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The WORST Decision the US Army Ever Made 

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@sushibar777
@sushibar777 3 года назад
Better than the Navy's blue camo, which only is good at making sailors that fall overboard difficult to see.
@charlesmartin1121
@charlesmartin1121 3 года назад
WTF was up with the thought process behind that brilliant idea. Maybe think about camouflaging your ships first. Then worry about the uniforms of the tiny figures manning them.
@rickn8or
@rickn8or 3 года назад
@@charlesmartin1121 because all the Cool Kids were getting digital camo, and the Navy wanted some too. But to top it off, it wasn't approved for shipboard use. Then they replaced the Blueberries with GREEN(ish) digital camo. WTAF? If I wanted to wear green camo, I would have joined the Crayon Eaters or the Army.
@charlesmartin1121
@charlesmartin1121 3 года назад
@@rickn8or I could see naval aviators or riverine guys using the green camouflage. Then again if your sailing in plankton rich, steel green waters--the green camouflage will probably make it as hard to spot someone in the drink as the blueberry uniform in blue waters. Or maybe not.
@richardlahan7068
@richardlahan7068 3 года назад
And the uniforms were not fire retardant. They melted when exposed to fire.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 3 года назад
Smurf Berry! 😁 .... I'd say the "tiger stripe" style USAF format was 🤔. Were 🐯 a big deal on USAF bases?
@dmac2899
@dmac2899 3 года назад
Instead of making a camo that can only blend in in one area such as desert or woodland, the army just decided to make an all purpose camo that blends in to nothing.
@Bespelled22
@Bespelled22 2 года назад
They should have just gone all black like a ninja
@eaglet6703
@eaglet6703 2 года назад
It blend in well with the moon environment.should give it to space force
@bradleyb.425
@bradleyb.425 Год назад
B.S. DMac! Didn't you see the soldier wearing ACUs on grandma's couch? No, you didn't because the soldier blended in PERFECTLY on grandma's couch, making him invisible to the SGM hunting for him.
@nickumstead
@nickumstead Год назад
@@eaglet6703 Holy shit you might have just found a use for Ucp xD
@keithadams812
@keithadams812 Год назад
I did training in Utah and it was perfect camouflage for the sage brush.. The only place it ever worked
@horseman1956
@horseman1956 Год назад
It's been some 45 years since I served, but I remember our uniform choices were green, green and green. Solid green, cotton pants, shirts, t-shirt, jacket and a hat. Everything was green. Lots and lots of green. Our plate carrier was a 12 ounce cotton shirt. Want more protection? Put on your field jacket. Basic black combat boots. Bates brand. Want boots for cold weather? Add a second layer of socks. Hot weather gear? Take off your field jacket. Need waterproof boots? Try to stay out of the water. As to additional gear... basic pack, no molle (alice system), a canteen, a poncho, your rifle, etc. If you were lucky, you might find a pair of gloves. Advanced weapon's optics? Well, I remember some guys wore glasses. Does that count? I served during the transition from c-rats to the first MRE's. Fewer calories and no self-heating chemicals. You want hot food? Build a fire. The accessory pack came with a small pack of cigarettes. I'm guessing the military doesn't issue those anymore. Things have certainly changed.
@JohnDoe-wt9ek
@JohnDoe-wt9ek Год назад
Would've preferred that to the endless amount of gear and equipment they threw at us. Except the MRE's. I'd still keep my MRE's over the C-RAT's. I know those were bad for the most part... Then again, if a soldier is hungry enough...
@hellacoorinna9995
@hellacoorinna9995 Год назад
Well there was that rebellious 'chocolate chip' phase, when you guys went into a sandbox 'coz Israel was getting antsy....
@delanorrosey4730
@delanorrosey4730 Год назад
Wasn't that around the time when a soldier's issued toilet paper was a fobbit Sgt. Major's printed orders?
@nostalgicvibes3122
@nostalgicvibes3122 Год назад
The infantry has long changed since 1865 grandpa, you can go to sleep now
@anthonyhulse1248
@anthonyhulse1248 Год назад
@@nostalgicvibes3122 apparently manners have changed too
@thelast0102
@thelast0102 3 года назад
I think those would blend in really great in the blue-ish mountains of Nowherestan
@ponraul1221
@ponraul1221 3 года назад
They actually worked pretty well in Korengal
@LMArcher
@LMArcher 3 года назад
They look like they would blend in pretty good in snow environments
@Maryland_Kulak
@Maryland_Kulak 3 года назад
It works pretty well in the United States desert southwest like Arizona. DCU doesn’t work there at all. We should have a conversation about DCUs.
@DavidLLambertmobile
@DavidLLambertmobile 3 года назад
It would work in a 100sq mi area of Eastern Europe 20yr ago, after a combat engagement.
@shilopnamreg6468
@shilopnamreg6468 3 года назад
@@Maryland_Kulak Yeah let us know when the army needs to deploy in Arizona, that thought process is how we end up with this UCP/ACU garbage.
@tireachan6178
@tireachan6178 3 года назад
I remember seeing the ACU/UCP uniform in Shannon Airport when I was there with The Irish Army. US Troops were stopping off in Ireland on the way to Iraq. Me and my buddies couldn't believe what we were seeing and had a joke with some of the Americans who were saying they would trade uniforms with us and give us a hand job to balance the deal 🤣.
@sartainja
@sartainja Год назад
Good one.
@timblack6422
@timblack6422 Год назад
Yup, Shannon was the stop there and back
@CombatMedic00
@CombatMedic00 Год назад
Nice haha I was one of them in UCP 13 years ago. The shot glass I got fell into the garbage disposal a few years ago. Cheers!
@tireachan6178
@tireachan6178 Год назад
@@CombatMedic00 I was at Shannon in 06 and 07. Remember the first glimpse of US Army Personnel in the new uniform and was thinking where are they deploying now? Can't be a desert! That shot glass had seen some mileage by the time it was decommissioned by the sounds of it, Sláinte!
@MrEvanfriend
@MrEvanfriend Год назад
When I stopped at Shannon on the way back from Iraq, it was the middle of the night, and the only people there were two bartenders who were clearly not happy to have to serve 400-odd Marines who hadn't had a drink in seven months.
@johnm5131
@johnm5131 3 года назад
last year, I was on a hill looking for my Marines. I asked my E4 where they were. They said, I dunno, but they are probably by those Army guys on that hill (about a mile away). Could see those army guy in their camo like they were human Flares. We pulled out a scope and noticed the MARPAT guys next to them. How in God's Name did the army make a camo pattern visible from outer-space for $300,000,000?????????????
@michag4337
@michag4337 Год назад
It's meant for urban areas. Go walk around a major city in ACU and you'll die. low light setting you can't pick them out against the concrete roads, or buildings. ACU is the best camo ever if we're fighting in American cities....the issue is Iraq cities do not look like American cities. So yea keep a few pairs of ACU's around incase you ever need to fight in an American city.
@mattandrews8528
@mattandrews8528 Год назад
“$”
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 Год назад
Remember the Bradley IFV development debacle? This is about par for the course.
@HeyZeus096
@HeyZeus096 Год назад
Never was in the military but played a lot of paintball. Guy had a set of this camo he got surplus. Everyone else had hunting camo or old-school green/brown/black military camo. He stuck out no matter where he was, literally could not hide. Worst camo I've ever seen. He could have worn a dark color t-shirt and blue jeans and probably been harder to spot.
@MVK_GS
@MVK_GS 2 года назад
My SF company hated the ACU. So much so that, prior to deploying to Afghanistan, the company secured funds to buy the desert patterned BDUs and then sent them away to get them modified by removing the lower packets of the uniform top and placing them on the shoulders. Also, the pockets at the chest and shoulders were angled for easy access. Each of us got four sets of these.
@jameswells554
@jameswells554 Год назад
That was pretty much the Group Standard for a long time; well that and standing around in our PCs with our hands in our pockets leaned up against a wall.
@resolute123
@resolute123 Год назад
Local National tailor shop did that for us when we were in country, but RIP back to our duty station, CSM told us we'd have to alter them back to they were. Why? We're gonna wear BDUs and we'd just need to alter just one set for the welcome home ceremony. Nope, all 4 four sets and to be back to default settings. What BS.
@Fullmetal_christo
@Fullmetal_christo Год назад
RAID mod, for the win.
@robertsmith6068
@robertsmith6068 Год назад
@@resolute123 we had a US brigadier general get all upset because a couple of guys had sleeve pockets on their BDUs.
@jameswells554
@jameswells554 Год назад
@@robertsmith6068 and the "Don't get caught walking around looking like you're some kind of SF Operator" speech from the CSM was hot on its tail I bet.
@robertakerson7186
@robertakerson7186 3 года назад
The first time I saw the UCP pattern was on a training manoever when some of the HQ brass wearing the new stuff came out to the field to observe the BDU-wearing troops. They stuck out like a sore thumb against the environment, and it was immediately obvious to even the newest and dumbest troops that the UCP was terrible. Did nobody in charge ever LOOK at this stuff? But I am confident that the folks responsible got big promotions.
@Joseywales414
@Joseywales414 3 года назад
Yep, so right !
@DisHappah
@DisHappah 2 года назад
You can thank a US Army officer who designed the MARPAT and tried selling the design and patten to the US Army which they turned down but the USMC was happy to accept.
@ColonelBragg
@ColonelBragg Год назад
From what I understand the idiots in charge wanted it because they thought it looked "cool" not even kidding that was why this trash was put into service.
@MrEvanfriend
@MrEvanfriend Год назад
The Marine Corps got two cool new camouflage patterns, and the Army was upset that we looked better than they did (helpful hint: we always do. That's why y'all come out with new service/dress uniforms every 15 minutes while ours have been more or less the same for the last century), so, in trying to keep up, they rushed some new shit that sounded kinda cool into service without actually stopping to think about if it would be any good.
@anrit5972
@anrit5972 Год назад
It’s way more likely that brown paper bags, cash, a nod and a wink were involved.
@quarterjukebox208
@quarterjukebox208 3 года назад
We had the BDU woodland ..Those were the days when the Army was actually camouflaged.
@NYG5
@NYG5 3 года назад
from what I hear BDUs were also durable as hell and pretty comfortable, just had the drawback of having to starch them
@davidarnold2532
@davidarnold2532 3 года назад
@@NYG5 we weren't really supposed to starch them, as far as wear and tear....summer BDU would rip on anything, winter BDUs would last, and that's all I used to buy at clothing and sales.
@LoneWolf051
@LoneWolf051 3 года назад
@@NYG5 I use BDUs as my camping and bushcraft clothing, they're fairly cheap and yes they are very durable/practical
@NYG5
@NYG5 3 года назад
@@LoneWolf051 surplus or new production bdus?
@11bc22
@11bc22 3 года назад
Summer bdu was the best
@MD_Films
@MD_Films 3 года назад
They never actually tested the UCP pattern. During testing, a pattern called “all over brush” in desert pattern won for the most effective camo, and then, for literally no reason, they made UCP pattern and issued it. They said it was a digitized version of another pattern they tested in Urban camo but it’s pretty obvious it’s just a MARPAT re-color, and even if it was a digitized version of another pattern, it was literally the worst pattern out of all of the ones they tested, so that didn’t even make sense.
@warmonkey3216
@warmonkey3216 3 года назад
Pretty sure they selected it because it worked the best under night vision. Obviously though the taliban werent using night vision
@DrConfed
@DrConfed 3 года назад
@@warmonkey3216 no they actually tested that too and multicam was the best at that
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
I liked multicam but it wasn't very tough. I destroyed 1 uniform per month in Afghanistan.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 3 года назад
@@warmonkey3216 Kind of sort of. From what I read, they took the best light, dark, and medium colors from testing under IR/night vision and combined those on a MARPAT/CADPAT template and made UCP out of it. As I understand it, UCP was never really tested as a whole pattern, just the separate colors individually.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 3 года назад
@@GruntProof But that's the uniform cut/manufacture and not the camo pattern. Weren't the original OCPs/Multicam just a slightly modified ACU pattern/cut uniform? From what I understand, since the adoption of the original ACU in UCP, the Army has stuck with the ACU cut uniform but with incremental improvements over the years.
@khamen723
@khamen723 2 года назад
BDU, ACP, PCP... I’m confused
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣 Battle Dress Uniform: usually woodland and the army's best uniform ACU: Army Combat Uniform. Includes all of our current patterns. UCP: Universal Cammo Pattern, the grandma's couch pattern. OCP: Operational Cammo Pattern, the newest pattern that looks like Multicam. I know....🤣
@HeyGuy4321
@HeyGuy4321 2 года назад
phenylcyclidine is the best one there.
@flatmoon6359
@flatmoon6359 Год назад
Me2
@flatmoon6359
@flatmoon6359 Год назад
British Army changed cammo pattern twice in 60 years.DPM to MTP, job done.Till we go Space Army this will work,DPM Black/Grayish will work.
@traveller4790
@traveller4790 Год назад
@Based F To this day I don't understand how ANYONE thought that 'chocolate chip' DCU would camouflage anyone out in the desert! Same goes for the three-color DCUs that followed after the Gulf War - if you want to be camouflaged out in the desert, then a plain khaki uniform works best.
@petecoppola5428
@petecoppola5428 3 года назад
I thought the black beret for everybody and every uniform was the dumbest thing that the Army came out with, until the ACUs.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
"hold my beer, Shinseki" 😂
@nonpartisangunowner4524
@nonpartisangunowner4524 3 года назад
I kinda like the beret, but just because I think it looks cool. But I understand that in the US Military it’s not traditional, can be very uncomfortable in the heat, and has no history outside of special units. Also, we’re not allowed to stow it folded under our epaulettes like the British and it’s easier to tuck a garrison cover under one’s belt. Is it too late to give it back to the Rangers?
@petecoppola5428
@petecoppola5428 3 года назад
@@nonpartisangunowner4524 Not to mention, doesn't keep the sun out of your eyes like a patrol cap would.
@RalphReagan
@RalphReagan 3 года назад
Lol
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 года назад
@@ZildjianMan30 Lol.
@sgtpickles1319
@sgtpickles1319 Год назад
MARPAT is like the improved ACU that was actually field tested. Two patterns that actually make sense, buttons that can be replaced in the field, sewn on name tapes, and ditching the million extra pockets you don't need.
@Sandhill1988
@Sandhill1988 Год назад
I'm from the BDU generation 1988 to 2001 and there was no reason to switch from the BDU it was perfectly fine and it actually worked very well. For Desert environment I can see something different but even then we use the chocolate chip pattern which seem to work fine.
@cancerenhancer8834
@cancerenhancer8834 3 года назад
I wore BUD's my entire enlistment, yeah I'm old, I had no issues with them. Fairly comfortable, especially the summer BDU, durable and looked sharp all pressed up. Ease of repair was nice too. Huge rip? No problem, a patch and a Frankenstein stitch, back in service. My NCOs hated me.
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 Год назад
I am not exaggerating when I say that I ripped the crotch of ever ACU's I had except for one or two garrison sets of uniform. The rest were stitched and always ripping, especially in the field when you are on the move playing GI Joe. The crusties would not shut up about the DCU and BDU; I missed that uniform by a literal month. I was one of the first classes that were issued those monstrosities.
@samuel-myshells8959
@samuel-myshells8959 Год назад
If I remember someone told me one big reason why the Army went with this pattern was for urban environments for urban warfare. But turned out mostly deployments during its run were out in the desert or the woods thus making this camouflage stick out like a sore thumb….
@MrChickennugget360
@MrChickennugget360 Год назад
That and only American cities look remotely like ACUs. Iraq is mostly mud brick or cinderblock. ACU did not blend in with Iraqi cities and towns.
@rtz549
@rtz549 3 года назад
Velcro wears out and breaks by it's very nature and design. Either the hooks break or the loops break.
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 3 года назад
Then you get bitched out for cuffing your floppy sleeves
@patmcbride9853
@patmcbride9853 3 года назад
When I played paintball, one guy showed up in a gray shirt and gray pants. We laughed, and then he disappeared once he was in the brush.
@dyerhouston9228
@dyerhouston9228 3 года назад
The US Army: If it doesn't make sense, we're doing it...........those words always describe it!
@willwalker3150
@willwalker3150 3 года назад
The navy still beats the army for the most useless camo pattern of all time(the dreaded blueberry blue digital camo)
@0xFF48
@0xFF48 3 года назад
It was an incredibly effective pattern, in the event you dove overboard. Except you couldn't wear it on a ship due to no flame resistance. In the field it's stupid for different branches to wear different uniforms, makes it super easy to identify who is the jtac or other embedded. At garrison wear whatever works for your branch.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 года назад
@@0xFF48 My dad was issued BDUs in 91"... As was every Soldier, Sailor, Marine, and Airman. I think all branches need to bring back OD garrison wear for all branches.
@treerat7631
@treerat7631 3 года назад
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 actually after the ocp disasters Congress said ok no more ever branch wareing different camo so the air force,army,and space force ware ocp aka scorpion the us military version of mulit cam the marines mrapt and navy a modified version of mrap . The cost guard is technically in home land security
@rannenw6207
@rannenw6207 3 года назад
Never had a uniform that was fire resistant. Coveralls lost that shit after the first wash. You had to wear a fire fighting suit anyway and if you were on S.C.A.T team you were on the skin of the ship manning a gun anyway. Stupid shit ever.
@LavenderSystem69
@LavenderSystem69 3 года назад
And there's a foreign military that has an obnoxious cyan to gold gradient digital camo with some fucking white star-looking flecks all over it. Can't remember for the life of me what country that was... all I remember was seeing that shit and thinking to myself "oh my god, a worse camo pattern than UCP"
@toddsmith293
@toddsmith293 3 года назад
I remember when the stupid beret decision was made in 99' It was an insult to the Rangers and a TOTAL waste of the taxpayers money. The sad fact is that a lot of troops look utterly stupid wearing a beret. The BDU cap was far better.
@warmonkey3216
@warmonkey3216 3 года назад
Thank god they brought the cap back
@a.o.3457
@a.o.3457 3 года назад
Not only rangers but infantry air borne,and green berets.those are earned not issued.I totally agree with you, if you didn't earn it ,then its a Patrol cap for you
@jimmyjohnson7027
@jimmyjohnson7027 9 месяцев назад
Berets look good if they are properly shaped. American berets are far too big, the flap should only reach as far as the top of the ear, perhaps about a third of the way down.
@Jake-dh9qk
@Jake-dh9qk 3 года назад
You are absolutely right about the vest being insufficient against insurgents in sandals. There was a recent video that surfaced on the web showing Turkish soldiers fully armed and armored with modern equipment getting completely obliterated by several insurgents in sandals. They were pretty much equal in number but the turkish soldiers were hiking up a mountain and got ambushed and was too tired and slow to react. What ended up happening was the entire squad got decimated from less than 30 meters away, all from the gopro footage uploaded by insurgents.
@news_internationale2035
@news_internationale2035 Год назад
The US should have maybe stuck with the PASGT vest. And just optionally wear a plate carrier and or load bearing vest on top of it. Maybe upgraded the Kevlar to a better fibre as the years went on.
@news_internationale2035
@news_internationale2035 Год назад
@@MarekSVK81 Key words "plate carrier".
@DocLois2010
@DocLois2010 Год назад
We wore plain green uniforms post Vietnam era in service in OZ. All buttons. No zips, no velcro. We had no trouble disappearing into the bush, and had plenty of pockets. All items of clothing, webbing and boots were a one for one swap if damaged and without complaint from the QM. Seemed like a good system.
@fatcat3211
@fatcat3211 3 года назад
I never understood why woodland BDUs needed to be replaced.
@TheSilentWonder
@TheSilentWonder 2 года назад
"Don't be thinking logically in the army, that'll get you into trouble" 🤣 very true mate, very true. Same thing in the British army. Don't think logically, don't even think, just follow orders and take the bollocking that comes after, because you followed orders! Loving your videos man, glad I found your channel 👍
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 2 года назад
Truth. Thanks!
@Jonisco1
@Jonisco1 Год назад
Same thing is in Finnish army. Don't use own brains😅
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM 3 года назад
people who earned money with that abomination should go to jail. 20 years minimum.
@jeffstull2534
@jeffstull2534 3 года назад
Better yet, 5 winters of field maneuvers at Graf with old shelter halves.
@ronshulman9840
@ronshulman9840 3 года назад
There should be an investigation into that. I am sure purchasing agent never had to wear that sticky and flammable uniform.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
There was, but of course no one was actually charged
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 3 года назад
Nonsense! Our government is infaliable!
@couchcamperTM
@couchcamperTM 3 года назад
@@jed-henrywitkowski6470 too big to fail? xD
@constancemiller3753
@constancemiller3753 3 года назад
That dude blending in with the granny couch. Yay contractors!
@pisuarez
@pisuarez 3 года назад
I was thinking about getting the MEDIUM RUCK!! Now that I saw that you think it rocks, I definitely will!! Are you planning on making a video about it? Your thoughts, pros and cons, etc... ? By the way, congrats on the 10,000 subs!!! Your videos are great!!
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
Thank you sir! Yes, the MED MOLLE ruck is awesome!
@andrewl6899
@andrewl6899 3 года назад
I love the medium ruck Just wish it had more pockets.
@Heywoodinator
@Heywoodinator 3 года назад
I second that. Please make a video on the medium ruck it is really hard to find educated views and informed opinions on it, and I think that you would do an excellent job.
@TheJoeyboots
@TheJoeyboots 3 года назад
Get a large ruck. Medium is still kinda short on space.
@TheJoeyboots
@TheJoeyboots 3 года назад
Medium may not as big as you think. Large holds what most campers packs do. See if you can see one first before you buy. They are good packs actually. You will need the frame also its one size fits all. Parts are becoming scarce now that all the new packs are phased in.
@shannonreed9808
@shannonreed9808 Год назад
Never been in the Army, but my dad joined late in life and was in the territorial Army for 12 years, so in the late 70's and early 80's i was running around in some gear he brought home. I always loved the camo pattern the British Army had back then, especially some of the slightly lighter shades of it.. It worked perfectly, and i still think it was one of the most affective camo patterns. Apologies for lack of technical names 😅.
@davestuddert4392
@davestuddert4392 3 года назад
When you referred to "pogue" at 13:06 I immediately subbed. Being Australian, I didn't know Americans used that term too! Reminded me of the good old days : ) Keep up the good work!
@warmonkey3216
@warmonkey3216 3 года назад
Pretty sure its a term US infantry came up with in vietnam POG "Person Other than Grunt
@davestuddert4392
@davestuddert4392 3 года назад
@@warmonkey3216 Thanks for the clarification. I never knew the origin. I thought REMF's was more a more common used by the US Army.
@jamescrowe7892
@jamescrowe7892 3 года назад
Pogue is also used to refer to someone useless. It is used by USN & USMC, also.
@gobblox38
@gobblox38 3 года назад
When I was in Iraq from 2004-2005, I followed every update of the upcoming uniform pattern. From what I saw, multicam was ahead of the rest, I expected this to be the new pattern. I was shocked when out of nowhere, the ACU was announced. It looked like a dumb ass attempt to copy the marine uniform. I had the same gripe about the chest pockets, they slant the wrong way. I was pissed that they removed the lower shirt pockets, I used those all the time even with body armor. I thought the idea for the collar was interesting, so I put my collar up (I was wearing DCUs at the time) to try out the concept. That was a huge mistake, I never had chafing that bad. After that, I folded my collar under the shirt so none of it touched my neck. For the velcro, I always bought extra nametapes and patches for each uniform and just left them on. While everyone else had problems with their patches falling off, mine held strong. It was totally worth the cost of a few extra patches vs a completely new shirt every few weeks or months. Towards my last few years in, the army finally decided to allow sewn on patches. I immediately made the alterations. One good thing about the change was the patrol cap. I never liked the winter patrol cap because it always looked like garbage. During my first week on deployment to Iraq, while we were staged in Kuwait, my platoon sergeant insisted that we wear the patrol cap (remember, DCUs only had a winter patrol cap) instead of the boonie cap because he thought it looked better. He did not care at all that it was hot during the day and it absolutely sucked to wear that damn thing. I never understood the desire to place looks over function in the army.
@George-pf8zb
@George-pf8zb 3 года назад
that velcro on the ACU's...
@steveturner3999
@steveturner3999 3 года назад
Just discovered your channel and it is my new “favorite”! Thank you for service and thank you for the knowledge about the gear you lived with
@calanbaker1968
@calanbaker1968 3 года назад
Damn! That guy was leggit camo on Grandma's couch
@luvr381
@luvr381 3 года назад
I've often wondered if I missed being a grunt, or just missed being young enough to do it. Then I heard you say "The army decided to make it better" and I remembered why I don't miss army POGs.
@Riceball01
@Riceball01 3 года назад
As bad as the ACU was, at least the Army did eventually listen and (from what I understand) gradually made improvements to it. Compare that to the Air Force who sent their prototype ABUs to their Spec Ops guys like the PJs, for field testing and ignored all of their advice. And, as far as I know, they made no changes for the longest time to them until they finally ditched them once the Army went over the OCP uniform.
@rahkshifan99
@rahkshifan99 3 года назад
Free ballin' all the way to Baghdad! 😂
@fatandfurious5940
@fatandfurious5940 3 года назад
I wish i could have seen that vidéo several years ago before i bought four set of each apparel you showed us today for my "zombie" kit war... wore them several times as a tourist in a private range with military collectors buddies then replaced them all with OCP or plain colors... people were mostly laughing at me because of the camo but were assured not to lose me as i was the only one they could clearly spot in the middle of the field...
@sambrandt3688
@sambrandt3688 3 года назад
I have to admit I snickered a few times with some of your comments and felt for you and your buddies over other comments. But what I came away with from everything you said was How much I missed my one color OD green Fatigues I wore in the USAF. I hated those things when I was in, I miss them now though. Simple and to the point and they worked (at least for me they did). But I guess it is the plight of all enlisted (and maybe a few officers) to commiserate or complain about their conditions. I completely enjoy your channel. I hope you had a good Thanksgiving and are looking forward to a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year with family, friends and fellow brothers and sisters in arms. Carry on Mister. May God watch over you and keep you safe.
@GryphonIndustrial
@GryphonIndustrial 3 года назад
OD is just sexy. Austrians still field a solid OD uniform last I checked.
@sambrandt3688
@sambrandt3688 3 года назад
@@GryphonIndustrial OHHH NOOOO I am NOT sexy in OD, not even when I was younger LOL. Those darn uniforms wore like iron though. I can remember working on a B-52 one day and instead of walking all the way around the nose to the other side. I figured I would just go under. So I did, I looked up and thought I was clear of the belly to stand up. When I did I jammed my back right into one of the many belly antennas. I ended up with a hole in my back, a hole in my T-Shirt with blood and my OD shirt looked as if nothing happened. Not even a slight tear or scuff or fabric pull. I was amazed to say the least. I learned a very valuable lesson that day. From then on everytime I approached a B-52 I would come over and scratch its chin and say good morning. I never had an accident from then on. I miss my toys.
@GryphonIndustrial
@GryphonIndustrial 3 года назад
@@sambrandt3688 Thats an impressive beast to work around! I'm always running into things. Mostly with my head but its nice and hard. Only in museums but I'm glad I got to see my two favorite aircraft in person. F4 Phantom and F8 Crusader.
@mrnobody5381
@mrnobody5381 3 года назад
I used mine for the straw man that guards my chickens. His name is joe and he does a good job. He never sleeps, and is always watching out for predators. The chickens appreciate joe and roost on his shoulder.
@indy197905
@indy197905 Год назад
There's something to be said for old school uniforms. I love the old bdu's. I have reproduction WWII field gear. It's better at camoflage than that stuff you have there. Saw a video where someone was testing various camo's from history and OD still works surprisingly well.
@waltersobchak3903
@waltersobchak3903 3 года назад
You should do a vid on the old issue bdu/dcu systems and the old gen Molle/Alice gear👍
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 3 года назад
I used and still use BDU's. Simple design, very loose fit, enough pockets, sturdy fabric and buttons. The buttons never came off. I wore them on my hikes into Hurtgen Forest many times. The Woodland camo pattern worked well in fall and winter, because of the brown and tan colors. Woodland was a bit pattern, so it worked a medium and long ranges well, less and short ranges. Alice medium backpack worked well, only the waist band did not relieved the shoulder straps sufficient. So I lifted the packed up, while carrying it, behind my butt. In the end, not too comfortable. Enough room for a 3 days hike with tent, mattress and sleeping bag. The open frame at your back ventilated well. The pack sagged outwards and that made the pack more heavy to carry. Because the point of gravity moved outward to much. Causing me to walk like an old man, leaning forward.
@PhantomM16
@PhantomM16 3 года назад
The one time I had a button come off, it took me all of 5 mins (if that) to sew a new one back on. So much better than the shit zipper that loved to break
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
Dude I just hiked and camped in the Hürtgen forest last summer. Amazing place!
@mardiffv.8775
@mardiffv.8775 3 года назад
@@GruntProof You are welcome. I live in the Netherlands, only 200 km/ 125 miles away from the Hürtgen Forest.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
Cool! I have a friend in Boxtel. Holland is awesome!
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 3 года назад
They're pretty decent when you dye them with Rit Dye. Brown for winter, apple green for summer
@steverodgers8049
@steverodgers8049 3 года назад
In Al Rhamadi with 2/28 BCT July 05 -Jun 06 and the ACU's fell apart as we wore them. Plus it was a great signal that we were the "new guys" since 2/2 before us wore DCUs!!
@hammerhound168
@hammerhound168 3 года назад
exscuse my ignorance, I got out in the mid 80's. But did that large ruck not replace the duffle bag? We kept a basic load out in the med alice pack everything else went into the duffle bag when in the field. if in a armored unit we tied it ontop the APC (M113) . otherwise ( straight leg units) it got carted off in a duese an a half. Which we often did not see for a month. a grunt thats not bathed for 30 days can out funk a skunk!
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
It could have, but no
@irondog8250
@irondog8250 3 года назад
Hello, I'm not nor have ever been a soldier, but I often wear certain items of kit, and I'm always thinking to myself exactly what you said re velcro vs buttons! Velcro is great for five minutes, buttons are just great! This was very interesting to me, Thanks.
@MilitaryHistoryGearReview
@MilitaryHistoryGearReview 3 года назад
All your complaints about the ACU are spot on, but the number one sign to me that the ACU was designed by civilians was that the flag and "US ARMY" tapes were velcro-ed on. Like, honestly, was I going to switch over to the Polish army mid deployment? and I would be in such a hurry I couldn't bother to get a new flag sewn on? Likewise with the US ARMY tapes. Newsflash: No other branch wore ACUs. Even the ANP and ABP had better uniforms lol
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L 3 года назад
I was issued that crap when I went to Afghanistan in 2011 as active duty Navy. They wanted us to blend in with the Army.
@keithorbell8946
@keithorbell8946 3 года назад
I’d be interested to hear your views on the British MTP as opposed to Desert DPM clothing.
@bigfoot3866
@bigfoot3866 3 года назад
That grandmas couch pic was hilarious.
@richardreser150
@richardreser150 3 года назад
Biggest POS I was ever issued... I would agree that a lot of the snivel gear was much better than when I first came in. Especially as an 11B it would have been nice to have had the new stuff.
@piedmontwildlifeandoutdoors
Just bought some ACU a couple of months ago. Cheap military issued suit. Use dark green dye....1/2 cup salt....1/2 cup vinegar....bring to a boil....add suit and let rest for a hour. Turns out a good green camo pattern. Buying discontinued British DPM uniforms now.
@xvsj5833
@xvsj5833 3 года назад
Love Tutorial , Thank You for your service, sacrifice and courage 🇺🇸
@DL-fy5yr
@DL-fy5yr 3 года назад
When you said "a lot of guys were going commando and we'd still rip our crotches out" dude, that happened to me at motorpool once. We were running 9 line med drills and practicing buddy carrying... of course it was raining and it was ft Campbell in feb... cold af... keep that in mind... i swear that the acu when wet might as well be toilet paper because i kneeled down to shoulder carry my buddy and my pants split from one end to the other. Of course, I'm a cool guy and i don't let underwear slow me down ever... so everything was on display. We had everyone attending that day; grunts, pog's, men, women... the whole family... i didn't realize that my shit split until after i started running with my buddy on my shoulders. My battle buddies were cringing and laughing in front of me, they were pointing at me... i couldn't figure it out until my platoon sgt screamed "lehane! Your dick is out!"... i stopped, looked down, then dropped my buddy flat on the ground (he was fine, he let me know my ass was showing too, before busting out laughing.) Didn't get ptsd from Afghanistan, but i still have nightmares from that🤣
@oscargrouch7962
@oscargrouch7962 3 года назад
Did you get any smiles and winks from women? From men?
@DL-fy5yr
@DL-fy5yr 3 года назад
@@oscargrouch7962 more pointing and laughing 😆... like i said; it was a cold rainy day. The groundhog was staying in for winter.
@DigitalCleaner
@DigitalCleaner 2 года назад
Great video! "Can you hear the Sergeant Major? I can!" freaking hilarious!
@Gorgoth_siberian
@Gorgoth_siberian Год назад
subscribbed! caught many lols, and vid is just great, very informative and useful to know, thanks a lot!
@J3AD
@J3AD 3 года назад
i miss my BDUs, sold most after active/reserve time ended, still have desert bdu top from gulf war. we got them before we got on plane to come home, had to hand sew on tags for plane right back to our base, so the press saw us getting off plane with desert uniforms on that we didn't have for the war lol
@billb9806
@billb9806 3 года назад
Have you seen the video covering these by Brent0331? His buddy died some ACU's with Rit Brand, Apple Green color and the results were amazing! You should look up others videos on dyeing the ACUs. Apple Green is the color that really makes them blend in with the foliage and grasses. I am left wondering why apple green is not part of the uniform color scheme.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
I will look. Thanks!
@erikvels3606
@erikvels3606 3 года назад
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
@thomasguerrero7289
@thomasguerrero7289 2 года назад
I use the ACU for winter , I think it’s a good winter camo with the cold weather system mixed with white camo . I never served in the military unfortunately but BDU in the summer and ACU both work for me . As for the ruck sack with the patrolmans back pack is perfect for me , I’m able to pack what I need then able to down size to make my load lighter once I meet me choice of camp . Of course I’m not out on military 2 week excursion but the medium is also nice on certain circumstances . I kinda just grew out of the ALICE system personally but Thanks for the great videos , your channel is cool and the information from someone that has the knowledge of all the gear is helpfull . Thanks
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 2 года назад
Cool! I agree they work in dirty snow areas. I argue that the quality dropped with that generation. They fell apart after 1 month of use for us.
@Svenne_Kloppe
@Svenne_Kloppe 3 года назад
I blend very well in the norwegian snowy granite mountains with pine woods in my ucp ecwcs gen3. When US troops are joining the winter training up here with their new OCP uniforms, they need to pull a white wintercamo over it. By the way, my profile picture was taken on a spot where navy seals were training every spring in Norway.😁
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
Cool! Yea like the ICS tents in UCP they'll work in snowy woods. My arguments against how well they hold up remain though.
@509Gman
@509Gman 3 года назад
Agreed, works well in winter woods in Alaska too. Only time I wear it. OCP for “shoulder seasons” between killing frost and first snowfall or breakup and leaf out in the spring, then woodland patterns for the summer. Multicam Tropic looks interesting tho.
@jojoemcgeejoe457
@jojoemcgeejoe457 3 года назад
I remember when we changed from the lightweight "rip stop" cammies to the woodlands. Hated the woodlands with a passion. Heavy. Hot. Water sponging. Especially in the tropics (Okinawa). It was like wearing a sweat suit in the jungle. The rip stops would dry out by body heat within 30 minutes or so.
@dicktracy59
@dicktracy59 2 года назад
Yep. The highland ERDL pattern hides you the best in any kind of foliage.
@Ramcharger2Travel
@Ramcharger2Travel 3 года назад
I had the same problems with my gear in wilderness SAR. I had enough of the modern "plastic" gear and was researching what the old timers wore. Waxed or oiled canvas, leather, silk, wool, toggles and buttons.
@ferebeefamily
@ferebeefamily 3 года назад
Thank you for the video.
@REDTK421BLACK
@REDTK421BLACK 3 года назад
Reminds me of what we (the Albanians) dealt with when our ACU switched over early last decade: going from hand me down BDUs to BDUs with the bad decisions of the US ACU - Velcro closures, the arse pingers on cargo pockets, zips on the both the trews and the shirt. Thank God someone realised that some of those were silly ideas eventually.
@americanmilitiaman88
@americanmilitiaman88 3 года назад
When i was at Ft Leonard Wood for seabee equipment operator "A" school we wore the old utilities blue pants and sky blue shirt. The army instructors wore ACUs and were easier to spot than us in our uniforms.
@adamroberts8728
@adamroberts8728 3 года назад
Man, when you brought up patches sticking to each other just by walking besides one another I lost it hahaha.
@toddsmith293
@toddsmith293 3 года назад
I wear my old C--- Cap when I wear my old Class A's on veterans day to talk to school kids. NOT wearing the stupid beret.
@rickn8or
@rickn8or 3 года назад
Not wearing it because it's... French?
@voraciousblackstn
@voraciousblackstn 3 года назад
Nah, Garrison Cap looka so much better.
@HannibalsSurplusReviews
@HannibalsSurplusReviews 3 года назад
I wear the ECWCS lvl 3 too sleeping in fuzzy fleece jacket is awesome
@marco529
@marco529 3 года назад
PS Replacement "snap on" zippers are .50 cents at Walmart... And they come in grey!
@davidjohnston6929
@davidjohnston6929 Год назад
Good video sir , thanks a million for ur service I'm proud to say u kept us safe in usa when .deployed to overseas again thank you I like you guys deeply
@FiveTwoSevenTHR
@FiveTwoSevenTHR 3 года назад
BDU (Battle Dress Uniform) is a type of uniform cut. The pattern is M81 Woodland. BDUs can be found in other patterns including some early uniforms in UCP.
@GruntProof
@GruntProof Год назад
right, but we usually refer to BDUs as the woodland pattern and ACUs as the garbage
@athaphian
@athaphian 2 года назад
As a civilian I love the surplus ACU trousers. I recently got a second pair. Especially the huge cargo pockets I find very useful, I can cram a whole bunch of things in them, even water bottles.. I do find the camo quite fashionable too. Luckily I don’t need to blend into the environment xD. I use these in the outdoors while hiking or camping. Also, the waist cord/strap whatever it’s called, works pretty good for me so I don’t necessarily have to put a belt in, which I mostly still do anyway.
@notsocrates9529
@notsocrates9529 Год назад
The cord was made so that you could pull it hard and make it whip your buddies leg.
@smesaric
@smesaric 3 года назад
Unpopular opinion, but imo the army switching to OCP was at least as idiotic as the switch to UCP. Not because OCP is a terrible pattern but because we literally almost had a family of camouflage patterns like US4CES for desert, transition, and woodland, and the Army conducted a bunch of camouflage trials, but then decided to ditch all the research and go with OCP even after if was shown that multiple patterns will always be more effective than one. Hyperstealth has a bunch of good articles on it if anyone is interested in more info, just google "US4CES" I also think the problem with the velcro isn't really a fault in the design but the quality of the materials and the way it was used. Crye Precision and other companies have been making the very highest quality of combat uniforms for years now, and they all use velcro pockets and I have never heard anyone complain about those, and how they wish they had buttons (although recently zipper pockets have become popular for the shoulders such as on the gen 4 Crye combat top). Also these uniforms are only technically suppose to have a service life of 6 months so of course the velcro will fail if soldiers are using the same uniform for multiple years.
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L 3 года назад
I think the biggest factor the Army went with when deciding on one pattern vs multiple ones was cost of issue to all the troops.
@jayalbertz9756
@jayalbertz9756 3 года назад
Good job on your video, ive never been in the Military but enjoy the gear. I had the opportunity to get several sets of UCP's for free in my size, I thought these would work great for me as much time as i spend out in the woods. well those ideas faded quickly along with the color on the damn things and I remember wondering who talked Uncle Sam into buying this junk for our soldiers. BDUs are so much better and its hard to improve upon them, The UCPs I had nearly fell apart after a day of hiking in a swamp I can only imagine them after a day of combat! Thank you for your service sir.
@68able2
@68able2 Год назад
awesome video glad i watched it, Thank you for your service sir.
@calt2161
@calt2161 3 года назад
I absolutely hated the plastic ruck frames. They flex under load and compress your spine. Everyone in my team replaced them with metal alice frames because the plastic frames would flex, warp, and break with the loads we were carrying.
@jameson8682
@jameson8682 3 года назад
"All seven layers of the ecwcs wasn't meant to be worn at the same time" Me, remembering nighttime training in fort drum, ny: No, I think you're mistaken 🤣😭
@foxsurvivalgear6500
@foxsurvivalgear6500 3 года назад
That grandma's couch pic really got me 😂 You've talked about the ALICE pack vs Large Ruck. We're not a fan of the large ruck either, nor the FILBE, because of those plastic frames. But what's your take on the ILBE for civilians wanting a large modular, robust, and affordable pack?
@GruntProof
@GruntProof 3 года назад
I have ILBE at my cabin. Awesome pack!
@glock-hm3ro
@glock-hm3ro 3 года назад
great vid...thanks
@chrisperrien7055
@chrisperrien7055 Год назад
Personally, I think the UCP digital pattern would have worked if they kept the BDU construction , and added black to the pattern. "Digital Tiger stripe" BDU' s basically. Always liked that Nam pattern, Fierce looking and definitely would cover up oil stains
@vaenii5056
@vaenii5056 Год назад
The problem with Universal Camo Pattern is the colors. They are not commonly found in nature and especially the light colors really stand out if there is any vegetation around. It should tell you something that UCP works best as a mediocre snow camouflage - definitely does not seem ideal for uniform meant for every environment from lush forests to fields and deserts.
@DangerB0ne
@DangerB0ne Год назад
The Air Force fielded a digital UCP tiger stripe pattern like what you mentioned minus the black and it was a BDU cut with buttons. Unfortunately, ABUs (Airman Battle Uniform) were 100% a garrison uniform. Whenever we went to the sandbox we were issued multicam/OCP because big Air Force knew that ABUs were junk in real combat. You didn't blend in with shit, even on the flightline where your background is a grey hangar with a grey concrete apron, maybe some asphalt. I still have mine and have some fond memories in them but I'm glad we use OCPs now.
@mrunknown3414
@mrunknown3414 3 года назад
I’m so disgusted that majority of my army time was spent with this crap even as a kid I thought it looked silly
@Slippindisc
@Slippindisc Год назад
I remember being told that the light spots on ACU’s would pick up local soil and stain to match the environment. That was not the case.
@walmartsurvivaltv164
@walmartsurvivaltv164 3 года назад
Great video very informative. I use the pants and the assault pack in UCP for the job of being a homeless person that works and travels. Got the pants during a landscaping job in SLO county. The crotch came with a rip in it. I love the assault pack in UCP. The UCP assault pack does blend in when I'm sleeping behind buildings or in a concrete environment. I can stash it very easily in urban areas which wasn't the case when I used the woodland patrol pack.
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 2 года назад
Army: The Marines got a cool new uniform that works well and has futuristic digital camo? We want one too! So let's just basically do the same thing then-- Army: NO! Only one pattern! And buttons are a thing of the past, it's got to have velcro, lots of velcro!
@DisHappah
@DisHappah 2 года назад
You can thank a US Army officer who designed the MARPAT and tried selling the design and patten to the US Army which they turned down but the USMC was happy to accept.
@eanschaan9392
@eanschaan9392 2 года назад
I still find it comical that the military set out in trying to make a universal camo that would work for deserts and forests, but ended up walking away with a camo that only works in a half frozen quarry.
@dizdizzy8937
@dizdizzy8937 3 года назад
Thank you!
@nucleartestrabbit
@nucleartestrabbit Год назад
“You can’t roll your sleeves because that’s for holding your pens…” was the explanation I always got… My unit was also one of the ones that got to field test the new interceptor plate carrier with the side armor and the pull chord that people would yank on just to fuck with each other. Field test as in a deployment in Iraq no less. Because you loaded the plates from underneath the plates would slide down because you know gravity is a thing and running would only shake them down faster and they’d no longer be covering the vital areas they were supposed to be covering. All that held the plate up was a two inch piece of Velcro that often wouldn’t align properly with the other piece of Velcro. I ended up having to use a safety pin to hold my plate in the proper position. Was in the DFAC in Kuwait about to hop on the C130 into Iraq. A major sat at my table and so we struck up a small conversation. Apparently he was in charge of the program for fielding these vests and the civilians he was sitting with were the contractors selling them to the Army. I took the opportunity to mention this issue. This upset the contractor and he snidely told me “you should’ve paid attention to your training…” 1) the training lasted all of 15 minute and talked mostly about the pull chord. 2) no amount of training would’ve changed the fact that there wasn’t enough Velcro to hold the plate in properly. Let alone the fact Velcro wears out or that the materials themselves would stretch. 3) while I was smart enough to identify and resolve the problem how many other people do you think had the same issue, how many POGs do you think didn’t take the same measures I did. How many people might’ve died because they designed it poorly and got upset when they received actual feedback about a potentially serious issue. I mean when the plate would slump down the top was about halfway exposing my heart let alone my upper lungs. Honestly the fix was as easy as using bigger pieces of Velcro. But no… the problem wasn’t poor design choice it was because a stupid enlisted soldier didn’t pay attention in training. One principle the army taught me is you need to idiot proof everything because if something stupid can be done someone is going to do it. How many soldiers do you know who were half awake going 48+ hours without sleep during training anyways. If it’s an issue for one how many more do you think are having the issue and don’t recognize it or do nothing about it. These are our vests too so we are talking about lives. This was when I realized military contractors were absolute pieces of shit.
@highonimmi
@highonimmi Год назад
Alice ruck with frame and full set up is roughly 9 pounds for medium…large pack is 11. The frame is no more than 3 pounds tops. I know I had to supply troops with the damn things for 20 years. Of all the military and tactical packs I ever used, the Alice pack is still my go to. Even though I’ve been retired for 15 years.
@tehallanaz
@tehallanaz 3 года назад
Buttons on the back pockets so you don't sit as much.
@joeygoguen1525
@joeygoguen1525 3 года назад
I personally like it.My reasoning is I can get it dirt cheap for outdoors and camping stuff.
@GryphonIndustrial
@GryphonIndustrial 3 года назад
Yup, its half to 1/3rd the price of Woodland or DCU and nowhere near the OCP stuff. It looks decent if you dye it though.
@kekelaward
@kekelaward 3 года назад
Yeah, but it falls apart quicker than the old BDUs. So you might actually save money with older, but stronger stuff. I know the trashmen around here use them a lot for the reasons you mentioned.
@joeygoguen1525
@joeygoguen1525 3 года назад
@@kekelaward I have a ton of BDU's awesome pieces of gear.If you never heard of it check out the PCU (Protective Combat Uniform) it's the special forces precursor gear before the gen three ecwcs.
@jackstecker5796
@jackstecker5796 Год назад
I worked commercial nuclear security for a number of years. I ran our OPFOR team. Never served in the military. Fortunately, we had wide latitude on uniform selection depending on the exercise scenario. Everything from Woodlands, DCU, ACU, MULTICAM, MARPAT knockoffs, actual MARPATS, for my Maroots, if they wanted them, even civvie stuff, kakhis, polos, jeans, t-shirts, business casual, business formal, hunting orange, farmer bibs, waders. Hell, one time I had a guy wear a dress, a wig, and lipstick. I myself dressed in something that more or less resembled a security officer uniform from stuff I could approximate from Walmart stuff. If you could fake regional accents credibly, even better. Every team had something they were best at, whether it was sneaking around in the boonies, running "slick" (civvies, concealed pistol, couple small charges), etc. It was a weird, wild time.
@Phoenix_OP
@Phoenix_OP 3 года назад
I was in the Texas Guard where I had complained about the ACUs before I got the OCPs. I was in it from 2014-2020 where I did the transition from ACUs to OCPs so I can tell you my experience with the uniforms. My first personal complaint about the ACUs is there are no buttons on the sleeve pockets, which can make the pocket flaps not parallel with the main sleeve pocket. Another personal complaint of the ACUs is the Patrol Caps. They don't have ventilation holes and lots of layers, which can trap lots of heat on the head during the hot summer months. The final complaint is the Army Regular AR-670-1 won't allow me to roll up the sleeves in the hot summer months like the old BDUs. The worst is we still cannot roll up the sleeves on the OCPs and it had to be approved by local Leaders at their discretion. The uniform design of the OCPs is better than the ACUs. The only complaint is the OCPs Blouse still uses the zippers over the buttons, which made the heat isolated and it was bad for use in the Texas Heat.
@benjaminnielsen4288
@benjaminnielsen4288 3 года назад
Sorry, big Army, but I always thought those ACU's just looked like a digital computer threw up all over those guys. I hated the stupid velcrow patches. Just dumb. And I used to see guys walking around Bragg wearing those things and I thought they were just so hideous. And then I saw the new digital uniform that the AF was going to start making us wear.... Uuugghh. Good lord, where's my woodland and desert BDU's? Stop changing shit!
@Tandemi
@Tandemi 3 года назад
The UCP pattern wasn't bad after ten months of daily wear/getting it filthy. It kind of turned colors closer to the local dirt. But the difference between it and multicam is night and day. And, big surprise, the ACU has button pockets again! Still has the zipper though 🧐
@Bespelled22
@Bespelled22 2 года назад
Back in 89 we had the woodland camo field jacket with a button in liner. In the 82nd it was never once authorized as acceptable uniform. We wore the winter bdu shirt and hid that jacket liner underneath. I never got cold. We did everything with the absolute minimum of gear back then.
@ronniestanley75
@ronniestanley75 Год назад
I got out of the Army in 97. So glad I didn't have to wear ACUs. The idea of Velcro on uniforms cannot be criticized enough! The stretchy cords, the Velcro, the pattern............ It is 2022 and I STILL have three sets of BDUs (woodland) that I use as work clothes. They are durable, repairable, and comfortable. And buttons never wear out.
@deeman1643
@deeman1643 3 года назад
Its great when you can waste millions of the taxpayers money without complaint!
@rorto002
@rorto002 3 года назад
Absolutely and the "good-idea fairy" that came up with this garbage uniform should be fired. Not oh well Bob we're gonna have to re-assign you. NO Fire that bastard!
@rickn8or
@rickn8or 3 года назад
But the suppliers got paid, right??
@voraciousblackstn
@voraciousblackstn 3 года назад
You misspelled BILLIONS.
@charlesmartin1121
@charlesmartin1121 3 года назад
Ok so let's spend almost two years developing and selecting a universal camouflage pattern (winner Desert All Over Brush). Then we will completely ignore the findings, and randomly select a digitized pattern (because why should the Marines have all the fun), using the colors from one of the losing designs (Urban Track). And then lets just declare it the Army's new uniform without doing any tests at all. I love it when a fiasco comes together.
@NYG5
@NYG5 3 года назад
sounds just like the fucked up politics that got us the M14 instead of the M16 in the 50s
@charlesmartin1121
@charlesmartin1121 3 года назад
@@NYG5 I don't know whether politics were involved, but both procurements were fuck-ups for sure.
@NYG5
@NYG5 3 года назад
@@charlesmartin1121 I mean, at least the M14 is hella cool and actually works. The Army choosing UCP over literally any other camo pattern can only be explained by somebody gerting rich
@charlesmartin1121
@charlesmartin1121 3 года назад
@@NYG5 I have never seen a satisfactory explanation about exactly who chose the pattern and why it was just accepted without any testing. As for the M14 I agree, at least it was available for our troops when they needed something effective out to 800 meters in Afghanistan. Just watch the groups migrating to the left as the barrel heats up.
@IronskullGM
@IronskullGM 2 года назад
When I was deployed in Iraq, we saw the Air Force guys with their tiger stripe uniforms, funny part was, after about a month of sun bleaching their boots and Uniforms would turn a bright baby blue... We called them the Smurf Brigade and would whistle the song when we would walk past them LOL... But to be Honest, the only thing my ACU could conceal me on, was my grandmothers old floral pattern couch LOL
@NathanieI87
@NathanieI87 Год назад
I'd like to quote an US Army soldier who once commented on another video regarding this topic: "The universal camouflage pattern is so universal that it doesn't blend in anywhere "
@GruntProof
@GruntProof Год назад
🤣🤣🤣
@GryphonIndustrial
@GryphonIndustrial 3 года назад
Give me $5 billion and I'll give you desert tigerstripe and call it a day. TCU: Tiger Combat Uniform. If anyone knows a pusher in the DOD hit me up.
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