The Worst Fighting Games | Triple K.O. 

The reason I think Shaq Fu 2 is so much worse is that it's trying to lean into the "so bad it's good" reputation of the original. So, the original is like The Room and the sequel is more like the shit Tommy Wiseau tried to make afterward that was trying to be funny-bad...which never works.

Matt is gonna be an expert in this conversation

Justin wong- the expert player Maximillian dood- the expert commentator reviewer Matt mcmuscles- jank video games "my time to shine"

17:20 “THAT GAME WAS SICK HE SAYS” Max’s reaction along with the anime effect, makes it the single funniest response 💀

"Fools! You've stepped into my territory now!" -Matt McMuscles, probably

I used to run a yearly tournament at a comic and game store I worked at. We called it the IronMan of Gaming and it would feature games of a bunch of different genre and generations and have challenges and point awards for winning or beating challenges. At the end of the night we'd take the top 4 and do a mystery final set of challenges with secret games. The final challenge the last time we did it was a 4 man free for all in Onimusha Blade Warriors. Winner got $250 store credit.

I can never see that exact image of Shaq without my brain just blaring the opening track used in Matt’s “Worst fighting game” series

"If you're a Dragon Ball fan, you ride and die with Dragon Ball. So as a Dragon Ball fan, this game is sick." Well said, Justin. Good shit.

Matt has a whole section in his channel dedicated to this!

HE SAID MUGEN! we are getting closer to an episode guys!!!!!

Thank you Justin for actually seeing the good in SVC Chaos. I have a soft spot for that game, the sprites are just soooooo damn good. For a game that was made during SNK going bankrupt, I think it has a lot of charm to it and could have been waaaay worse.

This really was Matt's chance to shine. I never knew SvC Chaos was considered a bad game

I actually looked up some Criticom stuff and was shocked to see that there actually is something in there, you do have special moves, your characters level up, gain new moves and change appearance as they go through the arcade ladder. But that's really all there is, and as the videos from Max and Matt showed getting those special moves to come out is nearly impossible.

I am with Justin on this one. SvC Chaos is a looot more fun than what I remember. I came back to it recently and the core gameplay is so punchy I love it. But yeah SnK dropped the ball for making literally half of the roster hidden characters. Thankfully those "plus" versions exist. I also hope for SNK to authorize Code Mystics to give SvC Chaos some kind of UM treatment

Aww man I actually loved Onimusha Blade Warriors. I played it a ton with my friends back in the day. I remember being hyped to play as Zero and went through the grind to unlock him lol

Props to justin for schooling these two on db lore

Episode dedicated to Matt practically, 1st ones that come to mind is Kasumi Ninja, Shaq-Fu, and Critcom.

One correction: Dead Dance is the japanese version of Tuff E Nuff, not Power Moves. By the way, have you guys covered Tuff E Nuff somewhere? It’s not great but interesting.

If any game programmer is reading this, please make a 2D fighting game and put these 3 gentlemen in it as hidden unlockable characters. Max could be the shoto. Matt could be a grappler. And Justin could be a stance character with a stance in the style of Chun Li

Dead Dance was released in the US as (Hey Punk! Are U ) Tuff E Nuff. What an era.

I personally didn't get into fighting games until Tekken 2 (and Bloody Roar) on the PS1 but one of my least favorite fighting games was X-Men Next Dimension. When I got my PS2 it came with Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance and X-Men Next Dimension. Say what you want about Deadly Alliance but comparing those two... Deadly Alliance was a lot of fun and Next Dimension was slow and clunky.

I used to own Beast Wars: Transmetals on PS1. I was so wrapped up in the FMV's that I didn't even think about the gameplay. And somehow it was better than the first Beast Wars game.😅

Still hoping for a fighting game characters in non fighting games episode! (Like Project X Zone)

Man, I missed the bad character episode. I actually like Xanadu. He is weird, so so weird, and he could get a better redesign. But my dude, I liked him in 14. Way more than Rufus.

Justin explaining the Dragon Ball Gt lore to Max is literally my life

Kakuto Chojin is Tobal 2, minus the grapple system and quest mode. If you take the time to play the Chojin move sets (unlocked after completing the game as a character), there's a lot of fun combos to figure out. My main issue with the game would be the lack of content. I just wish Dream Factory had more time to work on it.

I liked how that end trailer section has Max saying that they're waiting for the Dark Souls of fighting games meanwhile in this episode they directly compared Criticom to Demon Souls. I think you found your game Max.

Mortal Kombat Vs. DC is a an easy one to throw in there. Not even because of the general things people complained about the game like the lack of gore with Mortal Kombat being attached to it but because of how unnecessarily complicated that game’s version of EX’s worked and the Rage mechanic cause since it lets you armor through actually everything no matter what you’re doing, that means a few seconds of a match can be spent by one player popping Rage and the other backing away hoping they can last long enough until the Rage goes away, ya know, provided that person isn’t playing a character with the tools to very easily catch people who do that. Honestly to me that’s the the thing that ruins MK Vs. DC more than anything cause before you play the game long enough to think of the Rage mechanic, it can actually be goofy dumb fun, but it’s very easy for the Rage mechanic to bring the pace of a match to a screeching halt and that’s what kills the gameplay in my opinion.

You guys should definitely go into N64 fighting games. That system has so many hidden gems goof and bad

Rise of the robots is the worst fighting game (that is not an indie, mobile or portable one). You can't even jump over and cross up your opponent, terrible animations, clunky controls, useless normals, even worse and pointless special moves, exploitable AI. And it has no excuse, it came around the same time as "2nd generation" fighting games like Darkstalkers and King of fighters 94. What the hell... You couldn't do a game that bad if you tried.

Power Moves...thanks for bringing that back Matt!! It was budget ass Street Fighter. Played it in 1993.

As Justin correctly said, we, Dragon Ball fans of the '90s, were able to play every shit with DBZ licence on it at the time. I played a lot of Dragon Ball Z Ultimate Battle 22. I didn't like it at all as a fighting game, it was much worse than the DBZ fighters released before on SNES and MD, still... I had it imported from Japan and played a shit ton of it. Same for Dragon Ball Z Legends (this was the one with 3 on 3 fighting, not UB22) and GT. Dark times, for sure 😅

As someone who’s dabbled in bad fighting games, I will always say my top 3 worst fighters are: Battle Master (not the Gundamn games) is a fighting game that you first have to figure out how to do one on one fights, realize your have to earn the fighters and there are only 4 or 5 fighters total. On top of that there’s some weird leveling up system in which you build your mech to get the true end. It’s…. It’s so bad!!! (Fighting eyes and FIST are the other two lol )

seems like we are gonna see more Criticom here

My experience with Onimusha Blade Warriors mirrors Max's. It had a broken counter mechanic where if you hit attack right when someone is open to attack you, you'd preempt it for HUGE damage and it felt so random.

This reminds me of those Sonic rip-offs. When the first game became a sucess, every other company wanted a piece of that. Some were good, others were terrible... the rest were okay. A couple of exemples: Bubsy, Aero the Acro-Bat, Zool, Rocky Rodent, Socket, Rocket Knight Adventures, Plok, Chuck Rock, Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel, Mr. Nutz, etc...

Man when Dragonball FighterZ came out I couldn't go back to playing any of the older games.

1:11:50 there is actually one other official transfomers fighting game and it's actually pretty good! it's another beast wars game, japan exclusive, and for the game boy color. it was made by the same devs that made the gameboy KOFs, and one of the characters even has burning knuckle it's honestly probably one of the best fighters on the game boy

I wasn’t expecting them to bring up the TMNT smash game lmao. I used to play that game constantly on my wii, brawl was also my first smash game so I actually really loved this game at 6-7 years old💀💀classic

Onimusha Blade Warriors is a real sour spot for me because it's the only fighting game that Capcom put my boy MegaMan.exe in...and it's not fun 😞

Another great episode! So many (bad) memories of terrible fgs over time... > < Here's hoping the promised "art of fgs" episode is coming anytime soon, much love!, keep rockin'!! ♥

Lol. Is it crazy that my first experience realizing I was playing a bad fighting game was when I was playing a good fighting game? I was playing DBFZ online and the connections are SO BAD lol. Especially on Xbox. I mean I haven’t played it in a a minute so maybe it’s better but you would wait 30 min for a match, it would be 10+ frames of delay, you would lose the connection on the second fight. Lol. I hope that roll back eventually fixes it.

Kabuki Warriors is not that bad of a game but it is rather basic as there is not much outside of one attack button, a few throws, rolling, and taunting to gain money. It's actually OK but nothing special, I don't get why reviews back then gave it such low scores when there is a lot worse. Kakuto Chojin is definitely a game Matt should cover as I think it's one of the most underrated 3D fighters out there as the mechanics are actually solid since it was made by DreamFactory so most of the mechanics that Tobal, Ehrgeiz, and The Bouncer had was carried over to Kakuto Chojin with a neat movement, and combo system.

42:53 I can't Believe Max predicted fighting fridges in sf6 a year ago lmao

“It plays like a FAT ASS!” I SWEAR I fall in love with Max AT LEAST once a week!

Thank you, Justin, Matt, and Maximillian for this fun episode. I (like Justin) have been a victim of bad anime IP games (especially on Super Famicom) and although I have played all of the Dragon Ball related ones, NONE are as bad as Hokuto No Ken 6 in which all of the characters play the same with 1 unique special move each. The sequel was slightly better with a Vs mechanic and added a different finisher to each character but was still very minimal for a fighting game.

My Street Fighter 1 or Known as Fighting Street on Turbografx 16 🤕

'Dead Dance' was the original name of Tuff-E-Nuff (cringe), a different game. The original name of 'Power Moves' was 'Power Athlete'.

today I learned Matt is not a blue skeleton

Ken's wife cheated with Rufus, just sayin...

1:03:48 Maybe I'm wrong (pretty sure I'm not), but having been around the block on the Unity Asset Store the characters in Fight(!) are from the "PBR Fighters Pack" by artist Maksim Bugrimov. It's like their cheapest character pack. I have little doubt the animations also all come from a single asset pack though I can't be bothered to watch gameplay to see if I know off the top of my head.

SNES - Hey Punk, Are You Tuff E Nuff. Awful.

Not gonna lie, me and my brothers played Fight Club religiously. That game had a lot of cool things like stage transit, bloody screens, breaking bones, character creator and a playable Abraham Lincoln.

Loving this podcast, and the nice reminder at the end of much worse podcasts to let you know how lucky you just had it.

The first bad fighting game I played was Pit Fighter on SNES. It was one of those games I just always had, and even to this day it's still REALLY bad. Bad controls, very tough A.I, health doesn't replenish between fights, game over after losing one round, and no continues. Obviously, I never got far with it.

It might just be nostalgia because they were some of the first fighting games I played but I love the X-Men Mutant Academy/Next Dimension games. I remember the story in Next Dimension actually not being that bad, with some branching paths and full cutscenes and stuff.

For me, it was Tuff E Nuff. That game is TRASH. Power Moves is a masterpiece in comparison.

The three wise men of games graces us with their opinions on the worst fighting games ever made. Let the good times roll and Lets go doods.

Last episode was probably the most genuine point made defending Rufus, that if his personality and design were used seperately, it wouldve been fine. Fat kung fu man with quirks. But the fact he's this loud, obnoxious, try hard fattso who thinks he can even approach Ken at all makes him unbearable as a design for a character. You just want him to lose every second he's on screen

Yo when’s the merch coming??

Ready or not!

48:38 Max literally did a hop kick 🤣 Put this man in Tekken!

Great job

Ultimate Battle 22 was sick, played my friends import copy back in the day

I’m appalled and almost offended that you didn’t mention clay fighter at all, that game series is a very special piece of trash

Cardinal Sin is not a bad game, its a very fun game once you learn the gameplay.

I remember SCRUBLORDS. Never forget.

Shaq fu was good and bad at the same time. Characters were great, moves were wanky but the stages were nice. It had a weird feel to it but I enjoyed it in 1990 something.

Aw yeah new Triple K.O. bawlin!!

For me my top 4 bad game's that I actually like are War God's, Kensei: Sacred Fist, Cardinal Syn and Fighting Bujutsu. 🤓

Svc chaos was a ton of fun. but my copy started crashing when you did, something i forget what.

Dragon Ball GT had an initial release outside of japan. As an anime nerd back then it was kind of a big deal because it was the only dragon ball thing you could get and we'll see how to access the fan subs. Except for maybe those t-shirts that were floating around

The first game I ever played was bloody roar 2 and that was fantastic. What was y’alls first fighter?

Before I watch, hope they talk about Dragon ball GT Final bout or Heavy Nova for the Genesis

Good video, how about a hidden gem or good obscure fighting games?

1. This podcast is excellent! Keep up the great work. 2. Respectfully you guys are wrong about Onimusha Blade Warriors 🤣. It is a pretty good time with friends, has a ton of characters with multiple endings, forms and costumes, there are hidden levels and even some expanded lore sprinkled in. It has problems but me and my friends played it for at least 100+ hours when it released lol. 3. Ironically I also loved X-Men Next dimension amd sunk a hundred hours in with friends as well. 🤣 so maybe I'm wrong

Man, you guys brought up DBZ Taiketsu of all games. That’s the only game in my life that I stole from someone else as a kid and honestly, I probably did them a favor.

I liked shaq fu, it wasn't great but I loved it

@29:30 for Kabuki warriors the best review ever was from egm I believe, "I won a match by literally bashing the controller against my ass."

I've been waiting

What theme would you need to talk about destrega?

SVC Chaos plus had the hidden characters unlocked. Those are available on the normal game via code though.

please play kettou beast wars on the GBC. it's actually pretty good

Please do a video on patch culture and how to handle good and bad updates.

Pit fighter was my first POS

I loved rise of the imperfects and I think it holds up really well the game just wasn’t completely finished it was rushed. I would love to see that game come back some way

Yo!! Onimusha Blade Warriors! Dood! It had MM Zero and MM EXE! That was it for me! Lol

5:37 _I’ve never actually played Shaq Fu_ yeah he did with YoVideoGames back in 2017 even during the time when Scarecrow 2 got revealed at Injustice 2

One fighting game I played that was just weird was Rock'em Sock'em Robots for the Playstation. This game was like some strange 3D Mortal Kombat game where you could literally rip your opponent's limbs by attacking it a bunch. The controls were pretty jank, and you could spam moves a bunch. One of the characters felt really broken.

can you guys do a video on the capcom vs snk games/the future of the franchise

Doomsday Warrior on the SNES. Neat idea you can level up stats after each fight but man unnecessary difficulty hurdle on the bosses

Rise of the Robots was the first game I thought of too. I think after that it would be Black Hole Assault on the Mega CD. Not a great game but the hidden Pong like game called Black Ball Assault is really addictive.

Finally. 26 episodes in, and a Cardinal Syn reference

People were at one point talking about the possibility of a Marvel Nemesis 2. And I’m like, really? Y’all want a sequel to THAT game?

I appreciate you guys acknowledging the legacy component of this conversation. Like Street Fighter 1 is probably the worst fighting game I’ve personally played but like it’s Street Fighter ONE so it makes sense everything else that came afterwards is way better

Matt's reaction at 12:28 is pretty much the same reaction I made just now, Jesus lol. I used to own Shaq Fu on my Genesis and I absolutely despised that game (I got it bundled with Comix Zone at the end of the Genesis's life at retail).

I played Dino Rex at HEY in Akihabara a couple weeks ago. It was a depressing experience.

Death Dance is Tuff E Nuff in North America, by Jaleco so the music is really good, but yeah power moves is something else

Ahhhhhhh rise of the robots. That was a locked memory from childhood 😂 legit thought I imagined that game

My first terrible fighting game was Pitfighter. Probably the worst rental of my life