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Patrick Maloney I was thinking just that. Alfred realizes just how right Bruce is which leaves him speechless

Its kinda unfair, because Clark had both his parents raising him, Bruce did not. Thats why Clark is more human.

@@fynkozari9271 Bruce had his parents raised him dumbass. They died when he was young boy which is the same day Bruce died too on the inside. Also you forget Superman lost his home planet, his real parents and his people

It's not true. Joss Whedon's a dumb SuperDORK Fangirl

@@mahad813 There is a difference between your butler raising you and your parents raising you. Also Bruce's parents were shot at point blank range right in front of his eyes when he was 7 years old whereas Clark didn't even know about the destruction of his planet until he was already a teen. And Clark can never be more human than Batman. This isn't the best portrayal of Batman

Your right maybe we will finally get the movie we deserved. I think it will actually turn out a great peice

@@TEDSHOTTHAT Maybe. But nothing in Zack Snyder's filmography gives me that sort of confidence.

"If you can't bring down the charging bull, don't wave the red cape at it."

This scene was written by Joss Whedon so don’t count on it. Snyder doesn’t understand the Justice League

@@jon1819 haha really whedon made flash an awkward discount peter parker, batman a pathetic jokester, completely remove any character development or background on cyborg and flash and had random wonder woman buttshots not to mention made steppenwolfe look blander than rice cakes plus the narrative lacked cohesion, he reshot 90% of the movie was an asshole on set.

It's because it's one of the rare times Batman admits he's wrong. He's not wrong about bringing back Superman, he was admitting that he was wrong about how he treated him.

Shanethefilmmaker Yep also that he realizes he was losing his mind slowly and was breaking his "one rule" that's not to kill

I love Batman’s arc from a guy who was at the edge of moral bankruptcy to a man who once again believes in good

But Batman is Human and Superman was the Alien. Then again, it was his actions that made him more Human.

Depressed Child Reminded me of Spock's funeral from Wrath of Khan. "Of all the souls I have encountered, his was the most....human."

Bingo bango bongo, you're not wrongo

And in the same movie we got, " SoMetHinG's dEfiNitElY bLeEdInG". SMH man.

@@IneshKhanal Well, no one said Bruce didn't have a sense of irony.

@SNP Productions The "somethings's bleeding" line or the "He was more human than I am" line?

@SNP Productions Fair enough. That's probably a Whedon bit. But yeah, the other scene I loved.

Yes sir, you're absolutely right ! I agree with you 👍💯💯

Just shows how simple minded people can be but atleast you explained the martha scene that people always make fun of.

Do all the people he murdered not have mothers?

What a perfect way to put it.

also, Clark said ‘Martha Kent’ but Bruce stood on his neck, making the Kent part not easily heard

Brother you said it 😒

Chris Hansen and we are gonna get it 💪

That applies to most DCEU movies, even the decent one lol

@@lex_rodriguez Which is the decent one? I think Shazam, Aquaman, WW and BvS Ultimate Edition are all decent at the very least.

It may very well get one...

way better than this wierd lighting

The original set was black with white lights, almost like a bomb. Batman is almost suicidal with guilt

Michael Jackson u get it , but not the audience

Exactly.

Rembrandt van Rijn what makes bvs interesting is that bruce was being dominated by the bat personality, when alfred and clark were trying to talk to him about his actions he was too stubborn to listen, remember the first scene with alfred and clark's interview. The movie also shows how mentally weak bruce was with jason, the black zero event and now superman who he saw as a threat, and most importanly his ptsd was getting worse that ever. That's why the resolution of their fight was writing the way it was, superman without any bad intention and because he was losing time, gave batman a name so maybe he could believe him, this obviously trigger bruce in an emotional level for the first time in the movie, it was ptsd and trigger for unexpected outcomes that finally opened his eyes about what he was doing the whole time. It is also important to know that individuals with ptsd blame themselves for what happened to them so the scene goes very deep between the two characters.

Clark has a lovable mother A goddess like mom

@Zain844 he means his humanity as a virtue.

You forgot that they both have mother names of Martha.

Darshan Parulekar depth of these lines

Bruce is not really Bruce in this scene. The real Bruce Wayne was neutered to make critics happy. I mean this movie is notorious for a bad portrayal of Batman. But I can't expect anything else from a dumb Lois lane wannabe!! Stop sucking Superman

@@brucew565 have you ever seen the animated series or read a comic that isn't Injustice or The Dark Knight Returns?

@@ivanagustinortiz5237 Plenty. Plenty. Compare this dumb neutered Batman with any widely regarded story of Batman that's not a parody ( so that obviously excludes Adam West, Lego and Batman Forever ) and tell me that this is an accurate representation of Batman. If someone thinks that this is even remotely how Batman is supposed to portray then they either don't understand Batman or hate him.

@@ivanagustinortiz5237 If you would stop sucking Superman for a minute then you would know that this movie was a huge slap to Batman fans. By the way, Superman isn't one-tenth the man Bruce is. Never will be. I bet he can't even get hard without the sun.

@@brucew565 Superman is 10 × the Man Batman is. Batman has been through 10× as much, Ill give you that. And bat holds his own versus anybody except A superhuman. But with all that Power----By default-- Superman cannot ever abuse it. He is Perfect. And Superman is too powerful. He would probably deaden his cock through out most of the day. For our safety physically and morally

This is Whedon scene

@Nayan Jyoti Nath look at Ben's face and his hair and hairline you'll see. Compare to the first JL trailer or Snyder cut trailer.

@Nayan Jyoti Nath jus see the colorful background... U could jus say it was Whedon set not even present in principal photography

@@HM-wn2in And yet this would've been great in the Snyder Cut.

@Frogger because it's a scene made by Whedon and not Snyder

Did you not watch BvS? Bruce rushed through Metropolis' destruction to save his employees. His employees respected and trusted him. He clearly had a reputation as a serious and accomplished businessman. Wayne Enterprises as a company wasn't involved because it didn't have much to do with the plot. Claiming he's done nothing for his company is such a big lie.

@@MaleShepN7 but he also pointed out how Bales batman was very much a playboy and Affleck's batman is not

The reason Batman was so weak in justice league is that for so long in his mission he was motivated by rage, in the prime of his career his rage was tempered by his compassion & his strict moral code but by BvS his rage had overpowered all aspects of his self, his moral code was gone,his charming playboy mask which he constructed to mask his true self was in shambles. Notice the scene where he’s interviewed by Clark & see how he goes from asshole uncaring playboy to intense simmering rage. Post BvS his rage is gone & he’s struggling to find the fire to fight, he figures he no longer has the ability to fight the new threats in the post superhuman world so putting together the league & resurrecting Superman is in his mind the last good thing he can do to protect the world & he actually WANTS to die before he becomes irrelevant but Diana & the team inspire him to fight on.

@@sonamtashi7706 spitting facts bruh💯

That is why Sups is very awesome 😃

Surely, that's one of the reason he act less arrogant and more submissively, because he knows he was wrong and he blame himself for Supes death...

Antichrist2000 You're wrong, say what you want about the Martha moment, but it was the moment Bruce knew that Superman despite his extraordinary abilities, he was still a man. Superman was more human than Batman during the events of BvS. Him crying for the safety of his mother proved that if God is all powerful, he is all good. He changed because he was wrong about Superman, throughout the whole movie Batman looked at Superman as this unstoppable murderous monster, when the real monster was Batman himself.

Antichrist2000 it's still doomsday though.

Antichrist2000 Your argument makes no sense, that thing was Doomsday whether you like it or not.

damn this was the only josstifce league scene that was good

@@dosomestuff1949 Cyborg's introduction scene where he talks to his father was really good to, it was really well written. But that was the only scene where Whedon gave Cyborg any justice.

Um, what about the “Everybody Knows” opening scene?

@@dosomestuff1949 the intro scene with the thief on the Rooftop and then his one-on-one with the Parademon was also really cool. His scene with Diana, where he lets slip the fact that he's getting too old for the job is also good. Also Batman being the one bringing Lois to bring Clark back from his temporary rage is on point. All these scenes display a heavily analytical Batman who, just like in the comics, recognizes strengths and weaknesses in others.

@@thestarkknightreturns the intro scene was absolutely stupid. Why the hell would he talk to Alfred infront of a fucking criminal. The scene with Diana, Batman shows how weak he is, this is not Batman.

What other choice was there? Snyder’s previous films didn’t allow for more than that

Tbh, it was also weird when he told martha they were "friends" in BvS

@@PJmachine he told her that just to re-comfort her

@@henrymaxcy4267 he could have said "I'm with your son". I'm a friend of your son's is weird to say 5 minutes after trying to kill him.

And why is he the least human of all? I mean what makes you think that? And yes relatable is a wrong term to use here, but Batman is the closest to us all because he started without superpowers and became what he is now purely on his own.

Mayukh Sen Flash and Green Lantern both started without powers too, but they weren't born with a fortune and they have everyday jobs to go work at 991Fate i said it makes him *less* relateable than the others, not completely impossible to relate to at all

Tucker Bowen Batman's wealth hardly ever contributed to become who and what he is today. With his intellect (in canon DC comics Batman is the smartest member of the justice league, with unparalleled scientific inventions and strategic intelligence, closely followed by Lex Luthor) he could have earned his wealth or resources in a matter of 10 years by easily becoming a tech giant(like how Luthor got rich). Batman dedicated his youth to mental and physical training, but when he was training himself, he was making his own living, up until the league of assasins took him in,and since then he didn't have to worry about food, Bruce has lived the lives of poor people during the time he was in training, he had no assistance from his home So don't pull the "born with a fortune" card, it has no relevance to anything. Batman is the most relatable because he is a hero that is inside every one of us, he is a symbol of hope and willpower. He teaches us that willpower and dedication can take us a long way, and only sky is the limit. Flash and Green Lantern are in no way relatable, Flash is a godlike powerful entity and Green Lantern learnt all his combat skills and knowledge through digital programming, how the fuck did they ever do anything to become what they are? They were gifted with their powers, but I must admit they are the most saintlike characters to opt to become benevolent protectors and heroes because with that much power any ordinary joeschmoe would want to become a tyrant. There is a lesson to learn from every hero, but no one inspires us like Batman does, he is by far the best of all heroes in every way imaginable, it's just because I am a superman fanboy is why Batman is still number two on my list.

Mayukh Sen look, i'm fine with disagreeing on how human Batman is, but don't say that GL and Flash are just downright impossible to relate to. for one thing, GL did not learn *all* of that through programming. you think they let just anyone join the air force? the ring chose him for his heart and mind. and Flash's powers may have been accidental, but it would never have happened if he hadn't worked to become a chemistry genius.

Tucker Bowen Of course both are incredible human beings, and I really admire them from the core of my heart, but you have to admit Batman is a more inspiring hero than both of them. In my opinion Batman was just written to be the most awesome and popular superhero of all time.

Alfred would never ask that

its not different its accurate

This all whedon, but I think this scene was actually there there in snyder cut but with Bruce and the league not alfred

Man of Steel Batman hardly even knew him and didn't he try to kill superman why is everyone pretending live Batman v superman never happened 🤔🤔🤔

Man of Steel I think lots of scenes were clearly missing with his arc. It is subtle, but you can notice that throughout the movie Bruce has a death wish. But scenes that explore these were probably cut out. For a Fuck's sake Warner, who the fuck thought that making a movie about fuck tonnes of characters less than 2 hours is a good idea?

Leon Fontius in bvs he basically found out he was wrong about him and his death Inspired him to be a better hero

Hamani Omarah Find, but that doesn't really mean he knew superman that well

Leon Fontius he could have researched about him after he died.

Superman represents both hope and the power of destruction. Hope is.... odd. Gotham City has hopeful people. But.... Jean-Paul, Jimmy, and Jeremiah Arkham are barely holding on. This Batman has lost all hope. So imagine if he is Gotham's last hope. This vengeful creature of darkness could and would only the evil that the bat fought. Power became opposition in his eyes. And opposition became Gotham's dark side. But here, in this very scene: I see a human being that tries to reobtain hope and embrace the better part of humanity. He may be mad. But he is getting better. Hopefully.

Yea we know it’s actually one of the good reshoots

Or a reboot with a director who respects the characters.

I concur

What about the “Everybody Knows” opening?

Absoloutly agree.

Mostly Joss Whedon

It's already there in Snyder cut

Nope, wasn’t there

Maybe Bruce had kryptonite under his sleeve

I thought the "dont wave the red cape at the bull" line was one of the best lines in the whole movie! XD

Nah the scene that replaced this is a million times better

@@gregwxst nah, i disagree

@@gregwxst It was a good scene, but I was missing the "he was more human than I am" line

I remember hearing that. Wasn't there a scene of him talking to Diana saying that death wouldn't make up for the things he's done or something along those lines?

@@chrishansen9731 mhmm, the scene where the league comes in and saves him is the remains of his "going out like a man" plan. The film was (and now very well might in 2021) going to deal with the extreme guilt he carried for giving into his darker side.

D. J. His theme. For me it was his theme. Call me lame but when superman resurrected and we didnt hear his awesome superman them i wanted to kms. It would have been even more special if they used a bit of christopher reeves superman theme but meh

D. J. I would assume that scenes like that were shot, considering how much the media played a part in BvS, but like a lot of Snyder’s scenes, they were probably cut.

There’s a scene in the trailer showing a memorial in London & a bunch of radio coverage, it’s not in the Joss cut though.

ok... NOW I get why in The Dark Knight Returns, Batman says "Dick called it the Batmobile" because Batman lol would never name his car that lol

And to think he used to fear & despise him before

Honestly!Dead Of Jonathan Kent & Fight In BVS (even it suck) They make Our & Batman realized about. How cost Batman pay to still be a Batman.One of them is his “Humanity mind”For Now he just a Mask who becomes a man because he get wear by Bruce Wayne.

Bruh

that's because he did

Not for me. But the "he was more human than I am" line is good. But here it's like he knew Clark since years, but in reality, he knew him for 1 hour if not less.

@@sangokus6478 well he is the world’s greatest detective, so he may as well have.

@@wildbill9490 Then the Martha's scene would've made no senses if it was the cases. He knew Superman for 30 minutes/1 hour, no more in the movies before that.

ClimacticBooBow Simple. Perry's long figured out Clark's Superman. He arranges a plausible deniability scenario with Clark and Lois. And then publishes the explanation in the paper that Clark had his death faked for an undercover assignment.

ClimacticBooBow henry cavill talked about this in a interview, he said that superman rebirth (comic) was going to be used for his character

Agreed 💯

Lespaulofdoom he actually does.

😂 More like 0:07 -0:10, am I right?