This episode was so deep on so many levels. It’s probably my favorite because it show the intricacies of the emotions these characters felt like few other episodes did. Some people say it’s a filler but I honestly think this was one of the best episodes they made because it showed how the characters processed things and were struggling emotionally
right, this is the only episode i really remember distinctively from the series, which surprised me to see it was voted as one of the worst? definitely seems the most real, apocalyptic fuck it mentality plus up the mountain wolves is just chefs kiss, goes perfect with the episode.
I had a feeling Darly was expecting something like this to be said. Part of the reason why she wanted to play the drinking game was to explore Daryl’s “dark side” out of curiosity. Without consideration of how he may feel about it. She knows he had a rough life and rather not bring it up. She even tried to clean it up in a half ass way and say,” Where you a prison guard?”. Lol. Should never have gotten her drunk.
@@90skidcultistI’m not defending her but she is still a kid really,she’s about 16 and very sheltered/naive .true,she shouldnt have asked those questions knowing what she did about Daryl at the time ,however being drunk does inhibit critical thinking/brain to mouth filter which was likely a factor.point being he is the adult here and while she’s absolutely in the wrong ,so is he for reacting that way.
When Beth just hugged him! Even though he was being so mean to her, she knew he was breaking his walls down and just needed her comfort! 😭😭😭😭 I remember being annoyed by Beth when she first came on but season 3 and 4 showed just how caring and responsible she is, taking care of Judith. 😭😭😭 I couldn’t get over her death!
Really? Sucks to hear. It’s honestly one of my favorites in the entire series. I feel like it gave us a lot of insight to both characters, and overall was such a good watch.
I love this scene so much. Daryl truly believes everything that happened was his fault, and looking at Beth reminds him of all the worst things he believes about himself. But she is strong enough to say ‘No. You don’t get to wallow in self pity and blame. I don’t, you don’t.’ But it’s also combined with the message of ‘You don’t have to go through this alone.’ It’s exactly what he needed at the time. I miss their dynamic so much.
You can tell just in Daryls face when Beth hugged him, he never had that kind of love before, and he just crumbled. He hold so little value over himself that he didnt even think he deserved any comfort. Even when he was practically screaming for it. Feeling guilt over things that he could not control and spiraling into this cicle of self loathing. Questioning his place in the group.
This just shows more much Daryl blames himself for loosing others, he even tried to push away Beth, because he thought, he did too little to protect her dad
No offense but Beth is a kid she's a minor and Daryl is way too old for her I do love them both a lot but only friends or brother and sister but I respect your opinion
9 years ago today this episode aired. All this time later, it’s still my favorite episode. I don’t see a lot of love for it, but it’s one of the best episodes of the show and my personal favorite episode. It shows how good TWD is with character writing without having a whole lot to do with walkers.
This episode made my heart ache so much because I fell in absolute love with Beth. She was the sweetest person ever and I wanted her to find happiness and love ❤️
I’m gonna be a complete loser and dissect this entire scene on a RU-vid comment section… but this scene is SO important and GOOD, for both of these characters. At this point, Beth and Daryl have been stuck together for days. They are lost, hopeless and aimless. They are the only thing the other has left of their family, but they aren’t connecting or doing anything besides survive, and scarcely at that. They’ve both known each other for a while now, they care about the other but they aren’t close, they know almost nothing about each other. And they are so different! They look at life and their situation from two very distinct POV’s. Daryl is not letting himself feel the loss of the group, wants to disconnect as much as possible and just focus on moving on, without processing anything for even a second, because to him- this is familiar, he has lost his family again and again, there is no point in having hope or trying to look for them, ‘cause he’s jaded. He knows it’s pointless. Beth tho, I love her I swear to God. She’s still barely an adult, has almost no real experiences, from being sheltered at her home life at the farm, with the privilege of always having a loving and caring family, never knowing abuse or hardships. The opposite of Daryl really. When the apocalypse starts, she’s a teenager who just lost her mom, she realizes the world is actually screwed and what her dad says to her is bullshit. She sees that, and she wants out, while she has the choice. She wants to commit suicide on her own terms, like Jacqui did (from the CDC, remember?). There, she’s depressed but frankly realistic in her worldview, until she actually attempts to kill herself and reacts like she’s terrified! Turns out, she doesn’t actually want to die. She finds strength in holding on to hope, on believing on something greater, on kindness and on her family, on her people making through the rough patches even while losing their loved ones, she believes they are good so there MUST be good still. You just need to find it. And they do, they find the prison and make it a home, and she survives alongside her family, while still being sheltered. She learns to find a role and a purpose in the group, something she can do to contribute, something she’s good at. Her dad is still with her, so is Maggie, and she finds she’s lucky. Hershel teaches her they all have jobs to do, and she has a responsibility, and she doesn’t get to be afraid or sad because people are depending on her, Judith is depending on her, and this she feels she can do. She sings for them, to bring light to the dark times and to remind everyone of what truly matters, of what isn’t lost. It’s fascinating to remember how she dealt with her sister being kidnapped. She was brave even then, even tho she wasn’t particularly strong, she volunteered to come rescue her sister. When her boyfriend died, she says she doesn’t cry anymore. And that’s for show too, just as much as Daryl’s toughness act was. In that moment, she even asks Daryl if HE’s okay, and it’s so surprising to see him be honest even if awkward. He says he’s tired of losing people, and she hugs him! She comforts him, because that’s what she’s always known to be the best way to connect and get through someone. She’s an affectionate girl and so are the other Greene’s. THEN she loses her DAD. He’s killed RIGHT IN FRONT OF HER, while her family is separated and her home is torn apart. But she doesn’t let that stop her from thinking they somehow made it out alive, that they’ll find each other. And she’s fed up with Daryl’s bullshit! She wants to LIVE. And if it’s the end of the world, and she could die at any moment, why not do something she’s never done anyway? Why not do something to FEEL something? So she wants a drink. And at this point, Daryl doesn’t understand this at all. They both don’t see each other yet, they don’t understand each other. They need resolution, confrontation. So. This scene. She gets drunk, and because she’s inexperienced. Because they are so different. Because she’s a young girl- she doesn’t have the sensibility, or tact? I guess? To realize what she’s asking Daryl. The assumptions she’s making about him. What she’s saying about him, about who he WAS and not who he is now. And he worked so hard to find his purpose now. Away from Merle, doing something where people actually need him. Where he is useful, and people genuinely care about him. His opinions, his judgment, his well-being. He fought for that. He’s also drunk, and he’s pissed. He thinks she doesn’t get it. Like he said. That she’s just a naive, reckless chick, and his responsibility. He doesn’t know her either. So he judges her right back, STRONGLY. Throws right at her face, every little thing he can think of that might make her insecure. Like how she seems to live in a fantasy land, relies on others for protection, how she “cut her wrists looking for attention”. And of course he’s trying to hurt her, like she carelessly hurt him. Because he thinks SHE thinks it’s all a game, he drags her outside to “play” some more. She’s done now tho. Getting pissed herself. And it’s BEAUTIFUL how well written this is. How well acted. It’s so raw, they did it so well. She lays at him how this ISN’T a game, that killing walkers isn’t supposed to be fun. She values human life, and the people they once were. Might be naive? Yes, but she has a lot to learn still. She screams about how he’s been acting, how it’s BULLSHIT. How he acts like none of this affected him at all, like he’s not completely miserable. Dude, when he says “is that you think?” and his voice BREAKS? POETIC CINEMA!!!! Just brilliant! He’s hurt, and somehow he expects her to see right through him? To somehow KNOW him when he doesn’t let people get too close? She answers “it’s what I know”, and it just shows how observant she really is.
My favorite part tho, is when she says exactly what he’s thinking to him (and SHE KNOWS!). She accuses him of looking at her as just another person he’s going to lose. Of not SEEING her. Like she’s just someone else he has to protect, but will eventually die. She says “I know you look at me and just see another dead girl”. And she acknowledges that she’s not like the others. Again, she’s surprisingly realistic in a lot of ways. She knows she isn’t like Maggie, Carol, Michonne. She doesn’t think she’s strong, but she doesn’t think that matters because she made it, made it by being useful in her own way. She knows he’s afraid, throws that in his face! He hates it that she’s right, of couse. Again, they don’t know each other, but they see A LOT. Daryl remembered so many details about her for some reason, because he does that with everyone. Everybody knows that the hunter and tracker is observant, sees things others don’t see (I like how later when he’s teaching her how to track, he says “the signs are all there, you just gotta know how to read them”). But so is Beth! And we didn’t know this, previously. We weren’t shown a lot of depth when it came to Beth before this season. Which was why it’s one of my favorites too, we learned a lot more about the core family’s individual characters. Back at it. He accuses her of not caring, like him, for not crying over her dead boyfriends. And she says “you don’t get it”, because he really doesn’t. He looks at this all differently from her. She doesn’t get it from this POV either, not REALLY. She doesn’t understand why he’s hiding or putting a front when she knows exactly what he’s feeling inside. And then the crux of the fight! He thinks the family is all dead, and he shouts at her like it’s something she isn’t seeing and he NEEDS her to get. And she refuses to believe that. She says they don’t know that. He says IT DOESN’T MATTER. Because to him it really doesn’t. Dead, not dead. Don’t matter. He doesn’t think they’ll ever see them again. So “they might as well be”. I like how he mentions Rick here, like it just came out. Like he’s talking to himself, reminding himself. Your brother, you lost him. (again)
I almost forgot: she mentions Sophia!!!! She reminds him how he WAS once hopeful, like her. She says “you were like me”, he didn’t give up, THEN, on the belief that Sophia was alive, no matter what others said. Beth acknowledges this, and how he’s allowed himself to change. She accuses him (again) of closing himself off. What she doesn’t fully get is why. She thinks he did that willingly, because it’s easier maybe. That’s not why. “Now God forbid you ever let anybody get too close” *chef’s kiss* *TELL HIM GIRL*
After mentioning Rick. When he turns around and finally starts letting it all out. After he released his anger and all he was left with was his sorrow, he could tell her. Exactly why he’s been like this. He feels TREMENDOUS shame and guilt. He thinks it’s his fault, that he could have somehow helped more or saved Hershel from his fate. He thinks protecting the group is always his responsibility, so it hits him hard that it all happened on his watch. He says “maybe it’s cause I gave up. Stopped looking. That’s on me”, like he was the only one who did that. Who chose to do that?? And you can see in this moment that Beth can read the situation pretty well. She also let’s go of her anger, because she finally sees what’s happening. She sees him breaking down, and how much he is carrying with him. How much he needs her, her light, and they both don’t even know it. So again, she chooses to comfort HIM in a moment that is also hard for her. She chooses to let go and focus on what is important. This broken man that she can help, in her own way. When she tries to touch him at first, he refuses. Like he doesn’t deserve comfort. It’s so sad!
She doesn’t hesitate to fight him on this tho, and goes to put her arms around him anyway. He breaks down completely now. He starts sobbing and I love her expression here! She’s frowning HARD and she looks at him so full or concern and care, and she lays her head on his back, and stays there.
@sagecrops7368 giirl this is amazing..it is exactly like that..I would really like to see your point on the rest of their story together..like until she got kidnapped or when she got shot and he killed that woman immediately.. What's you point on the rest of their story?
@@habwbfbxjj2963 Tge actress was in her 30s on the scene. Her character was early to mid 20s. Wtf you talking about? A child is an 8 year old, not 18-25.
@@lukefromtexas the character was only like 19, Daryl would’ve been in his 30’s. If you think that is okay then you’re just creepy. 19 is still a child that is still developing and maturing.
In terms of writing, this is the best arc out of the first 5 seasons. A pity that 5th season was so bad that it made me drop the series with Beth's awful and meaningless death, the boring plot of Alexandria, and a season finale that was really dull; because this short arc of Daryl and Beth was really good. Peak quality of the show
I agree Beth's death was meaningless but the Alexandria plot imo was good, the group was very tough at that point and came into a group of weak people, I had a good time watching Rick deal with the problems and try to toughen up everyone. And the finale was good, with Glenn and Nicholas, Morgan dropping in on a completely changed Rick. But that's just my opinion
@@chad_inprogress Sure everybody has different ways of seeing something. Imo Beth's death made me think "What is the point of keeping watching this show if they're just gonna kill 90% of the characters without any important connotation or relevant reason". That really put me off. And I don't think Alexandria was terrible though, but I think it was kinda dull
@@faustovii1085 yeah Beth's death was kind of pointless lmao, she shoulda just stayed behind and let Rick do all the talking, or Noah shoulda waited outside or something. And wtf did Beth think she was doing, stabbing her infront of her own people whom were armed and could kill her in a second, still she stabbed Dawn, she had so much potential lol, and the writers ruined it
It makes me wonder if maybe they originally had other ideas for Beth’s character arc, and what happened to make them change their minds in season 5. In season 4 they chose to give her a lot more screen time then she ever had before, and give her a lot more depth. They purposefully showed her picking up a spoon with “Washington DC” written on it, foreshadowing her reunion with the rest of the group and Maggie, and she kept it. But then she’s taken. I think she was always supposed to go to Grady, but she was supposed to live. Idk why they chose to kill her off
After the Prison split, i just loved Michonne's character arc and her back story. it was like i was seeing through Michonne's heart and dwelling with her emotions. Michonne has become my favourite character.