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The Weirdest Censorship In League of Legends 

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League of Legends is one of the most popular games in the world. With that it is played by many different audiences in many different regions. And sometimes when a popular form of media gets shared internationally, it may have to go through some changes to be accepted in different countries. Today we take a look at some of the interesting censored content in League of Legends.
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@NicolaiLol
@NicolaiLol 2 года назад
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@snipee9655
@snipee9655 2 года назад
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@El-Mobtade2
@El-Mobtade2 2 года назад
Hey
@veganrunner4172
@veganrunner4172 2 года назад
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@Lord_Slifer
@Lord_Slifer 2 года назад
In the end, no matter the reason, censorship is dumb.
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@brandendunagan8822 2 года назад
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@prismaticc_abyss
@prismaticc_abyss 2 года назад
Shaco being a Clown deeply offends the entirety of the twitter community because they feel like their Clown identity is being stolen
@TinchoX
@TinchoX 2 года назад
Fun fact, he's a Jester, not a clown.
@prismaticc_abyss
@prismaticc_abyss 2 года назад
@@TinchoX i know but i needed my joke to work
@omgmico
@omgmico 2 года назад
@@TinchoX That wasn't very fun
@berzamindeguzman2453
@berzamindeguzman2453 2 года назад
@@prismaticc_abyss "can you introduce me as a clown"
@peachesssyasuo3454
@peachesssyasuo3454 2 года назад
@@TinchoX Dont care he seems clown enough
@Valigarmanda
@Valigarmanda 2 года назад
"The Old Gods skin deeply offends the spirits I worship." - Shaman from the woods
@etherealcat6521
@etherealcat6521 2 года назад
And you gotta change that, now. Fak'heem Orai Pwnduu inze ays.
@axelamid364
@axelamid364 2 года назад
i m crying =)))))))))))))
@DashMatin
@DashMatin 2 года назад
XD
@Bakuganmaster51
@Bakuganmaster51 2 года назад
Me using police volibear: Hehe, it go weewoo C9: RACISM
@kop7125
@kop7125 2 года назад
Oh no its the KS Police! Flash!
@SeaSaltK
@SeaSaltK 2 года назад
And there are Ekko, Lucian and Senna in enemy team..
@shamarrstewart5774
@shamarrstewart5774 2 года назад
As a black male I am deeply offended at the fact that C9 feels offended on my own behalf when I'm not even offended by it, since it is literally one of the best volibearskins in existence.... To this day, I still run people under their tower to press R and type in all chat "STOP RESISTING!!!!" as I merc them.
@insectdroid1676
@insectdroid1676 2 года назад
@@shamarrstewart5774 comedy gold.
@huskyzz0744
@huskyzz0744 2 года назад
@@shamarrstewart5774 Chad black male
@Agaricore
@Agaricore 2 года назад
"The Crime City skinline deeply offends me and the crimes I've committed" - a criminal from a city
@MikoYae
@MikoYae 2 года назад
"I would have been okay with it if I didn't commit the crime in a city, but it's a shame that I did"
@LaatiMafia
@LaatiMafia 2 года назад
As a mafioso, I find the renaming of the Mafia skins highly offensive.
@manupaz
@manupaz 2 года назад
Yes agreed Porcoddue
@pebblebrowser
@pebblebrowser 2 года назад
Uh Oh
@jorgecaballero1013
@jorgecaballero1013 2 года назад
honestly tho, they could have easily have said "We think Crime City sounds cooler" and I'm sure many people would have agreed
@wakkaseta8351
@wakkaseta8351 2 года назад
@@jorgecaballero1013 It really doesn't though. It sounds like something you'd see in a kid's book.
@thedeadliest4380
@thedeadliest4380 2 года назад
Crime city sounds fucking dumb lmfao
@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587
@anotherpersonfromnorfolk1587 2 года назад
"And I don't think Jinx was revealing too much to begin with" Damn, he murdered her
@kumoko3728
@kumoko3728 2 года назад
cant reveal anything when you have nothing to reveal to begin with
@flemethwow9273
@flemethwow9273 2 года назад
@@kumoko3728 true
@victorlincurve675
@victorlincurve675 2 года назад
@@kumoko3728 Flat is justice
@lordvader4535
@lordvader4535 2 года назад
@@kumoko3728 true
@Bee-ts3mk
@Bee-ts3mk 2 года назад
@@kumoko3728 FLAT IS JUSTICE
@unclericco8600
@unclericco8600 2 года назад
I'm a little upset you never mentioned Graves cigar that's a classic
@trahman1010
@trahman1010 2 года назад
Yeah ikr lolol
@MomsDrunkAgain...
@MomsDrunkAgain... 2 года назад
I can understand why they did that one and agree on it even though at the same time I'd love to have it back.
@RAH-101
@RAH-101 2 года назад
@@MomsDrunkAgain... killing : ok smoking : NOT OK
@WindiChilliwack
@WindiChilliwack 2 года назад
What about that Draven was going to make out with a woman but it's his axe? xD
@renan9267
@renan9267 2 года назад
@@WindiChilliwack yeah lol, they changed the woman for a trophy. Should we call them machists?
@wutelgiwithagun8832
@wutelgiwithagun8832 2 года назад
“When it comes to actual international politics, a company just needs to follow the rules” Fruit companies: *distant laughter*
@MegaHellrasier
@MegaHellrasier 2 года назад
Probably the only intelligent comment here.... if only people knew how Shady that shit was
@ichimaru96
@ichimaru96 2 года назад
Smedley butler : *distant anger*
@bertilolsson8902
@bertilolsson8902 2 года назад
I love the police volibear skin pressing q and running down someone with sirens is great😃
@daygoon4790
@daygoon4790 2 года назад
rACiSt
@jacopodam184
@jacopodam184 2 года назад
Lucian doesn't think the same
@arkantalebi5519
@arkantalebi5519 2 года назад
@@jacopodam184 senna was crying after voli used Q and ran lucian down XD
@ConfettiBerg
@ConfettiBerg 2 года назад
Like, it's literally one of his best skins.... Voli doesn't have that many skins.... A lot of these are just typical, modern generation people getting easily offended by every fuckin thing in existence and thanks to Twitter, people bitch about every little thing that annoys them. My god people weren't this uptight back in 2010...
@vugi7528
@vugi7528 2 года назад
True especially that stach he gets
@Ble4ker_Official
@Ble4ker_Official 2 года назад
Fun fact: In the Italian language, LoL censors the word God. Since there are some heavy swear and curse words involving god, which would be considered "unholy" normally, LoL just censors God and let's you understand which kind of "heavy swear" the other guy said in chat.
@Ceracio
@Ceracio 2 года назад
This reminds me of the English version of an online card game called Shadowverse. The whole thing is infested with various mythological references, from Pazuzu to judeo-christian archangels to Greek mythology to Quetzalcoatl. Anyway, in the Japanese/Korean/other European languages, there's a card quite explicitely called "Satan". In the English version, though, they went with the more euphemistic "Prince of Darkness". I think there's something similar with a card called "Heavenly Aegis" in English, which, iirc, is "God's Shield" or something to that effect in other languages. The weird thing is, they're fine with Zeus, including his summoning phrase "I am the Father, the God of All", so they aren't actually consoring the term "God" itself.
@ElvenBubblegum
@ElvenBubblegum 2 года назад
DIO!!!!!
@BlahoMark15
@BlahoMark15 2 года назад
How does Voli's "A God cannot die" respawn line goes, then? Like is it even there in the game or is it changed?
@Finless_
@Finless_ 2 года назад
@@BlahoMark15 actually the word god is censured but not in every situation, like in Garen god-king when he ult he says ''IM GOD'' (in italian ofc)
@dude8351
@dude8351 2 года назад
@@BlahoMark15 It's not in the voiceover, just the chat. That's because italian swears are really... creative. Usually you take a holy figure like God and associate that with various farm animals or other unpleasant things
@MagalliLordofCinder
@MagalliLordofCinder 2 года назад
7:30 never saw someone complaining about the term "Mafia"
@miserepoignee9594
@miserepoignee9594 2 года назад
There was a kpop song that came out recently called Mafia in the Morning. They got so much hate from the international community for glorifying the mafia that they had to release a statement clarifying that they were referring to the card game (which is obvious to anyone who's ever played the card game and looked at the lyrics).
@solitwar
@solitwar 2 года назад
@@miserepoignee9594 by international community you refer to the few weirdos on twitter right? i wonder what they would do when they watch all the movies and series from mexico about cartels and even some songs too
@FlorelaFTW
@FlorelaFTW 2 года назад
Nobody is complaining about stuff like that 99% of the time. It's usually 1 person on twitter with like 10 followers and multimillion dolar companies just bend their ass for them.
@kurrwa
@kurrwa 2 года назад
@@solitwar Twitter is the worst place to be in the world
@kaheres3294
@kaheres3294 2 года назад
I'm French and I'm litterally shaking everytime I'm seeing French Maid Nidalee skin. I request French Maid skin for Urgot from Riot Games and all will be forgiven.
@jianquanma
@jianquanma 2 года назад
no, french maid twitch is better
@st2whocares988
@st2whocares988 2 года назад
FRENCH MAID TARIC AS WELL
@daa9569
@daa9569 2 года назад
URGOT IS DA QUEEN
@unknown-sq7yb
@unknown-sq7yb 2 года назад
As a german speaking individual i feel offended by oktoberfest gragas... just because it's true doesn't mean it won't hurt
@sachadossantos7972
@sachadossantos7972 2 года назад
the "just because it's doesn't mean it won't hurt" is a ATLA reference or just a pure coincidence?
@unknown-sq7yb
@unknown-sq7yb 2 года назад
@@sachadossantos7972 I would say it's a coincidence cause it has been a while since i've seen it and because i watched it in german and not english 🙃
@firminoamigodopapadefunto6311
@firminoamigodopapadefunto6311 2 года назад
@@unknown-sq7yb Gragas Oktoberfest is exactly like Brazilian germans in the South... in Oktoberfest.
@kimaati8769
@kimaati8769 2 года назад
As we say in french : Il n'y a que la vérité qui blesse. It means : Only truth can hurt. Haha
@captainobvious8037
@captainobvious8037 2 года назад
Well ✋ ÄCKTSCHUALI There is no evidence to believe the ingredients of beer favor the development of a so called beer belly in any extraordinary way The only reason people who drink a lot of beer get fat is because it is super easy to overdo it with your calorie intake when not only your food, but also your beverages contain a lot of calories
@floresalice0075
@floresalice0075 2 года назад
8:03 as an Italian born in the region mafia comes from. be sure of one thing: we don't give a sh*t about something named mafia, Italians don't give a shit usually about anything useless, and if someone complains about names on a videogame... I'm 90% sure they are American-Italian or something. Trust me, we have way more things to do than thinking about names on videogames eh eh (we might even feel honored )
@zephyros0946
@zephyros0946 2 года назад
Per motivi diversi ma molti possono esserne onorati, comunque hai ragione alla maggior parte degli italiani fotte sega di ste robe
@Vexy93
@Vexy93 2 года назад
I am from italy and I am truly offended by them thinking that we are such snowflakes that we would get offended by a skin named Mafia or Gangster. The Mafia videogame serie is one of the most appreciated in Italy, just saying...
@acctsys
@acctsys 2 года назад
The woke is offended for you. You are oppressed. No, you can't say you're not. God, the woke are annoying.
@mellomafia98
@mellomafia98 2 года назад
I like how when Pride event was introduced whole Reddit was crying how Turkey goverment shows homophoby for not allowing such an event, but when Riot banned Iran and Syria from league of legends, I never saw those fency Americans comments how sad they are about it, and I'am also sure that most of the Syrian and Iranian players who tried to visit Reddit in hope for help, just got their posts deleted by "superior intellect good looking" r/leagueoflegends mods.
@johannesking5029
@johannesking5029 2 года назад
Reddit users and twitter users "crying about pride issues" actually does not care at all whatsoever about any of this. They care only for the performative action, that is the act of boasting about being progressive, left-leaning and "liberal" (not classical liberal in any regard) They somehow mix authoritarinism in the most extreme way with liberalism, I don't understand how they can make it work on an intellectual level, let alone practical. It must be hard for them, being that full of hate and the whole world to direct it on. Oh how I pity them.
@indipindy7617
@indipindy7617 2 года назад
Welcome to the real world of equality and diversity
@AZ-of7ur
@AZ-of7ur 2 года назад
I really like how you spit facts right there. Keep it up champ
@ByMyslf1
@ByMyslf1 2 года назад
you're missing a big thing here: the pride event was a choice done by riot - had nothing to do with laws. They just assumed they make more money if they dont do it. the ban on syrian or iranian players is something they HAVE to do, because the US government would otherwise start a huge lawsuit
@felipecalatza6215
@felipecalatza6215 2 года назад
syrian and iranian players? How the hell they would play league, using bombs? dumbass
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache
@TheRealGuywithoutaMustache 2 года назад
It just goes to show, there are so many ways to censor certain aspects of a game. And most of the times, it literally makes no sense and so it's always over the top. People will literally complain about anything.
@cuh8571
@cuh8571 2 года назад
bruh stop following me
@KaboomXD
@KaboomXD 2 года назад
YOU ARE EVERYWHERE! HOW???
@LookingforZennx
@LookingforZennx 2 года назад
Your everywhere i swear stop following me😡😤😤
@isee4528
@isee4528 2 года назад
You all also everywhere
@tiamelancholyjeoncockity
@tiamelancholyjeoncockity 2 года назад
The comments are getting worse and worse ngl, it just seems like you’re commenting for the sake of commenting and getting attention now. You’re basically becoming that ray mak guy.
@arcanos4167
@arcanos4167 2 года назад
As a noob player with absolutely neither skill nor understanding of the game's concept I find it highly offensive that League exists. Riot should do something about that!
@ratmancool
@ratmancool 2 года назад
It's been a while, welcome back Nico
@NicolaiLol
@NicolaiLol 2 года назад
Thank you my friend, I will stop disappearing.
@jhinkhadavirtuoso5221
@jhinkhadavirtuoso5221 2 года назад
@@NicolaiLol sure kappa
@BulbaPuff
@BulbaPuff 2 года назад
The Kitty Cat Katarina deeply offends my cat because he feel like I've found a better cat (not saying he's wrong though)
@jacopodam184
@jacopodam184 2 года назад
Well, I'm Italian and have several friends playing Lol and when mafia skins name were changed we felt privated by one of the things that make us proud to be Italians. (I'm obviously joking, but seriously, no one complained about the name "mafia" because it's offensive)
@theteamxxx3142
@theteamxxx3142 2 года назад
Si ma poi la tematica era pure figa , molto clean e semplice , mentre ora la hanno trasformata in bullshit generic old god
@darkcrow125
@darkcrow125 2 года назад
maybe american italian people feel offended because of that i mean america is the best in being offended
@SiMeGamer
@SiMeGamer 2 года назад
@@darkcrow125 if you actually go and do interviews with the supposedly offended parties, it's never them. Ever. Cultural appropriation and incensitivity always comes from agenda driven people that have nothing to do with the actual matter at hand. Usually more politically left leaning groups. It's quite sad that companies bend to the words of so few just because they are so fking vocal which further normalizes it. In the case of governments and geopolitics I get it. But when it's due to "incensitivity" it's always bullsht. A made up problem that requires resources to its solution. It's really sad. You can check out on the Riot Games RU-vid account (not League of Legends) they have a new video titled Latinx smth and its ratio is insane. Plus the comments are all expressing their frustrations. It's a really sad time when companies bend to a minority report because for somefkong reason they don't have a rational morality department 😅
@gnoxvobis3731
@gnoxvobis3731 2 года назад
No fra, non utilizzi il termine Mafia riferito ad un gioco (giocato da gente di ogni età) non sarà stata le fine del mondo ma meglio così. Non vedi una skin "Jhin Spacciatore" o "Gragas Sciogli bambini nell'acido"
@badreddinekasmi8919
@badreddinekasmi8919 2 года назад
@@darkcrow125 I'd argue it's the other way. I think it's more likely that OP is Italian American. Most Italians I've seen thata are born and live there are sensitive about the Mafia because it's such a recent thing historically. Some still have family that was killed by the Mafia.
@idisplayvelocity7007
@idisplayvelocity7007 Год назад
Fun fact, if you use the police skins, you deal bonus damage to lucian, senna and ksante.
@inncenta8244
@inncenta8244 Год назад
ksante? 💀
@whoeveresthere
@whoeveresthere Год назад
omg
@Justanyone_
@Justanyone_ 11 месяцев назад
He forgot black alistar...
@weasley0094
@weasley0094 2 года назад
Jinx is my favorite character and I'm a long time Jinx main, and her Wild Rift model just confuses and infuriates me. Part of Jinx's character is that she doesn't care what other people think of her and she acts all wild and crazy all the time. Clothes take effort and consideration that Jinx simply doesn't want to spend, and part of it is her own wild eccentricity, which she expresses when she tells Ziggs in their short comic that she wasn't wearing a top in a restaurant because she was about to eat cake. Anyways, my point is the bandages/wrappings for her chest are antithetical to what they've established her as. Those take time to bind properly and make sure they are snug, thats time Jinx wouldn't care about and just skip it entirely so she could focus on her next big explosive instead. Now, I understand the censorship, but its still just really off putting for me as someone who has invested a lot of passion into the character. Unfortunately, any complaint I have about it will most likely just get seen as 'gamer boy wants fictional girl to wear less clothing cause he's pervy', so it makes it a frustrating opinion to articulate openly.
@nikezor1
@nikezor1 2 года назад
It's in the same line as the creation of Seraphine. Just watched a video on what Seraphine means to the lore of Runeterra and it's pretty much 0. Who knew she was from Piltover? I didn't, she clearly doesn't look the part. What's her aspirations as a champion? She "wants to help other people find their voice". That doesn't sound generic at all, I'm sure they put a lot of effort into that one. She was made to please the chinese playerbase, China has like 30 servers dedicated to them while almost all of America (South America excluded) has one combined. So they made a pop star skin that joined K/DA as a chinese singer and threw a 30$ skin on the release. Sorry, ranted a bit, I fully agree with you. The changes serve no purpose other than pleasing some minority that make their voices heard through Twitter, sucks really as a lore and world building lover of the game.
@TheLightBringer365
@TheLightBringer365 2 года назад
yeah thats a massive problem in most games. some characters are made to either not care about their clothing, or want to be light/nimble, and censorship removes the immersion, people (mostly twitter) will always try to make the case of ,,immersion isnt that important, and u are a perv'' but thats BS, assasins/rogues in video games cant have 50 kilos of armor, or some accesories like ,,boob bandage'' and still have the immersion. i dont remember the game, but there was this girl that was suicidal, she didnt care if she died as long as she pulled someone with her, and she had a loose T and some shorts, and she was .... busty i guess. and the company was forced to completely change her appearance, clothing wise and... genetically
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 2 года назад
​@@TheLightBringer365 moderately secure wraps help with motion rather than hinders it, so that makes sense for rogues/assasins specifically, it's the same function/purpose as sports bras
@TheLightBringer365
@TheLightBringer365 2 года назад
@@Marcusjnmc wraps and armor have nothing in common, and Bandages are actually invented because there was no female armor so they needed to squish something down, iykyk, to fit the standard armor.
@Marcusjnmc
@Marcusjnmc 2 года назад
@@TheLightBringer365 ? standard armour irl, both european & japanese medieval armours by way of example, has a substancial curve on chest pieces to disapate force, everything fits in just fine, & bandages & wraps are the exact same thing, thin strips of cloth wrapped around many times to be used to secure , the only reason they'd be visible is in the case of 'armour' not protecting the chest or in fact not being armour at all as with assassins & rogues who prioritize motion over protection
@Notoriouslydevious
@Notoriouslydevious 2 года назад
Its weird, Evelynn's base splash (in the champions collection > evelynn > skins, with the full splashes including base) on all servers has been censored on pc. Go to your champion collection and you see Evelynn, she still has the uncensored load-screen crop. Click on her and then click on Skins and there's her wild rift censored splash. Just a bizarre change since her load-in splash when you play a game is still the uncensored.
@supercaddy1239
@supercaddy1239 2 года назад
It’s sad that I can recognize the blurred picture
@powerofspiral9716
@powerofspiral9716 2 года назад
Didn't knew that being man of culture is sad
@asylumskp4391
@asylumskp4391 2 года назад
Man of culture is codeword for struggling porn addict
@Alicii._.
@Alicii._. 2 года назад
3:47 it really hurts that whenever my country syria is mentioned in a video "which is quite rare tbh" it's something bad
@m7mdkv385
@m7mdkv385 2 года назад
it takes only one radical guy to ruin the lives of millions, the world is a fair place right?
@drage7082
@drage7082 2 года назад
In Denmark we have ice cream named after diffrent regions like the “Københavnerstang” which translated to Copenhagen poll” and now its called vanilla poll because it’s “offensive” towards Copenhagens 🤣 there are more exambles of this in Denmark and I find it hilarious that we can’t name an certain type of ice cream because it “might” upset around three people
@syriancycling3439
@syriancycling3439 2 года назад
syrian player here
@lester4532
@lester4532 2 года назад
Hows the ping my syrian friend?
@syriancycling3439
@syriancycling3439 2 года назад
@@lester4532 90-110 on euw
@natsuo1891
@natsuo1891 2 года назад
isn't nord vpn really expensive for syrian people ? i'm palestinian and i wonder, because it's very expensive for me
@syriancycling3439
@syriancycling3439 2 года назад
@@natsuo1891 yes but we share accounts with each other
@killerbas40
@killerbas40 2 года назад
@@syriancycling3439 could you not just play on the Turkey server for better ping? ( only thing i heard is people there are generally way worse so that might be less fun)
@unicornindustry4511
@unicornindustry4511 2 года назад
The last one remanded me of the Wattson Skin name in Apex Legends, this was during the Caos Theory event, the Skin named was "The Conquistador...something xD" and somebody form U.S. in Twetter was like " that name can be offensive to Spanish people" which Respawn say "Okay we are going to thing on a new name for this skin because some girl in Twetter say so" and they did, which people in Spain and Latino America say that they wouldn't felt offend by something like this, it actually sound cool and it goes to the skin, but no, Respawn deside to do what a Girl from the U.S. think on twetter than the actually the people from the places that it suppose represent
@TheAnonimoshadow
@TheAnonimoshadow 2 года назад
as an italian player i never ONCE hear anyone anywhere complaining about the "mafia" skin, i wouldn't be surprised if the "italian player" that complained was some 14 years old american white girl on twitter.
@Sherolox
@Sherolox 2 года назад
Akin to „Ah, I’m 5% Italian and it offends me!!!!!11“
@TheAnonimoshadow
@TheAnonimoshadow Год назад
@@Madison-eb9so the fact that it's a taboo subject it's kinda weird tbh, they or someone close to them probably had something to do with it
@despondentanura6939
@despondentanura6939 Год назад
i like the interaction of Rengar attacking lucian, ekko. senna and saying "Lesser creatures"
@antonioreconquistador
@antonioreconquistador Год назад
Lmao
@XUIW
@XUIW 2 года назад
Imagine owning every skin in the game and spend millions of bags on League of Legends and get banned because your country wants to “protect” you.
@arforafro5523
@arforafro5523 2 года назад
Uhm, buddy nobody is trying protect anyone. The US government forced every american company and industry to stop trade and service with Iran, they are completely aware its going to fuck them (Iran) over in many ways.
@XUIW
@XUIW 2 года назад
@@arforafro5523 How is that related to my comment?
@notme8652
@notme8652 2 года назад
It sucks but it isnt really riot's fault that theyre american
@nightpurple372
@nightpurple372 2 года назад
I am deeply offended about the devil/demon champs/skins, riot must cast them out immediately
@arkantalebi5519
@arkantalebi5519 2 года назад
As a fucking idiot I'm offended at all the shaco skins and I want them removed with the champion
@Valigarmanda
@Valigarmanda 2 года назад
@@arkantalebi5519 based
@omegateemo1701
@omegateemo1701 2 года назад
so much sensitivity in this world , yikes
@jacopodam184
@jacopodam184 2 года назад
Yes, and Riot is the same company that abused their female employees
@mihaitudorfazacas6641
@mihaitudorfazacas6641 2 года назад
@@jacopodam184 wasn't that Blizzard?
@jacopodam184
@jacopodam184 2 года назад
@@mihaitudorfazacas6641 riot too
@mihaitudorfazacas6641
@mihaitudorfazacas6641 2 года назад
@@jacopodam184 what did they do?
@nicxd
@nicxd 2 года назад
@@jacopodam184 something to confirm that?
@dragondrake634
@dragondrake634 2 года назад
No one's talking about how they nerfed Irelia's ass on her Frostblade skin, huh
@yansol5114
@yansol5114 2 года назад
Or the new Pool Party Caitlyn.... 😭
@i_dont_know_who_i_am69
@i_dont_know_who_i_am69 2 года назад
i usually hate excessive censorship but Wild Rift's "censorship" is mostly good in my opinion. the new splash arts just make a lot more sense and just better in general, especially when considering Wild Rift is made for kids, unlike League. the one exception is Thresh ofc, they're just doing it to appease China (the region that brings the most profit, so it makes sense i guess) and it's just bullshit.
@whoeveresthere
@whoeveresthere Год назад
eh, I like what they did to janna, ´cause I always found her slightly embarassing, but the jinx thing is indeed really weird, I´m glad to know I wasnpt the only person who thought that.
@giuanninonamaste1661
@giuanninonamaste1661 2 года назад
the mafia skins were cool honestly, it was like an honor to me, because im from sicily, so i felt like "woah, the story of my region is on my favorite game, cool!"
@ncdgaming3805
@ncdgaming3805 2 года назад
to clear something about the skull rule in places like china, they do this out of respect. they think showing the bones of someone like that in a game is disrespectful to the spirit so they dont allow skulls. makes sense to me
@marin688
@marin688 2 года назад
Makes sense to real deceased people. Not about a fictional character.
@toxic_narcissist
@toxic_narcissist 2 года назад
As a Russian, I find offensive that Italians find Mafia skins more offensive than us
@kor4754
@kor4754 2 года назад
The color festival sounds way more fun to me especially since I love flowers and most the flowers I have bloom near spring.
@sanikspaceman6534
@sanikspaceman6534 2 года назад
Question: If u ban evelyn what is she saying in your language? In the german version she says somenthing like "once again a woman remains unsatisfied". And unsatisfied is usually used in a sexual context :D Wouldnt be suprised if this is also censored in other versions.
@KinSlayer69
@KinSlayer69 2 года назад
"po raz kolejny kobieta wyszła niezadowolona" in polish it means "once again the woman left dissatisfied"
@BRJoinGames
@BRJoinGames 2 года назад
ngl I think the "more clothed" version of the skins looked much better and added more personality to the characters. Clothing is a big part of the character design, and the lack of it also can tell a lot about a character, when most of your female characters lack clothing they also lack big design opportunities and start to look more and more the same. Seriously, just take a loot at Janna, she looks 200% better and much more interesting as a character. Too bad it takes actual laws to make Riot stop being lazy on their designs.
@littledouhie
@littledouhie 2 года назад
Yeah Janna defooo looks better
@FightingDuskstalker
@FightingDuskstalker 2 года назад
Ehm... I don't think universally applying the "more clothed is better" is the right way, either. Looking at the Janna example, she takes on a human form, but she is a wind spirit, and thus distinctly inhuman, what does she care about fashion or modesty? Without getting into better ways her design could show this, the scanty suit is odd and shows a lack of social awareness beyond "Ma'am, you'd best cover those up because... well just because!" But what does the more clothed version we see here do to communicate her character? It's just the uncannily scanty suit made longer, which makes it less of both. The extra material doesn't even look like it allows any airflow, like at all. Looking at the obvious example of the other side... yeah, Ashe needs to be wrapped in at least a couple layers of furs and leather, and adding anything to her outfit is a step in the right direction.
@uzuchihasasuto6996
@uzuchihasasuto6996 2 года назад
@The Frog King Iceborn don't immune to cold. They just have a very high resistance to cold.
@sirgallabad
@sirgallabad 2 года назад
That's why Leona is one of my favorite champions design-wise. There was so much effort put into the design, and where a lot of champions lack personality due to Riot pushing for more sex-appeal, they could instead use clothing in better ways for characters whose personalities suit it well. Ofc Evelynn, who's literally a sex-demon, isn't gonna have normal clothing, but someone like Janna has a whole lot of missed design opportunities.
@fanficologist6621
@fanficologist6621 2 года назад
@@sirgallabad Leona is just wearing metal bikini over spandex. She also has an hourglass figure with no visible abs or muscles despite wielding a giant shield and a huge-ass sword. Let's not kid ourselves here.
@_9SadMaN9_
@_9SadMaN9_ 2 года назад
Bro i live in iran and ngl there is so much we cant access because either our government sensors something or the US bans something Like i get that my country isn't the best and our government isn't either but why are you punishing us the normal people that have nothing to do with the politics
@automaticcaptions
@automaticcaptions 2 года назад
cuz the US is stupid too... 😪
@_9SadMaN9_
@_9SadMaN9_ 2 года назад
@@automaticcaptions bruh Dont do the US dirty as bad as some stuff is its the most progressive country allowing everyone to be themselves and do their own thing
@automaticcaptions
@automaticcaptions 2 года назад
@@_9SadMaN9_ relative to Iran? Sure but it's foreign policy is beyond stupid from their intervention in Afghanistan, Iraq etc... So I get what you're saying, but as someone living in the west, our governments are far from the praise that you're giving them. Also note: I should have been clear, I'm talking only about the government. The ppl of the US are fine, just like Iranian/Persian ppl and any other countries.
@_9SadMaN9_
@_9SadMaN9_ 2 года назад
@@automaticcaptions oh i know the shady stuff done by the US government and in the end of the day they are a government and governments act in their self interest thats why i give them a little bit more credit at least when it comes to foreign policys and they aren't actively spitting in their citizens faces constantly sometimes they do tho im not gonna leave that out
@joejoesenpai1388
@joejoesenpai1388 2 года назад
because america. the greedy moneyhog politican and presidents. those bastards.
@matteobiella2520
@matteobiella2520 2 года назад
I'm italian... and yes, i don't see the problem with the mafia skins. it's not even a stereotype, because it's a sad truth, but we don't fell bad when talking about mafia... if you speak about something that the mafia is doing or someone that is important in the organization you're probably gonna die in acid or blowned up by a bomb in your house... but you don't have to fear the mafia if you're a tourist or a normal person... you can speak about of it, we make joke about it...
@Scarlet_moon.
@Scarlet_moon. 2 года назад
I bet those "Italians" that complained probably couldn't even name the capital city of Italy,let alone locate Italy on world map.
@kurrwa
@kurrwa 2 года назад
all politicians are in mafia xD
@rossalbertdelacruz6751
@rossalbertdelacruz6751 2 года назад
Actually the Wild Rift female clothing censorship kinda looks nice except Evelynn, I know they need to censor that, but why? Also, I kinda bummed out on Thresh's default skin, I was like, "Beach why!?"
@alkaliaurange
@alkaliaurange 2 года назад
It looks nice, each female looks like they have an actual identity rather than just a copy-paste
@h4roeverynyan55
@h4roeverynyan55 2 года назад
honestly, desexualizing characters that were never supposed to be sexual in the first place is a good thing. For champs like evelynn its kinda sad tho
@superslime0021
@superslime0021 2 года назад
I mean... look at janna it was literally an improvement. but champs like evelynn and ahri don't really make sense
@rossalbertdelacruz6751
@rossalbertdelacruz6751 2 года назад
@@superslime0021 I have mixed feelings for Ahri except her Fox Fire skin it was nice
@Red_Angel-dw4cv
@Red_Angel-dw4cv 2 года назад
Improvement??? Shes a literal wind spirit, she doesnt need clothing, she might even be completely naked in reality, but no, they have to cover it up but lee sin? Rakan? Gragas? Not sexual? Nahh its anti horny
@amrssa8480
@amrssa8480 2 года назад
as much as I love my country I have to say this.... it is sad to be IRANIAN
@aaawa2074
@aaawa2074 2 года назад
It’s not your country that is in the wrong it’s the us
@chandlercole5156
@chandlercole5156 2 года назад
@@aaawa2074 I mean...have you seen the Iranian government? Not the best example of a government.
@we_qjr
@we_qjr 2 года назад
Nah dude don't say that. There is nothing you can do about it it's not your fault.
@aaawa2074
@aaawa2074 2 года назад
@@chandlercole5156 Have you seen what the usa has done to the middle east? in the 21st century ? Iran was a beautiful and rich country before USA came for the petrol
@lilpp4791
@lilpp4791 2 года назад
Iran is based because they hate gays
@lazzyreaper7707
@lazzyreaper7707 2 года назад
Ah these “sensitivities" sounds like the reason twitter canceling other XD
@oglenji5648
@oglenji5648 2 года назад
bro the fact nicolai actually paid a guy to voice a irish guy is legendary
@BluRaise
@BluRaise 2 года назад
Bruh that Grimer card………..
@NicolaiLol
@NicolaiLol 2 года назад
lol
@alelelle4434
@alelelle4434 2 года назад
As Italian I feel free to say that "Mafia skins" never bothered me, and I was very confused about this statement when they censored the names; in the most biggest LoL group we were all confused lmao. Yes, Mafia belongs to our story, and yes, it is still alive in south Italy and worldwide and still makes orrible things but you can't just censore existence of Mafia: we should censor or delete all the Padrino's film and etc too, that's just stupid ! x)
@Spaghetsu
@Spaghetsu 2 года назад
Funny thing is that thresh’s pulse fire skin is literally have a skull head and is not censored but the base skin is
@ColetheFlame01
@ColetheFlame01 2 года назад
thats because it looks more robotic than human so no one gives a darn.
@simsom4343
@simsom4343 2 года назад
They made the Mafia issue worse imo Since Mafia is considered such a cool thing in the world, but now its specifically *Crime* city, making Mafia into just crime you know?
@professeurmythologeek7695
@professeurmythologeek7695 2 года назад
I am a lover of old Norse culture and mythology and i think Olaf is very offensive because he's just a stereotype of the Vikings ! That's offensive ! ( All jokes aside I'd just love to get rid off the horns on the helmet, it tilts me a bit xD )
@langnaamlangnaam5010
@langnaamlangnaam5010 2 года назад
Agree but lol Champs are more about Archetypes than originality
@professeurmythologeek7695
@professeurmythologeek7695 2 года назад
@@langnaamlangnaam5010 they were, but can you tell me a champ like aphelios fits an archetype more than a persona ?
@langnaamlangnaam5010
@langnaamlangnaam5010 2 года назад
@@professeurmythologeek7695 I don't think Im understanding quite what your saying but to answer what little I know I think aphelios is just an edgy scifi guy
@professeurmythologeek7695
@professeurmythologeek7695 2 года назад
@@langnaamlangnaam5010 What i mean that the whole " archetype " thing was true for the start of the game, but now, they're more focused on creating new creative champs with personality.
@langnaamlangnaam5010
@langnaamlangnaam5010 2 года назад
@@professeurmythologeek7695 OH then yeah I agree just look at rell
@leo.defanti
@leo.defanti 2 года назад
In Italy some pople dont like the "glorification" that industries like hollywood give to mafia, often making the mafia look badass or the "good guy" part. But i think no one complained about some skins being called "mafia" lol
@GrimmBones
@GrimmBones 2 года назад
Okay, but how fucking HILARIOUS would it be if the reason for the change from Mafia to Crime City was because the actual Mafia threatened Riot Games behind the scenes?
@addison_v_ertisement1678
@addison_v_ertisement1678 Год назад
That would actually be scary.
@lavaknight0532
@lavaknight0532 2 года назад
You should've included corki's passive sound that was changed because ti resembled the war sirens
@CMKloser
@CMKloser Год назад
That's because people played in areas where those sirens are used, and it was the same siren.
@mith7792
@mith7792 2 года назад
correction: "Jinx doesn't have anything to begin with"
@AtPemPem
@AtPemPem 2 года назад
I'm not a Bard so I'm not offended that Bard had a Bard Bard skin even that he dont look like a Bard Ps. I'm a Bard main
@GoverGames
@GoverGames 2 года назад
I feel as though the Mecha skins give us bad representation. Sincerely, Forgot Your Password Bot.
@eliasvonbrille
@eliasvonbrille Год назад
Bro the Grimer card: "Sticky hands" "The defending Pokemon is now asleep".
@kaesiegril9987
@kaesiegril9987 2 года назад
Reminds me that one time they removed Jaina in Hearthstone cleavage.
@daveyinblade
@daveyinblade 2 года назад
Is the Jinx in the thumbnail from that one doujin? N I C E
@NicolaiLol
@NicolaiLol 2 года назад
👀
@loserbrandon
@loserbrandon 2 года назад
HAHA I knew it as soon as I saw it
@daveyinblade
@daveyinblade 2 года назад
@@NicolaiLol MY MAN LOL
@Megadeth0770
@Megadeth0770 2 года назад
in turkish server the names of the skins are different which includes ''god'' in their name.for example the god king darius' name is translated as close to a turkish word like ''supreme or divine king'' for i think religious sensivity
@zekzimbappe5311
@zekzimbappe5311 2 года назад
I know a guy from egypt who played the game since season 3 and he has some relatives in syria so when he went to visit them and tried playing lol he got a ban and when he returned to egypt he was still banned
@addison_v_ertisement1678
@addison_v_ertisement1678 Год назад
Well, time to file a complaint.
@cristinaguzman1604
@cristinaguzman1604 2 года назад
these were actually super interesting! Another bomb videooooo, pls make more soon thank u
@ashleyneku5432
@ashleyneku5432 2 года назад
Some of the alt outfits for champions on WR are actually pretty neat, I for one welcome bodysuit Janna.
@-Koiji-
@-Koiji- 2 года назад
italian player here and i can confirm with the comments on the video, mafia skins are cool just a bit outdated, they are just a classic italian-american kinda godfather-y skins, I think they are bullshitting just to change the name because I played with a lot of people over the years and no one even remotely cares
@cheddary2258
@cheddary2258 2 года назад
Oh helllll yes, that sweet VA-11 HALL-A soundtrack during the NordVPN ad is just glorious
@defaul_tm4886
@defaul_tm4886 2 года назад
to be fair crime city sounds alot more inque to the League universe than mafia, nonetheless still a weird change. also the Police Volibear skin triggering someone lol thats just sad XD
@raptorzpackgaming8860
@raptorzpackgaming8860 2 года назад
It’s just a bear with a mustache in a cop suit
@soullessvoid7194
@soullessvoid7194 2 года назад
Best 15$ ever spent
@NicolaiLol
@NicolaiLol 2 года назад
lol I'm glad someone thinks so!
@v1nceifhewenttothesun682
@v1nceifhewenttothesun682 2 года назад
Even shaco is more serious than twitter users💀
@zacrigby7203
@zacrigby7203 2 года назад
As a little aside to the pride event, I believe the story about Diana and Leona titled “rise with me” was still released in places like Russia and Turkey that still have anti-LGBT+ legislation, but the entire actual story was removed, leavening just the opening and closing poem verses
@Smirving
@Smirving 2 года назад
im turkish i don't understand our people even my mom is agaisnt lgbt+
@Smirving
@Smirving 2 года назад
@@Rasberry00 lol
@john0doesnt
@john0doesnt 2 года назад
why the fuck would they made them gay suddenly...?
@user-mv3kg2lz8n
@user-mv3kg2lz8n 2 года назад
​@@john0doesntLiterally why not? Also, 'make' them gay? I assume you're coming from the 'straight is the default' position...yikes.
@john0doesnt
@john0doesnt 2 года назад
@@user-mv3kg2lz8n straight is the default indeed. Imagine using "yikes" unironically
@gordonfckingramsay3776
@gordonfckingramsay3776 2 года назад
As Gordon Ramsay, I am deeply offended by the chef pantheon Skin. Remove it immediately
@A1Turkish
@A1Turkish 2 года назад
Im from Syria , the game is working without any problem at EUW server!
@lloydaran
@lloydaran 2 года назад
Well guess what, as an Italian, I was deeply offended by the LoL depiction of mafia, but as a criminal, now I am deeply offended by the LoL depiction of "Crime" City.
@lune8136
@lune8136 2 года назад
unfortunately I've seen the 'mafia' thing happen too - A song from a group i know, called 'mafia in the morning' got criticized for the same thing, when the song is in fact a love song
@SonicHaXD
@SonicHaXD 2 года назад
6:37 I hate you for including that LMAO XD
@pigzyplayz3787
@pigzyplayz3787 2 года назад
Lol
@kaworuswife
@kaworuswife 2 года назад
Is the music in the beginning from Danganronpa (the 2nd one to be specific) or am I imagining thibgs?
@nevinherren2738
@nevinherren2738 2 года назад
Renaming the mafia skins was so upsetting to me because the mafia wasnt even exclusive to Italians, Russia also had a mafia and america had gangsters to say it was purely offensive to Italians is dumb and just deflective to the actual issue that they seem to care more about possible things someone might get upset by then fixing bugs in thier game.
@ItsShiNaru
@ItsShiNaru Год назад
As iranian I confirm that we are not able to normally play all riot games, epic games store, ea origins and also apex legends (we are actually able to play it normally if we download it from steam), Ubisoft games, and a lot more games. There are some ways to play these games if we use a dns Changer and change our dns or using a VPN (which is not the best way because we get bad ping compare to dns changers).
@nonamesorry7135
@nonamesorry7135 2 года назад
I am actually offended by the fact there are no men kissing in any of the game artwork, just furiously making out in the background. That is unacceptable, two homies should be allowed to taste test each other with passion in a straight way from time to time
@trahman1010
@trahman1010 2 года назад
Nah bruh Imma need you to log out for me.
@nonamesorry7135
@nonamesorry7135 2 года назад
@@trahman1010 I am actually deeply offended that you just told me to log off I think that's very homiephobic of you to say such things to a man who just expressed his deep desire to see people being passionately loved despite their genitalia on screen like two homies they are
@hbfrsg42
@hbfrsg42 2 года назад
I think the Wild Rift censorship unironically looks better on 90% of the champions it was given to. Really the only exceptions to that are in cases were it either A: isnt noticeable, or B: intentionally contradicts the point of the character.
@IOWOTA
@IOWOTA 2 года назад
I am italian and i still dont understand that italians who wanted the mafia skin’s name changed, i remember when i found mafia jinx i started laughing and made it permanent skin just for the name, it was so funny
@saddafne
@saddafne 2 года назад
“It was request from Italian players, who didn’t feel great about the term ‘Mafia’” as a Italian myself I can say this is a fking big bullshit and I never ever heard someone makes complaints about the term ‘Mafia’, actually a lot of us get pissed because they changed it lel
@superflan2981
@superflan2981 2 года назад
"So the americans said you cant play league, and were gonna agree with that. Just be born American next time guys."
@smithingbear7522
@smithingbear7522 2 года назад
That's politics
@hamsterfromabove8905
@hamsterfromabove8905 2 месяца назад
I mean yea. Iran and Syria are as close to enemies of the US as you can get without being in a hot war. The US has no reason to allow enemies of theirs to use anything of theirs. If Iranian citizens want that to change then they must change their government enough that they are no longer enemies of the country who's stuff they want to use.
@LadyInBlack224
@LadyInBlack224 2 года назад
I'm Italian and I find the name change of the mafia skin set really ridiculous. I remember when the change came that both my friends and I were bothered by this thing LOL
@doubledragon963
@doubledragon963 2 года назад
Still a good name tho
@Real-Shadow
@Real-Shadow 2 года назад
8:05 I'm not Italian, but one my best friends, who I play league with weekly, sometimes daily, jokes about mafias and such all the time at school, even saying its part of his heritage to be good at mafia(the game we didn't actually kill anyone in a school)
@oramudajoestar9082
@oramudajoestar9082 2 года назад
if you get pentakill on police volibear skin vs lucian, akshan, ekko, samira and senna you'll get permaban for racism.
@michaelk9080
@michaelk9080 2 года назад
Turkey, Korea and Russia based.
@geldregen
@geldregen 2 года назад
truee
@Zarion106
@Zarion106 2 года назад
I always go voli and swap to police skin whenever I'm against Lucian or Senna.
@DRAGONalpha117
@DRAGONalpha117 2 года назад
usually we italians don't really care about stereotypes we are used to them and if they aren't too offensive we just ignore them
@WaywardVector
@WaywardVector 2 года назад
My friends, I have come with that fabulous sautéed sauce in the thumbnail, marinara with a light sprinkling of Parmesan, 109851 grains of Parmesan.
@Yue12313
@Yue12313 2 года назад
and I'm proudly say that's a Taiwanese illustrator's work
@Silv3rM4st3r
@Silv3rM4st3r 2 года назад
5:21 There is some truth in this message, I can feel it!
@Boromir95
@Boromir95 2 года назад
This situation for Iran is so shameful for riot. Banning players only because their from a country because of politics is ridiculous. They could've just disable the shop!
@trahman1010
@trahman1010 2 года назад
No they’re literally not supposed to be allowed to play the game at all due to the sanctions. Riot can’t just be breaking the law for anyone… Its still a shitty situation nonetheless
@DraknorDragor
@DraknorDragor 2 года назад
did you actually listen to the situation ? its a government affair with riot getting into legal trouble its not as simple as disabling the shop, i don't think the American government would care tbh
@trahman1010
@trahman1010 2 года назад
@Nogilthazaa Yeah, honestly I think its weird how there’s not much coverage about this type of stuff…
@FiniksLP
@FiniksLP 2 года назад
if u want to be mad at someone be mad at america
@Backstorm13
@Backstorm13 2 года назад
Just get a VPN man. Everything is free and permitted on the internet.
@amirmahdigerami8700
@amirmahdigerami8700 2 года назад
It's honestly sad that whenever my country iran is mentioned in any form of video (regardless of subject) it's always about hating my country. We are not what U.S told you we are . We are simply humans that are forced to live in a good country with shitty government that has no regard for it's people
@harupandaru4147
@harupandaru4147 2 года назад
Anyway as you said about "Mafia" skins there was same problem with ¨new Coven skins(zyra, evelyn and more) .... In this coletciton was warw and maplhite... and they chang it to "Old Gods" because it was offensive
@rinonono3792
@rinonono3792 2 года назад
At first, I thought you would also talk about how betting channel points for predicting games of League on Twitch is illegal in some countries like here in the Philippines. Anyways love the vid amazing and interesting as always
@m7mdkv385
@m7mdkv385 2 года назад
but why would they do that? let me predict. it encourages gambling?
@rinonono3792
@rinonono3792 2 года назад
@@m7mdkv385 yep online gambling. I think the law is outdated or smthn I'm not really sure. Sad
@Kanakotka
@Kanakotka 2 года назад
LGBT is not a community, it's a movement of few that absolutely don't and never have represented the rest. I do not ever want to claim myself as "LGBT" even if i'm in a same sex relationship because the pandering and the politicization of it is absolutely disgusting to me, and i think rito doing that nonsense pandering was absolutely disgusting. Also the request to change the mafia skins wasn't even from any Italian players. It was a single american player trying to raise shit about it, exactly as deranged as the person calling the best Volibear skin "racist".
@chukyuniqul
@chukyuniqul 2 года назад
Worst thing is, if you do feel uncomfortable because of how you're viewed due to your sexuality, LGBT support communities are 100% a thing that exist. But because of the way the LGBT movement is presented online by idiots it discourages people from seeking said support out. Probably doesn't help that it's quite likely to also draw in people who just wanna virtue signal.
@ness576
@ness576 2 года назад
We know for a fact that all communities and units of social organization have their dark and bright side. We cannot deny that, in fact we must be critical of those negative aspects like you are. But we should never fall into that vicious circle of exerting oppression because you are in a position to be able to do so. If it wasn't for the organization and mobilization of the ever evolving LGBTQ+ communities around the world, being anything but heterosexual would be punished with torture and death in the majority if not all countries. Same as most historically oppressed groups who struggled and continue to struggle to this day. The community mainly serves and strives to be shelter and a safe space for people that have been abandoned, relegated, disowned, marginalized, impoverished, homeless, ill, forgotten, afraid or they just feel like they aren't validated as a person. I used to think like you, i felt like the actions and people in the community didn't represent me or i didn't want to be represented or associated to them. What is true is that we still shared a single characteristic of not conforming to hetero-normativitiy. I understood that i was a human being trying to exist as i was, just like all of them. I knew i couldnt let myself be an obstacle for the community to keep protesting, demanding the recognition of human rights, to continue to be a reminder to all people that non-heteronormative people exist everywhere in the world and that they are humans too. One last thing, about the politicization of sexualities, gender identity and gender expression. They were first politicized by the structure of oppressive heteronormativity who decided to outlaw them or institutionally declare it unholy, unnatural, indecent, queer, to call it an illness. The struggle is against the politicization of all of it, to finally recognize the humanity of all and put that matter to rest while ensuring no person could go unaccounted for trying to oppress others because of their humanity. And what Riot voluntarily did wasnt just pandering, because no single corporation is a guardian of human dignity, it was a gesture to say "we see you, we know you are here, we know you exist". Just that.
@Kanakotka
@Kanakotka 2 года назад
​@@ness576 The vast majority of what you say is completely incorrect, i'm afraid. I will take it paragraph by paragraph. Firstly, being critical, even vocally critical to an extreme can never, and should never be compared to any manner of oppression for any reason. As i noted before, there is not "LGBT" or "+" community. The term is ancient and the T or any of the other extensions don't really belong, it was just tacked on as a part of it in the 70's when the movements (not communities) first started. The word "community" is defined by the fact that their elements interreact and are interdependent on the regular, and this has never really been the case with L, G, B or T. You are also completely and ridiculously wrong about being punished as such. Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual couples have existed as long as written history has been available, and only on rare occasion have they seen any manner of persecution. The reason this is a commonly held belief is simply of practice and prestige when it comes to royals. Even if a ruler was gay, it was part of his duty to marry and have children. I can not believe how vehemently you argue for an existence of a community that objectively does not exist. An average gay guy has absolutely nothing in common with an average FtM for instance. There is no "LGBT Community", if you have gender dysphoria and you seek help, you will find help in specifically trans communities, never the others... and honestly i'm not convinced they offer the best help either. Lol. Hetero-normativity is just objective reality, the fact that my mind is wired in a way that does not feel attraction to the opposite sex in particular is an abnormality. There is nothing inherently wrong about an abnormality, as i'm also abnormally tall(among a number of other abnormalities), at around 207cm. Both of these characteristics are (largely) immutable. I will never understand how people who identify as "LGBT+whatever" keep insisting that they're "normal", they're not, and to me at least that should be part of the charm. Also on hetero-normativity, i'm more than happy to inform you that most people suffering from gender dysphoria are straight, so they have even less to do with the L,G,B than most think. It should also be noted that the amount of protests and showcases the LGBT movements have is overall at this point damaging to any point they want to make. I wish i had the power you believe you have so i could stand in the way of them damaging the reputation of the average "non hetero-normative" people any more. People already walk on eggshells the moment i mention i'm not straight, because they believe i'm as easily offended as the paper-thin skinned lgbt activists. I hard disagree with you on this paragraph. I, like the vast majority of people, do not believe "gender expression" is a thing that exists. In fact, "gender identity" is also absolute nonsense in my mind. The fact that i believe this is specifically, and only, because i have read the so-called scientific source material from John Money. Ironically, reading the source material is the exact same reason why i do not believe in most religions. Characterizing heteronormativity as "oppressive" is literally nothing more than tilting at windmills. The so-called struggle in recent years is anything but against struggle against politicization of it, as these kinds of opinions are expressed almost exclusively by a fringe minority of politics. Every person who believes in the opinions that you are telling me will not only land in the same quadrant of the political compass, but in the same tiny area. It is also *very* common to hear the (more often than not) untruthful claim from these people of "i used to think like you...", this is a trick of the utmost simple psychology. What Riot did is explicitly pandering, and it qualifies for the complete definition of the word. What is so sad to me is that people who are, for a lack of better word, groomed into the belief that you share all spout practically identical lines, using identical words, and identical arguments that have next to nothing in common with reality. The words "marginalized", "hetero-normativity" and the terms "gender expression" and "gender identity" are never used in common parlance outside of the vehement believers of this doctrine. They are not dogwhistles, merely indicators of an ideology.
@ness576
@ness576 2 года назад
@@Kanakotka Paragraph by paragraph like you said. The vicious cycle of oppression is ignoring that you are still in a favorable place or have the resources to further devalue the existence of a single person or a group of people. Which is what people bite into when they do not take into account that, due to their economic, social, cultural, and historical conditions, others are powerless and have less agency against them as a person or for belonging to a group of people. And i suppose you’ll think something along the lines of “winners get to write history”. What im getting here is knowing that all communities that span further from your field of view or your physical possibility to interact with them is an imagined community. That’s the concept nations and countries are based on, also subculture groups, and groups of people that most often have a historical struggle in common. Also the lgbtq+ is not only about any sexuality that does not conform to heterosexuality, it also offers a safe space for gender identities that do not align with a gender binary. And lastly, i don’t know why you are comparing royalty having the power to do whatever they want with people that have to abide by laws they were born into in a world were mobility is heavily stigmatized, policed, and deterred. It’s funny how you refuse to call anything larger than a few people a community or any group by any measure at all, but i can understand why. But the thing i don’t understand is how you view being punished by whole countries and religions for not being heterosexual is not of common occurrence. we can talk about the historical penal codes of great britain, france, germany, the ussr. Few of the biggest imperialists and colonialists in history which transcended politically into the penal codes of their colonies and territories under imperial rule. Not only politically but throughout their societies, the culture, and religion. Heteronormativity is a structure, just like a hypothetical homonormativity would be if it existed. The oppression component is caused by its institutionalization. Yes, you said it. There is oppression even within the community because it has great diversity of human beings that have their own economic, social, cultural, and historical advantages in power and agency. That doesn’t mean the community doesn’t exist either. And yes, those differences also fragment the community. Still doesn’t mean it serves as a refuge for people with the same struggle. You talk about normality, in the biological and statistical sense of the word. You aren’t taking into account the societal weight and value added to the word natural. You should have said “im abnormal and there’s nothing wrong with it” a couple millennia ago so we wouldn’t be having this conversation today. But that’s the “objective reality”, normal also has a value judgement attached to it and being able to ignore it is a societal advantage. And for this last few paragraphs about ideology. I can’t understand why you don’t subscribe to a religious belief when you have all the characteristics that will make you benefit greatly from it. But i guess somewhere along the line you decided to believe in objective reality, just like any other absolutist belief. The argument of certain concepts or words not having any relevance or value by not being part of “common parlance” would apply to all sciences, disciplines, ideologies, any body of curated knowledge. I can’t really understand why your reasoning just abruptly stops in some lines of thought. The thing about “the community” while saying there is trans communities, recognizing the existence of diverse sexualities but not diverse gender identities and expression. Saying that being abnormal is not wrong while using royalty as an example of the possibility to have a free development of our own personalities. Saying that some words are invalid because they are only used by a particular group of people while using the concept of objective reality, which makes a lot of sense in your reasoning. I can’t understand why you claim there is an objective reality and you say you don’t believe in any religion. I’ll repeat it again, because i was being truthful and vulnerable with you, talking from human being to human being: I did use to think like you do. But i guess im no longer willing to contribute to the structures that, at any moment, will throw away the efforts of people to conquer freedom and the recognition of their humanity. I hope that, if you ever run a political campaign your slogan is “abnormality isn’t wrong, and that’s the charm of the objective reality”. If i could make a judgment of your reasoning id say your whole thing has the “im gay but i vote republican” energy that is common in the united states.
@barnykirashi
@barnykirashi 2 года назад
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