CRM in world beyond, they chlorine gassed 87,000 survivors to prevent strain on crm resources, blew up their protection wall and lead a heard of thousands into the city to cover their tracks, which didn’t work..
Ahhh...back when Frank ran the show. I don't know who did him wrong, but I wonder how different the show would have been if he would have been show runner for a few more seasons than just season 1.
@@TheMrmatthewparker it was Franks idea to showcase the military and the fall of the military though, they axed franks idea to showcase a squad of soldiers in Atlanta, which would eventually merge into ricks story, by form of the walker inside the tank.
Yep! It's as if the military know it's all over but they're like, "Fuck it, we know we're completely fucked and can't win but we're gonna take out as many Walkers as we can before we all die"
Telling people to evacuate into the city during zombie apocalypse is the stupidest decision I ever heard. It makes me angry how many innocent life had died because of this.
Well, during the outbreak in TWD universe, many people was protesting in streets againts police. I think in that chaos, the decisions people or goverment made was mostly stupid ad. This is cording to Fear the Walking Dead
In the TWD universe they are not aware of what zombies are. Obviously today it’s become a big thing with video games, movies, and tv shows. Government today would likely tell people to stay in doors and let the local officials handle it but knowing how stubborn society is they wouldn’t listen which would cause a bigger problem.
@@jamesdime6865 look at how corona played out. People would be in the streets being killed by zombies with signs saying "it's my right as an american to cause a zombie apocalypse to become worse"
It's interesting to look back on this. Because of military operations alot more people died because of confusion/random bombings. They didn't know people were infected either way. Therein causing even more walkers.
@AboveN2FarAway @AboveN2FarAway I think it started like a flu which killed an important part of the population whose immune system didn't make it, the others got it as a dormant virus, which will manifestate once dead or bitten . Because in season 2, remember the highway scene , before that hord came , you can notice some dead people inside their cars ,whose bodies did not show any markings of bites or bullets and yet they didn't turn .
Especially since it was napalm and not straight up bombs.. majority of the walkers would’ve been burned and kept on moving.. goes to show you how sometimes the most effective weapons on humans, may not work the slightest against a different biological host
@@KJAY2THOUSAND Uh.. doesn't napalm turn the target into a bunch of ashes? Even if that didn't happen, the head would still be on fire and the walker would die eventually.
The TV show needed more flashbacks like this one. Back when the military were still active. Something that I really don't get is like what happened after operation Cobalt was executed?? All forces retreated to another locations and THEN nothing . In my little theory the military is somewhere in the country, maybe north
I agree. I love these flashbacks. This one and the one where Shane tries to rescue Rick in the hospital are some of my favorites. -- I also hope we get to see whatever is left of the government one day, because if civilians can survive, the military can too.
I think a large part of the military, or certainly a core section were evacuated to an island or large remote military installation, somewhere like the Bahamas, Jamaica or even Cuba. Somewhere with an infrastructure but an island that is easily defensible. Failing that somewhere remote, in the mountains maybe? I wonder about all the US navel ships at sea, where did they go? Did any come back to land for supplies etc? I would love to see something incorporating a story line like that, a bit like 'The Last Ship'!
Exactly... there are a lot of story opportunities to follow along those lines. Of course, make it something different from what has been done before if possible though! At least now we know of The Commonwealth, I doubt they could have got started without a large military presence.
Gilberto Solano if you’re into that part of the show, then I would suggest watching fear the walking dead, it shows how the world all fell to hell and it showed how the apocalypse evolved into something massive
This scene was really effective and incredibly well helmed. Seeing the horror and dismay of all the characters as they witness the chaos and destruction of the fallen city from afar. It felt very realistic in its portrayal. Like you were standing there with them. Left with only your imagination to envision how horrific of a scenario must be unfolding in the city. But the primary emotion was that of complete hopelessness. Like them seeing the full extent of the toll the virus had taken on civilization and feeling that fall from grace as they embrace each other. So fucking powerful. This show was amazing when it first came out.
ONGGG Bruh Id Love to see Actual goverment officials on the topic of how they are going to handle this virus and how the cdc is going come with a soultion its honestly disappoting to know How big the US military is with all its gear ships aircraft and weapons fell to abunch of slow moving decaying corpses.
It's likely that this occurred several days after LA was firebombed. Early on in season 2, there was no mention of the east coast being affected by firebombings, and it's likely the situation there wasn't as bad as the west coast. This happened likely when order broke down further, while the cast of Fear were on the ocean.
it was being order for all other state of US, they are being overrun by those walkers means military has no choice, atlanta , Los angeles, San diego, Portland, Seattle and Phoenix etc...are being bomb by napalm, military failed to contained the spread of infection.
I love to see this kind of scenes...everyones still alive with their flashlights and tents wondering whats going on. And its seems like a southern survival/horror show. And growing up in the south it feels so nostalgic. Now the show is just drama between characters and walkers are barely even in the show
10 and 9 years later I truly forgot how good the show was back then. TWD back in it's glory days. I miss episodes like this. Back when TWD was just about walkers and survival. Those were the good old days.
I wish we couldve gotten an epsiode of the militaries perspective. More than even in fear. Just the sense of fear, frustration, and hopelessness that the country has as everything it has tried, as the most advanced nation on the planet, has failed it. This is the last resort
TotalDrganMania I don't think they would hit the streets with napalm. They'd blow up the entire city with missiles to keep the infection from spreading.
Agreed we should have gone in an _another perspective_ this time it's a "Military Unit" could be a nice touch though, so we can finally see what's behind this "protocol" so called *Operation Cobalt* 🤔
TotalDrganMania there was gonna be an episode showing the fall of Atlanta and show how the tank zombie (Sam Witwer) got bitten and the origin of where that grenade came from. This idea was scrapped after they fired Frank Darabont and had a limited budget. Look up Sam Witwer’s interview it’s very informative
Season 1 by Frank Darabont is the best in the entire Zombie genre, along with Night Of The Living Dead. The ones that show the inital outbreak and collapse of society are always the best.
Honestly, this is a scene I keep coming back too just cause it feels like such a missed opportunity. Seeing Rick wake up and seeing his reaction to the world now being overrun by zombies was great a start, but honestly, I really wish we could’ve seen more of the military side of things overall in this show. The bombings, the tanks, the collapse of government and why/how, more development to the CDC, how it all started and how he government first reacted, definitely that Solider in the tank plot that was scrapped when Frank Darabont left, just overall I think all of this stuff would’ve made for such a great show moving forward, it still had it’s ups and downs and in my opinion ended fairly ok (the main show that is) but still, just better writing and different story telling would’ve made one of the greatest shows of all time.
The main show did not end "fairly ok", it was season after season of idiotic zombie scares and groups of humans fighting each other even though there was really no need for it.
in the walking dead universe, zombie lore isnt a thing. pretty sure the outbreak wouldnt have lasted as long if zombie lore was a thing in this universe
@@cia3740 you are right. Remember in the hospital scene when the military were executing nurses/patients they would shoot them in the head. They knew about the virus but it was manly a 1v50
These initial panic situations are so important to apocalyptic TV shows. Helps us relate to them and put ourselves into their perspectives which then later on after it's more fantasy than realistic we care deeply for the characters
I have seen this scene a thousand times over the years and it still manages to move shivers up and down my spine, to hear the explotions in the distance, to see Shane gasp almost in pure terror at seeing this highly dangerous explosive being thrown into his every day streets, in the darkness of the night, and hearing Lori cry as she herself fully realizes things are definitely worse than what it had been up to that point with that "virus" running around, now the modern humans understand the fact that their comforts where slowly fading away as chaos sets in and then Bang! As quick as a punch to the face everything came down on them. The world, the normalicy they knew, is going to be gone.. maybe even forever.
Okafor was in one of those helicopters commanding the military to bomb Atlanta and Los Angeles, and maybe New York, as we saw in the opening of Dead City, they bombed the bridges in Manhattan.
Man the attention to details and the camera work is top notch. Shane is terrified, Lori is slowly realising there's no return to normal lol even that random woman crying alone in her car. And all those older bystanders with their damn flashlights :( you can imagine most of these people didn't make it as shit got even worse the following weeks.
Ace That was back when people didn’t feel the need to complain about how the show wasn’t good anymore. It’s almost like it’s “cool” now to comment about how the show isn’t as good anymore.
@@Malcolmdeeb I usually am on your side. I hate it when people say "back when it was good" or stuff like that, but this is deserved. It just fell off around season 6 or 7. They should have ended it. Especially after they confirmed that there's no chance for a cure, like what's the point then?
While Shane and Lori saw Atlanta being bombed, Madson and the Fear characters were seeing Los Angeles in flames, being bombed by the military, And now with Dead City, we know that parallel to that, over in New York, the military was bombing the city, and they destroyed the bridges of Manhattan, because there was one of the first places where there was an outbreak of zombies.
This scene always gave me a lot of sympathy for Shane and Laurie. They literally thought he was dead and went through the start of the apocalypse, of course they’re gonna hook up
I thought this made them so much more relatable. The times spent together during the ramp-up to the way the world was changing created a trauma bond. I still feel bad for Shane. He was being such a stand up guy.
@@kathyparrow1390 Well he turned up being prick but gotta handed to him. He replaced Rick as a father figure and protected them. They didnt die on Shane`s watch.
3:31 this is what I love about shows like this. You can see he wanted to put his arms behind or on his head but put them in front of him because he didn't know how to react. That's realistic acting, and it makes the show way more believable when something like that happens. It's small, but it works
I get exactly what you mean and you're right, it shows his anxiety and not knowing how to react, it's a subtle but powerful emotional trigger for the audience.
I wonder if Carol is one of the greatest character developments ever. She has survived an extremely tough road from abused housewife to Wolves, Terminus, Alpha destroyer.
I liked having scenes like this in these kinds of shows showing the confusion and panic take place as society breaks down and the world ends and showing what happened in other places like europe asia canada and australia etc.
This show used to be so good back then. Just look at this scenes and the flashbacks when people we're so desperate and scared and the military who as a last resort bombed it's own citizens, and they made even larger hordes of the undead. I think that's why they got overrun.
I'd love to see a spinoff leading up to this. The fight for survival in a metropolitan area, the overrunning of the military, and the fall of the civilian center. All ending with this scene. I honestly think it would be fantastic.
“Hey I know it’s a chaotic apocalypse and all, and there’s no methods of communication left. But I need you to stay here with the stranger in this crowd of people we don’t know while I wander up the road with my boyfriend.”
Honestly all the show should've been about was the initial outbreak and following few weeks of survival, and left at that. All this stuff with rival survivor groups and bloodthirsty warlords is stuff that fits better in Mad Max. We wanted more scenes with the outbreak, cops vs the Walkers, military vs the Walkers, stories of ppl fleeing their jobs to get their families to safety amongst the chaos worldwide. That would've made for a better show imo
@@gametvon98 Sadly the movie was a joke or insult towards the source material. Sprinter-Hivemind-Ant-Zombies piling up into huge mountains that would be bone and body crushing to the lower parts of the mountain...no, I didn't feel that.
The comics also had this scene twice except the military didn't bomb the cities, the comic shown Lori and Shane in the traffic jam alone talking about how her parents were dead and Carl was fast asleep in their car, they then had sex. Sometimes the show does it better then the comics but then the comics logically avoid crap like season eights episode where the Saviors infect Hilltops army leading to a walker outbreak.
It's Operation Cobalt. Aka The Night The Sky Fell. It was also seen in Fear the Walking Dead where they explained this: the military napalmed all of the major cities in a failed attempt to contain the outbreak.
