Simon: Kids! Is a line we do not cross. Me: Hey, Simon. Cyndie’s 11 year old brother and all of the men of Oceanside, would like to have a word with you.
To me people breathing the methane of walkers to get high isn’t that far fetched. People go to great lengths to get high today. After the end of world? I’m sure people would be willing to do a lot of things to escape that.
If Tommaso didn't get bit I think I'll be alright with that because Tyreese got swarmed by lots of walkers in season 4 and didn't get bit maybe he's like... their groups Tyreese 🤷♀️
I think in the previous episode when the bounty hunter mentioned negan was on the island made the croat aware he's coming for him, maybe that's why he blew up Madison square gardan cause he knew. also the croat seems highly intelligent.
how did he know they were coming? Well, there's the marshall who told him and there's Negan who did the knock knock joke at the bank, killing one of Croats ppl. They must've informed him. He said "still helping the Widow". He's quite an intelligent fellah that one. I'd like to think he figured things out. Another good episode in the books. 2 more of these and I consider this a succesfull S1. Hope Dixon will build on this with equal quality.
Croat's known the whole time that Maggie was bringing Negan. She said I have to be honest with you. Then stopped after finding the container. Croat said oh your still helping the widow? How did he know that? The Marshall didn't know her nickname.
I've been itching to see your reaction to Simon! I agree with Josh, I have a bad feeling about Thommaso. I do think he got bit. Reminds me of Carl in the woods with Sadiq and thinking "how is he not bitten??!!" Well, he was lol. Awesome reaction
Agreed, as to Pearly. I think the two things that will convince him are: 1: Hearing what 5 marshals/magistrate did to Annie and why Negan killed them, and 2) Realizing that Negan and "the widow" can coexist, despite what had happened in the lineup and all out war (story he told in first episode specifically). Maybe showing what's what isn't all it appears to be. And maybe also, it helps also set-up a Season 2 plot aimed at what New Babylon is all about.
@@creepy6117 Simon went to the Jersey Shore? We got a situation 😜.. just kidding my friend. I use like that show years ago. I said the exact same thing you said earlier. It was at Oceanside. He forced Arat to kill all the young boys and he also killed Jadia’s entire community. So I’m thinking Simon either was kissing up to Negan to rise up in the ranks or maybe like Rick. Simon wasn’t as ruthless at first. Then just like Rick changing his ways of doing things and doing things the way Shane did them after some time had passed. Maybe Simon started to think more like the Croat after some time passed by .
Yeah but what he did in the previous episode of gutting one of the burazi in front of their geng makes no sense. Like he was sending a message that he's the same ruthless negan to croat, but in this episode he saves the Marshall
I think those walkers outside the Subway entrance had to be part variant. They were walking too fast considering they were just wandering around, not chasing a person or a noise. I think the walkers down in the subway could be a different kind of variant. Why did they just keep laying there while everyone walked by them? We've seen how if they are just laying there and somone makes a noise they usually get right on up (like in TWD season 11 episode 1). Who is Jerome and what else did he tell the Croat? He knew to call Magie "the widow", but didn't know Negan lost Lucille? Unless asking about the bat was a dig at him. And he didn't seem to know that Negan got taken down either, but knew the Sanctuary was gone? I think there will be a season 2. The girl who plays Ginny said in a recent interview that she's due back in NY soon to begin filming it.
I was thinking the same thing that Tommaso may be a mole. He was the only one that got away? We saw how the Croat dealt with that other dude who tried to escape. I also think there maybe an underlying reason of why he may not have been bit.
I loved this episode. Especially where the walkers are walking (quickly) by the subway. So nothing's changed in NYC. Just a regular Monday morning commute! LOL! And yes, I'm originally from NY. It was great seeing Simon again.
Something else that fascinates me is the Croat's reaction to seeing Negan, seeming all buddy buddy and not bent on revenge. But rather, trying to impress his old friend. To me, that partially deflates the theory that Maggie made a deal with Croat to turn over Negan for Hershel's return. Not completely. Because the deal could still apply, even if Croat wanted to get his old friend back. Or if that's all just for show, as an attempt to trick Negan. Given that we've yet to even have an intro for Lisa Emery of Ozark, makes me think there's something else going on here as to motivation. Especially since Croat knows full well who Maggie is as the widow, so it appears the attack on Hilltop and Hershel's kidnapping may not have just been random.
@MHrickgrims It definitely doesn't seem random and we think Maggie lied about the circumstances when she mentioned it was all about the grain. Then they showed Ginny looking at a full grain silo, so it definitely wasn't just about the grain!
Maggie's been seriously irritating me... but in this episode, it occurred to me... maybe she's having issues with owning her and negan have some shit in common... maybe? - side note... the only thing worse than a crippling addiction... is a crippling addiction in the apocalypse....
You know the new hilltop could be that place that reapers took over Maggie could have took it back cuz she had to move hilltop and nothing was really destroyed over there and it's a school
I've seen lot of ppl comment on Simon's behavior, especially towards oceanside, and killing boys. At the time when he told croat we don't kill kids, what yall have to remember was that was further in the past and no doubt Simon was a straight up ass kisser to Negan. The dude would have licked his boots if asked, so even if he didn't care one way or another bout killing kids himself, of course he would say that to the croat in front of negan!!
just that short scene with simon we need a Tales episode with him and the saviors All these walkers pouring in and you are telling me there is not 1 variant in there.
Is it possible that the Croat has had these bombs set up for a protective measure all along. Think about it, I mean if a person is living in such a world wouldn't it be prudent to have set-ups like this?
Hey NocBro Nation! Wouldn’t the Croat suspect Negan was coming since the New Babylon Marshall told him he was hunting Negan? I’m sure the Croat would have suspected Negan would be coming for him.
@Promageddon The Marshal didn't know the plans but hearing Negan was here and the marshal was looking for him the Croat got ready. That's why Croat had the Marshal and not Hershel since Croat didn't know yet why Negan was there!
Overall, a pretty good episode. The only thing that annoyed me was how easily Ginny has been able to follow the group (all on her own & show up at the right moment) - Regarding the methane - it's huffing which is something new or original (although generating it from the dead is a weird twist.) I think that scene was actually to set up episode 5 where Maggie & the rest of the survivors are trying to make their way through a methane-filled sewer to safety - As for the Croat knowing that they were coming - he had a trap set up for them. To me this indicates that it's far more than just the information he got from the Marshal. Either there is some kind of surveillance system tracking them or there is(/was) a mole. I'm wondering if the young lady Buraz that Croat running his music system has any connection with any of the tribe members.
The actor that plays the Croat is in an episode of the x-files! He plays an autistic savant, very well acted! I will look up the episode and add to this comment
I think the croat already had it planned which is why he took hershall cause like he said you still working with the widow which means he already knew they were there. He also interrelated the Marshall who told him he was hunting negan. Aint no rat
When you guys mentioned about the group getting high from the gas and then you mentioned next week episode with the mutated walker. i said to myself i hope the writers dont have Maggie hallucinating 😂.The Croat knew the group were coming because his people were at the bank when Negan gut their people
I think it was a coincidence. I think croat is trying to rid the city of the walkers and negan and gang just happened to choose that night to infiltrate
True. But if so. Why did Luther say maggie and negan had to go. If you got a trap set why tell maggie and negan to leave so they didn't have to be there for the trap. Personally it just doesn't make sense to me
Tommaso is 100 percent bit. He got surrounded by 10 walkers and then showed up later miraculously seemingly untouched. It's so obvious he's gonna reveal a bite next episode
Watching this video and get a notification that you guys liked my comment on your last video lol love you guys. I just watched the new episode last night. It was pretty good. But yeah how tf did Croat know to sabotage his whole place? If they don't address that idk what to say
I couldn't reply directly to someone's comment but they wrote 6 questions/predictions/theroies. I think they are right. Negan will be trades for Hershal and then with Ginny being around Maggie will feel bad she will decide to go back for Negan.
I think Maggie all along has been playing Negan. She may have even tipped the marshala off. But I definitely think she has been in contact with Croat. If Negan is delivered he will let Hershal go.
When I saw the Croat I actually started thinking about that woman ("his wife possibly") and if she wants Negan it might be possible that she was related to Lucille in some way...but thats just a theory that popped into my head
Back again. Hate to say it. I still think that maggie and croat have something going on. The grain still doesn't make sense. Ginny keeps looking like she doesn't trust maggie. Which if she found out about the grain plan then would explain why she might be giving maggie odd looks. Maybe maggie mentioned something to the croat and that's how he knew. I know it's a long shot. But still.....
There's nothing to suggest that Croat had the place rigged just for Negan and whoever he may be coming with. He could have had that system in place for an emergency of any type, from anyone.
I agree, it's highly likely the Croat had the explosives set up, ahead of time, for an emergency. However, blowing them up & sending most of his crew out of the arena indicates he had a great deal of information about what was to come.
Love it! But my question here guys is..Do you think this is a front by Simon to rise up in the ranks with the Saviors? Or was he not quite as ruthless similar in a way like Rick was as compared to Shane early on. And like Rick, Simon just got more ruthless as time went on. Because Simon killed all the teenage boys at Oceanside?
I had a thought maybe jenny isn't her real name clementine but the Marshall killed her dad too. Idk just to go with the walking dead and music and my darling clementine is a commonly whistled tune idk
You should do a compilation of ur dance moves with all the twdu!!!! This episode was awesome to see Steven again!! But I am with negan he's a D. I feel like ITS A TRAP. M m MM Mole moley moley !!!!
Personally, I think there will be a season 2. Either they won't get Hershel back by the end and the search will continue in the next season or they'll find him in the finale and the second season could be them trying to defeat the Croat and get off the island.
the ratings are better than the last season of the walking dead so i think there will be a season 2 i think they will end it with saving herchel and killing croat he will not carry over season2 maggie will help negan find annie and joshua in missouri dead city doesnt have to stay just in new york there are alot of dead cities now maybe thats why they changed the title from isle of the dead because thats new york spicific
Tomaso has plot armour right now. He’s going to die after getting his girlfriend pregnant and will die In a way that makes the city safe. They set this up in an earlier episode
Negan can never be forgiven for what he did. No matter the change. But Maggie wont kill him in the way we think.. im calling it now.. in the finale episode i think he'll get bit saving hershel in a heroic fashion. And he'll ask Maggie to end it..
I got a what if scenario for Croat what if he survives all the way up to the final battle with the CRM & they somehow end up meeting & recruiting him because of his interrogation & torture skills & because of what he did before the world went to s***
I NEVER UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DONT EVER USE THE GUTS TRICK!! Once everyone was inside the octagon and stabbing walkers they could have used their blood & covered themselves up really good & JUST FUCKING WALK THRU ALL THOSE WALKERS SMFH LIKE DUUUH WTF SMFH SO STUPID!!!
I don't get the point of negan saving the Marshall when only last episode, he gutted one of the guys to get the word of mouth that he's the same negan as before
