@@Cobalt_Colonel It was in scene where Lucille was in bed and she and Negan were talking about going out and getting medical supplies. I think she had an over shirt on covering the t-shirt underneath so only if you were eagle eyed you would see it.
@@isaiahmatedne7966 Agreed, Ryan is awesome. In the comics Beta was around 7ft, so really towering over everyone. He was a basketball player and celebrity before the apocalypse.
That's my favorite detail. I love when adaptations see where the original went wrong and use little changes like this to make the story richer and more coherent
Uh....I’m 6 5” .... the shittiest fucking thing being tall, is u can’t find clothes that fit! XXL Tall. Try and find anything NOT online in that size. So Halfmoon didn’t want to wear a size large around for years n years. Also...I did some time in jail, n their shirts r crap already , and they didn’t fit me at all...wearing them for 10 months was hell!
I like how Negan finally recognized him after Daryl killed him and his mask was ripped off.. Negan was like "Wait, dont we know that guy? Who is he?" Daryl was like "a nobody"
The episodes on RU-vid already, we'll have to wait until the season finale for everything to play out...but since "production stopped", it may be a while until we see what happens
We need a small mini series like the Red Machete where it shows how Beta ended up where he meet Alpha and how his best friend died and a little bit of his early life with the pre whisperers
Betas death was so anticlimactic. I thought it was gonna be a huge fight that they barely win. But nope, Daryl finds him in the herd and just stabs him. Very ho-hum.
Despite their twisted ways and resentful actions I can't help but feel tremendous sympathy for both Alpha and Beta. They seemed like they were misfits that were damaged goods way before and the end of the world sent them completely over the edge. They've seen themselves in each other, despite reciting doctrine that the whisperers don't have any emotions, they feel deep affection for each other.
Beta yes I can understand a bit, but I feel Alpha has sort of almost brain washed Beta and almost radicalises him. I feel Beta hasnt been evil but just slowly became evil bc of Alphas manipulation and brain washing. you can see glimpses of concern over Alphas evil ideas. I feel like Alpha is pretty much evil and slightly psychotic. where as Beta still retains some morality even if he doesnt show it he hides his feelings away bc hes becoming too distant to what he once was and his humanity has become twisted.
I love Beta, he's the most evil villain we've had he's more ruthless than the Governor, and Negan. I hope he's not killed, that maybe he just retreats and disappears after the Whisperer war.
I’d be happy for him to leave after loosing the battle and maybe we get a few episodes with him on a journey to find himself again and he’ll remove his mask and turn up at ocean side as half moon
I kinda want to see a Beta backstory in the show , where you can see and learn a lot about him , and i loved that scene with him at the house with Alpha her head 😂😂
Really powerful that even a guy like that can be changed so radically by trauma. My favorite part of the show is the way the setting changes the characters. Not gonna lie when Daryl said “a nobody” it reminded me of The Postman and that whole Tom Petty thing.
Ahhh - The Postman! It seems that singers and guitar players would come into high fashion when TV and cell phones go away. But in the case of the ZA I guess late night jams could attract Walkers.
Interesting idea Hurst had about Beta's reason for always wearing the mask, but I would have been equally fine with it never having an "explanation." Until the 'reveal' I simply thought it was an example of a character for whom their Walker mask became almost literally a part of them.
The part that doesn't make sense though about the backstory of him losing his mind when he killed somebody who had his band t-shirt on who broke into his house. The problem is that he was in mental hospital and just holed up in there until Alpha game and took him with him, he was just there chilling with his zombified councellor.
James, thankyou for the kind words. Im up in the Northeast pretty close to the NH line, and we are just trying to play it smart. We will persevere! As for yourself, stay smart, stay safe, and I look forward to some more cool vids. God Bless you Brother!
Beta is such an interesting scary character i think it would be cool to see him just surviving on his own and how he interacts to random survivors and there reaction to him
Thanks for your videos! All of my friends quit watching years ago and your videos make me feel like I can actually have a conversation with someone about the show. Shows me things I missed when I watched. Keep it up and stay safe!
gotta give it to angela kang for drawing out beta in the show much better than in the comics. him being a famous singer is super symbolic because of the way he controlled crowds before and after the end of the world
I kinda wish they had stuck with the professional athlete backstory, but a professional wrestler or an nfl linebacker instead. It would have explained why he was such a great fighter and why his reflexes and pain tolerance was through the roof. I can just imagine someone like Triple H or Kevin Nash becoming someone like Beta if the apocalypse happened.
Over the years, I think Beta concluded that the world before the apocalypse was dead. I believe that he still keeps the mask on to forsake his former life as a world famous country singer. He doesn't want to be reminded of it. I remember the comic book Beta's death and wonder if it will be similar to Beta from the show where he'd rather be known as nothing or nobody than as the inspirational country singer. The moment when Beta is playing his song to gather the horde of walkers, he couldn't help remembering his former life. You don't hear the walkers in scenes of only him on that balcony looking at the walkers. That moment was the only time when he missed his old life. I think that he'll most likely be killed off in the season finale, unless the Walking Dead crew needed Beta to remain for a longer duration. Danai Gurira (Michonne) is no longer on the show, but Lauren Cohan will be back as Maggie. They are coming to the Commonwealth storyline that will bring in more antagonists. May be the season finale was meant to be longer than an hour (I don't know), but I'd see Beta sticking around only if he was given a redemption arc. May be also if a character who is an antagonist in Commonwealth is not on the show.
Beta is one of the most interesting characters in the whole show for me. I wish we could've seen a bit more of him before he got killed off. I wouldn't have been opposed to see a whole Beta backstory episode like how Negan got!
One thing about the Walking Dead... There are no pop culture references concerning the pre apocalypse world. No mention of politicians, celebrities, popular music, landmarks, etc... Kinda wierd.
"These two eyes..." etc. WAS it a suicide note? He was a famous singer/songwriter, and this is how songs are written-little scraps of lyrics, here and there. Maybe it's a scrap of a song lyric. He wasn't much for talking, songs were probably his one means of deep communication. Also, I was under the impression that the building where Alpha and "Half Moon" met was a rehab clinic. It would have made sense he might have been in rehab during "The Fall", which explains why he was so dark and eccentric in the first place!
I love what they've done with Beta on the show. So much better than his comic counterpart. If he does stay on longer, I hope they kill him off in a big epic climax compared to the comic.
Yeah...but sometimes a cheap death is so unexpected, it’s just as good as crazy over the top death too. Judith shooting the big ugly fuck throwing him against the wall, was awesome! Most realized he wasn’t dead , but still was fun n we didn’t for sure either...until 12 Seconds later
Hey James, we've just had our third week of lockdown here in the Czech Republic. You can go out to the supermarket or pharmacy or for exercise but you must be alone, wear a mask, and wear gloves. It's too early to say if it's working but people are sticking to the rules. Everything else is closed and it's likely to stay that way for a few more weeks. Some people complained about this episode but I really liked it and I really hope they do more with Beta as he's one of the most interesting villains on the show (I haven't read the comics). Making a new mask, half of Alpha's head and the original half from his friend was BAD ASS and the Half Moon album title was so fitting for this. Thanks for keeping the videos coming and keep safe. This is definitely not just "the flu".
Hey - thank you for the update! What you describe is the ONLY way we can get around this Pandemic.....if we can get through it - here in US the "checks" the Gov wants to send out will be very late getting to the people....I fear for things like looting, theft, etc around here. Stay safe my friend...I want to be able to be here talking TWD AFTER this crisis passes with ALL OF YOU! Stay safe!
@@TWDExplained I really hope that this does not happen. This is a new time where people must not be selfish. Trying to buy everything in the supermarket is not fair - really people should ONLY buy products that will last and only what they NEED. Social distancing is so important and I think that has really worked here. We know that we must do this and we do it. It's very hard psychologically but if this is the only way then we must do it. It's sad to hear about the looting. I know that this is happening in some countries for different reasons and the lack of appreciation for essential workers makes me sad. The medical workers, the people delivering food, the volunteers, the people who are cleaning and disinfecting the streets - all of these people deserve so much RESPECT! Keep safe and healthy my friend.
Negan killed Alpha in order to prove his loyalty to the group and Carol got her revenge by giving the orders and putting her head on a spike. It felt right for the characters to do that. Negan got redeemed and Carol got her revenge. Now that Negan's proved himself to be a good guy, we need the main group to accept him. And what better way to do it then have the most important member of the group save his life? That guy is Daryl. We need to see Daryl having his moment, but also have him finally accept Negan. Negan already got his moment when he killed Alpha. Daryl has had a great fight with Beta before. It feels right for Daryl to kill Beta, and by doing so save Negan who needs to fight Beta and lose before that.
Beta is my favorite villain the show has ever had to be honest he is one of my favorite character from a show or a movie of course Snake Plissken from Escape from New York is my favorite character of all time.
I always thought that he had done something like killed his family or something really traumatic and he can't bring himself to look at himself. Then the fact that he was super famous and everyone would recognise him made it unbearable to keep his face exposed
I wish Beta could have survived and been taken prisoner to be turned over to the good side and fight amongst the TWD gang and also forgive Negan for killing Alpha eventually. Beta would have become a deadly asset for the TWD gang to overcome future challenges. TWD show should have made twists in their narrative to make the overall story better in contrast to the comic books.
Just imagine you and your homie seeing a psychotic version of Alan Jackson or some shit getting ripped apart after trying to fight him for months when he killed some people from your home town that you used to just see mulling about but you eventually got close to.
He gets famous and the world ends. Like the guy in The Stand. Alpha got lo live her musician boyfriend fantasy. He only shows half of his face on the album cover, Half Moon.
Its feels more like to me that his 'Half Moon' self died in the apocalypse so he doesnt want anyone to see him. He is a whisperer a walker As a fictional symbol...a REAL embodiment of the walking dead and a metaphir of all their lives they left behind, and those they lost. Half Moon is no more the is only Beta now
I think there are still Whisperers out there. Other tribes, other camps. I hope there are. Season 11 Trailer has a couple scenes involving a Whisperer mask or a couple of em. Could just be leftover Whisperers-turned-Walkers or just a lone mask or 2. Or just from a Whisperer corpse that was shot or stabbed in the head, and never turned because of the head injury.
Hey, James, thx for the great video and filling in the blanks. I’m from SW Missouri and our governor issued stay indoors till April 24 or 26. But they’ll extend it I’m sure.
Beta are for sure the coolest character in the walking dead in a long time. I love him so fucking cool and his voice makes it all like wow. Only sad we don´t get to see his origin more in the show. He are for sure tho my second favorite villain in the entirely show where Negan are number one :)
I'm in Seattle, and it's crazy how empty the streets are downtown. People are taking it seriously, but cabin fever is setting in HARD. My grandson was born on the 25th, and I still haven't seen him in person, which is killing me. I hope you and your loved ones stay healthy, James. And thank you for entertaining us in this weird, ugly time. You're appreciated. Ok, onto the video; Beta's back story just makes me feel so horrible for him. But I mean, he's actively choosing to be evil. He could've walked away from Alpha, but he never did. Negan is still my favorite villain, but I'm waiting to see how far Beta goes... he might just be the most evil of ALL the villains. That would be pretty cool.
Thank you and CONGRATS on the grandson - I am so sorry you have not seen him yet - I cannot even imagine that feeling. As long as people stay home - I think it shall pass.
Loved your video man that really made my day im in Southern California and every one is wearing masks and bandanas when they go out I'm just getting worried we need to catch a break soon!!!
Alpha heard beta singing or humming actually and maybe that's where she kinda figured out who he was and he scolded her because she started humming back.,..just a thought
I saw a trail were there is a big fight between Beta and Daryl. Took three days to film they said. Do not know how it ended. Should be really good. Here in TN we on order to stay in for next two weeks. It is ok with me We are just starting to climb in the number of cases. This is the time to stay home to remain safe. I hope the best for everyone. For me. I am reading the bible with my grandson. If ever, people needed to learn about Jesus and eternal life, imo I would say it is now. Hopefully we will all be better people and kinder when this is all over. Take care .
Really does look like the end of Times?! Beware if the pope or a president or world leader dies soon too! This was prophesies in the Bible. Then we’ll all hear 4 deafening trumpet blasts in the air all over the world- this is day 1 of of our last 8 years.
Betta don’t seem like the type to want to keep “something positive” alive or keep a positive image alive, seems he just didn’t want ppl knowing who he was for lots of reasons
I love real Easter Eggs when they connect the universes together. It was awesome and then when Negan. Of all people noticed who he was. Classic that why I still love the show and the spin-offs.
He was in- Outsiders, too. WGN show about mountain folk. Played hillbilly bad ass family dealing with modern times. Damn good show, but they killed it after 2 seasons, cuz the cast was so good they wanted more money n WGN killed off their #1 hit show! Pissed me off!! My 2nd fave show at the time besides TWD
