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Must be so nice to be these victims and always remembered positivity. Better than living a meangliess life. And if you did leave life or was ended no one would know or remember you like a homeless person. I'm not joking... Especially those who live unfortunate lives that the general public blame it is your own fault then they are a victim if neglect and abuse and have no one.
Thank you Mr brodie I enjoy your videos so much if possible could you consider doing a video about murders in Leicester as I know we have a few off interest ie the green bicycle murder off Bella Wright it was a bit of a mystery for a little while plus I can't remember his name but near Bosworth Leicestershire a man killed his wife and tried to murder his step daughter and was on the gibbet for many years thank you Emma
When you said it was, at times, frustrating, you weren't kidding were you 😲 On a par with Lord Longford campaigning for Myra Hindley's release I'd say. It just goes to show you that titles and degrees don't make you smart!
One thing that amazed me more even than the existence of Speck, was "he spent a month in an oxygen tent, and therefore his brain did not get a chance to develop..." I thought psychiatrists had to have medical training too? Not enough oxygen in an oxygen tent? Dear lord! Worse, the muppet went on to continue that ridiculous tale.
I respect the fact you talked so much about the victims, and mentioned every single one by name. Too many murderers are so much better known than their victims.
Although that would be nice- it'll never happen. Most people are only "significant" to a small group of family, friends, and co-workers. Most are neither extra-ordinary nor "memorable" in any historical way....These serial killers, on the other hand, make certain that their actions in the world are, albeit depraved, "memorable".
Unsurprising that a woman named Corazon had a stronger heart than the authorities thought she might when it came to testifying. That photo of her walking to the courthouse says it all; he brutally tortured and killed her friends and colleagues, and she was going to make sure he paid for it. Good on you, Nurse Amurao.
Why is her name significant? She certainly was strong and courageous. We’ll never know how many women he would have killed if he had gotten away with his crimes but why is it more unsurprising than if she had been named Doris or Samantha or any other name? Do you believe the name Corazon is significant in some way which gave her more strength?
@@vladtheimpala5532 Corazon is Spanish for "heart," honey. Most names have meanings -- they're not just arbitrary syllables strung together. "Vlad," for example, means "glorious ruler." The most famous Vlad, of course, was less than glorious, but be that as it may, many people select names which they hope will influence their children's futures for the better. Asian cultures are famous for it, which is why many fan sites for anime list name etymologies in character profiles. Incidentally, "Doris" is of Greek origin and means "gift of the sea," and "Samantha," obviously the female form for "Samuel," means "told by God," and is Hebrew.
What a monster. Some people are just too twisted up inside and should be locked up permanently, whether in prison or a mental health facility. It doesn't matter if they've suffered such severe trauma that it's not their fault or they don't understand what they're doing; other people still need to be protected from them
@kdallas3966 I didn't say it was, but I wasn't very clear. And I don't think it was in this case - it sounds like to me like he chose to do what he did because he wanted to. But even if a person is really not responsible for their actions, they still need to be in a secure location where other people are protected from them
Although Speck got off death row due to very, very lucky break and lived well into the 80s his fate may have been worse. It had been documented that while in prison he was injected with female hormones and sexually abused until his death.
As a girl I watched that video on national tv. It was disgusting. I didn’t previously know who he was but I hated him ever since. It was a debased debauchery on film, and he was disgusting. RIP to those eight ladies. Stay blessed Corazon Amurao.
I read an article about the doctors who reported their concerns about Corazon Amurao's mental stability, how they said they were worried she might lapse into some kind of psychosis under the pressure of testifying. In the article I read, it was stated that most of the doctors' concerns were based entirely on racist and misogynistic assumptions, saying how her being a woman of Asian descent made her more prone to mental fatigue and collapse than might be a white woman. What a load of crap! She hung in there like a champ!
The men who came up with all that guff about the mental & emotional capacity of women had never spent time with women who'd survived all manner of traumas & griefs. For most women - not those of his class of course - life was literally about blood sweat & tears. Talk about 'takes a licking but keeps ticking'! Women definitely fit that.
@@madoldbatwoman I fully agree with you, though I might have used different wording. But that's what years of doing Rocky Horror Picture Show does to one's mind...😉
She was quick-thinking and level-headed young woman. Without her, it is likely that we would never have heard of Richard Speck. He supposedly muttered "Must've been the LSD" when he was arrested. But I was a student a long time ago, and like almost all the other students in early 1980s UK, I've had some spectacular and some terrifying experiences on LSD, but I never even gave anyone a faint bruise apart from myself occasionally.
In 1968 I did an oral report on amphetamines for my highschool health class. I included Richard Speck as part of the narrative. This monster only became MORE bizarre in prison. 😡
My late mother in law's cousins used to play with Speck when they were kids and his family lived in the Dallas area in Texas. He was a creepy boy to the girls, even back then. He made her skin crawl and she'd run back in the house and read instead of playing outside. Bullying and getting handsy with girls.
The audacity of that scum to have said in the interview, that had one of the nurses not spat on him, they'd be alive. The audacity to put the weight and blame on that innocent woman Thank you for bringing this tragedy to light, may these women's names be remembered
Drinking and doing drugs starting at 12 is likely what caused it, but I spare no sympathy for this disgusting excuse of a man. Those "head injuries" the psychiatrist wanted to defend him on grounds of were likely just inflicted by drunken antics too.
@@MikadoYuma I was on heroin from 15 to 27. Also drank, took Xanax, LSD, just about every type of drug there is. Never killed anyone. That's not what caused it, he would've had some sort of anti social personality regardless.
@@jonnybarnard8578It's usually a combination of many things. If it was only the drugs, especially alcohol, so many more murders would happen. Fortunately, most people aren't so twisted that they'd do such horrible things, no matter if they become addicted or not.
@@jonnybarnard8578 Mental illness/antisocial personality traits are typically considered to be caused by a combination of genetic and environmental factors, yes
this video hit so very close to home. literally and figuratively. i cannot think about this case without crying. eight bright young women with so much potential, so much love to give, so much life left to live, lost forever. families and friends who carried that grief for the rest of their lives. chicago will never forget. Valentina, Merlita, Mary Ann, Suzanne, Pamela, Patricia, Nina, and Gloria will never be forgotten.
Madness has been with us since day one mankind walked the earth. During 1966, it was a year of madness. Vietnam war, crime, and mass murder. Whitman on the Texas tower, Speck in Chicago, and another in Arizona, Smith, who murdered four women and a baby at a hair parlor, shooting each in the head. He said: " I want to be famous like Speck!" He's still in prison. He was 18 at the time of the murderers.
I first hard of this case fromSimon and Garfunkel´s "Silent Night"which was sung against a back ground of the evening news broadcast of Christmas night, 1968. After all these years, the crimes and the wars have changed their names, but the song is, really the same.😞
I recall how “Weekend Update” on Saturday Night Live reported on Richard Speck’s death: “Speck died despite the efforts of a student nurse to revive him with a toilet plunger.”
I was 10yrs old living in Chicago. I was to young for adults to discuss this in front of children. Ive always wondered how he did this evil, how the one surviving nurse got away, and to be sure he couldnt do this again. I dont think i will ever forget this. The first murder on this scale iv ever heard. Thanks for the story, i knew you could find the information.
just before these horrible murders, my aunt's roommate briefly dated him. when he was identified but on the lam, they both had to go into hiding in case he came looking for them bc they were also student nurses 😱 auntie said he was just as ugly and creepy in person as you'd think he'd be.
My ex-boyfriend’s friend’s mother was the teacher of those nursing students. She rarely spoke about the crime, and she continued to have very fond memories of those student nurses. My mom, and her (this happened on July 4th of 1996) had a very lengthy conversation about the crime, and the student nurses; whatever she had told my mom, my mom would not tell my ex, or myself what was said. Rest In Paradise to all those nurses!
Not only did Corazon point Speck out in the courtroom, she got up from the witness stand, walked up to him and pointed. "This is the man". What a woman. The book to read is The Crime of the Century: Richard Speck and the Murders. Very interesting and detailed.
Thank you for actually telling us what happened to the survivor and talked about each of his victims, many channels only mention a survivor once, never says what happened to them long after, just what happened to the murderer! They focused on Speck on the Netflix series Mindhunter, and did a pretty good job with the actor they had playing him, they showed the part where he killed the bird!
I read a true crime book about this guy a long time ago. I'm glad gave his surviving victim so much recognition. So many victims are forgotten. Nicely done!!
Wow, great video and great comments. I grew up 1/2 a block away and passed the townhouse every day. It changed me forever, I was 10 years old. The beautiful neighborhood of Jeffrey Manor was never the same after that. I became a psychiatric social worker and think this crime led me in that direction. Very excellent presentation.
This case serves as a tragic example of why you should never co-operate with someone who has taken you captive, even if they claim to not wish you harm.
Nothing could have predicted what would happen to them. If he had intended to rob and leave, they did the right thing. Your comment is a little too close to victim blaming. Remember this was the 60s, long before the high profile serial killers that were discovered later. The case is famous because it is exceptional, in most other circumstances it would have passed off as a robbery.
No it doesn't, always remember that people are individuals and unique. They have common treats, but that doesn't mean you can predict much. He apparently was calm at first and this strengthened the women's idea that cooperating worked.
Not always. Lisa Mcvey was a 17 year old kidnapped by serial killer Bobby Joe Long. She complied - offering to be his secret girlfriend - and he actually let her go. She is an amazing, brave lady who went on to have a successful career in law enforcement.
Thank you for speaking more about the victims, especially Corazon, who was a survivor and so brave, to tell the court the stories of her friends who couldn't speak anymore. It sounds like she has a good Life, despite the horror.
I was 13 when this happened and still remember the headline in the LA Times "8 Student Nurses Murdered." How the hell do human beings get wired so differently from one another? I mean does a dolphin suddenly decide to murder a bunch of other dolphins?
@malina1239 . Please don't be ashamed. You did end up leaving, though. That's all that matters. I left my ex after 3 months of marriage. I struggled with my decision to leave vs. being ashamed of such a short marriage. I decided that I would rather be free & alive.
@@tamibennett8683 we have something in common! I left my unstable abusive husband after 3 months. I met him at church!! I have never looked back. We both did the right thing and Malina too. Take care
Your narrative skills are perfect. Your voice is soothing, yet, dramatic at just the right junctions. I learn so much more with your charming (although the subjects are horrible and true) delivery than any others I have watched. You are not fake in any way which is very refreshing. I sincerely thank you for your time and efforts.
I saw this story on a tv true crime show. Don't recall which one. I love the way this is handled here. No tv scripting and such. Wonderful job. Thank you for treating those ladies like people and not just his victims.
Years ago, my supervisor (a nurse) told me about this incident. You see, she was one of the nurses in the dorm next door. The discussion came up when I asked her if she would teach me how to pray the rosary. She ended up giving me a rosary, the very one she had under her pillow all while attending nursing school, and the night of the murder of her fellow nursing students. It was a rosary her mother had given her when she went on a pilgrimage to Medjugorje, where the miracle of the Virgin Mary happened, and it (the rosary) was blessed there.
I dated a fellow whose police brother was on scene not long after the nurses were found. The stories he told were horrific. Officers don't get paid enough to ever have to face what he did.
a very close family friend, Judy Dykton, was friends with the girls and actually saw the crime scene. she never spoke about it, we knew not to ask. she never mentioned anything about college or her time living there. she was haunted for the rest of her life. i hope she found some peace. we miss you Judy, you can finally rest.
I was visiting my aunt in Chicago the night of this crime; I was ten years old. News of this took over the local television channels for days. I remember trying to sleep while the sounds of the city night, sirens, traffic etc kept me buzzed with terror. Remember, this was before it became common. The awful enormity of Speck's crime was the worst thing anyone ever heard of. It was huge!😮
I live in a town in the western suburbs of Chicago called Carol Stream. There’s a road that runs through the town called Schmale road. Not many people know it’s named after one of the student nurses who was killed by Richard Speck that horrible night. It’s her family’s home town. I drive on the road almost every day, and since I m familiar with the story, I think about it a lot.
I was eleven that summer in Chicago. My aunt was a nursing student in the downtown area at the time. I'll never forget being absolutely terrified for her safety. Those young nursing students had such a bright future ahead. RIP bright angels.
A case so shocking it lives in infamy. I still always wonder, however, how eight women against one drunk man were not able to overcome him despite him having a knife only.
In the late 70's I had a job at Lake & Peoria in Chgo just blocks away from the Star Hotel. I was 11 when Speck did this horrific crime but it was all over the news for weeks on end, so when I saw the Star Hotel in that area years later, I knew right away who had stayed there after his massacre of the 8 nurses. This crime stuck in my mind even after 12+ yrs later. And then even further on, I did in fact see the Bill Kurtis mini-documentary with that film footage of Speck and his buddy inmates getting high and etc. And was disgusted that he had been allowed to live and even have fun in prison. To the bleeding hearts out there that think there shouldn't be a death penalty; shame on you all, for keeping such a monster alive to mock those women he slaughtered. 😠
@Smorgasboard I’m not sure how much you researched about the video of him or his time in prison,But don’t think for one moment Speck didn’t get some justice in prison! I take solace in the fact that Speck was crying like a baby in fear when he got to prison. Almost immediately he was attacked and gRAPED often, until he agreed to become a “prison wife” to convicts for protection. He was pimped out and forced to take illegal hormones to grow breasts, as to be more appealing to the convicts that had him. Specifically in that video he was made to wear black womens underwear and show the camera before being ordered to get on his knees give an inmate oral. You may think that his laughter and sick responses in that video meant that he seemed to have gotten off easy. But just know, Speck had come to accept his fate, but was not happy. All his family that he had depended on had long abandoned him. He was nothing more than what he had viewed women to be when he was out on the streets and probably worse. Had he not coward and surrendered to being tossed around prison bunks, surely he would have been massacred long before his death. But hey, maybe death would have been more just than years of torment and humiliation.
Being locked up for life is more of a punishment if you ask, and it is less of a punishment for the sometimes completely innocent families of these killers who might still love them. It also prevents the many innocent people from being killed unjustly. Bad enough that some are locked up for decades. Don't care if you call me bleeding heart or get mad. We don't have to agree.
The rage we felt at the time is still there . I hate it that he got medical care at Silver Cross hospital from nurses and had a good time at Statesville . This is also part of the pro criminal movement using any excuse from the side effects of drug use to vague childhood incidents dredged up . What ticked me off was psychiatry was used as a aid. It’s a movement away from normalcy as the expectation. He can rot in hell .
I was the same age, do you remember that horrible headline with all the pictures of them in a row? That whole situation terrified me, and I remember being afraid for years that something like that would happen to me. It was certainly a rude awakening to what the real world could be like.
Sometimes I feel like I'm "programmed" for compassion and empathy; I can't imagine what would have to happen-psychologically, developmentally, or otherwise-to take it out of me. But then I consider stories like this of people who just don't seem to have an ounce of it and I wonder if maybe it wouldn't take so much as I think. The bird anecdote upset me, especially. I think it's because, in it, Speck displayed the capacity to nurture and care for something delicate-and had no qualms about throwing it away without an ounce of emotion when it no longer suited him.
I remember the episode of Mad Men that vaguely orbited this event. It happened around the same time as some race riots in many places including NYC, and on the show it was used to illustrate how black and white Americans kind of lived in different worlds: the white New York women were worried about a single mass murderer hundreds of miles away, while the black New York women were worried about violence in their actual neighborhood.
@@oneoflokis Yeah, but on the show it was like, all of these white women in New York were obsessing over these murders that happened in Chicago, while their black co-worker decides to sleep at the office because she's afraid to go home because of violence that was happening in her neighborhood, in NYC, that the white people barely acknowledged, because it wasn't happening in their own neighborhoods.
Oh my gosh 😮 what a horrible man. How he tortured those poor nurses goes bejond my imagination, absolutely disgusting to say the least. Why is it that people with psychology problems aren't treated before they go on to commit heinious crimes. Only once they commit these crimes do they jump to get them help. Thanks for sharing 👍👍
I'm familiar with this story but the fact that you mentioned his background and childhood really made it more interesting. Thank you for your great narration.
I was 11 years old when this happened. It was the first horrific crime I ever heard of and it haunts me to this day. I realized there really are monsters and they take human form.
What a "despicable," man Richard Speck was. I remember this case about how he horrifically murdered eight student nurses. My late mother was a nurse and these murders really affected me personally. I was thrilled to hear that they had one student nurse who survived this because she was able to testify against him for this horrific massacre. Great investigation and presentation, too. Take care 🦋
"In Chicago Richard Speck, accused murderer of nine student nurses, was brought before a grand jury today for indictment. The nurses were found stabbed an strangled in their Chicago apartment." Silent Night/ Seven O'clock News Simon and Garfunkle
I understand that it couldn’t have been easy for a single mom in the 1950s, and I don’t want to judge someone else’s choices, butI have to ask, how does someone look at a hard drinker with a lengthy criminal record and think “I must marry him!”
Ah why have I only just found this channel?! I love the way you describe everything and the manner in which you speak, It helps my ADHD brain retain information so my better. Thank you for the interesting cases :)
I really like the way you covered this. I'd heard of it before, and knew there was only one survivor, but never a out the potential victim who was saved by her friends. All together well done, thank you.
Mr Brodie, thank you for this. Very interesting. I also listened to the interview link and transcript, something I don't usually do, but your recommendation piqued my interest. I enjoy your page very much. Thanks, again
I was a young girl living in Sherman Texas when Richard Speck murdered or assaulted all of those young nurses. It was especially terrifying to me because my mother was a nurse who was working at the Wilson-Jones hospital there in Sherman Texas. 😱😱😱😳😳😳
I was born in 1970 and raised on the South East Side of Chicago. My mother (R.I.P.) used to tell me about this story. I was born at South Chicago Hospital. When I visit the East Side occasionally, I will pass by that townhouse. ...so sad!.... What a scary time and place in those days.
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I was nine years old when these murders occurred. Back then, our family took two newspapers: the Los Angeles Times in the morning and a local Pomona paper in the evening, so we read about these murders morning and night for months. Speck was the first multi homicide I remember reading about and he dominated the evening news. I was just the right age to absorb it all. It was frightening.
I remember this case so well. And the early 1980s I worked briefly for an attorney in Winnetka, IL, who assisted the lead attorney who defended Richard Speck, the Attorney’s last name was Getty. The attorney I worked for had a 0:07 Anyway, he did tell me that he had had some interactions with Speck, and that he was a completely depraved and terrifying individual.
