THE WHATIFALTHISTORY VIDEOS ARE GETTING WORSE HELP 

Whatifalthist takes place in a Mr. Z themed universe as Mr. Z's self insert.

He comes from the steel ball universe where the corpse part exist and the steel ball run race is not for diamonds

He hasn't adapted to this universe yet, give him a while he might figure it out

The way this is phrased makes me confused as to whether this is a question or a statement.

What if alt history be like........ Gio, you getting the mold, I'm getting the cobwebs. We all do. It wasn't that they can't look back on what never was because they couldn't do what they were ALWAYS saying and really though, they should. And its because they could that they never would. And it's really a shame. They'll always put that behind them even though it does get kind of interesting as to where they all went. And it really makes you wonder why they wouldn't get back to what was certainly getting pretty prominent amongst various segments of what they understood to be true in circumstances that will find them when the time is right. Right for not knowing enough to care when there was some sort of problem with the prospect of learning more.

I feel your pain dude :( I almost got in but I highlighted Pakistan instead of Iraq on the entrance exam.

Freaking choked on my water scrolling onto this one

I passed that course, but I unfortunately didn't make it through the union suppression course.

I glanced at the comments before watching the video and this comment really had me wondering what it could possibly be a response to. What a wild ride.

He does sound like he's stopped actually integrating any new information past high school.

I was a gifted kid. Always got good grades without trying. Never studied, never did homework and still got a's and b's. Almost always knew the answer in class. Everybody always praised my intelligence. Nearly skipped two grades. Was and still is interested in philosophy and science and other intellectual stuff. The only difference now is I think I'm an idiot. I have the worst imposter syndrome. It seems to me that gifted kids either end up thinking they're smarter than they are or thinking they're moronic.

@@allykat5899 That's a legitimate phenomenon, something I'm also experiencing. A lot of "gifted" kids do extremely well in school but immediately hit the bricks as soon as they graduate. Most gifted kids are in fact special needs in some way (I.e. ADHD, autism spectrum, etc) and do especially well in the very rigidly structured school environment where you're told to do XYZ very clearly with little room for misinterpretation. It's a glaring issue for the school system

@@allykat5899 the more you know the more you realize how much there is you don't know

@@skylarsaysstuff Did Rudyard even attend or is attending a college/university? Can't find that Canadian anywhere lol

Honestly I'm more suprised that he made vegan arguements. Or is he only pretending to care about animal cruelty because the one book he read did so? Probably the latter

Twitter users would be like “yeah I need a source that skinning a dog alive is bad”

It was also used as ABA to discriminate against gays and autistic people.

Bro, you're right. Thanks for confirming that my skepticism was wrong regarding althist. I trust ya bro

He didn't say that bro. If anything, Skinners hypothesis lead to the delay of modern animal rights movements by a few decades

and master of none lol

I don't think he would admit to Sociology being a real science.

Well yeah bro. Did you see all those books he read??? I once read a Steven Pinker book and now I'm basically an expert in all the humanities because I know how the mind works.

They reject him because he is just too advanced! Nobody looks at renaissance paintings now, only a genius like him can google "classical religious painting jpeg" nobody thinks the world is like the 2 parts of the lord of the rings he read, but he does!

Truly the personificaiton of The Dunning-Kruger effect.

I think that it’s even worse than that, because on top of what you have said, he uses the limited information he has in an attempt to justify his worldview instead of actually learning what it means.

Whoa, did not expect to see you here. Luv your Owl House video.😄

2nd generation ben shapiro. intellectuals of idiocy.

@@leoncheng6768 I was also shocked to recognise this person

Holy shit what are you doing here

How does him regularly smoking weed jive with his religiosity? I feel like those would conflict. It's a fun theory, though.

Don’t forget the time to make those totally accurate maps

@@Sneaker3719 Religion and drugs kinda go hand in hand

@@shiny_teddiursa squiggly lines!

It's just a grift. Late stage capitalism is when everything is commodified even ideas.

positive aspects such as ?

@@anon6350 Activism? Civil rights? Growing awareness & opposition to Cold War proxy wars & imperial meddling like Vietnam & South America among many others?

@@anon6350 Civil rights and a broader peace and freedom approach are the obvious ones.

@@zacheryeckard3051 well cant deny the positives. then why all the hate ?

@@anon6350 Because it was a very brief and non-comprehensive window and majority of boomers especially prolific ones were subsumed back into the existing power structures of capital.

@@YokaiX “Taoism is that sweet spot between stoner hippie and apathy” -Sun Musashi, The Art of the Fellowship of the Rings

Yeah, but how many books have you read? Actually probably a lot. WhatifAltHist should pursue a degree if he reads so much. But is he gonna do that? I doubt it.

@@SaurianSavior the kind of books he reads would get him laughed out of the classroom. It’s almost sad how much of a will he has to read and learn, while not knowing F-all about smelling bs because nobody taught him critical thinking. Aka the closest thing to scientifically quantifiable common sense.

I’m lucky to gave gotten my Master in history before he even made his channel. I love how confidently he misuses historiographical concepts and terminology, it’s like the hobo version of history.

People saying his mind has gone off the deep end is a running theme.

@@SaurianSavior 3 books

Killer song title.

@@differentbutsimilar7893 true

"the lack of common sense that is going through our society"

Those are just Death Grips lyrics

he also wrote "inspired many chads onto to great deeds"

the benjamin button of dialectics

It's like encountered a contradiction in his thinking and he had to stop and smother it with a pillow so he could continue his train of thought

It's like a Gumbo level of mental gymnastics, sudden-onset dementia within one statement, all couched with buzzword salad.

@Мурка Capitalist apologetics in a nutshell. Reject science, worship the invisible hand of the free market with human sacrifice.

Fire burns the house. Therefore the house is bad.

Not even, "thus wine bad." More like, "We invented hope, then big bang boom, the Holocaust had crayons."

@@ImNotaRussianBot accurate

Not going to lie, but watching all of these jokes at his expense feels like divine comeuppance. He has always sounded so pedantic and so fake. Who knows? Maybe if I met him, he'd end up being a great friend. But supposing he acted like on his videos, I'd leave him the f*ck away. He just sounds like one of those guys who create excuses for why they're lonely. I don't know, mate. He sounds so lame and like he constructed his own fantasy land to deal with the pain that he's probably not all that giftet.

I save Whatifalthist videos for when Vaush reacts to them the way Mormons save themselves for marriage.

@@Anton-wk8lv Whatifalthist has broken my brain so much I nearly laughed so hard I started crying

and its better that way because he just... Makes me want to bang my head on my desk after chewing his throat out-

It is really just pure joy to watch him watch these videos.

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 he had a chat with coach red pill (lira) and some other fash jerk on gonzalo lira's channel. it was soooooo funny seeing all three morons try and hold a conversation

So you believe in Elite Gate-Keeping, then . . .

He forgot to add he is the humblest person ever lived.

I think the wage economy definitely impacted it a lot, and birth control of course was a big part of sexual liberation though I think it's an interesting research question to think about the connections between social movements and technological innovations. Like agricultural technology improvements made industrialization possible, which created a wage economy, and women have been working in the wage economy from the start and it's inevitable that people would want more control over their autonomy when they are earning money and eventually paying taxes on it. At the same time women's equality has been a topic in political philosophy from the 15th century so we might have come to this point through separate material conditions too.

We should be careful when conflating science with technology. One usually leads to the other but application is not the same as theory. Whatifalthist rather strangely isn't just ranting about modernity and saying stuff like nuclear physics is bad because of the atom bomb. But seems to be genuinely offended at science for proving atoms exist.

I think that’s just Dunning-Kruger

*dimmer *dumber Pick one.

Everyone gets dummer as they age. You peak at 25 and it's downhill from there.

Reverse-learning. lol.

@Mateusz Misztela Do I have to explain the difference between knowledge and intellect to you?

bad dialectics intensifies

That’s because HE thinks that contemporary current day-to-day reality is boring, and is frustrated by the perception that “living in this environment made people so incurious about the world that they have no choice beyond obsess with stories settled in a common environment or something completely unrealistic”. Basically, he’s mad that people don’t believe that Spiderman is real and keep telling stories about that while they know it’s not real. Unlike the “old days” were people told fantastic stories, but believed *at least* that the world was so mystical that they could be perfectly viable. In other words, he wants myths and legends and folklore because - in his mind - they actually told something about how magical the world is, unlike the degenerate modern tradition of super-heroes that people only like as escapism and don’t believe that something just like that could be real or possible. Look, the guy called the fucking “300 of Sparta” a “slight exaggeration”, which in any other context I would call the most euphemistically way to put it, but coming from him I know that he actually believes when he says that. The mention about the necessity of “a tradition of religious narratives” by the end of the video perfectly reveals his delusion. He have a need for magical thinking, and he thinks everyone else needs it. Also is tangentially mentioned in this video, but based on other things - manly his unironic idea that Age of Empires and HoI provided a jumping point to inspire a whole generation to change the world - he most likely thinks it’s a sign of a small mind to like stories that are like, just about everyday people living everyday life and dealing with actual problems, instead of stories about, i don’t even know what to call it… A epic set in the contemporary world? If Zero Dark Thirty had the aesthetics and form of 300. If American Sniper was even more chauvinistic, and had Chris Kyle leading a full scale successful victory over the Iraqi insurgents, and then died martyred for that. A “slight exaggeration” the types Whatifalthist would most likely welcome. Btw if you didn’t, you should check the “Obsession With Mythology”; “Mystical Or Fictionalized World View” and “Hero Worship” boxes in your “How To Spot a Fascist” Identification Form - The one you receive upon gaining membership at Antifa, we all have one, it comes with the BlackBloc Uniform and the Smash The Fash Melee Instructional Tape.

He's not wrong, wrt the storytelling in modern commercial art works. If it's mainstream enough to be widely popular and "realistic" in the sense of not being fantasy, scifi, or a comic book adaptation it's probably pretty bland entertainment unless it's absurdist or slapstick comedy.

​@@thesun6211 there will be blood, no country for old men, once upon a time in Hollywood, Django unchained, the Revenant, moonlight, dances with Wolves, master and commander, the wolf of wall street, the big short, ocean's 11, reservoir dogs, basically every single modern war movie, the entire genre of historical drama, every documentary that has literally ever been made about real figures. Just to name a few off the top of my head

​@@sunrise_flaregreat relpy

Because the colonies were even more shit

its

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You're being far too charitable. You didn't see any guys like this in grad school. Or anyway you certainly didn't see them for long.

Well he dropped out for a reason lol

So my like laziness (that ive been digging myself out of, came from childhood shit).. so it isnt just ms Gifted kid and then junior and senior year slapped me in the face ans now ive been burnt out for nearly a year

Funny actually, I started uni with a I'm here but don't care much cause I'm not smart attitude, then came out top of the class and now doing a PhD... there were loads of 'just asking questions' examples that ended up leaving uni with low marks. Maybe this really is a universal thing

A member of my cohort in my conservatory program ended up quitting halfway through to become a philosophy major because his discussions and arguments about text analysis weren’t taken seriously. (He tried to make a comparison between being marginalized for your gender, skin color, sexuality, etc and being a conservative in a predominantly liberal university in a room full of people who were queer, POC, women, and/or disabled.) Looking back, whatif and that guy are basically the same person.

Which is weird because all the scientists I personally know are big fantasy fans and have very rich inner lives.

The truth is much more complicated.

@@allykat5899 the truth is that they were just people with their own lives, like us. Just adapted to a different environment

@@Gloomdrake Obviously. It wasn't a utopia but it wasn't hell either. The rate of violence would've functioned the way it does today with environmental factors such as food production affecting it.

It reminds me of the concept of “Arcadia”, a more “one with nature/good olde more Puritan past” edenistic concept of utopia.

When in reality we all know it only English men!

Or someone who wrote a script entirely with predictive text.

idk which is one is better :D

Nah bro. Einstein went and made Newton look like a stupid science bitch. Science is a LIAR sometimes

And nowadays scientists are well-aware that the models we use are flawed. They still can't combine physics on the micro and macro level

That part was making me rage tbh

If you don't mind me asking and explaining this to me like I'm five, what are the problems with Newtonian physics?

@@colt9836 Basically, Newtonian physics do a good job of explaining medium sized things, like balls falling, cars moving, etc, but atomic and galactic scales can not be explained by Newtonian physics.

100% agree. i believe this is it.

agreed its so fucking hilarious

I think this way with Spirit Science, dude's just a goldmine of batshittery.

I believe it has an excellent Alex Jones type of schizo watch, the outright lunacy is enchanting but severely brain damaging.

Haha I saw that too, Vowsh NEEDS to react to this!! In fact, I'm gonna watch it now!

yeah all Nazis are incels, shocker

You can't be both hilarious and terrifying in the same physical universe. Are you implying that there are no schizo LEFT-wingers? Liberals usually do. Make up your mind.

Not exactly. For Rousseau, it was logically primary, but didn't necessarily happen in reality - it's a fondation, not an historical origin. And as such, it's not an exemple but an argument. The core idea was that the savage is "like a beast", neither good nor evil. However, for Rousseau neither good nor evil means fundamentaly good, for his implicit metaphysics are very platonician: evil doesn't exist, it's a modification/an interference with the nature of an object. After this first state of nature comes a second one, this time historical and which can be deduced from observations of the modern day savages, where people live in small communities and are healthy and happy. Corruption appears first as envy, then as private property. So no, your point doesn't work.

@@metaxu3305 What does it matter? Rousseau is burning in Hell.

​@@misterwhipple2870 Inshallah

Even when he was better in the past, he was always a virgin alternate history channel compared to the Chad AlternateHistoryHub

@@wile123456 I still think like althishub is somewhat conservative. I remember him saying he’s some kind of radical catholic but even that could be memes. But regardless been watching Cody since the first Roman Empire videos good videos and overall great guy

@@joee7809 he's always given me a kind of vaguely progressive center-left vibe

@@joee7809 radical Catholic aka Nazi that's usually there way to signal oh guys trust me not a Nazi wink wink.

I'm new here , what's a pod person?

Based welcome to the gang

Whatifalthist was actively radicalizing me when I stumbled upon Vaush’s first reaction to him. I have been a fan of Vaush ever since.

@@givemeawand I'm always happy to hear about people who manage to climb out of the online right rabbit hole, or to avoid it. As someone who went through it as a kid, internet radicalisation into weird right wing and generally authoritarian ideologies leads you to some pretty dark places.

WhatifAlthist is a Voosh psyop to get more people to draw horsecock edits of classic renaissance paintings.

Yeah, he really did... by interrupting him every time he was constructing an argument

No! Hundreds of years of common sense! No fiction! No, the iron rule made it. 😒

Dude is probably in the camp that technology will fix it if everybody tries hard enough. Gives off that vibe

Is that the one where he calls himself a historian and then freely admits he's an undergrad dropout? Good times.

Hermann Goering actually forbade them. That does not give him any moral credit.

If it’s any help; the search algorithm is really good at putting us into bubbles so no like/dislike ratio actually says that much.

@@YokaiX the only difference between him and those reptoid conspiracists is the reptoid conspiracists try to give evidence

Genuinely, what does “there’s proof of gays being evil” even mean? 😂

@@warlordofbritannia it means he slurps down dick like a vacuum

@@warlordofbritannia they were capes and dark clothing, like '80's villains.

@@Robin-jk6wz true that makes us hot AND evil

oh my!

Ok r/BadMaps love shitting on WhatIfAltHist

Chemical imbalance probably.

How do you get to Canegie hall?

F***ckkkkkk... That hit hard, but it is well-deserved. That mate's always talking about his Irish father and it gets tiresome.

That was a very homoerotic thing to say. Do you like little boys' butts?

That's true the first Greek philosopher's said that kids today are worse then ever. Clear the issue got worse with time

I'm a continuing subscriber because I think it's important to understand what arguments are being pushed by the right, and I don't have the patience or mental stability to try and keep up with a right-politics channel.

Same here from history to historical fantasy

@@daraghokane4236 People have been whining about the new generation for eons. Doesn't make it true. There was whining when kids switched from the blackboards to pencil and paper in schools ffs

@@elvingearmasterirma7241 I think he was joking? But yeah, people will always complain about “kids these days” lol.

"But scientists are supposed to magically develop a consistent understanding of reality that never changes, just like religious dogmatism!!" - alt hist, probably

@@miskatonic_alumni Too many religious people believe that, unironically.

also, people still use newtonian physics for basic calculations, because while it is technically wrong, it's also close enough for practical use. airplanes aren't using relativistic mechanics to fly, they're running on newtonian physics because at that speed and distance, the discrepancy is so small as to be unnoticable. it's not like einstein published his theory and everyone went "welp, newton was wrong" and burned all the books with his name in them. if you wanna know how a ball will bounce, newton's got ya covered.

@@Yal_Rathol This is correct. Newtonian physics is accurate for about 99.98% of all human life applications. The 0.02% where it is not accurate, requiring some combination of quantum theory and/or general relativity, is in developing things like trasistors and GPS, respectively.

He's been smelling them so long he's been oxygen deficient for years.

Pretty sure at this point the methane fumes have rendered this poor sap an actual r-word.

But he's read more books than you!!1!

He smokes his own weed.

​@@OneEyeShadowI feel he just reads summaries.

I think it's in Morrowind In the elder scrolls games

(And the map seems to colour as "communist leaning" any nation which had reference to socialism in its constitution.)

pretty much

Just because you CAN do something does not mean that you SHOULD do it.

@@misterwhipple2870 Exactly.

Most scientists will not have heard of it. I think a more normal way to refer to what he's maybe trying to get at is just the fact that not everything that exists and that matters to us is decidable via scientific experimentation. Which is such a trivial point that it just goes without saying to scientists.

Same experience. "What would have happened if Columbus had found a route to India" to "why the despotic rule of women and urbanites is doomed."

I mean it’s supposed to give general ideas so it’s obviously not going to be as rigorous as it can be, otherwise it would be 10 hours long

Same actually. It was a fun history theorizing channel with some interesting ideas and highlighting interesting facts to consider. Now it has become this absolutely insane crusade where everything he hates (communism, antidepressants, feminism, modern art, DC movies, you name it) has to be a part of some grand narrative, no matter how incoherent it is.

it's that HOI4 brainrot

He stopped doing research for his videos, that is the evil iron rule, he just based all of his history knowledge on the far superior common sense! /s

That's because him being an idiot isn't a character.

He used to do alternate history

Or that most hubs of wealth tech ect are liberal

Would other world powers back both sides in a bid to just destroy as much American infrastructure as possible?

Yeah, I remember learning a little bit about Behaviorism. It doesn't "deny" the existence of an internal experience, it just focuses exclusively on external behaviors and conditioning because those can be directly and empirically tested. I think he just read someone criticize Behaviorism by saying, "It doesn't account for a being's internal experience," and went on to assume that Behaviorism denies its existence.

@@cogsworther1639 Yeah I think that's a good way of framing. Behavorists didn't deny that animals have cognition, they just had a framework focused on behavior because it's easy to quantify and control. Animal psychology benefits from some of the principles they discovered.

I’m a moron and even I can read the first section of a psychology text book man it’s crazy-

Dunning-Kruger

There's a very fundamental difference between feigned and actual confidence. Now I have to run, I have an evening doctor's appointment.

This is usually found with profoundly mediocre white people who had a precious childhood filled with delusional levels of ego-boosting.

Becoming "speechless" is a cheap rhetorical trick of the Left. It's a shtick.

At least 1. Maybe even 10

All theory, so... yes?

oh, you're a fan of books? List all of them

@@Gloomdrake Maybe even 12 on a good day

@@Romanticoutlaw does "the Lusty Argonian Maid" count?

This shows that you have not even attempted to understand the subject of the video itself

@@ijon-y4549 Big-brain comment right there, lol.

@@ijon-y4549 *pats your head* Sure, buddy.

@@ijon-y4549 and what is it then?

I suppose you could say *fowl* swoop-

There was a boy on the streets who threw rocks at people as they walked past. Diogenes emerged from his barrel and told the boy "careful, son. Don't hit your father." Imagine being a little shit and some homeless dude crawls out of a barrel and lays down the sickest "your mum's a ho" on you so bad people still talk about it millenia later.

Scientologists are instructed to vote Republican due to them usually promising lower taxes. Not that this by itself is an argument for anything, but it's a fun factoid.

Sorry, I don't have enough alcohol.

I dunno, though. It's pretty uncommon to intellectually peak in your mid-teens. You were probably always gonna end up smarter than him regardless.

Well glad you can say used to and congrats big man-hope that journey’s a successful one so far :>

It is indeed whack.

Marxism and Communism by extension is inherently Humanist and Athiest. This is the greatest crime by religious conservatives - the idea any philosophy could claim all people deserving of food and warmth without all the hateful bullshit Christianity has built into itself is a supreme anti-Christ-tier threat to religion. Why to you think the Nazis wanted to pretty much exterminate the Russians? It wasn’t just because of their ethnicity, it was for what they believed in too.

"Communism" just means "evil" to these people. Red Scare culture doing what it does.

Did we watch the same debate

He's an obnoxious spoiled rich kid. Of course he was gonna go right wing.

He clearly meant Allende, and for India, the INC was explicitly socialist and relied mostly on mixed companies and moderate collectivism. The map works for the 60s-70s.

You’re right, that technology has contributed greatly. I think AltHist was specifically referring to the Enlightenment though, which is way before technology really started emancipating women. I kinda get the sense from him that he’d be against actual liberating technologies like birth control as he might consider it as contributing to promiscuity and the decline of morals.

I would say technological developments lay much of the groundworks for womens liberation, yeah. I don’t think that’s what WIAH is referring to

@@HalFromTartary True, he's still a complete moron either way

"He who has the iron make the rules" - Alfred Einstein

The woo is strong with this one

I love how quality of his arguments is on level of Bible literalist apologist he just talk way less about the flood.

@@petrfedor1851 I don’t think he is even a Bible apologist, maybe more a Bible absolutist. In another video he used an image of the Crusaders when talking about “personal honor” - those fuckers were far from honourable

@@jakespacepiratee3740 I was talking about same thinking patterns, specific bs he use as his basis are different :)

No, no modern estimates say this at all. Evidence still shows that agriculture began more or less around 10k BCE.

@@marijkestoll816 "The earliest evidence of small-scale cultivation of edible grasses is from around 21,000 BC with the Ohalo II people on the shores of the Sea of Galilee." - Wikipedia Looks like we're all wrong.

He sounds like someone that slept through every social studies class