The Wild and Wacky Tale of Dean Ambrose (Jon Moxley) in WWE 

I wish they would collab again sometime. Austin talking with him about leaving WWE and his new life in AEW with occasional bouts in Japan and how things have changed as a family man and sober parent

@@richborn6700 AWE aew the company where the wash up wwe guys go

@@jrock69 You drones are always right on queue 😂 It’s not like WWE’s top babyface right now is one of those “washed up guys” who rose to prominence after leaving WWE right?

@@jrock69 Funny how the "washed up WWE guys" usually tend to do better in AEW than WWE, isn't it? It's almost like WWE washes people up because it doesn't know how to use talent when it gets it. WWE made Dean Ambrose a joke, AEW made Jon Moxley a megastar. Even Chris Jericho is having one of the best runs of his entire 30+ year career in AEW after WWE completely dropped the ball on him.

I recall Mox saying he specifically asked the producers to not discuss his childhood and had a few topics he didn’t want touched. And one of the first things brought up (through no fault of Austin) was his childhood and Mox immediately shut off after that. Which lead to the massive dumpster fire it was. Idk if Austin still does a podcast but I really feel those two need to have an interview again at some point

Maybe, Joshua.

Not in his defense- listening to Moxley yammer about anything is an excruciating experience… but I guess if you like his wrestling, he must come off as a nobel laureate poet…

@Charlie F sorry you feel that way mate.

@@therealangelalexander1858 I know… I wish I felt different, but to each his own I guess. :/

​@@str.77I see what you did there 😂

Even though he was thrown under the bus i enjoyed his 2013-2017 run.

Dean was better

same bro, i loved Dean Ambrose but they just kept screwing him over and over again, hopefully when Jon Moxly comes back to WWE (its eventually gonna happen) they book him properly and make him an unbeatable force.

​@@alizali2223 I dont think he will. He seems to HATE WWEs creative process

Unfortunately, Jonathan Good enjoys trashy hardcore wrestling. He needs WWE to discipline him, otherwise he'll just bleed every match. It's not that he isn't talented, he's just... let's put it this way... not the smartest guy arround

That’s deep. Absolutely true though.

The closest we ever got to Moxley in WWE was that championship match against HHH (fastlane I think).. Limb targeting, stalking Trips while he was on top.. Probably my favorite singles match of his in WWE

Yea just tell the story to yourself because Tony can't book for shit

And now he completely sucks. He's just terrible.

@@grammysworld5449 That's such an overlooked and underrated match. Also, I really enjoyed his last man standing match with KO at the 2016 Royal Rumble. I'm not usually a fan of LMS matches but that was a really well executed one. People also forget he was the first opponent in John Cena's US Championship open challenge and really set the tone for that entire concept. He had some excellent moments but man he was held back far too much for someone of his charisma and ability. Here's the thing, it's not like he had to do a bunch of extreme matches or anything. If Vince had just let him execute the original concept Jon had for the character of Dean Ambrose after The Shield broke up, which was a facsimile of John McClane, it would've been amazing. Vince just couldn't help himself though. He had to give him the wacky shit. What's worse is Vince really thought Dean was popular because of that wacky shit and not because the audience saw the potential behind the nonsense.

Ambrose was the leader of the group, that's why he got the singles title. I don't think that necessarily means Ambrose was initially planned for the biggest push

@@ClaraFinn Only the guy meant to get a singles push would be positioned as the leader, right? Like Barrett was for the Nexus?

Roman was ALWAYS pegged to be the star of the group, I suspect that's why Vince shot down Chris Hero's involvement in the first place. Dean was simply the leader of the group because he was the best for it at the time of the Shield's debut considering Roman was BY FAR the greeenest of the group and he wouldn't have worked in that role early on. Once Roman started to come into his own in Early 2014 he became The Shield's de facto leader.

@@ritangshubhattacharya1654 Not necessarily. While it’s not what they ended up doing, a surefire way of building a great new babyface star is have them rebel against the domineering heel leader of their stable. Ambrose being a heel leader of the shield who treats Reigns like shit and soon causing the fans to organically start cheering for Reigns could’ve been a great way to start his face run with him eventually turning on Ambrose. I think a lot of people expected Ambrose to be the heel and Rollins/Reigns faces post breakup.

Ambrose was not set up to be the breakout star of the Shield. They gave him the US title because it is a mid-card title and that's how they saw him, as a mid-card talent who could also be put in main event spots when needed. They never wanted him to be the main event star though. It was always Roman Reigns, and then Seth won them over eventually to get the push first while they worked the fans up for Roman. They always saw Dean as the lesser of the three. It was obvious who the fans thought was the star, but Vince doesn't care what the fans think. He wants to shove whoever he personally wants to be the face of the company down everyone's throats lol.

Well in fairness WWE normally doesn't publicly announce that someone is leaving or hold a f***ing PPV that was called 'The Final Chapter' designed to send said talent off. Hell 90% of wrestling promotions on the whole normally don't advertise that a talent is leaving the promotion unless said talent is retiring. "The Shield's Final Chapter" remains one of the most bizarre shows they've ever done especially in hindsight of Johnathan Good going to AEW.

Long term story tell. Just wait for the ultimate pay off. 😌😌🤣🤣🤣

Alot of people always thinks it's a work whenever someone leaves

Fans always think everyone leaving is a work. Remember when everyone was saying Cody Rhodes leaving aew was a work.

Speak for yourself

A sad, lonely, Vince, in a dimly lit office, watching that episode of Double Dare with Gorilla and The Brain on a ten dollar television that still has knobs and dials.

Considering Vince's secret obsession with Mighty Mouse, that wouldn't surprise me.

Mox: are you callin me a liar? Bray: i ain't callin you a truther!!

@@dr.snakes 😆😆

but it was SUCH GOOD SHIT, PAL!!

You're one hundred percent right I was there Buffalo New York

Still waiting for the one on Mr. Kennedy. Kennedy.

This might be a stupid question but what the May 19th reference?

@@howardsimcox5596 it’s a Kane reference. His movie See No Evil came out on May 19th and the E did an entire angle where anytime someone said that date (May 19th!!) Kane went crazy. It was an infamous angle but kinda fun.

I missed these kind of videos

Billy Kidman soon i am no longer asking!!!!🙏

2k19 was his last WWE game apperance. He's probably gonna be in AEW fight Forever.

@@nehemiahpouncey3607 if it ever comes out

There was more to it, I think AJ Lee would've eventually been his sidekick like Harley Quinn.

@@GBTwelveSixteen Yes, it did come out that he would've then debuted as AJ's loony mate and feud with Bryan.

What the May 19th reference, I feel stupid 4 not knowing

I was a huuuuuge Ambrose fan during this time. I was a teenager and freaked out when he won the MitB and the title

Honestly, being reminded how he was winless and just falling short for a while had me thinking how did I manage being an Ambrose fan for such a long time. I guess it just had to do with the fact he was my favorite member of the Shield and I believed in them pushing him to be a big name like Seth and Roman are right now. I feel like if the cards are played right and when Mox feels like it’s time to come back to the E, they can have the former trio face off one last time for the Tribal Chief’s championship and determine who is the true face of the Shield

He was more talented than Rollins and Reigns but wwe ignored him

Hearing some of his points just remind me how bad I wanted dean to win and he just wasn’t able too

That one was shot on a cell phone so that’s the main reason the video was bad.

@@thetribalist6923 Exactly. People got lazy in the 2010s, and early mobile technology wasn't great either, so now there's a decade of early 21st C. time where everything on video looks wonky and hard to watch and visually horrible because hardware hadn't caught up to file-sharing, streaming, multimedia transfer etc. It's weird, sometimes you'll find much higher and smoother quality transfers from pristine 90s/early 2000s tapes than you will from the late 200s/early mid 2010s.

Your average early 2010s cell phone quality wasn't that great. Most people had barely just started getting smart phones around that time.

What WWE could have done for him instead of pushing Roman

@@ericthomas917 I wish he would have won the 2015 Rumble.

He was a pink haired jobber in WWE.

Gotta cut that strong stuff with a ton of water, pal... We ain't doing this for the fans, it's about the stock price! Get them profits up $$$

@@ericthomas917 Moxley has seen what the WWE wanted to do for him and he left. He hated the WWE creative and the scripted BS. It has nothing to do with Roman.

They fought for the title on both the Smackdown and Raw before Battleground, with the first one ending in a no contest after a double pin.

🔥

2015 til the thunderdome ended was the absolute worst creative has been in the history of the wwe

@@heyyoitsmebrian Nah, 2016 was one of the company's best years creatively. Smackdown during the first 7 months of the brand split was must-watch, and Raw wasn't too bad either. Hell, I'd even say that things started getting good the night after Wrestlemania 32, with a fantastic Roman-Styles program for the belt as well as a great IC title scene shared between Miz, Zayn, Owens, and Cesaro.

@@aidanator8008 i think youre conflating "creative" with roster. just because the IC title scene has guys you like in it, doesnt mean that "creative" is good. there are def plenty of matches from 2016 that are amazing, but im not going to give "creative" any credit

How? I get if you're poking at certain storylines. But with how you've worded your comment, it'd be as if he won NO titles. When at a point, he went from Money in the bank, to WWE title, to IC title, to then tag titles, and tag titles again, then the IC title again. Again, I get his last story was poor. But he was constantly in title pictures. Stuff that some wrestlers could only dream of. Beforehand, I'd say yeah, it looks bad. But during that run, he was constantly involved in title, after title.

Jon Moxley wouldn't work in wwe they wouldn't let him be himself at all thy would want him to turn it down

lol zoomer

I think he gets inducted solo too. Probably won’t be the main event induction but I can’t think of a world champ that hasn’t gone in the Hall.

When you look back at his CZW tapes etc. it's completely insane he was ever considered employable by the company at all. His resume is absolutely not what they typically look for or want. I would be interested to know what the behind-the-scenes negotiations were like to bring him in and spit-shine him for Vince's appraisal.

He signed a massive contract renewal last Fall and even has an official behind the scenes role in AEW now. Definitely do not expect to ever see him inside a WWE ring again until that induction.

Brian is a jam-up guy

@@trunter20 He's got the jam, unlike some dirty, stinkin' hyenas might wanna say

That's a great way to put in. Jon Moxley was in that Wade Barret category in which he was a Charmeleon that would never be a Charizard.

Current Moxley has no dimensions to his character or his matches. Jon Moxley on the Indies had a fleshed out character with dynamic promos, telling really interesting stories. He was a believable character of an unhinged guy who had a tough upbringing. He is now just a recovering alcoholic who has replaced booze with razor blades and thinks he's Stone Cold.

@@jackhughes7637 Yeah I agree, one has to wonder if he has any passion left. LIke he will say he does, but his work has been awful for a year and half. He doesn't sell, he doesn't cut promos. He just runs a group with no purpose...

@@athanaskozhuharov9700 Exactly... The guy lost the thing that was driving him when he was in his 20s

@@jackhughes7637 you can blame WWE for that. he lost the passion and motivation after Wrestlemania 32

very mature of him to act out because he couldn't talk about his drug abuse 🙄

That and they mentioned his childhood which he was not okay with so he shutdown

@@megsley huh?

must've been frustrating that sc was probing him with personal questions constantly, knowing that he couldn't really answer honestly

Proof Ziggler can make anyone look good

The shield was on the final issue of WWE Magazine. They even became jerks of the month.

@@nehemiahpouncey3607 checks out

@@pendafen7405 like how on their jerks of the month photo they look like they Were bout to kill the guy taking the Photo.

It was a misunderstanding and he apologized to Mick and they are on good terms now

@@zarinshapurjee9430 Exactly. Mox even said he felt really bad because Mick thought he was just being an ass and ignoring him

Wardlow's TNT championship reign

@@730F-Sport I said boring not disappointing.

Thanks for being a fan all these years! So much of what I learned about video editing, I learned in Allen Hall 😄

WWE and Vince are petty like that, they even almost had Dean feud with Nia Jax for fucks sake

never? zack ryder? kaval/lowki? when he won nxt season 2. theyll make anyone look like shit if they dont mentally break u and turn u into a kiss ass

For what it's worth, the fans refused to boo him despite the nonsense booking he received towards the end. Surely didn't help that AEW was preparing to launch at the same time and there were lots of rumors of some WWE talent wanting out before Double or Nothing that year.

it is their typical character assassination when someone is WAY MORE POPULAR than their chosen one.

@@Venom-lr3sq it’s almost like they book good by accident and then try to fix it with bad booking 😂😂😂😂

Yea Competent booking makes a big difference, doesn't it

Wonder why we never got gasmask Dean on 2k19? We were still stuck with tank top dean.

@@nehemiahpouncey3607 Too late, but there was enough time to update his model with the new look from August. Don't know why they didn't.

@@dukesilver9704 thanks to community Creations we got it.

And keeps trying to get the football players to punch him in the stomach to prove how tough he is.

Do you blame him for that ?

Mox is actually the closest to who Jon really is

Nope

Who can forget the Nope and the ever present _Lunatic Friiiiiiiiinge_ being shouted every 20 seconds

Nope

@@kyle2095 before Jordan Peele

It was Jericho's idea to have a potted plant for his feud with Dean so they stole one from an office block at an arena

He started having much better promos as Moxley but it also dialed up all of the wannabe stone cold mannerisms up another 100%. I'm not really into his work when he's too silly or hardcore.

That is a scaldingly hot take, and one I can’t take seriously. Much less hot, though, is your justification. Somebody should set up a swear jar, where you need to pay money every time you make a joke about Mox bleeding a lot.

if we got Ambrose vs Foley with both men allowed to do unscripted promos, it would have been godlike.

And what character is that? Alcoholic bum who blades every match? Trash

Agreed. I thought Styles was amazing when he showed up. He had these cool moves like the calf crusher. I wished WWE would push him more and give him one more main event run. He could have feuded with Regns. He has been booked to lose a lot since he returned to RAW in 2019.

Everything in WWE is meant to do that