The WNBA Needs A Wake-Up Call

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The WNBA Needs A Wake-Up Call
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@ronomgenuff Год назад

A very fair and statistically supported video. You're in your own class Treese!

@TREESEhoops Год назад

Wow, thanks man! I'm glad you guys didn't take this video as me "dunking" on the WNBA. I'm a believer in the league. I just can't support the players' level of condescension, entitlement, and dishonesty, especially because it's coming from grown adults. That's probably the biggest thing holding the league back too.

@ronomgenuff Год назад

@@TREESEhoops bro no way, this is one of the most fair videos I've heard on the topic. The truth is that sports are a business and that usually if a business can't find a market it flops. It's so weird that the league will find every reason to blame for their lack of success besides the product. The NBA has changed so much over the years in ways that many fans hate, but the changes bring in views which ultimately = money. I think if the WNBA player were more realistic about the root causes of their shortcomings they could also change their product and see more success!

@neverleft636 Год назад

@@TREESEhoops 100% agree, I feel the same way. I remember a black female anchor on ESPN recently out and out BLAMING BASKETBALL FANS for not watching it, calling it sexist etc. Exactly like what you said. A wake-up call really *is* needed.

@natethomas9981 Год назад

Agreed, as a basketball lover I hope the wnba seeks better success but the way they act is very unprofessional

@jamaaldagreatest2748 Год назад

Don’t let the WNBA fans (I say fans and not feminists because there’s a lot of reasonable and non biased feminists out there) hear you say that a video criticizing the WNBA is fair logical and supported by statistics. They’ll attack you and call you a woman hating misogynist incel. They don’t like hearing the truth about why the league is a failure and just blame men as being sexist instead 😂😂😂

@smokymcpot5917 Год назад

"I deserve my share of my jersey sales". Okay, here's $20.

@SGriTa913 Год назад

😂😂😂

@southpawpanda4447 Год назад

😂😂😂😂😂

@izsan9070 Год назад

🤣🤣🤣

@Profoundobserver Год назад

“You owe me $15” 😂

@nmarkert01 Год назад

No, they’d owe the league money for not selling enough unfortunately for them haha

@ArchieRLib Год назад

The modern WNBA is a great example of what happens when "What we think we deserve" runs up hard against "What we can actually do".

@pottymouth1974 Год назад

They don’t have revenue

@yunan9610 Год назад

They could've lower their pride and do whatever it takes to make their games more exciting to watch. Men and women are biologically different in general. They can use lower rim or so they can dunk more often. Shorten the 3 pt line so they don't have to put much power on their shots and gets better accuracy. At the end of the day, the money comes from the entertainment value

@DemonTime08 Год назад

They should actually give them what they're worth since they want to keep complaining they actually will owe money the NBA supplements their income bro they make great money just to play basketball be grateful and shut up.

@annakquinn7084 Год назад

What is WNBA?

@jordanr1694 Год назад

Here's the problem even if they show them videos like this they still won't see the truth. i'd love to see the WNBA do great and get more people watching, but they need to have a complete reset of the entire brand then comeback, once they get the ratings up then they can talk about money until they do they do that woman's basketball is doomed.

@jimmckay2337 5 месяцев назад

“I deserve a share of my sales.” “Okay, you owe us $23,000” “Wait, what?”

@Puyax01 2 месяца назад

Bill Burr said it best. Woman failed the WNBA, take your side of the Sofa. If WNBA want men to watch the game then you have to hear men’s suggestions. The games are booooooooooooring to us, so lower the damn rim to at least see some dunks.

@DP-eo5xd 21 день назад

Why do men have to watch the WNBA? Women have eyeballs too

@prestigeblue6269 17 дней назад

@@DP-eo5xdbecause women DONT watch women’s sports… are u stupid?

@idk-bl5nt 12 дней назад

@@DP-eo5xd And they don’t use them to watch the WNBA ☠️, men make up a larger percentage of viewers than women do so obviously appealing to men, (the larger view base) is the obvious thing to do. They want dunks, give em dunks.

@snowynoms Год назад

WNBA in 2021 also lost $12.3 million so for a fair share each player would owe the league $83,000

@larrygerry985 Год назад

Lowering the hoops will increase the entertainment. Maybe changing the format. The opportunity is there, you just need to figure out how to get the best athletes to play and how to increase the entertainment

@Vito_Caligiuri Год назад

@@larrygerry985 they don’t want to lower the rims. That’s part of the problem. They feel like once the rims are lowered, it’s proof that the WNBA isn’t as good, or on par with the NBA. Tmac suggested this on ESPN to one of these chicks and she got butthurt.

@toecari Год назад

Isn’t the ball smaller?

@QueeferSutherland1 Год назад

Shirts v Skins....watch revenue skyrocket

@ronlspears Год назад

I’m sorry but there are things that turn off some fans that no one wants to talk about.

@StrongDaddy Год назад

I've never seen a single WNBA jersey out in public, ever in my whole life. No joke

@thatguybill34 Год назад

*Mannnnnn no lie. I've never seen 1 any where. At the store. On the street. In the mall. At Work. At school.*

@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx Год назад

Lmao😂😂 Same

@cookiemang4128 Год назад

No lie what zero percent of zero

@PGLAMB1978 Год назад

I've seen more old Negro league baseball jerseys, and that league has been gone for decades.

@zacksaunders9411 Год назад

I’ve seen more college basketball jerseys then I’ve ever seen WNBA jerseys. I’ve never seen the WNBA jersey I Seymour high school jerseys and I do WNBA jerseys.

@MrSpeed-lt8gr 6 месяцев назад

A friend of mine worked as the producer at the Talking Stick Arena. He gave me a free court side seat for a Phoenix Mercury game. I left at halftime.

@big_dro1713 2 месяца назад

Why did you leave at halftime?

@user-uo5ib1cd1o 2 месяца назад

@@big_dro1713because women’s basketball is boring af

@user-bf7vy3ub9c 2 месяца назад

Not even women that fights for wnba “workers” know wtf wnba is!

@wishtheworldwasdifferent8235 2 месяца назад

@big_dro1713 Check out juat their shooting splits and you would understand why it is so boring. They also make boneheaded mistakes on almost every possession.

@tommyp1584 2 месяца назад

I wouldnt have gone.

@horacehhelmsley9375 5 месяцев назад

I think the NBA should stop subsidizing this shit, and let the "the ladies make them own paper" We most certainly heard "sistas are doing it for themselves" enough

@theexpresidents 4 месяца назад

This comment should get tattooed on their arms.

@bigwill9421 Год назад

"THEY DON'T SELL TICKETS!" -BILL BURR

@catdogky Год назад

If the games were more entertaining, they would sell a lot more tickets. It's certainly worth a try before the league goes bankrupt!

@zelbongrimmage3770 13 дней назад

Facts

@Rinavani Год назад

I’ll give her props on being completely confident in talking about complete nonsense

@Ynkno Год назад

politicians

@Scarhj Год назад

That's all modern females tho

@totallyrandom4816 Год назад

All modern women do this 🤣 🤣 🤣

@MrSatchelpack Год назад

F that. It's hard to debate with people like this. Their heads are so far up their asses that you can even make a valid point without them shooting it down right away. What's worse is if they are vocal enough, they end up influencing others.

@undisputedreflections Год назад

Toolbox and playbook 101 of the feminist or gyno-centric female tactics: The art of telling a lie, is selling a lie as the truth and getting others to believe in your lie.

@lakoncers13 3 месяца назад

I live in Las Vegas. Our WNBA team has won the championship back to back years. When VGK won the Stanley Cup there was more people in the first 10 feet of the parade than there were total at both Las Vegas Aces championship parades combined.

@adamm2787 2 месяца назад

The Houston Comets won 4 championships in a row...8 years later they ceased to exist....

@tommyp1584 2 месяца назад

I live in Vegas and didnt know the name of the team.....let alone could even name 1 player.

@jeffclark7888 2 месяца назад

Go, Golden Knights! And your hockey team is strong again.

@locomixer 2 месяца назад

"we deserve certain % of revenue"... fair enough... how much is the league making?

@smallreddoggy 9 месяцев назад

i think we should just let them be strong and independent and go out of business like they should have.

@chazzitz-wh4ly 8 месяцев назад

That would be a very stunning and brave thing to do, let them stand on their own.

@grega4231 Год назад

I have never seen anyone wear a WNBA jersey in my life. I honestly didn't even think they sold those.

@removebeforeflightgamingth9923 Год назад

Haha you and me both 😂

@TheRealLastJedi721 Год назад

Truly learn something everyday 🤣like where are all the feminist and why aren’t they wearing wnba jerseys

@desmondyap5391 Год назад

MVP comment

@napoleantntgaming5265 Год назад

Yah I just realized I never see them at Dick’s Sporting Goods

@reddeadjuju Год назад

@@TheRealLastJedi721 because most woman don't GAF about the WNBA lol it's ridiculous

@aBumpStop Месяц назад

What you said at the end about them moving to smaller cities away from NBA teams would actually do wonders for the league. Thats exactly why Minor League sports thrives

@Mythendor Месяц назад

revenue sharing does NOT include subsidies so you would make near zero right now!!

@ssj_plugs Год назад

The fact that Steph Curry has more dunks in his career than all dunks in the WNBA Is insane

@sslamd Год назад

They need to lower the rim to 9 feet. The ball size is already an inch smaller than the nba, why not lower the rim 1 foot. Scoring would increase, dunks would increase, interest would increase.

@jgilly223 Год назад

@@sslamdfr, I’m a bigger fan of volleyball than basketball and women’s vb nets are about 6” shorter than men’s nets. It allows the women to play at a more aggressive level and is definitely a major factor in why women’s volleyball is relevant and entertaining in international sporta

@sslamd Год назад

@@jgilly223 Its makes perfect sense, but they won’t agree to it.

@mtn4140 Год назад

@@sslamdsounds good, doesnt work. Why would you even bother? G League is already 100 times better than WNBA and ppl still dgaf. Sure it would help but wont turn it around to a profitable one.

@isitoveryet9525 Год назад

@@sslamd because for whatever reason, they see it as an insult. They blame everything except themselves….& it’s just embarrassing at this point.

@jefferyirving4638 Год назад

“Where are all the feminists?” Bill Burr 😂

@GarrettLoganGriffin 7 месяцев назад

Those venues should be sold out, you’d think. Judging by the amount of shit you hear about women’s rights and empowerment and all that other nonsense.

@Syrjis86 7 месяцев назад

Women failed the WNBA.

@southerndiscomfort171 5 месяцев назад

I wouldn’t even buy a Kelsey Plumm jersey even if she’d just got done wearing it

@user-is3dy7rp2e Месяц назад

You’d have to pay me to wear it, PR ain’t free and these ladies need it. Wonder why woman don’t support woman and watch their own sport….guess they do need men…to watch them. 😂

@jmeshox2730 Месяц назад

Who is she?

@PirateCaptainDan 2 месяца назад

I saw a video in which Shaq asked players if lowering the rim. Could make the game even more exciting. Of course, they all said No Way. But he should have followed up with the fact that the ball they play with is smaller than the men's.

@ononakanoo4428 Год назад

WNBA had a massive head start compared to the NBA's foundation being created around the start of the tech boom. They've had all the support from the NBA but instead of accepting it they dig themselves deeper each time they speak about the inequality between the 2 leagues.

@Ober1kenobi Год назад

What inequality ?

@jasonp6917 Год назад

@@Ober1kenobi You forgot about skill level and entertainment value lol

@Swolliey Год назад

@@Ober1kenobithey think their being underpaid because their woman when in reality that’s just not the case

@Osarogie112258 Год назад

Let alone the advantage as opposed to some of the other women leagues in the past. They also need to have that same smoke with the WNBA with the CBA. But to Kelsey's credit, if it wasn't for her statement about revenue sharing years ago I would not have given their grievances a look.

@ifebear2623 Год назад

@@microwaveeeenot a bias but the product in general sucks its boring to watch airballs and miss layups when u can just go to a local gym and see that for free or gym fee like were paying to see pros and possibly highlight plays to make it more enjoyable and the wnba has been -10-20 mill every year since its creation the fact that they are still up and running is cause the nba is giving them money

@SmashFantasyX Год назад

That word "Accountability" is a powerful word. That is a Taboo word in the WNBA

@morganclare4704 Год назад

For all women! And the NBA players are simps for supporting these decades old losers. cheers

@timmulder9112 10 месяцев назад

As far as I am concerned they don't need a wake-up call they need formaldehyde.

@DavidTMSN 10 месяцев назад

Accountability to women is like holy water to a vampire.

@Kelvin_Ess 7 месяцев назад

@@DavidTMSN😂

@iammicah895 7 месяцев назад

☕️

@benhaughton6199 6 месяцев назад

So if the league runs at a deficit before the NBA bails them out...shouldn't the players owe the owners some $$$

@79glane928 Месяц назад

There is no actual revenue when youre losing money Kelsey Plum.

@kevins5166 Год назад

I’ve never seen a greater disparity between ego and talent

@kenhasibar2624 Год назад

Haha. Totally! 🍻 Although I used to be a golf professional, and I've heard some s***. And then the jackass goes on to shoot 78. That's funny, too. 👍

@morganclare4704 Год назад

Good one! cheers

@snakeking5009 Год назад

“We want a share of the revenue of the league” Okay, we’re taking 200 dollars from you.

@joecollas9942 Год назад

It is actually around 83000 each player should pay the league

@TitanPardy808 Год назад

🤣

@shanebaird543 Год назад

Facts

@teamstrike1st Год назад

Actually it was deemed around 80k a year each player needs to pay to WNBA for profit share loses.

@Jahova3131 Год назад

Giving her the smallest amount of credit possible - revenue and profit are different. The WNBA technically collects revenue because it brings *some* money in. It's just that its costs are significantly higher than that revenue, so they have negative profit. Of course, that still means they ahouldn't get paid more, but at least she's smart enough to point to revenue instead of profit.

@choosethesword6366 24 дня назад

Laughing my ass off at the photo of them carrying and looking at their phones in the tunnel until the very last second they go out. This new generation is another reason these these people suck.

@choosethesword6366 24 дня назад

And then it just drops after 1998 after he was done and then comes back again when he join the NBA again. One man basically.

@michaeldennis1165 Год назад

“What’s the debate? NBA, WNBA. One is a sport, one is a joke. I like sports, I like jokes. Room for all” -Dwight Shrute

@no6418 Год назад

That was one of my favorite moments, just topped by deangelos juggling routine

@driftFree13 Год назад

The real question is, why do ball chasers get paid more than Healthcare professionals? I cheer for nurses!

@vanadyan1674 Год назад

@@driftFree13 Someone that can wipe an ass is a dime a dozen. Someone that can play basketball at the highest level is very rare. Supply and demand are still the fundamentals of economics.

@driftFree13 Год назад

@Vanadyan Remember that when your ball 'players' get injured or collapse during 'play' and the healthcare 'workers' have to give them cpr, defib, IV, feed them and then wipe their high level ass.

@TheGoldenBoot-cz1do Год назад

@driftFree13 because a lot of people can be nurses but only a few can play pro basketball? What kind of dumb statement were you tryna make

@LegendaryDorkKnight 7 месяцев назад

"We wanna be paid the same percentage of revenue in our league as the men in their league." "Sure, here's the bill. YOU have to pay US."

@sammy2840 5 месяцев назад

Huge Caitlin Clark fan here! Never miss her games! Watching a bunch of ungrateful lousy lesbian man haters? Not so much! Sorry!

@justsayinfornow5274 5 месяцев назад

The NBA should stop supporting them too...see how that goes!! I wish I could play basketball and get paid...beats getting a real job!!

@aonstability5428 4 месяца назад

Funny thing is they’re paid MORE per player percentage wise of total revenue than the men of the nba. Average nba Salary is 0.1% of total revenue of the league and wnba average salary is 0.2% of the league revenue. So not only does she think she’s entitled to something she’s already getting, she’s completely wrong.

@GIBBO4182 3 месяца назад

Reminds me of the US women’s football (soccer) team. They sued to get more money, when it got to court it was revealed they had actually been paid MORE per game than the men had, during the course of their contracts!

@pursuingliberty1303 3 месяца назад

😂

@anotherelvis 20 дней назад

To be fair the interest in Paige Buecker and Caitlin Clark is partly generated by the ESPN. This year womens basketball got the promotion that they were looking for, and they are about to get better tv-deals.

@Jim26D 2 месяца назад

They should do the bargaining agreement. Each player would end up owing money

@Best_Day Год назад

I laughed everytime the interviewers try to pretend to agree to Plum’s point. 😂

@Shadow-wq4xh Год назад

Same here, not one of them had the balls to speak up lol 😂.

@killustrator Год назад

Seriously what is the point of having a show if all you do is nod and agree with whatever the guest is saying?

@Dv8er73 Год назад

I think if they add Jordan Petersen in there to tell the WNBA players the "truth", it will make the interview more entertaining.

@gregorymorris4693 Год назад

Which is a shame. 3 grown men who can't speak up.

@danieldao1829 Год назад

@@killustrator They are too lazy to do the homework to get a fruitful discussion going. That's the problem.

@techlorknight338 Год назад

They're going to renegotiate themselves out of an entire profession

@rdgtxs Год назад

We can only hope.

@nbt1420 Месяц назад

Here's the deal Ms Plum...turn a profit and you'll get your share of that revenue. With that in mind, since you gals are in the negative (every year since inception), you owe!!!

@marcusbrothers5221 7 месяцев назад

I used to hear the cliche "I can do bad by myself"....usually during an argument with a soon to be ex girlfriend. And I always wondered why someone would accept help knowing that they could be better of without that help. But I was trying to use logic

@asundelgun3487 Год назад

I just love how they never get challenged when they go on these shows and spout nonsense

@Rinavani Год назад

It’s because they go on shows that they know they will not get challenged. All those dudes sitting with her gave up their man cards a long time ago I imagine

@Billinous Год назад

If they challenge them they'll be cancelled by the woke mob. They bent all the way over lol

@cmc5394oparva Год назад

Draymond Green has been the only one I've seen responding back directly to their assertions. He basically put Lisa Leslie in her place when she tried to whine about how the WNBA players don't make the same money as NBA players. He must have been holding that in for a while, because he really went off on her.

@brunoxd151 Год назад

@@cmc5394oparva I loved his response, he was like "nobody supports the WNBA more than NBA players and you come here trying to put the blame on us??"

@mcinnisthemenace216 Год назад

They’re not going to risk losing sponsors for women who can’t dunk. 😂

@nickox7813 9 месяцев назад

The Brittney griner "thing" could have also been easily avoided if she didn't take an illegal substance with her to a foreign country

@jrrtt25 9 месяцев назад

People seem to always gloss over that fact lol

@EL-el5ti 9 месяцев назад

This is what’s wrong with our society today, people need to take accountability for their actions and own up to their mistakes.

@matthewlee3868 9 месяцев назад

N almost 100% sure she could have found some marijuana no hassle in Russia, any pothead worth their salt knows not to fly with that s*** just pick up in the local area weed is everywhere.

@bahhumbug5467 9 месяцев назад

@@matthewlee3868you can fly with weed easily not that I recommend it but I’ve flown georgia to michigan with weed n acid in my bag and as long as you check it in they won’t really go through it But don’t do it that can get you a domestic drug trafficking charge and alotta time in jail if not the pen Going cross country though with that shit especially as a famous basketball star with your careee on the line is a bigggg no no

@simont1709 9 месяцев назад

was looking for this comment and i agree it could have also been "easily avoided" if she was a functioning adult with a brain to know not to fly international with a drug, especially to somewhere like Russia where the states are not on good terms with.

@jeremiahhudson302 2 месяца назад

I never seen a WNBA jersey on the shelf 🤷🏾‍♂️ let alone in the thrift stores

@EtNORMZ 2 месяца назад

“You no I’m a sayain?”🤣🤣 woman’s basketball is trash, no one watches it. They need to lower the rim, no one is watching this game for layups 💯🤣

@dmurphy1578 Год назад

What is 60% of nothing? She wants a bigger share of no $$.

@TREESEhoops Год назад

EXACTLY the point of the video

@abw1317 Год назад

Lol they'd owe the NBA money since they're in the negatives.

@notime9616 Год назад

The wild thing is, women who don't watch basketball complain about the WNBA players not being paid a "fair amount" like the men... If women cared enough to spend their money in support, the WNBA would make profits. However, women spend the majority of their money on cosmetic products, overpriced bags, and surgeries. WNBA players should be mad at other women for their lack of funding, but they always find ways to blame men. Smdh

@jdrmanmusiqking Год назад

Yeah they are bad at math. Like really bad we're taught from an early age that ya cant divide by zero

@thegreatone5984 Год назад

@@jdrmanmusiqking just like the percentage of them that dunk

@ViolentKknight Год назад

Literally last season was the 75 year anniversary and she said the nba has been around 100 years😂😂 Kelsey Plum is a joke

@tpsam Год назад

Exactly these girls want the luxury LeBron James has without the sacrifices George Mikan and Bill Russell West Wilt Elgin unseld Petit went through They know nothing about the fact that Bill had to play for the Celtics despite Boston being racist and people robbing his house And Bill sucked up and dealt with it like a man because that's what best for his team to win which in return was a massive favour to the league to keep their brand going

@nasiryahaya4184 Год назад

NBA/ABA, they history stuff before the merger.

@YouScareMe1 Год назад

@@tpsam Those player didn't have to see fellow athletes making 50x more than they are though.

@acesolo8688 Год назад

@@YouScareMe1 they don’t make enough this the problem with them tho

@davidpeters2625 Год назад

Nope.... clearly not the sharpest knife in the drawer

@benhale6773 Месяц назад

I appreciate how while stateing facts about how the wnba is a failing business you still show highlights of their games. Instead of air balls and missed lay ups.

@davidwashington2827 4 месяца назад

The problem with WNBA, is their performance is significantly worse, compared to how these women played in college. The WNBA, doesn’t promote their superstars or their dominant or popular teams. They don’t have promotions that encourage people to watch them play, and honestly, I never noticed when their season starts or ends. What I’ve seen about the WNBA, is their proudness of being gay and lesbians and NOT putting enough pride in putting quality basketball on the court. Women’s college basketball, is more professional, than the actual WNBA league itself. The drop off of the WNBA and women’s college basketball is tremendous different. It’s like the WNBA, are happy to be called professionals, but their overall product and performances, is mediocre with amateurish play, at best.

@limitedbom2206 Год назад

I think another reason WNBA struggles to grow is the players that are given a platform to speak. You take an NBA player, and they go on a podcast or TV interview, they go out and talk about how fun they have with the game, how much they enjoy the competition, the struggle working hard to get where they are. Then you see a WNBA player on a podcast, or TV interview, they are non stop complaining, bitching about men not giving them respect, how underpaid they are, they are so unlikable I don't even want to give them a chance.

@Peakfreud Год назад

Facts

@wessey1000 11 месяцев назад

That’s 100% correct! I love watching women’s college basketball! But when they go pro and they get brainwashed and radicalized to the point where you can’t watch them!

@JBone400 11 месяцев назад

Absolutely. I keep saying these players aren't doing themselves any favors with these constant combative attitudes. They come across as just plain nasty and negative towards everybody. Not exactly the way to grow your business.

@HooperPremium 11 месяцев назад

So true

@TheTyronecus 11 месяцев назад

Dropping the truth hammer

@xZOOMORPHICx Год назад

"I deserve a share of my jersey sales" That's why you get nothing.

@lawreecefluellen4872 Год назад

😂😂😂 i don’t think I’ve ever seen a person wearing an WNBA jersey in public. I’m not even joking. And I’ve lived in NYC for the past ten years 😭

@mrbambino3893 Год назад

🤣

@KSadikoglu 5 месяцев назад

Brittney situation would have been avoided if she hadn’t smuggled drugs into Russia.

@dcxxxx 4 месяца назад

That thumbnail is indicative of what's it's like at a real WNBA game.

@skynet8646 Год назад

Been to an WNBA game and it was like a funeral. It says alot when the intermission is more enjoyable than the actual game.

@dre9798 Год назад

Nah that’s just your city bro

@yungtye Год назад

@@dre9798 nah they all garbage compared to the nba, the profits don’t lie. Stop trying to be a knight and snap back to reality 😂😂

@homermtz Год назад

@@yungtye ouch! truth don't care about knights or the WNBA

@TheHonestSage Год назад

@@dre9798 what city do YOU live in where the WNBA is poppin??? I been to TWO wnba games for CT teams, and i fuck with you not, i could hear folks murmuring across the stadium, i was in the MIDDLE ROWS they were in the fuckin nosebleeds, its tragic just how theres no support lmao, and I dont BLAME the people. Shits like watching basketball at .5 speed in real time.

@dre9798 Год назад

@@yungtye nobody tryna be a knight

@american_freedom1759 Год назад

When the company hasn’t made profit since they’ve been established, you don’t get the company bonus😂

@harrymiram5562 Год назад

If WNBA were any other business, they would have been forced into Ch. 7 bankruptcy proceedings!

@rriggs6547 Год назад

I wonder if there is deficit sharing? Each player has to pay so many thousands just to play.

@John-sw2ev 24 дня назад

The WNBA CBA doesn’t offer 50-50 split of revenue if target revenue is hit, it only offers 50-50 split of revenue that exceeds the target…

@happyaccidents156 Год назад

They should just let them live the reality of a 50/50 split for one season. Sometimes people gotta feel before they understand.

@CrimsonHeart3 Год назад

Exactly, some people are too dumb to understand things UNTIL they experience them

@mathewomolo Год назад

but then they'll complain that the NBA is neglecting them and the media pressure from vocal women will force NBA to step in and pay the bills. In this era, no one has the balls to let a female league go down.

@jdrmanmusiqking Год назад

You gon' learn today!

@veseti2 Год назад

@@mathewomolo I gotta agree with you. Should just leave the wnba to go to shit in their finance. Bunch of overpriced divas now.

@SpankinYaBoy Год назад

Sounds like a good idea, but people rarely look inward when trying to resolve problems... always blaming outside forces and figures for your issues. They will just create another reason as to why they are failing, even if the WNBA goes out of business. What else are you supposed to believe when you have grown up your whole life hearing about how men are oppressing women.

@BlueBrit92 Год назад

I think the biggest point here is that there is a considerable skill gap.

@DougC83 Год назад

phyiscally they just cant compete

@jawelNeezeker Год назад

not even that. There is an interest gap. The fact is that women don't care much about sports as men.

@tpsam Год назад

@@jawelNeezeker and also literally a 50 years gap of history

@yourlord4096 Год назад

they can always play in the NBA, if they are skill enough they will play in the nba and make the same money has man

@johnsomething1005 Год назад

@@yourlord4096 but they can’t…

@adrianespinoza2306 5 месяцев назад

WNBA don’t have a cooked in fan base like their college counterpart and have to work on building it. In the early years, they tried to leverage the nba fan base but that’s not a long term strategy. The fact this “sports entertainment” is missed on many who are not open to the ideas of to improve the entertainment value.

@ImGoingSupersonic 3 месяца назад

The highest paid doctor makes around, $400,000 per year in America. We all know how hard that job is and to make even $60k a year for this garbage is a privilege. Its crickets in the audience and they should be counting their lucky stars.

@49pickles Год назад

You summed it all up perfectly with the fact that the WNBA and most women’s sports want to blame their fans for their problems.

@the406seadonkey6 11 месяцев назад

Nope. They blame MEN, not "fans". It's pathetic.

@bonvoyage1700 9 месяцев назад

@@the406seadonkey6true

@user-kx1mb9qq4z 9 месяцев назад

@@the406seadonkey6 Same thing basically, since its mostly men watching them as fans. Like, there are OBVIOUSLY exceptions, but sports in general is supported largely by male fans. That doesn't magically change because the players are female. Men just have a larger interest in sports. By default, nobody supports womens sports more than men. So anytime they blanket blame men, they are being anti-fan, because now 90% (all 12 of them) of their fans are being throne under the bus for no reason. Thats gotta leave a bad taste in the fans mouths, who now walk away after being needlessly mistreated.

@5kdaking334 9 месяцев назад

It would be the same way if a man started a modeling or OF career. They wouldn’t do well because the majority of their audience don’t look at Male models or OF creators 😂.

@troydarrellclark 9 месяцев назад

You can't blame what doesn't exist.....

@ragnardanneskajold1880 Год назад

Accountability? The WNBA? 🤣🤣🤣 Accountability is their kryptonite man!

@coachjon03 2 месяца назад

This video is spot on! Common sense seems to not be very common with the WNBA players. Everything pointed out in this video is really just common sense.

@raymondmanderville505 7 месяцев назад

They better be prepared to take a pay cut

@advrcity6562 Год назад

We need to stop being or pretending to be understanding and nice to these delusional people and throw facts at them so they'll realize how wrong they are.

@rodmoore1577 Год назад

You mean you actually want to discuss facts with women? Well good luck with that one!

@panic.betrayer Год назад

@@rodmoore1577 I agree the WNBA is simply not great right now but jesus, I guess I shouldn't be surprised a video like this makes some sexist fucks get out of their caves too lmao

@morganclare4704 Год назад

Wouldn't matter.

@frocat5163 Год назад

Have you ever tried to use facts, logic and/or reason with delusional people? I've had more than enough conversations with flat Earthers to know that delusional idiots will flat out dismiss every piece of data you show them and simply continue holding on to their moronic beliefs.

@christophertaylor5441 Год назад

In their minds, these people will never be wrong. Hypocrisy has no bounds!

@CK-zh2fv Год назад

Yep, give them the requested 50/50, get rid of the subsidies and let them feel the consequences. If simple logic fails them so drastically, let it also fail their league.

@JFrit67 10 дней назад

Nothing from nothing leaves nothing.

@vladimirmatalines8112 7 месяцев назад

These players are delusional 😂 how could you ask for a raise if your league is losing money?

@MrMagnaniman Год назад

I remember when the WNBA began and it had TONS of advertising and television coverage. But, as time passed, it became clear that very few people were watching it. The sad truth is that virtually all of the people saying that they should be paid more aren't going to games or watching. And we know because we have the numbers. Like you said, the league needs to do some honest self reflection and start taking steps to improve their product. Laying blame on consumers is always a losing strategy and alienates a lot of potential customers.

@channell11 Год назад

The WNBA started out strong but fell off as more people figured out what it was. The NBA started out relatively unpopular but grew significantly as it aged and grew marketable stars. That situation is a mirror for how society views men and women. Women start out on top when it comes to value simply because they are young, attractive females-and they can either capitalize on it or decline. Men start out with relatively little worth and are only valued for what they can build.

@RwandaBob Год назад

the funniest thing to me is that the biggest supporting group of the wnba according to adam silver is old white guys 😂 but all the women complaining about it must not be paying for any tickets lmao

@scottmccloud9029 Год назад

I'm all for defunding the WNBA.

@MrMagnaniman Год назад

@@scottmccloud9029 It's the NBA's money, so our opinions don't count for much. The WNBA isn't costing them very much, really, and I think it could start making decent money if they made some changes.

@Locksmith92 Год назад

Yall remember Houston and NY had great teams..the feminist dont support sports...

@davidclevenger3403 Год назад

“Oh you would like a percentage of revenue? Awesome. Here’s the thing, we consistently lose money, so here is your bill.”

@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 Год назад

I think the new cba deal should give the players 100% of the shares revenue but pull the subsidies. I bet most WNBA players don’t even know about the level of subsidies involved. What’s really funny too is women don’t even watch it. It’s like 80% male watched. Where are all the feminists when it comes to putting their money where their mouths are? The WNBA wouod fold in a month with no help from the nba

@Jiveanimal 7 месяцев назад

That's not what revenue means. Lmao you sound just like them.

@jpt4409 7 месяцев назад

Do these women think lying through their teeth is helping their cause? And if you point out facts, suddenly it’s misogynistic?

@rkwittem 4 месяца назад

Still single, huh? This is what women are largely like nowadays. Accountability is their kryptonite.

@entropysmith6965 12 дней назад

I’ve spent more time watching Women’s Volleyball in a single afternoon, than I’ve spent watching the WNBA in 27 years combined.

@doctorhadland6510 Год назад

The scary part is that these are mostly college graduates; not high school, college. She legitimately thinks she has a point that goes completely against basic finance.

@BrandonGavin_EDC Год назад

College is indoctrinating people not teaching them anything useful.

@Cheezenuts Год назад

Anyone can get into college/finish college these days, not what it used to be.

@jeffreybomba Год назад

Colleges do educate now, they indoctrinate. Those are the exact voodoo economics that she was taught like JUST PRINT MORE MONEY.

@exotiq7754 Год назад

Underrated comment

@JV8901 Год назад

You know, cuz feelings.

@cityhawk Год назад

My question to them is this, “Do you think you could survive without the financial support of the NBA?” I would be curious to see what their answers would be.

@morganclare4704 Год назад

They would lie. cheers

@cityhawk Год назад

@@morganclare4704 They would lie, but would have to state as to how that could be done. There would be a lot of pauses and stutters. Make them come up with a viable solution if they believe they can do it. I wouldn’t bet they’d come up with one though.

@yaimavol Год назад

I forget which NBA player had to sit a game out because he made this point publicly

@outdoorsanimalsandmusic3014 Год назад

Bro I would not be shocked if most WNBA players don’t even know this lmao

@johnnski3569 Год назад

Oh you means without MENS help!?

@MrSimonvk 2 месяца назад

Great video, very insightful and with respect to the WNBA.

@kflex1812 7 месяцев назад

When she said they want the same percentage of revenue shared. Did the man say that's Bulls...?

@wrc1210 9 месяцев назад

The entitled attitude of the WNBA players is insane. Theyre getting paid on average $120,000 to play a game at a level that, while it's tops among the women, it's mediocre in general. If somebody started a league for men that offered those kind of salaries for that level of play, you'd have qualified men lining up around the block. The comparison to the NBA G league is spot on. Those guys busting their asses for $40,000/yr and here are the women crying trying to compare themselves to the NBA.

@xansolskjr8628 4 месяца назад

Well said!

@ASMRPajamas 3 месяца назад

Welcome to 21st century women.

@dougamundson6836 2 месяца назад

When the WNBA makes money, they get paid more.

@rodneywilliams4263 Год назад

Honestly, you hit the nail on the head. Moving the franchises out of big cities, to college based cities would definitely generate more revenue. Buuuuut. Now you want private jets. Now there’s a problem. Who’s paying for this?

@rockinrobin5789 Год назад

But then they would bitch about Duke, IU, UofM, Ky, drawing more fans and would go after their Revenue! 😂

@richardsenkBeachwalker Год назад

not really. If you can't sell in New York or Atlanta, you definitely won't sell in small markets

@browardcountyspam1543 Год назад

@@richardsenkBeachwalker false

@samueldawkins Год назад

@@richardsenkBeachwalker not true

@eriklakeland3857 Год назад

@@richardsenkBeachwalkerthere’s too much sports competition in the big cities. I think it’d be helpful to move to smaller cities especially if they aren’t big college towns.

@braintrust12 3 месяца назад

I agree and i think WNBA players should get the same percentage of revenue that NBA players get. In other words, WNBA players should be paying the WNBA 10-20 thousand/year to help offset the losses of the WNBA. It’s only fair. No special treatment for men! Equality!

@marcusbrothers5221 7 месяцев назад

The Mystics have only one player that has merchandise with her name on it. Since we can agree that NBA likes money, this should be a powerful clue that something isn't working as well as in the WNBA as it does in the NBA.

@vincentramirez8188 Год назад

They don’t need a wake up call, they need a swan song. Fold already.

@thomasnickel1278 Год назад

Should've pulled the plug years ago

@garrybartlett6853 Год назад

I agree, all womens sport should be amateur... they have children to be raising...

@edwardfights4900 Год назад

@@thomasnickel1278 should've never been plugged in from the beginning lol

@deenil Год назад

Treese would call you stupid

@cobainxxx2142 Год назад

U incels mfs crazy ong

@diehardeaglesfansince1994 Год назад

I love how she's all mad at the NBA and the men when they're the one that funds every single one of their paychecks

@gjfwang Год назад

It worked for college with title ix getting passed. Although now that NCAA men athlete can get paid and stopped pretending to be amateur, I can see women’s programs start getting axed over the next decade

@bonvoyage1700 9 месяцев назад

Women just don’t watch wnba… simple..

@jeffg1524 7 дней назад

This vid was done a year ago. It's interesting to revisit and update with what the Caitlin Clark Effect might do for the league. The intense interest she's generating for the W with huge ticket and merch sales may finally "realize" the 50-50 split the CBA offers. That is if CC "continues" to keep the interest going and doesn't get injured or run into the ground by being overplayed or having to carry the crushing weight of the Savior of the WNBA for eternity. We should revisit this a year from now and see what happened...lol.

@ickcubs102 4 месяца назад

Love how the interviewers just agree with everything they say and never ask follow up questions for more detail

@johnkrstyen7351 Год назад

One way to make people actually watch the WNBA is have the Championship winner play any random middle American High School team at the end of the season. That I will actually watch.

@drinkxyz Год назад

The varsity? Wouldn't be very competitive but I would indeed watch.

@Jansk1h Год назад

The highschool team would clown on the wnba team so that would make the league look like even more of a joke

@Peakfreud Год назад

😂😂😂 facts

@lydellb 11 месяцев назад

Kind of like the literal Olympic Women's soccer team getting washed by actual Middle school boys. 😂😂😂😂😂

@standardofexcellence 11 месяцев назад

They will get raped on the court then claim sexual harassment even being butch dikes

@quetzcoatl80 4 месяца назад

Didn’t these women go to higher education universities? Didn’t they take economics? How’s is it difficult for them to understand basic economics? No fans, no money therefore there is extra cash for them….duh

@ItzBirdz Год назад

It’s scary how misinformed Plum is. That’s wild and so immature on her part

@personreanimation Год назад

She is being intentionally dishonest.

@dgb921 Год назад

It’s typical though

@That_Guy_Ry Год назад

She’s notorious for saying dumb shit

@maxwelldodd5741 Год назад

Honestly i wouldnt be shocked if WNBA paid her to do that

@anthonyarito7581 Год назад

She’s so confidently incorrect

@lok1_m674 Год назад

bill burr really was on point

@desmondyap5391 Год назад

MVP comment

@intrigued16 Год назад

Yes, MVP

@shadowrunner4526 7 месяцев назад

I say give it to them, at the end of the day, they are going to have to pay money back.

@andrewbrook4633 4 месяца назад

So basically they are just trying to put media and fan pressure on the owners so they can get a better cba? Yet they don’t take accountability for their garbage play or the fact that their fan base is smaller than many high school football teams.

@Dpoz11 Год назад

Shaqs idea of lowering the rim to watch these girls dunk on each other is ingenious

@franquil85conn Год назад

It's not ingenious, it's obvious...that and a much smaller court

@marklestergatchalian8431 Год назад

true. look at volleyball. its famous. and guess what net is lower on womens

@franquil85conn Год назад

@Mark Lester Gatchalian they need to do more than that, they need to turn it into a different sport. Look at softball, the WCWS gets more views annually than the CWS, why is that? It's because softball is more fast paced than baseball. Women aren't as strong or as fast or have the reaction time as quick as men, so they make the ball bigger and yellow, pitch underhand, bases closer, fence much closer to allow HRs...you watch softball and you don't see inferior athletes playing the same game as the men, you see an entirely different game. Imagine if they decided no more softball and they had to play on a field like the men, with reg baseballs? It would be painfully obvious that the product is not as good. I watched a video of Britney griner doing an interview where she misses 3 dunks....BG has a standing reach of 9ft2in and her vertical is so shit that she struggles to dunk? That's crazy

@undrwtrbsktwvn1110 Год назад

@@franquil85conn watching her dunk is sad, like you can barely clear the rim at 6'7"? Some of her dunks in this clip look like layups.

@franquil85conn Год назад

@@undrwtrbsktwvn1110 yeah, which makes it that much more laughable that she said she could body Demarcus Cousins

@hughjass1976 Год назад

"The whole Brittney Griner thing could've been avoided if the wnba was in a place where the players get paid better" or, you know, if she respected the law of the country she chose to enter

@guardiansofthecontest3461 Год назад

Yea everyone seems to forget that lol. She should’ve done that time. Call me sexist or whatever, but it is completely ignorant to believe that U.S. laws are every country’s laws. She’s a functioning adult, not a child. If that was a regular joe, we’d never even hear about it. Stupid

@userunknown1578 Год назад

Also, there was absolutely 0 reason for Griner to be playing overseas... She's making at least 6 figures/year in the WNBA. She is greatly overpaid as it is.

@manapaws5507 Год назад

Don't forget she was sent to a penal colony over some cannabis. She could have been there 10 years, if not more until the Russians got what they wanted. Don't forget the "Brittney Griner thing" was created by Putin and his band of Russians.

@hughjass1976 Год назад

@@manapaws5507 If something is illegal, and you do it anyway, you have to accept the consequences, no matter if you see them as extreme. Simple as.

@manapaws5507 Год назад

@@hughjass1976 it's not that simple in the civilized world. There is know governing body or individual who acts as the judge, jury, and executioner. But I am sure many will gladly welcome you and that ideology in the Congo or Middle East.

@isaaclane764 Месяц назад

adam silver saying old men like it for "whatever reason" made me laugh.

@ronaldhansen3499 3 месяца назад

Subsidizing the WNBA is like loaning money to a relative that you know you will not get it back.

@daneanderson7437 Год назад

This video has more views than an entire WNBA season. They all do.

@Billinous Год назад

Noone want to watch airballing layups

@wanderingthemiddleground5283 Год назад

🤣 Perfect!

@thecosplaynoobj3872 Год назад

Exactly!! Honestly people aren’t interested in the WNBA. There’s a few die hard fans but it will NEVER I mean NEVER come close to the NBA views.

@briandstephmoore4910 Год назад

That per game attendance sums up our lives perfectly lol. Men start at zero and have to earn it all, women start at 100 and have to try not to lose it all.

@evanabbott2737 8 месяцев назад

That is absolutely true.👍🤷‍♂️

@chazzitz-wh4ly 8 месяцев назад

Then they demand a “fair share” from the millions the men earned after regularly being handed a bone so they don’t completely drown.

@aesirgaming1014 7 месяцев назад

Imagine going to contract negotiations and asking for higher pay when after you spent your last contract losing your boss money. If that seems like an alternative reality to you, then you live in the 99.999999% of Americans who haven't played in the WNBA. It takes an incredible amount of entitlement to demand more money when you're actively losing money for your boss.

@entropysmith6965 12 дней назад

If they want a percentage of WNBA revenue, they’re going to have to pay the WNBA to play.

@buckeyeguru2321 Год назад

The whole Britney Griner thing could've also been avoided if she didn't bring hash oil into Russia

@RemoWilliams1227 Год назад

Lol right 😂

@snowstorm1863 Год назад

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Equivalent to 9/11 wouldn’t have happened if planes didn’t crash into buildings 😂😂😂

@snowstorm1863 Год назад

This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Equivalent to 9/11 wouldn’t have happened if planes didn’t crash into buildings 😂😂😂

@dannycarlow8204 Год назад

She didn't know. Typical woman.

@timothypetro2032 Год назад

@@dannycarlow8204 she knew…. 🤣😂

@nickfoster9350 10 месяцев назад

The WNBA is such an incredible, elite league, that after a couple decades of its existence, I still don't know the names of any players, or any teams.

@JS-nr7te 9 месяцев назад

Danica Patrick is a small small forward I think

@Sahadi420 7 месяцев назад

I think one of the teams is called "Clueless"

@lifeisashonen4291 7 месяцев назад

Marie Antionette had a pretty awesome career and should be remembered

@greeninja1396 7 месяцев назад

lmao@@lifeisashonen4291

@maddslothii2532 6 месяцев назад

There is is or was probably someone named Wanda.

@jackdempsey2497 4 месяца назад

Man, i saw that graph of the wnba attendance and the ad came on.. thank god 😂😂😂

@dannytu0322 2 месяца назад

I’ll go to a WNBA game only if I get free parking, hotdog, nachos, and a coke with my ticket purchased at 50% off. 🎉

@George83_Thomas 2 месяца назад

Living the dream

@KuKuKlock123 Год назад

She has a point about getting a percentage of her jersey sales… the only problem is, it doesn’t sell, or sell enough. What I’m trying to get from what she’s saying or wanting is she wants her share of her brand, all the while throwing the organization that’s giving her, her platform, under the bus. Under this idea, the WNBA’s agreement to take in the majority of any profit is understandable. They’re trying to keep their platform afloat, giving these woman a chance to shine, and they in turn just wants to bite the hand that feeds them.

@shift7808 Год назад

So what youre saying is.. she doesnt have a point

@jdrmanmusiqking Год назад

Yeah soooo she doesn't have a point? Not sure why ya said she has one

@vinyllpreviews9462 Год назад

I'm willing to bet there has to be a certain number of jerseys sold before it becomes profitable to pay individual players a percentage. I imagine they break it down by league, if the sell enough, then by team, once again if they sell enough they can break it down by player. It's not worth the vendors time to add up each individual sell. I imagine the league in general is eating some of the cost on merchandise sales. They want it available to fans because it's good advertisement, but their not making money selling jerseys.

@ejdolo Год назад

What's stopping her from creating Kelsie Plum merch? Those jersey sales as low as they are... are used to cover other expenses for the league. Plus no one would care who Kelsie Plum is if it weren't for the WNBA

@justinlevy274 Год назад

@@vinyllpreviews9462 guarantee the wnba takes a loss on those jersey sales

@solo7191 Год назад

"In all respect" had me dying. Bro, this should not even be a conversation. These girls should start a struggling business but pay their employees more than their revenue we'll see if they'll survive the market.