As a German, I can say true point what you said about the German education 👍 We learn about it, we’re not responsible for it, but we’re responsible for not repeating it.
The type of system you (and Trevor) describe is (most of the time) not what is being objected to. If you look at NH’s HB544, the prohibited ideas are all items that amount to racial essentialism, yet they are still getting heat for it. It’s as if the bill’s opponents actually favor racial essentialism.
We also talked critically about thanksgiving and the atrocities done to the natives. However, at least in my experience, German history classes were always very focused on the holocaust but we did not really discuss our involvement in colonialism.
@@Jannyl13 It's because we came so late for the party and we started WWI because we were jealous of how successful the other nations were with colonialism.
I'm sure you can still find schools that don't mention slavery as a cause for the civil war and paint it as farmers versus dem mean ol northern' city folk (gods I wish I was joking)
@@Elias_Ehler Got better though at least in my year, because we focused more on the Kaiserreich in Highschool. However the genocide on the Herero and Tutsi remained a side note.
i mean, can they though? it's possible certainly. and should be quite common. but seems like people can't do it. it's like "dude, i know you're not Thomas jefferson, relax." It shows that a lot of white americans, whom don't consider themselves racist, can't even fathom being on black people's side... because they're white.
for real!! I have seen white women online actually crying because their kids will learn to hate America & white people. What they don't get is that MAYBE their kids will learn to respect and appreciate other races because ummm we are not our only race. There are many many races in the *world* not only in America! Sheesh!
How about just teach history. No fillers and no leave outs. Just teach it the way it happened. Anything else, theories and whatnot is bs. Just. Teach. History. Accurately.
It’s interesting too bc a lot of the adults who are currently against it clearly wasn’t taught the truth. Fact is, a lot of these kids are learning this stuff and more rapidly on tiktok. Now do we want to put an actual curriculum in and teach it correctly and honestly or let anyone with a cellphone teach them whatever even if it is false. Misinformation plagues this time period, I’d hate for it to plague the minds of my and future generations
And the fact that the Fox Anchorwoman tried to use a line from MLK's speech and twist it for her narrative was also disgusting. Like, I almost have a feeling that there were plenty of people watching who didn't know it came from MLK and she knows it.
that's how Christopher Columbus was considering a hero for so long allot of history is based on lies and many don't want to acknowledge the obvious at least not admit the evil
They need to stop teaching kids that there is a distinction between American history and Black history. Its ALL american history, and pretending one isnt american and isnt worth teaching is vile.
For exceptionalism to work you must first divide. That's why this isn't a simple problem to solve. Culturally speaking American's are raised to believe we a exceptional. Doesn't matter what it is based off of either. It could be because we're American, what state we come from, what school we went to, our color or our individual ability. The belief in exceptionalism is party of our national identity and it would be very difficult to change that.
Weird how the anti PC crowd is fighting to keep a PC telling of this country's history. Snowflakes can't handle the inconvenience and uncomfortable bits so it has to be watered down and sanitized.
That's the issue, distinctions are drawn and and it has to be separated for some silly reason. But in this separation the essence of jim crow remains, separate but equal is a statement of ignorance and fear of what one has not even tried to understand.
I'm a mexican immigrant that grew up in the US school system and this fella 1:46 summed up my elementary education experience. First step of growth is self-awareness. No one is calling anybody racist by teaching this in school. This is education for the next generation so that maybe perhaps the cycle of hate can finally end.
Critical race Theory comes from Marxist ideals. It literally teaches that arguments based on facts, evidence, and logic are a form of white supremacy, and therefore inadmissible. It’s all a ruse, to tell you we’re not being taught enough about our racist past. This mind thought will collapse our western civilization into socialism by the beliefs of the next generation if they continue this. It truly is damaging to its core.
I'm starting to think they just don't want the cycle to end... I mean, without racism it would be more difficult for the moneyed class to exploit the rest of us...
@@dammagrilla they don’t want the cycle to end your absolutely correct.They then come out with these insane ideals that on the front act as tho their against it, all the while promoting it behind the scenes. To say not everyone has the ability to overcome and be prosperous no matter what your skin color, in 2021, is absolutely ridiculous. We should be promoting hard work and determination. Not race theory.
@@KSealedvsK Who doesn't want it to end? I think we saw last year precisely the police arm of these entities, so tell me who did they serve when they clashed with protestors? Follow that and I think it's obvious it leads to you far more than it leads to me. Based on what exactly do think that is?
As an American living almost her entire life abroad with my whole family I was taught from an early age about different topics of American history I was taught the truth behind the civil war, slavery, how native Americans were slaughtered from their land, etc etc of course about all our presidents as well It can be done , and hiding it is beyond me To quote my father “America has never been squeaky clean to everyone”
Mistress of weirdness 84 Of course it can be done. Is that even a question? It's a matter of whether or not racist or biased whyte people won't attempt to get in the way
@@AKing69 I am also from ny, and my teachers taught us to be very critical about the us. We would always look at history in multiple point of view. Our teacher would always tell us “history is written by the victors”.
I am from Germany and when I went to school 20 years ago, our teachers covered the holocaust extensively. All through highschool we read books, watched movies, visited sites and heared contemporary witnesses at our school. This was all very impressive and all of these things made sure that the majority of my school mates have no acceptance for racism, xenophobia or nationalism whatsoever. It is important to hear victims and their stories. Empathy is a great teacher.
I am also from Germany and I must say, yes, we learn a lot about the Holocaust itself but never about how it came about that the Holocaust could happen. And now we are getting closer to making similar mistakes like a hundred years ago. We did not really learn from history (yet). Also, Germany's involvement in colonisation and past and present racism problems in Germany are not being talked about. Most Germans, is my impression, in their awareness of structural racism, and also explicit racism, are similar to Fox News.
@@nelequincke9099 In the second year of Oberstufe, our history teacher asked wheather we wanted to learn about how the NSDAP rose to power. We said yes. I think it should have been mandatory for every student, not just an option for those that go to Gymnasium.
Yeah, unfortunately we still do have a problem with racism. Not everybody gets to spend so much time on the topic, or if they did, some people still wouldn't care. This is exactly why it is so important to teach about these problems at school, when people still have fresh minds.
@@Benjamin7341 this! i remember visiting the KZ flossenbürg in 8th grade and it was a massive eye-opener...just like the dokumentationszentrum in nürnberg. and i agree it should be mandatory for all classes to do such trips. so that phrases like "never forget" are more than just fancy hashtags
I was taught nothing about slavery in my small town in oregon; then i moved to a city still in Oregon were a great teacher taught me about it and it changed my empathy for sure.
Did you know that Oregon banned Black people, took their land and wealth and exiled them. Oregon was then named “The White state”. Pretty sad history that I just learned myself. That experience is not limited to Oregon.
I think it's funny how confident he is slavery isn't taught here given the fact he didn't actually attend an American public school from K-12. If he did he'd know that we're taught about slavery starting at like 2nd grade, esp. in a school district with a large black population.
@@baller84milw are you saying that there is no way of knowing about something if you werent directly involved? the internet is full of knowledge and opportunities for research, he has a whole team who does it. Have you attended every school? or are you only basing your claim on your own experience? you just said, it DOES matter what school district youre in, which is why so many people are ignorant about the history of racism.
@@laylabeck7454 No it's just that he's so patently off that it's comical. At some point he has to realize that it's naive and arrogant to be so confident about something you have no personal experience with. I grew up in the 90's and I never met a kid that wasn't taught about slavery in school. This idea that schools just aren't teaching about slavery is ridiculous and comical. In MPS (Milwaukee Public Schools) we almost learned more about black history than anything else. I have a family member who's a teacher and they've said the same (the guidelines require they do this). They just spread this lie to get their base (people like you) all hyped up so you unwittingly defend a racist curriculum that teaches them only white people can be racist or bad. Ask yourself this: if slavery was abolished in 1865, and most white people immigrated here through Ellis Island which only opened it 1892 (30 years after slavery); then why do they teach kids that all white people had something to do with slavery? If our curriculum is so "pro-white" then why don't they teach that basic fact? Why do they teach young black children that most white people owned slaves when most white people's ancestors were still in Europe at the time? Also, using this same logic of scapegoating entire races, it would logically follow that we would prejudice and stigmatize all black people, based on the small percentage who are currently in street gangs or who commit violent crime. It teaches our youth backwards values and deep-seated resentment under the guise of "enlightenment" or wokeness 🤷♂
I am German and I must tell you, that is not easy learning about the holocaust without feeling guilty, although I am definitly not responsible. It is a delicate task for the teachers not to get along with the bad stuff, especially if it is still going on.
@@charmedleblanc I think the last quote fits very well. I dont know if I can speak for all schools, but in the last two years it is by far the most important topic. We also dont just talk about what happend during WW2 and the Holocaust, we talk about what was leading to those things and what impact it has on our society nowadays. I am very glad that I am learning about this.
@@charmedleblanc I don't know if I am glad I learned this. I just got it taught and think it's normal to know about such things so I am actually a bit shocked when seeing the numbers of America and how they deal with history class but at the same time I'm somehow not really surprised. So to come back to feeling glad or not... After learning about America I am now glad I learned about our German history. Previously I concidered it as normal. Of course here are people mentioning here and there that you don't learn about certain things but you can't learn everything there is to know just in history class but I think we learn a lot of general knowledge and that's better than nothing
They don't see or care that it is dangerous road to skip over any bad in U.S. or even World History. Next step is to re-write it... Sadly there are people today who believe and teach their children and others that the holocaust didn't happen. Teachings like that just contribute to hatred.
Agreed. I liked the disney pocahontas movie as a kid, as an adult i looked up the history (out of curiosity) only to find out that the only accurate line in the movie was "white men are dangerous"
@@bastiantakuya9076 our people didn't have the written stories, they had/have the verbal stories. The elders would tell the stories about their people to the children, that had been passed down generation to generation. There aren't as many elders today that have the stories of their history to tell. There are some, but not nearly enough.
You mean _true_ Native history, not the White-washed one they currently teach? That'll mean admitting that genocide and land theft did happen. 😱 They don't even teach the _full_ Declaration of Independence in schools. 🙄
I had a college friend from Louisiana. He never learned about the civil war in school. They taught him “The war of northern aggression,” where the mean old northerners hated freedom. We got a long way to go.
The "war of northern aggression" is, to my knowledge, taught throughout most of the South. This is relevant today because one of the central themes of right wing media is that the left HATES freedom, and is aggressive and violent. They repeat this meme every day, so when you grow up in school being taught about the violent lefties, their hatred of freedom, and their desire to control everyone, and THEN hear this same thing repeated by right wing pundits like Hannity, it comes across as unquestionably true... it resonates. And at that point these people will NEVER change their minds about the left.
I notice how certain people abuse keywords like "freedom", "in America", "liberty" just to get their half-assed point across. The irony in "mean old northerners hated freedom" is that they fought to end slavery which is the opposite of freedom.
Growing up in the Bay Area during the 60's and my Dad's office was next to the Black Panthers. My Dad & Mom never used a racial slur. It begins in the home!
Lucky. I heard everything you can imagine and had to come to the realization of how f--king racist we were in my teens. Now my family doesn't like to talk to me because I can't hear it anymore. I *have* to correct it because it's so ignorant, disgusting, and wrong and I realize not saying anything against it is just as bad. It is a bit healing that I have children now and I can raise them right.
@@aishas8994 thank you, but it's not really any effort on my part. It takes much more energy and work to make your kids hateful and racist, because kids don't care if someone looks different than them. They notice, just like they notice long or short hair, but they don't qualify differences. All I did was move into a diverse neighborhood and treat everyone with the respect and courtesy they deserve. That's literally all. We _will_ have conversations about systemic racism and black history when they are older, but they're 2 and 4 right now.
As a person who lives the next town over from that white lady, we don't agree her discrepancies. She can keep that bs. I hope I run into her at Walmart.
I learned more about American history during Amber Ruffin's "How did we get here" segment than 12 years of public school and 4 years of university. Sad.
I remember sitting at the dinner table, my Dad asked me "were you taught about how black families were locked out of getting housing in certain areas in the 50's, 60's, and early 70's?" I said "no, that was never taught to us." He said ""Yeah, I just learned about that from my radio show on whyy...not sure why they did not teach me or you that in school...." Prime example. He was genuinely concerned and blindsided.
Same. I stopped calling myself a "New-Dealer" after reading about '30s redlining. Republican bankers could have opposed it and been for civil rights, but they were racist, rich elite by that point.
Look up racially restrictive housing covenants when you get a chance. They were as common as, rain all over the US and in territories it controlled. Think about it whenever someone tells you that slavery ended 150 years ago, or that jim crow was a southern problem, or that only rich whites benefitted from rigging the real estate and insurance systems...
That’s funny , I don’t remember seeing Irish history or Chinese history or any other cultures history or n American history either. It’s almost like history is there to teach us the major events that got us to this point and not a reason to list every bad thing that happened.
So 250 years of slavery followed by another century of inequality and segregation for a 400 hundred year old country isn't important aren't you proud of your white history how white people built the country off the back off minorities (you admit yourself) and continue to suppress with no restitution now trying to delete your proud past
@Hank Smith - Understood. At first, I fully supported the BLM movement until I read their entire charter. Holy smoke! Now I just support the STOP KILLING US spirit of the cause. It seems whenever a brilliant, touching, powerful societal movement rises, lots of "ultra-liberals" come in and pile all their whacked ideologies into it, thus killing it.
Where do you guys go to school we learn about them all the time but also i kinda live near a reservation and they own pretty much everything that makes money in my city
"When we got here, there were natives. Things were ok for a while. They got mad when we wanted more space, so we made sure to cut them their piece." As a summary of many of my textbooks.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 im still in school and my school books say stuff about terrible stuff we did like the trail of tears and stuff natives did that were not the best or how different things would be if they did not fight each other
It's just American history and it should start with indigenous American's which are American Indian's those are the preferred names when the tribe name isn't used. That requires correcting nearly as much as history as it does adding those other contributions.
I got lucky with my 6th grade history teacher, who taught us about the Dakota-Sioux War 1863 as part of our MN history curriculum. I teach elementary kids now, and as uncomfortable as it is, I tell them why we have a statue of a buffalo outside our local library - to commemorate 38 Native men who were executed during the conflict.
We don't need to because they, being the small government party they are, to try legislate at every level and scream oppression on every network that will host them the second they get push back.
That explains why people argued so much about how black people were treated and constantly denied oppression until the death of George floyd and the surge of racist history went viral. I literally saw a shift in comments after his death went viral and all other things went viral.
I don't understand why racism and slavery is this thing that's so synonymous with america's past when it was happening almost everywhere. America wasn't even the last country to stop it.
@@K4R3N Genocidal policies towards Native Americans and mass chattel slavery of imported Africans are the starting points of most of the nation states which now exist in the Americas, the just the US. And, in most of these places, the racial hierarchy imposed during colonial times still exists in destructive and dysfunctional modern forms, which have become normalized. The anti CRT people don't want to deal with the scale or duration of this in any meaningful way and offer no counter narrative which explains history or current circumstances. They want to crow about "progress" and point fingers at China and Russia..
@Ed Lopow just give it a rest, if you don't want to be called a racist, then don't be a racist, simple. Be brave enough to accept your past and embrace your future. This is not going away, no matter what you do.
My history teacher decided to ditch the book. He did follow the curriculum but decided to teach on his method. He actively chose to include african american history in it, despite us not even being US. He found it important for us to know.
Unfortunately, there are "teachers" that throw away the book and go the _opposite_ direction. My nephew's 9th grade teacher spent the year trying to turn my baby into an ignorant racist.
@@aratosm you cannot be that dumb. First of all, Africa is not a country, and there are many different cultures that exist within that continent. Secondly, slavery has existed everywhere throughout history, but post-enlightenment it becomes especially egregious, for obvious reasons. Lastly, *slavery is not the only horrible thing America has done to black people.* The oppression and destruction of black families continued in many legislative forms, and has directly led to the segragated communities, income disparities, and systemic racism we see today. Why do racism deniers think "black people sold black people" is some kind of ace in the hole?
@@aratosm nah, but he did go over important civil rights moments in US history. Which is not part of our curriculum but he thought was important for us to know.
Trust me they will not. It is important that children learn about the full American history and it will help solve same of the problems faced by society.
My classrooms always understood the history behind slavery... they weren’t happy about it! Most of them chose to research it ....there were many things that we learned together! We always discussed some complicated issues... Thomas Jefferson and Sally Hemmings... hot topic!!
@John Clarke I'd like you to send me some quotes from the curriculum that state that. If that's a fact it would obviously not be acceptable. However, all I've seen so far is people saying that and pointing towards general teaching regarding slavery. Teaching that *some* white people fought to keep slavery doesn't mean *all* white people are racist. Is it possible your see it that way because you were taught to lump entire races together without any understanding that a portion of is not equal to all? Looking forward to your references and a positive exchange of thoughts/ideas.
@Ed Lopow No, but I can understand that he sees similarities between the white people in South (for whom his parents had to hide their interracial marriage) and the white people in the US. He has experienced racism so when he calls someone racist I believe him over the people who say that racism isn't a big deal.
Yeah. School would have you thinking these are very old problems. In reality my not very old Grammy went to segregated schools for almost her entire schooling. Schools weren't forced to START desegregation until my grandma was 13 years old.
This why I homeschooled my children in the 90s, because I saw that the puplic school curriculum left out all information about everyone except European Americans. That's racism by omission, and since I was raised during American Segregation, I had all the 1st hand information to teach my children about their enemies, and subtle mico-aggressions. And I taught them to never let anything slide, and take no prisoners, cause racism is a sin, and damaging to the soul.
@@Daniel24445 Didn't I say, that I homeschooled my children in the 90s. BLM can't teach me anything about racist Apartheid America. I was born in 1949 fool, I lived it
@@Daniel24445 Didn't I say, that I homeschooled my children in the 90s. BLM can't teach me anything about racist Apartheid America. I was born in 1949 I lived it
@@WapajeaWalksOnWaterRespect of persons and favoritism is a Sin and so is biting the hand that feeds you. European Communists and atheists is NOT America!
My high school had diversity day and it was awesome. I loved learning about different cultures and different people's life experiences. It was kind of sad though that a bunch of parents complained about it and tried to have it removed from the curriculum.
Isn't also sad you had Diversity DAY? Why is it only a day? Why do we have Black History month when it's American history, and why is it the only month with 28 days?
@@jasonsabbath6996 I personally don't see the point of black history month, I believe that schools should just teach black history along with white history because ultimately history is history! Why limit it to a month? Why even have a month? It should be tought yearly At least that's the way that our homschool group worked
Possibly the best segment of Trevor's Daily Show I've ever seen. Peak-thoughtful, maximum clarity. Should be required viewing in every 9th grade history class.
The US is a white country and only 1/8 of the country is black. So why tf should we care about their history, it’s unimportant and all you woke people are dumb af for wanting to teach about it
I am out of words. She thinks teaching history in school will teach kids to “judge one another not based on the content of their character, but solely on the color of their skin.”
She might not be objecting to any specific historical subject. “Critical Race Theory” was mentioned, and that is a much bigger topic. When that stuff gets packaged up and shipped out by HR departments and school boards it *can* take on a very racial essentialist tone. Thinking people are all just objecting to teaching about redlining and such is to totally misunderstand the situation.
Yeah but not kids though! First teach them how to love America and the revolutionary war and then teach them about slavery and colonization in their preteen age!!
I go to a great private high school and in english class we research a new term together such as red-lining, colorism, privilege, micro aggressions, cultural appropriation, color-blind racial perspective, code switching, and AAVE just to name a few. I am so grateful to be able to learn about these topics!
That's great and all, but they should teach you what privatizing school does to children! Terms like oppression, disenfranchise, monopoly, capitalism! Human right's, such as every child getting that grade A education, no matter your economic background! 💚🌷
@@stevenbutler5580 That's what a democracy does! America is a PLUTOCRACY run by capitalism and monopolized everything! Housing, education, healthcare! Everything! There shouldn't be any other way! 🌷💚 Have a great night!
@damasviews I know what's worse socialism. My wife is from Venezuela recently I promise you and millions of others can't handle that living condition. Take the D rated capitalism with a smile
I’m 54 yrs old and I thought I was adequately educated. The last 5 yrs of our history have proven me wrong. I’ve learned more about black history and systemic racism than I even knew existed and it has changed me, for the better I hope. So why is it so surprising that those in my age group and younger adults are protesting about things they were never taught and still don’t understand. They revel in their ignorance instead of embracing the opportunity to learn what they were never taught. And now they want to pass that ignorance on to their children.
I'm going to school to be a teacher, and one thing I am noticing is a failure to properly communicate school policies and curriculums with parents so that they actually understand.
@@jasonfuentz7681 what he means is that it's inherent in the structure of things; it's something that always will fundamentally happen due to the parameters. It's a bit crass, but it's still spot on in terms of reality if you understand the meaning.
Fact is is that if you're noticing it you can change it, especially if you're within the system. It's not that difficult to say what's what to anyone who is smart enough to get it
The US is a white country and only 1/8 of the country is black. So why tf should we care about their history, it’s unimportant and all you woke people are dumb af for wanting to teach about it
@@doryexplore5481 The US is not and has never been a white country, either you learn the full history of our nation and it PEOPLES or remain silent In your ignorance.
Thank you for pointing out Germany, Trevor! I’ve compared these 2 scenarios before, asking why Germans are able to accept that part of their history but Americans cannot. I’m glad my thought process is correct. ☺️
It prevents us Germans to get overly proud of our nation (again), which is not the same as to hate one's own country. But I reckon these differences are too subtle for Americans …
Within many American families, any attempt to rationally discuss the very real topic of racism and how bad it was between the "first class citizens" and everyone else.. It always gets shut down by all the weird, biased, patriotic stuff like, "If you don't like it, you can leave it." It's cringe af being a native myself, them not taking in regard the deforestation, introduction of invasive foreign plant and animal species, and the attempt to wipe several native tribes' records out of memory. If it bothers them to have to hear it again and again, I would understand that but I seriously doubt it's why they get so defensive about hearing about it.
It took almost half a century, massive student protests, occupation, tireless campaigning by victims, the evil eye from the entire rest of the world, and, finally, some actual will to get there. Just look at the "other" WW2 power - Japan. And how they teach about their crimes. It'll make those US curriculums look sane.
@@TormentorRain CRT brings up American history and its effects in the present. I rephrase my question and ask what do u think it is? It isn't an attack on individual whites or whites as a collective. It simply shows that those in power, who happen to be predominantly white, are part of the reason systems are in place that hinder non whites in America.
@@anthonyharris483 Those who desire to grow have. The rest will have to catch up at some point. We need to keep moving forward. There's a reason the windshield is bigger than the rearview mirror.
December 7, 1941: "A day that will live in infamy." September 11, 2001: "Never forget." America LOVES to "remember" the times she was "wronged," but not the times she "wronged" her own. Hmm...
I bet that’s how the Koreans felt when Russia and America split their country in half. When America topped the Haitian government and put Papa and Baby Doc in power They set up a corrupt dictator in Iran, I could go on but I won’t
Did you go to an American school? If you think American schools don't teach this stuff then you simply haven't been in an American school. It's all they teach in history
I'm currently teaching BLACK HISTORY to my German students. Just found this video and will immediately use it in class today. Looking forward to the discussion. Thanks so much Trevor!
You're looking to teach your students, some of which I assume are white, that they are inherently racist? Hope they fire you and bar you from teaching ever again.
I became a history teacher because I saw the ways I wanted to change my own history education. The only thing is, now that I am on the other side, we need to do some major reform in education in order to make it possible for teachers to teach more history. As it stands, class periods and curriculum is so limited that, even if a teacher worked hard to introduce supplementary materials to fill in gaps, things will still have to be cut for times sake. Like most US history classes can't make it past the 70s. Teachers want to teach more history, but it feels like a constant race against the clock to cover the basics. BTW, I absolutely want history education to be more holistic and include the uncomfortable moments when America was decidedly not great. I think those moments teach more lessons than any victory lap could.
@X X agree to an extent as well. In some ways "history" should maybe be viewed more as a skill and an exercise in research and critical thinking but I'm not sure how educators would approach that with younger students.
@X X what shouldn't be in k-12? Critical thinking? That's a terrifying thought. Not all students can go to university and critical thinking is a fundamental skill of the highest importance. BTW critical thinking is asking questions and having students evaluate the information on their own to come up with answers. It's not inherently biased. Add criculum that encourages students to recognize bias in themselves and in their sources.
@X X did you ever do the Oregon Trail interactive activity? Congratulations, that's critical thinking but for elementary and middle school students. Writing journal entry's "as if you are a ___" is critical thinking. Then expanding the perspectives they learn about helps them understand more of history. Some things should be left to high school when brains are more developed but elementary students can still be deep thinkers who learn multiple perspectives.
@X X critical thinking IS NOT critical race theory. I'm pretty sure I never even mentioned CRT in my comments. And trust me, CRT isn't being taught in primary school AT ALL! this isn't even an issue, it's just a made up moral panic. CRT is an upper level graduate theory taught in law school. What I'm talking about is just plain and simple critical thinking. The basics can be taught in elementary school but by high school, students need to be engaging with history in a more meaningful way that isn't memorizing dates and biographies of famous people. Memorization isn't a skill that will help them be a more informed citizen or a more rounded person.
@X X climate change and the holocaust should 100% be taught in schools. They happened/are happening and students MUST know about them to be able to make important decisions about their personal future and the future of their country and world. Any objection to those topics being taught is either very aware of their ill intentions or is woefully misinformed themselves.
I had to learn about my history of Apache tribes being in Alabama from my father. I even argued with him and told him he was wrong but he said one thing, “We were there!” When I started dating a Native, I asked about it and he was sure my father was right until he found a video on Geronimo and his life in Alabama. After that, without being able to question my dad because he had passed away, I went to the American Indian Museum in NYC and the person the handle the research center was like , “Wow, I’ve heard.” But didn’t have answers for me. Eventually I found information on the subject that many shows on Native history glossed over. What i discovered was my father was right, as Apache’s taken as POW in this country were moved from the southwest to the south east to I’ve in Florida and from Florida to Alabama where they housed on a military fort for a decade before being sent to Oklahoma where Geronimo would later die. Yeah, we need to tell real history, not the lie so some people can feel better about their own existence.
If “anti-racists” are so unconcerned with race, how come they only have a problem with White schools, White workplaces, White towns, White Cites and White countries? I’ve never seen any “anti-racist” complain that any place is too Brown and it has to become LESS Brown to combat racism. Who do they think they are kidding? Anti-racist is a code word for anti-White.
@@jusme2106 : When you do research on who owns the companies who write history books, you might just discover motives for why they whitewash history. That reasoning has also been a part of higher education as well, and ultimately into every strata of society. It then becomes the foundation for white entitlement. White entitlement is a hangover not only from slavery, but from the ideology of Cecil Rhodes' that the English were the master race The belief that the English were the 'master race became one of the justifications for stealing/swindling the Americas from the indigenous peoples and justification for brutal slavery That 'master race' ideology morphed into white supremacy and continues to be, with subtlety, perpetuated through the educational, banking, media, political, police, and other systems in place in the US. I will admit that racism had moved from being overt and in-your-face, to a much more subtle form. We truly began to progress toward equality in our nation, but the pandemic pushed the button and now we see there is still an issue of racism in this nation. As POC, we already knew racism was still around. If anyone doubted before 2020, it is clear as crystal we are still a long way from being 'bigot free.' We can try to hide it by not incorporating that history in our school systems, like we tried to truly hide it from international politics. Now the truth of is out there, and don't think other countries aren't saying "who are they to tell us how we should treat our people? They need to do something in their own home first". Coming face to face with our very dark and shameful history is challenging, but like Germany we need to begin dealing with it without those "white woman tears", so that the future of this nation will become morally, spiritually and psychologically healthier. If we don't truly face it, we will continue to repeat it to our doom. Our children are not born racist, they learn at home. We need to teach children so that they do not carry that racist mess to the next generation.
All it takes is once for those types. They then flood comment sections to complain about 'wokeness' and PC culture as if everything that has happened in this country isn't the root cause of it.
@@thrawl What a weird question. There are plenty of detailed records that paint a clear image of what exactly went on. From census records & newspapers to individual journals and financial records. The only group of people here that are trying to tell a false narrative are the ones who contributed/committed the atrocities.
@@lindauerlauren8041 there are plenty that show both sides though, how do you know which side is right? You have to remember, things were always very politically motivated, that isn't something unique for today... Also, why don't they show these things as proof instead of just saying it was this or it was that
I wonder how many kids today know who George Washington Carver, Madam C.J. Walker, Lonnie G. Johnson, Garrett Morgan, Patricia Bath, or Percy Julian are, or what they contributed to humanity?
I was lucky that in high school African American studies were offered. I learned so much and then went on to become a Librarian helping thousands of kids over my 37 year career with their Black History projects. Broward County Florida was the most Democratic county in the state of Florida, culture shock moving just 2 1/2 hrs north
Exactly! Better yet, I wonder how many *adults* today know about them! If you asked those names to a child, and then asked those names to a senior citizen (both white), the saddest truth is that I would be more surprised if the *senior citizen* could name them all! My point being, teaching the truth about America's history has clearly *always* been inadequate (hence why we got Trump)! This isn't a new problem at all. It's always been there, and we're *finally* noticing it! But yes, that definitely does not mean we should find it *any less* horrifying if kids today end up learning the same inaccuracies that we, our parents, and our grandparents did!
George Washington Carver: an American agricultural scientist and inventor who promoted alternative crops to cotton and methods to prevent soil depletion. Madam C.J. Walker: an entrepreneur, philanthropist, and political and social activist. She is recorded as the first female self-made millionaire in America in the Guinness Book of World Records. Lonnie G. Johnson: an inventor, aerospace engineer, and entrepreneur, whose work includes a U.S. Air Force-term of service and a twelve-year stint at NASA, where he worked at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory. Garrett Morgan: an inventor, businessman, and community leader. His most notable inventions were a three-position traffic signal and a smoke hood notably used in a 1916 tunnel construction disaster rescue. Patricia Bath: an American ophthalmologist, inventor, humanitarian, and academic. She was the inventor of laser cataract surgery. Percy Julian: an American research chemist and a pioneer in the chemical synthesis of medicinal drugs from plants.
@@jeffchan67 no offense but, there are museums in just about every country. In said museums, they may teach about military history - (WWI, WWII, Spanish American War and the acquisition of Puerto Rico, Philippines, etc.) military history, imperialism, "HAFU" and African and European diaspora dynamics in Asia, art history, trade and economics, U.S. Embassies and consulate operations as it relates to "American interests", differences in American policing/healthcare/justice/education, etc.
@@davidoliver9805 dude our local muesuem glorifies the gold rush glossing over and whitewashing the asian abuse or native abuse completly. the only mueseum that even mentions it is a single still standing chinese laundry cottage in sutter creek . its BS, in the exstreme.
I just came here from Freedomtoons. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qpVCahY2yTQ.html Whenever this guy opens his mouth he's either being overtly racist or lying.
If racism was framed as a societal mental health issue (which it is imo), then lying about racist history and denying current systemic racism is the equivalent of telling depressed people "you are totally fine", "everything is okay", "stop being so sensitive" 🤔 This not only makes the problem much worse, but it removes the capacity at which an individual could be healed . . .
Mental health issue is right! I’m convinced that the concept of race was created by and continues to be perpetrated by a set of undiagnosed Egomaniacs at a minimum
Yes. Race is a social construct and it is a horrible one. there is much scientific evidence to rule it out, but governments are holding onto their own race categories. I only recently learned different governments have different categorizations of race. it's totally nuts! I've been priveleged to be raised in America without my much of my culture. While culture is interesting in some aspects, it is ridiculous in others, don't get me wrong the food is great, but old world traditions and mindsets that don't adapt to society as it changes, to me, is the SOURCE of the problem 🤔
As a black girl who went to predominantly white schools I will say it was so hard for me to hear about the treatment of my ancestors and people who look like me. I’m thankful the schools I went to did an adequate job but of course I learned more deeply, as I grew older, from family and from my own studies. I didn’t grow up thinking white people were inherently racist. We got to give teachers and students a bit more credit than that. And as hard as it may be for white children to hear imagine what it’s like for the black children. There’s a real sorrow and sadness just thinking about it. I remember being acutely aware that I wouldn’t be able to attend the very school I went to if I had been born many years earlier. I’m not sure it’s easy for anyone but it’s definitely necessary. We canNOT go back… we have to keep trying to improve this nation.
Nobody is against teaching history, what we're against is teaching white kids that they're oppressors and teaching black kids that they're helpless victims
We learned about it here in Sweden too. My question is, did they teach you that this was committed by DEMOCRATS? - Or that the KKK was founded by Democrats? - Or that all KKK leaders were Democrat Senators? - Or that every Democrat presidential candidate until the 90's was an outspoken segregationist? - Or that ALL Democrats voted AGAINST black citizenship and voting rights, while all Republicans voted for it? - Or that it was the Democrats that implemented (and practiced) Jim Crow laws? Because we learned those facts in school here as well. (I can make the list a LOT longer, but you get my point).
Yeah a lot of schools focus on the issue of state rights and economics. The problem with that thinking is it is the State's Rights of Slavery and the Economy of Slavery. But I am pretty sure some states still fire people for teaching evolution, so I don't have a lot of faith these days.
@@sicfxmusic Staysic: for unknown reasons my delete and/or edit function does not work here, otherwise I would not have bothered you. A a "fanatic" fan of polit satire, I enjoy Trevor a lot - though he is not about my country and our politics. Apart from their racist tendencies or phobias, I believe that people without a sense of humor should stay away from things they don't understand, and rather stay with Fox news 😃
And that is why in 2021 WS are still repeating their history. Acts 7:51 "You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
It's funny how other countries teach more on American history than America. I try to educate myself on different topics of American history even though it's truly sad but that's because history overall is my favorite subject and I yearn to know more especially the Truth.
History is written by the victor not the victims. If you want truth about a country's history never get it from the country you are trying to learn about.
Exactly. I'm in school right now, and while I was in social studies class the teacher even said that history is whitewashed and what they have us learning isn't completely true, and he's white himself!
Hey !!! I remember that sound, it’s the same sound of that white lady walking her dog in New York saying she as being attacked in the Ramble by a birdwatcher who happened to be african American... you know the Karen who made up everything and that was recorded by the birdwatcher due to safety concerns... it’s the same behavior.. and she also claimed that she wasn’t a rac$$t...
Not really. I am German and heard from the genozide Germany was responsible for in Namibia when I was 37 for the very first time. Wasn't part of the curriculum, wasn't really discussed anywhere. Came as a shock... I think society has to dig deep and look at things that went wrong to learn from it. Part of the curriculum in German schools however was slavery and its relevance in the American Civil War. We learned that in grade 8. Comes as a shock that not all Americans know about this...
I'm German too and the history classes were painfully honest when it comes to WW2 and the Holocaust. everything else, especially colonization was less accurate imo.
@@dreahah Yeah the worst part about that is, the southern population of America is taught differently. Some professors swear up & down that the Civil War was fought solely because of state rights. They also teach that it had nothing to do with Civil War either. Which to me makes sense because they're groups of people who celebrate Robert E. Lee's & Jefferson Davis' birthdays.
@@dreahah I wasn't thought this too and I don't want to downplay what happened there but I don't think you can cover everything that happened in school. But at least we get taught a lot more than Americans and we know that unforgivable bad things happened that we don't want to ever happen again... The point is we know about our past from a very objective pov and Americans don't.
@@dreahah Oh that explains the rise in far right white supremacists in your country. Guess I stand corrected. Altough .. are you "really" from Germany.
@Junie Jake I dunno, I can remember saying stuff like this when I was a kid, that I learned more from TV than school. I realize we often experience the same events differently, but school is a two way street, what you put in has an impact on what you get out of it. I didn't really understand that when I was young. That said, and maybe it's because I grew up in California, but 30 years ago I remember learning about slavery, Native Americans, racism, etc. I remember learning about the root of the civil war. Maybe in other states this stuff is glossed over, I dunno. Either way, it can't hurt to spend more time on the topic, there were months of my life spent on the American revolution, honestly too much time since most of that seems like ego stroking.
Thomas Jefferson's black companion "Sally" was his dead wife's half sister. Thomas Jefferson had 10 children with his black companion, Sally, 6 of their children lived to be adults and were only 1/4 black and were legally considered slaves until Thomas Jefferson died, then he gave his children their freedom in his will. Do they teach this in public school?
I didn’t learn about it until I was in my twenties and decided to start learning all things I missed out on in school. Turns out it was a lot, because I’m still trying to bridge the gap ten-plus years later. But thankfully, I like learning, so I’m fine with this never ending task.
I am a middle school ENGLISH teacher who is teaching the Civil Rights Movement, not as a supplement, but as my students’ first real experience with anything more than a video on Martin Luther King Jr. I haven’t made it through the video, but so far I’m really considering showing this to my students!
It's probably a more effective way, since teachers are hampered by fairly large amount of information to fit in a limited amount of class hours. Give them a sample of these things you won't have time to teach, and let them know it is important to learn, but you aren't allowed to cover everything. They have to learn some things themselves.
Meanwhile my german school: "Every student in this class has to do a 10 minute presentation about a president of the United States of America." No seriously, our history teacher gave us the task to do a 10 minute presentation about an American president and I chose Abraham Lincoln 🙃
Abraham Lincoln was no saint. Read the Real Lincoln. He never cared about the slaves. The civil war wasn't about slavery it was about tariffs. The south refuse to pay their taxes they seceded from the union.
Bad choice if you knew the truth about the Tyrant! It was Karl Marx who instructed Lincoln to make the war about slavery half way through the war. Karl Marx instructed Lincoln in letters and Frederick Engels instructed Gen. Grant.
And how do you know what ACTUALLY happened? How do you know which version of history is the correct one? How do you know which version is the actual truth? You're just blindly choosing to believe one version over the other.
After watching the first 10 min of Watchmen, I walked into my roommates room and asked her if the Tulsa massacre was real. She hadn't heard about it either. We weren't the only ones. I didn't know about Juneteenth until President Cheesepuff. Why am I just hearing about this at 37?!
I don't know, because they can be found in hundreds if not thousands of books. The fact that millions of Americans only found out about Tulsa from a fictional TV show should tell us something about American literacy and personal reading habits -- and not just our schools -- shouldn't it? (Sound off, comments folks: How many books have you read on your own in the past year?)
@@coolidgedollar2154 how do you go looking for something you don't know happens in the first place? How do you know what you don't know? The point I was trying to make was that its not common curriculum to begin with. At my high school, American History X was the entire lesson on post civil war racism in America. Literally. My opinions have changed drastically in the last 4 years. Not every white person is a racist any more than all black people are criminals. Some people simply don't know.
@@Kjt9653 I understand your point. But to answer your question: You just look. The point of discovery is to simply cast your net as far as you can, and hope to find things you (or others) didn't know before. I don't blame you for the "Watchmen" Tulsa thing either; I realized it long ago, and it's our fault as a society. But it's still a problem that we can't stick onto our schools alone. School was never meant to teach you everything. Education is a lifelong process, and to be honest it requires books before T.V. shows.
I went to a small public school where the teachers often used outside sources instead of the textbook... it wasn’t perfect and still focused on western history but I’m so happy that I had at least educated and honest ppl to teach me
I am so thankful for shows and hosts like this. We are all one people on one planet wanting and needing the same things. Spread love, not fear and hate.
So none of the quips, put downs, stereotypes he used when referencing any White people in his montage wasn’t hateful or racist? I’d love to spread love to all humans. Not just everyone “but white people”.
And how do you know which version of "what actually happened" actually happened? How do you know which version of history is the right one? How do you know which one is the actual truth? You're just blindly choosing to believe one version over another
Do y’all remember, decades ago, the phrase,: “The Dumbing-Down-of-America,” which was in reference to our Public-Ed system? There was actually a mind-boggling book written about it of that same name Well, it’s secretly still going on stronger than ever today, & I have “empirical” proof of it!
I'm not sure exactly what he means by "your" history, but though I think he's right, personally I don't struggle with that. I appreciate knowing about the flaws in my heroes; it helps me see them as human, and what made them great as attainable to us today. We could not properly appreciate certain American Founders, for example, if we didn't know they owned slaves. (That's one reason why Frederick Douglass both criticized and admired them simultaneously.) ...The problem is the pendulum swinging too far the other way, from seeing such figures as absolute gods to seeing them as absolute demons instead. The truth is somewhere in the middle -- but CRT and 1619 either don't offer it, or don't advertise their intentions very well. So I'm not surprised that some people are suspicious of them. Potential widespread laws should be subject to a little more scrutiny -- but Mr. Noah doesn't seem to think so.
@Xinny The Flu We can tell you don’t care about being racist by your Name and Avatar. I’m sure the whole truth about this country AND yourself is something you avoid at all costs.
Try to post some facts about blacks and crime and they'll censor you lol but these same people want to lecture everyone else about supposed "true" history.
I took a college class a couple years ago called “access and equity in education,” which centered around critical race theory and its sub-theories (dis-crit, fem-crit, lat-crit, native-crit, etc) and it was the best class I’ve ever taken. I wish everyone had to take it in high school instead of just education majors in my particular college. My mom and I got in a huge fight about it because she was convinced it was part of the liberal agenda of brainwashing college students. 🙄 many white people are so afraid of losing their power that they will never stop refusing to see the truth, no matter how compelling the evidence.
Either losing power or the perception that they will suddenly have less than others just for being white. Odd how scary racism is until they start thinking about how it could affect them 🤔 And I think that this is the narrative Fox is desperately hanging on to and regurgitating to viewers.
Your moms worries aren't entirely unfounded. Unis no longer seem interested in debate of current hot topics. Glad you liked the class, but was there anyone there asking critical questions or was it an echo chamber?
@@Marco48375 we discussed current events every day in that class, and were encouraged to ask questions and speak up if something didn’t make sense or seemed wrong...what happened was, essentially, all our preconceived notions and inherent biases were challenged, and our understandings of history and culture in this country were updated. By facts. By having to read 1-3 lengthy peer reviewed studies every week written by scholars of color or from other oppressed groups who had direct experience and expertise in the field. Our uneducated assumptions we had gleaned from our upbringings were replaced with educated opinions based on the work of professionals. And as a recent student, I can say with confidence that’s what happened in the majority of my classes. People fear what they don’t know, or what challenges what they thought they knew, and so instinctually find excuses to justify keeping staying in their own echo chambers. The fact of the matter is, higher education exposes students to a wide variety of perspectives from people who know much more than they do, and are taught to critically think about those perspectives...they are forced to realize they are wrong about some things, and that they don’t know everything. They come out with a greater appreciation for diversity, a greater empathy for people different than them, and typically, more knowledge. The fact that they also tend to be more liberal says more about the ignorance of conservatism than about the “agenda” of higher education.
@@clararose1795 reason I was asking is that conservative voices like Jordan Peterson get put in a corner very quickly, while voices like his would make for a more well-rounded opinion. Agree of disagree with those voices, at least you've heard their argument and facts. Reading solely from 'oppressed' groups seems one-sided. The selection of what sources are part of the curriculum seems biased in itself. I fear we're raising a generation that segregates more than ever, weighing the value of someone's achievements (or lack thereof) solely on color and gender. Most problems are social-economic, the class based economy. If you're born poor, you're likely to remain poor. Breaking that cycle is what people should talk about. But instead we play identity politics.
I'm 37. I've got a 16yr old kid. She's learning the same stuff I did. I also have a 12 yr old. She is learning a perspective that is anti-American. It is divisive and dangerous. Ideals are peaceful, history is violent. The teaching of highly influential youth that they are merely a by-product of the color of their skin is not only wrong, it is counter productive to all the morals and dreams of the Civil rights movement. It removes any hope that one can determine their own future and places all accountability for personal failure out of reach and into the hands of someone else. Why try? What is the point? Because I am black I cannot make it in this country. It is built to keep me from reaching to a "more perfect" existence. Critical race theory is not only a lie, it is a poison to the futures of all of our children, and a complete dismantling of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
I'm from the Netherlands and I wish I had learned more about my countries actions in places like south Africa and Indonesia and many other places. Unfortunately we don't learn enough about that either. I think it's important to know also about the bad things out forefathers did even if it is embarassing or makes you feel guilty. We would understand the world much better if we were honest about our history and we may be much more willing to take some responsibility in helping other countries if we would understand they are in the state they are because of our forefathers.
Hi! Indonesian here, I also wanted to learn history from the perspectives of both our past colonizers particularly the Dutch & Japanese. Must be interesting. 👍
@CRT is anti White hatred Smash cultural marxism The BS you are sharing here is the exact reason why people should learn more about history. Europeans colonised other regions with violence and manipulations for 5 centuries. European migration trend has been ongoing for centuries ...and guess what. The biggest massacres were of Jews and gypsies, not the other way around.
I am german and I can tell you, when the part in the curriculum starts where we talk about WW2, nobody really wants to talk a lot about it, but we know that we need to talk about it and understand how such terrible things could come into motion, so that we will never again follow a path like that and so we know that we need to critically think about who we want to give power to
Were you taught that this is one awful example of how humans throughout the history of the world treat each other when we fall into the ideals of fear and dehumanizing others? Because that really is the lesson in my book.
@UCfpx5NpIuJLmLOWfErp_c-A Please provide the evidence to support this. This is the problem, people are just talking with assumptions. CRT is not one thing or one ideology. Just the basic truth by many people with diddrent ideas about how to talk about the truth of history and race. This CRT isn't really an "IT" at all. The attack is on talking about race in historical studies in general. The problem is they can't be separated. I can't stand the term CRT to be honest... because now talking aboutaout true history is under attack by attacking the "evil CRT." Race issues can be taught many ways... We can start by letting kids know that the history of the world didn't start with the founding of the US nor did the history of discrimination or division based upon race or ethnicity.... It is what humans have done for thousands of years...All races.. We in our modern times have gone through it and is going through it BUT we have made the greatest progress maybe in the history of the world. The real issue is we are really the first great world Empire that is documented discrimination and racism to the extent we are.. We all need to be honest and authentic... Not just throw assumptions around.
My mother grew up in a Maryland suburb in one of the early neighborhoods to stop redlining. She’s gotten in fights with other white people about systemic racism because she says she literally grew up going to convenience stores in her neighborhood and the black kids would get followed around the stores but the white kids wouldn’t. That’s why she’s such a big advocate for teaching about it in schools. Love that woman ❤️
A hero. Have you read a book named “Lies My Teacher Told Me” ? I am sure your mother could be exhausted from fighting ignorance and prejudice. You should both read that book and make it a daughter - mother project. It will elicit many great conversations. However it seems that you both have a stronger bond don even she leads by example. ❤️
It still happens today.. It has happened to me many times every since I was a teenager, I now 50. I use to go off on them because it’s very annoying and racists every time you look up they right there or trying to talk to you, which they just want to help you find what your looking for and get out the store. Especially in malls and shopping centers.
Thank you, I’m so glad a South African immigrant can educate me on my own country’s history. If it wasn’t for him and other non American people I wouldn’t know anything about racism or the wrongs of my American ancestors. :)
This is an excellent piece, and I'm glad to say that I am a white Caucasian who is smart enough to know what it means to be inherently racist, and I'm also first to admit that I always thought of that in terms of myself no matter how much I hated the fact. But it's true, and the only thing that I can do is get more properly educated on the subject. I don't think decent people are trying to be racist. I think that it's literally a part of societal conditioning. We, as white people, can either grow up and beyond the spectrum we've been subliminally taught... or stay ignorant.
In what ways are you inherently racist for being white? So racism isn't something you do on purpose or are actively prejudiced towards people you just are for being white. Interersting.
@@tnicholson1981 Everybody is inherently racist. It has nothing to do with skin, but with being a human being. The important thing is, to recognise that and not to act on it.
@@annaturba inherently biased against difference. In-group vs out-group But not necessarily racism/bigotry. That is a cultural exploitation of this cognitive bias. We naturally discriminate between people who wear similar or different clothes than what we are used to seeing. But that doesn't mean we are racist against fashion. First one must be taught the difference we see is something to hate or control. That comes from culture after we are born, and is different in every society.
