The Witcher 3 Next-Gen Patch 4.02 - The Best It's Ever Been - PS5 vs Xbox Series X/S 

They’re like an all-star QA team.

They spend over 2 years for this next gen patch. They are i competent if they only fix stuff when DF tells them the obvious

And broke the game on PC where it crashes after 5 to 20 minutes. Thos game is even in a worst state than The Last Of Us on my PC. No mater the settings the game stutters and crashes often and has tons of pop-in (assets, shadows and SSR ) The version 1.32 is far superior to this.

and when devs make a remaster for free and work hard to patch it when some devs dont even fix the original game :o

@@degenplanet And people still rolling on the floor crying

If only they did it with more games instead of only this one.

I heard u can play constant 60fps if u don’t update?

Shit

Its pretty good

It’s shit, the cpu utilization is still garbage.

Digital Foundry wouldn't know what a PC analysis is if it hit them in the face.

@@Relex_92 what about the stutter with Frame Generation when you go to the menu or open the map?

Can i get 60fps on hdmi 2.0? 60hz tv?

@@indo3052 yeah for sure. It won’t be completely locked to 60 but it will be close.

Yea it just goes to show it’s worth waiting awhile after release. Most games just aren’t worth getting as soon as they come out these days

@@indo3052yep you’ll get it on hdmi 1.0 too

@@indo3052yes…

Context? They will absolutely, sooner or later, bring a remake/remaster

@@Novskyy621 probably later

To a game tha didnt sold that great. Its a great game but a niche one,a game that fanboys bragg about it but never played it saddly

Because Bloodborne is not a live service game. You get what you paid for. FromSoftware used that time to create 3 new incredibile games, imagine us not getting Elden Ring, Sekiro, or DS3 just because the whole team was relegated to create patches and keep one specific game ""alive"". I'm not a fan of this aproach. Just release finished games and then move on to something else. I don't know why CDPR changed this much.

Just make a 60 fps update.

The TV series really gave it a 2nd life

Because they are not releasing anything else.... They just go the route of live service games. To milk one game as much as possible before making a new one. Fuck live service games.

For some reason tried this game but wasn't able to get into it. But for another reason RDR2 first chapter was longer and boring but still got me interested. Maybe I should try Witcher 3 later

@@simulify8726 Absolutely give it another shot. The reason you initially weren’t able to get into it was probably the combat, but they’ve added many more improvements to make it more playable and enjoyable.

​@@simulify8726 first tried the game in 2017, within 2 hours,I quit. However, I gave it a second try in 2020. Absolutely amazed by the script of the game in my second try. Spent 1 month to clear every quest❤ Its quests are all equipped with interesting stories. You should definitely give it a shot if you are into good storytelling games😊

25 is amazing value. The game is about 100hrs with dlc

@user-cf5uc2xd3mno it’s not. The specs are near identical

😊

Thanks

Xbox x and ps5 always seem to be almost identical to me when I play either console. I doubt most people could tell which version they’re running. The hardware is pretty much identical

​​​@@j0nnyismproblem is the default colors who are too washed up on PS5, you need to change the color settings to have good colors on PS5 Altough PS5 has better foliage and draw distance So the better version is PlayStation if you fix the color settings

I did it with 4 hundred. A long road awaits for you witcher.😅

360 hours lol

I never played it 😅 On my frist play through

How? Even if you do all the quests and upgrades, it doesn't take half of this time

Ps5? Ew you can’t even play Witcher 2 on that

Oh yeah! His voice is very soothing, I really like his videos! Now Dave on the other hand... snorefest.

I actually don't like him nearly as much as the other reviewers. He allows his preference for PlayStation to come through a lot. I don't get the same feeling from the rest of the team other than Alex for PC, but that makes sense as he supposed to make PC specific content.

Tom didn't even test all of this on his own, neither did he write the script himself. He mostly just reads it.

Me too

❤

lucky i put in 360 hours on base xbox 1

@@razorbackroar why

@@chriswright8074 because the games old and originally came out on those consoles first???? i also originally played on the OG xbox one, now PS5.

nor are the blurry faces during dialogue and cutscenes-- PS5 version has been incredibly frustrating

it also looked like flickering in the early game cutscene is a problem on PS5 - it just looked absolutely off. seen around 9:52 in the vid

I have these issues... the menu screen glitch, the blurry faces, clouds flickering all the time in toussaint... sad

Nothing wrong with 40fps as long as it's with a controller and appropriate motion blur settings etc are employed

@@Vsprivate not with a 40 FPS cap. Setting a FPS cap is legitimate way of saving money and electricity 🙂

To be honest, 40fps is fine to play a singleplayer game in ultra! thats what i want an consoles too… they should atleast make 4 graphics mode in any game in my opinion, one with fps open to 120fps, performance mode with 60fps, a quality mode with 30fps and one „quality balanced“ mode with 40fps for those who have an VRR Monitor… they should drop things like shadow quality from „extreme high“ to only „high“ or a little less view in draw distance or something that‘s fine by me, but please make the quality mode to 40fps… I like singleplayer games in the best graphics who are possible, but i want a smooth experience too and target 40fps would be perfect in this case! That’s my biggest problem in the most games, 60fps is smooth, but the graphical upgrade to the quality 30fps mode is big… but 30fps is a little too stuttery and doesn’t feel smooth enough… Look what hogwarts legacy has done… the „balanced“ Mode was really perfect for a singleplayer game like this! Looked almost as nice as the 30fps mode, but with 40-45fps in average with an VRR Monitor it was really the best singleplayer experience which i got in an console game till this day…

Interesting, I've only ever heard people play at 30 or 60, never even thought a midway point was an option but of course it is!

@@ApfelSgt. 40 fps locks are an upgrade for 120hz monitors, not necessarily for VRR screens. In fact, PS5 VRR doesn't even work below 48 fps.

didn't feel laggy to me

I noticed that too with the RT mode in Doom Eternal on PS5, it had so much input lag

Didn’t notice it with 2016 but eternal with rt definitely added some input lag

I didn't notice any lag on my One X with Dome 2016. And I play on Ultra-Violence difficulty.

@@razorbackroar On PS4/5 it's much better but on Xbox One/Series it's pretty delayed, especially when you remove the aim acceleration or 'smoothing'. Back in 2016 I played it on PS4 and didn't really notice, but now it stands out like a sore thumb, especially when us console players have finally been exposed to higher framerates.

I have a 5900X too and I've noticed that when limited to 30 fps, the game finally doesn't drop frames anymore, which is good. Still no way to get stable 60 fps tho as soon as at least one ray tracing effect is enabled, even though the busiest CPU core barely goes over 80%. Interestingly the CPU load doesn't reduce _at all_ when capped to 30; I've even seen 95% on one core, which is _more_ as when capped to 60 for some reason (I've observed this behavior on the last two versions also).

​@@NeovanGoth Well it also depends on the overall settings and the GPU.

​@@GameslordXY No it doesn't, at least not on my system. I have an RTX 4090 and performance doesn't change at all when choosing different DLSS settings or lowering resolution. It's purely CPU limited.

the older version ran on CPUs from a decade ago. Quite absurd to me, that “running fine on a CPU from around half and a year” is now the bar for broken overhaul updates

@@matthias6933 Admittedly, having real-time ray traced global illumination would have been completely unthinkable a decade ago. ;) But yes, The Witcher's engine originally wasn't built to scale well on many CPU cores, CDPR apparently uses a DX11-to-DX12 wrapper (to enable support for FSR/DLSS and ray tracing) that has a lot of CPU overhead, and building the BVH structure isn't cheap either. In combination with more geometry, denser foliage, and so on, it becomes extremely heavy even for contemporary CPUs.

Welcome to 202x.

you shouldnt be. This performance should be expected at launch. Not 4 months later. Anyone that cared to play the game over again in new game + or for their first time, already played it after the first 2 patches. They've brainwashed you into thinking this is okay behaviour. Its 4 months late buddy

Apparently that was an issue only for people who upgraded from the One X version. Something about the game importing the One X vegetation setting? Which is why some reviewers on Series X experienced it and some didn’t. Really weird bug

@@lorankatoran8856 Ah interesting, thx for letting me know.

Yeah, now the Series X version is the best one pretty much in everything

​​​​​@@lorankatoran8856funny..i upgraded from one x version but draw distance was alright from the beginning only some type of grass was loading too late until i saved and loaded that location...now in patch 4.02 most of it is repaired but still some places are bugged until now..so its a bug that is not even consistent😂 only cdpr can do this😂i also tried delete and install new version and started new game but the same behavior remained

I think if you are patient and allow yourself to get dialed in with the combat it will really pull you in. I had the same experience the first time I played, but when I gave it another shot I refused to quit until I’d at least gotten thorough the opening region and at some point it just clicked. Other than inventory management I now love every aspect of it, including the combat.

Honestly, I bought it on sale and didn't care much for it... Until I played through the Witcher 2, and it finally clicked. I started 3 with a lot more knowledge, both of the world and its characters as well as gameplay mechanics. Also the slower worldbuilding made more sense, at least to me.

@@kiaraneves8852 yeah I agree with that. I already had the Witcher two and it really does give the story better context.

You lucky bastard. All these new updates i want to start a new save but then again i completed the game like 10 times throughout the years.

I've tried about 5 times now and it just feels like a chore. Even the voice acting seems so dull.

They might not be having the issue. Not everyone has the same bugs

Try rebuilding your database on PS5. I've seen that few people mention this as a fix for weird graphical issues.

@@WickedRibbon I just tried that and it still persists. It's not exactly a pop-in but more likely assets are changing while I move, whether it be rock and foliage. I uploaded a sample video on my channel.

@@WickedRibbon That's just the way it is with Tom, and his PlayStation bias. if there is an issue on PS5 there is a good chance he will not bring it up if xbox doesn't have it as well. In the past I have bought the PlayStation version of games based on his videos just to find out the capture was cherry picked.

I'm having foliage pop in across the board.. might need to reinstall

This HEAVILY depends on your hardware. I'm getting more than what you're asking for with a 4090 at 4K already, for example, meanwhile I have no clue what hardware or res you're even playing with.

@@TheUltimateBlooper How much you pay for your 4090?

@@brainrot4919 My 4090 is the FE model and I paid the UK MSRP of £1599 back in December. I refuse to pay inflated partner prices and I prefer the FE look, so I just buy straight from Nvidia.

@@TheUltimateBlooper How? There's never no cards available when I look on the Nvidia site, I'd love to get a 4080 at MSRP. Also UK here.

@@brainrot4919 man, I don't know why but I posted a reply to you like 5 times, edited and still it kept being deleted by dumb youtube... trying AGAIN, but a super short version (must be because I mentioned particular websites). I basically bookmarked Nvidia's shop and kept checking it randomly as I browsed the net. After about 2 months of random and really not even adamant checking - I found some stock! This worked for me in 2020 when I wanted a 3090 and worked this year for the 4090.

It doesn't seems to be any better after the patch. (Tested with ray tracing and a 5800X3D CPU). Utilization seems to be the same in my case which it was supposed to improve.

@@rileyjelinek3235 Ah damn, guess il stick with DX11 then. Sucks as the RT GI does wonders for the lighting, but the double whammy of being intensive on the GPU and CPU especially kills it for me.

@@219SilverChoc DX11 is actually worse now, in fact it runs worse than the original game with the mods CDPR installed and called an "update".

​@@ItsMeStrider Is it just performance that is worse in DX11, or are there also graphical issues?

@@WickedRibbon there was a lot of pop in issues from far away objects, but not much more, it's mostly stuttering and crashing that's the issue.

Thom/Thomas.

Completely purple? Same on PC

​@@chriscarson4608yes same on xbox

It was like that on Series X as well. Just noting on here for anyone coming across it that this was fixed in patch 4.03 I believe. DF did not do a recap on that one.

Ratchet and Clank is only a simple linear game.

Then that's the devs also not only how big the game is

They are being paid by RU-vid

Neon Knight did a video on the PC version & it's not good at all

It’s an undertaking. I don’t have as much time as I used to. Took me two weeks to finish the game when it first came out (without DLC). I started a new game in December and I’ve only just started the blood and wine DLC. 😂 It’s well worth it though. On top of it being pretty on the eye (especially Toussaint) the characters, the world, the writing. Amazing.

Nobody knows if there will ever be a 4.04 ... and if there should be one, I certainly would prefer them to fix the game breaking bugs that can hit anytime during a playthrough with this mess of an update.

@@uteausmunchen7235 There is a 4.04 and they fix the grass but I cant see any difference...

To be a bit more realistic: They worked together with Netflix when deciding to update and including Netflix stuff in the hope to increase sells of Witcher 3. In the end they messed up the game with the Next Gen update, especially the PC version ... so they simply had to fix at least the most urgent problems (like the game now crashing every few minutes on some PCs). Witcher 3 is - despite its age - still their cash cow. Alas after 8 months now they were still not able to restore the game to its former reliability. The game still is full of absolutely game breaking bug that destroy the playthrough for many players. This "Next Gen" is a sad chapter of the story of a masterpiece of a game ... and can very well be its final chapter, if they will not be able to fix what they did.

I think there's just an absurd amount of work Alex has to put into his videos to try to plow them out for smaller tier things like this. I bet Tom got this done in one or two work days - no way a PC video would be that quick

Entry vs medium vs high hardware configs would be entirely subjective. I think how they do it and highlight the software strengths is as good as they can go. I mean, a Steam Deck might be a valid addition to their reviews, as that is a set hardware spec able to run the PC games. It's pretty much a console.

I’ve been wondering the same thing I have the same rig

@@imJUSTdusty1 hopefully we could run 60 at 1080p with ray tracing

cpus are too slow for this

@apex sosapex lmao what?this game isn't that demanding..it's just shit optimization..if the ps5 can run gta7 at 120 near 4k or games like cod or warzone..it can run this at 120fps 1080p

@@apexsosapex1014 yeah. Maybe not possible on Series S without going down to 720p and 120fps might be easier on PC

@@Transport4ThatDumpTruck If the next gen version is using RED engine 4 it might have the same limitations as Cyberpunk 2077

All games should have a 120fps mode even if it's 1080p. When mid gen consoles releases , that mode can be patched with an increase in resolution to native 4k or 1800p worst case scenario.

Imagine spending a week making a PC analysis video with console comparisons across PS3, PS4, PS5 and PC, attempting to get optimized settings when a 2080 can only run textures at Medium (worse than PS4) or else it crashes, then scripting, recording, etc the video and then after going through all that work a major patch comes out before the video drops that renders all the work useless

@@callumohare then one could argue the video they made instead is also useless since the version they had shown is ALREADY out of date.

I get clouds flickering all the time in toussaint still... not tô mension the blurry faces in the cutscenes or the Grass flickering

Nope had to basically keep Saving every 5 seconds to pass that mission

Bruh ,these patches shouldnt even be necessary ,they should have released it in a locked 60 fps for new gen consoles consider how much time they stressed for the release

@Lee Jet Sure. Ideally, games would be released in perfect shape. But since that's not happening, the best we can hope for is that a company releases improvement patches soon after instead of taking our money and never addressing the issues.

@@lordspalse0062 I must be neurologically impaired then. Enjoying tf out of RT mode on SX, LG C2 display, playing HDR, look's amazing.

@@brainrot4919 Ok I think that statement I made is a bit of an exaggeration. Honestly I'll take 480p 60fps over 4k 30 with super path tracing

@@lordspalse0062 Honestly 30 fps isn't so bad once you get used to it, and you have the hardware capabilities display wise to smooth it out to a degree. I could never go back to 480p gaming though haha, unless it was by artistic design like all the indie games that have unique art styles or retro art styles and don't require 4k or even 1440p to enjoy them visually.

It should not have been released even in its present state, 8 months after 14th of December 22. It is still so full of game breaking bugs, that it is a mere chance whether You can finish it or run into a game breaker halfway through a playthrough. This "Next Gen" killed the game for many fans.

That might be the depth of field effect (probably) glitching out.

Could be but still isn't fixed I think it was like it on last gen PlayStation consoles as well

I've noticed this when in conversations.

@@legendofgamer1995 Yeah I think it only happens in cut scenes

Its not even that its the next gen version , they just have to lower the resolution a tad bit like 1200p or 1080p at cities like novigrad would run smoothly but developers are soo fixated at shiny high "4k" resolution. Lets hope that the next patch 4.04 fixes it.( because 4.03 didn't 😡)

you can do that on PS5, the PS4 version has a 60fps toggle

You did, you just didn't notice.

@@dan47483 I'm playing on FPS mode on the SX and also, having a great experience, wonder what I'm not noticing?