After all these years, I think I've realised why Arthur and Joseph's souls escaped the Woman in Black in the afterlife, and it's not because of Arthur's late wife watching over them nor because of Arthur's effort to put the WIB to rest. It's because Arthur physically managed to try saving his son, something Jennet was unable to do when her child drowned in the marsh and something all the parents of her subsequent victims weren't there to do.
You have to think about this ending to get it. "I will never forget" was what you heard the Woman say. But then, you think about this. She took Arthur's child, knowing that Arthur will go after him, and reunited him with his wife, and his whole family was back together. It was a good, scary and sad ending at the same movie. It defies all movies. Thumbs up if you agree
She wasn't trying to "repay" Arthur as a thank-you gesture. She made it clear she would never forgive and her eternal goal is to kill all the children in the village. Arthur interrupted her plan to force Joseph to commit suicide by sacrificing himself to try and save him. At the end his wife and Joseph's mom took them to heaven with her and the woman in black watched in anger since her plan was ruined. In all honesty, if I was Sam I'd toss the body back in the marsh and burn the mansion down.
in the original novel, Arthur got married and had a kid AFTER he had settled the affair and got back to London. he thought the haunting of the woman in black had ended but then she reappeared and both his wife and the kid died, leaving Arthur alone in agony i like the movie ending a lot better
Claire is right. The women black purpose of killing arthur and his son because he wanted to reunite them with his wife just like he did with her son. Through this she was saying thank you
That is completely wrong she never looked at the body of her son ever in the movie she just attacked Author and remember shes a spirit built on revenge NEVER FORGIVE she will never truly be satisfied and will continue to kill Children forever so they kn her pain she saw this as a win for she killed Author and the boy since she knew his plan to save his child from her was never gonna work in turn got both his and her soul something shes never done before getting an adult soul
Actually this is quite wrong. When Arthur rescued the boy and prepared him with the cards and the necklace, most ppl didn’t hear this, but he said to her ‘your not my mummy’ so she was mad at Arthur because she subsequently thought it was his fault, so she attempted to kill his son but she failed and they were reunited instead. Not trying to be mean tho I thought this at first.
This scene was so sad :'( And the ending with the two of them walking away was just like the ending of the last play I did, with the main character who died walking away hand in hand with the muse that inspired him. I'm about to cry :'(
I flipped in the cinema. I just lost it. When Joseph walked away: God, I was just cursing and swearing and hating the movie and everything, Jesus, it was the best thing ever but hell, oh, I still can't get over it... I'm glad Arthur, his wife and Joseph are together in the end, like a sort of "happy ending", otherwise I wouldn't have survived xD
She did not intend for them to reunite. But you can tell by her face, she wished she could have that same ending. But if you remember the scene when Arthur lured her to her son, the boy said "No, I want my mother." She was angry. Even though in the book, the boy began to get real close to her before he died. The face isn't so much scary as it is sad. She wants to be free but she can never forget or forgive what happened during her life.
Interesting note: in an earlier cut/mix of this film (one I believe has found its way online), during the scene where Daniel 'reunites' her with her son, you can hear a child's voice screaming, "No! No, you're not my mother!" This isn't included in the final theatrical/DVD/Blu-ray mix of the film. Which I find interesting. It changes the dynamic. Imagine the already insane Woman's intense feelings after being reunited with her son only for him to reject her.
I've come to realize that the woman is scary only until then, because the make her seem so gruesome and scary when she's trying to scare people or kill them, but here it's like you can truly see her jealously and sadness that she didn't get the ending she wanted as she watches them walk off. I know she's kind a bitch, but I feel sorry for her.
I saw this movie when I was four and I’m 13 now and I’ve been looking for this movie since I was seven and this scene always scared the absolute crap out of me but I finally found the movie I feel accomplished
Santino Palmese oh no sorry I forgot to mention that I had a dream with the train scene in it and it just happened randomly when I was seven and I remembered that It was a movie that I saw but I couldn’t remember which one and I just started looking for it
There's just one thing I don't understand, how did Arthur not notice that his son just pulled away from him and started walking towards the train? I mean, if u look carefully, you'll see that Arthur was holding Joseph's hand firmly, and yet the boy just softly pulled away. Or was that also supposed to be the work of the woman in Black?
I assume he thought "Oh, my son let go of my hand, but he is not darting onto the tracks in front of the incoming train" though with all that´s happened in the story he should have been a lot more alert than that lol
so sad...i really cried...it's so emotionall.i think arthur it's a great parent because he jumped in front of the train to save his children's live.it's a dark story with a different ending.i think is one of the best horror i've seen in these years,because the films of this genre of films has been fooled!!! :)
You know the reason the woman in black did this was because. Kipps reunited The Woman with her son. The woman knew Kipps wanted to see his wife again so what she did was what she was good at. Also I cannot be the only one who cried during this scene right? Like seriously this was sad as fuck.
Definitely! I think this is probably the most satisfying punishment I have ever seen one of these horror movie ghosts get; an eternity of loneliness, denied forever the comforts of peace and love my their own selfishness. That last few seconds of her staring after the Kipps is as sweet as pie to me.
At least Arthur was reunited with his wife and their boy was with them. Imagine, if the boy had died and Arthur had stayed alive - it would have been horrible for him, first losing his wife and now losing his son.
When I first saw this movie in the theater, during the scene when Jeanette's spirit went towards her son's body I swore I heard the little boy say "no stay away from me". Which is why she turned around angry to Arthur. But once the movie came out on DVD the little boy's voice was gone...cut from the scene🙄🤔. So before the movie went to DVD I was telling people she's still angry because her son's spirit rejected her. But they altered the scene so it just looks like she's angry just to be angry....
She only think of her needs and neglect to think perhaps others share her care for their own offspring. The end scene made me smile cause from that moment she knew that is it. Kibbs lived his life in oppression and been penniless, and without his wife to care for him and Joe. It's like Fate spit on that B*tch's face who thinks killing the Kipps can satisfy her loneliness but no, it made HER knew she can never have what the Kipps have, released from earthly burden to be with his family.
OMG IN THE MOVIES WHEN SHE SCREAMED AT THIS SCENE JUMPED OUT OF MY SEAT SAYING HOLY S*** HER VOICE IS SO HIGH. ANOTHER SCENE WAS WHEN SHE LOOKS AT U I THOUGHT IM GOING TO DIE NEXT
There was nothing scary about those last seconds. I thought it would the way people were talking about it. But then again, most of them were kids. Her face is like anger mixed with sadness. Angry that she couldn't have the boy's soul. Sad because her rage and hate for everyone prevents her from moving on and truly being with her son and achieving the same peace as Arthur.
They setup the sam and arthur relationship so well, i was hoping it would just end with arthur accepting sam and his wife into his own family. Sam finding a surrogate son in arthur
I don't agree with the idea the Woman did this to him and his son to "return the favor." I see the ending as similar to The Ring: despite a noble effort, the spirit won't be appeased or move on. The brief scene where the camera moves through the house as her voice says, "Never forgive. Never, never forgive" strongly suggests she is still evil. Besides, ending a child's life is heinous, full stop. Not a gift, even if it does reunite him with his deceased mother.
I kind of saw it a bit different than most. I think she was grateful towards Arthur, and rewarded him by giving him the one thing he really wanted: For him, his son, and his wife to be together again. However bittersweet the result may be. Notice how Jennet looks towards them, longing to be like them, to some extent. And really, does Arthur look upset to be dead? It's not a horrible ending. However... Everyone in that town is fucked beyond belief. I'd move. Like....immediately!
That's because the curse wasn't about her son being lost in the marsh, it was about him dying in the first place ... when both the parents and the driver lived. The curse will never end so long as she has the energy to keep haunting. And, as far as the ending goes ... she gave them the last flicker of her mercy. It was actually a nice thing to do, from a ghost's perspective. In that one instance both father and son were "pure" enough to be able to meet up with the wife/mother. My 2 cents.
I'm still not sure how to interpret the ending. I definitely surprised me; i just kinda sat there staring at the tv in shock when the train hit them. On one hand, i kinda thought she was repaying him. But on the other hand, she did say she would never forgive, and surely she couldn't have known Arthur would go after him. I think when he died too, she couldn't take the child and that's why the family was reunited. Brutal but actually happy ending, to me.
@humbl3fact I thought about it but apparently that wasn't the case, James Watkins said that she didn't do this for Arthur but for revange. She's can't forget and forgive what happens...that's what i've heard. But i had the same point of you at first.
he didn't die by voldemort.... he didn't die by nagini.... he didn't die by basilisk.... he didn't die by a dragon... he didn't die by professor quirel... he didn't die by a troll.. he didn't die by spiders... he didn't die by inferis..... and he died by a train.... omg wtf?????? hahahahhahahahaha
I'm not sure what to believe about Jennet's motivation in this. It's probably more likely that she simply meant to take Joseph and didn't anticipate Arthur's intervention. But at the same time, Jennet was there each time Arthur attempted to save all those other kids, so maybe she had an inkling that he would be willing to sacrifice himself, especially to save his own child. The optimistic part of me wants to believe that she was trying to thank Arthur for reuniting her with her son.
Is the music/sound on this original or have you replaced it? I ask because it's nothing like either the theatrical release or the dvd/blu-ray. Here's a video here showing the actual release ending ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VQ7efalhqnM.html The music and sound are entirely different (and much better imo)
dude i totally agree, thats what my parody video of it is about, i made it pointing out the fact that he saved her baby but she still ends up killing him.. so messed up
the entire theatre started clapping when daniel looked up holding joseph after the train went by kuz they thought they were alive. NOPE JUST KIDDING THEYRE DEAD. i cried....
