The worst GUITAR SPEAKER of all times? Kristian Kohle VS the G12T-75! 

What's your G12T-75 experience? Are you cursed too?

"Someone playing guitar in the swamp next door" - So, the G12T-75 being the official SHREK speaker: confirmed

I read the title... I hear you say the damn 75 destroyed your producer childhood... I remember my own beginnings...Tears are in my eyes... I start typing a comment: "I love your videos so much... You are like the anti-Glenn Fricker...", and then he appears in front of me to haunt me again... God must really fucking hate ma and he's laughing his ass off right now. BTW, I love the sounds you got out of the 75.

And in the next episode of "Pointless Sound Engineer Challenges", Kohle will get a usable metal sound from a Mesa Cab Clone.

If I'm not mistaken the g12t-75 was used on some of the early metallica albums. And that's some of the most iconic guitar tones ever.

Great video. I could watch/listen to speaker videos all day!!!

The good tone is because the socks man. Now, seriously this video series is the only way that i have for learning all about the different speaker models. Great video! 🍻

Excellent vid. Have used the famous “75s” in most of my cabs for my 30 years of playing. Sounds great to me. Works best in open back cabs IMO. Depends a lot of what you put in front of it I guess.

I kinda like the original sound myself, to be honest, but I can't express how great these videos are. I've learned so much from watching your speaker videos, so for this I thank you.

I personally like the 75 a lot. You can always turn your mids/treble up on your amp. 75 for practice/pleasure V30 for recording!

I thought my RU-vid subscriptions had melted when my thumbnail preview was showing Glenn instead of Kohle. 😆 Looking forward to your IR pack. You already have my soul. 🔥

Awesome video. This has become my favorite production channel! Prost!

I actually like those speakers more than the V-30. It’s fuller sounding. Just EQ your amp differently. Turn the lows down, etc. I have a very bright Marshall,, and V-30s are harsh sounding.

The irony behind the fact that Kohle used to hate T75s but his tone on them is just about better than every speaker he’s tried on this channel. Listen to how defined and firm the low strings sound-His V30 tones are never that precise and firm on the bottom Anyways, it’s fair that one may not like recording with T75s, but they sure as hell are one of the speakers for live playing. They have a really fun “play” about them because they respond very fast and have a lot of snap. they can open up the top-end on a dark, compressed amp and make sure the low end doesn’t get mushy

You are very creative for improving that speakers tone. Right now I have to deal with using a smashed iphone to record, and I'm slowly learning every tonal flaw that it has. I'll be an amazing engineer by the time I get a mic.

I would die to spend just a day at your studio. Dam, I feel like I would learn so much about getting great tone and good beer XD

*sees title* Flemming Rasmussen would like to know your location.

Always top notch content! Learning so much!

This is crazy that you dropped this video cause I've had this cab setup for years with the 75's in a mesa cab and its my favorite cab.

I don't know, to me the T75 in this instance actually sounds a lot more evil and ominous, like a the undead crawling out of a swamp (like you said) whereas the V30 almost has an upbeat, cheerful character. Like Dimebag is about to jump out playing a bouncy pogo dance rhythm, when the T75 is like a woeful black metal siren call from a distant icy mountain of doom. Don't get me wrong, the T75 sounds bad, but maybe in a good way?

I've got G12T-75's in a Marshall Bi-Chorus 200 combo. I've had that amp for about 17 years. It sounds great on things I use it for and I don't have the problems you describe with low end loading because the Marshall has an open back. Those speakers shine in that amp. Worked for Prong. And Glen's bit was hilarious.

You make 2020 so much cooler. Thank you!

Never found a better speaker for rehearsing in metal band situation. I don't know maybe it's just my ears though!

i mean it definitely isn't the best, but... I feel like you could turn up the treble and mids slightly on the amp, or use a multiband EQ. just to compensate idk.

I like the G12T-75 in a Marshall Cab combined with the Vintage 30. This isn't a bad speaker 😁👍

Very cool video! Awesome tones! Today i have subscrived! Cheers from Portugal 🍺🤘

Stock I find the t75 sounds pretty good blended with something mid forward like a v30, It extends the low and high end and darkens up the sound in a kind of pleasant way

Glenn's appearance on the video made my day!

Actually i really like how a G12-T75 sounds in the room and on many recording but its a pain in the ass to mic speaker. I never managed to mic one to my liking myself :D But when they are well recorded i really like them...i mean come on just think about - Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness for example...or Nevermore - Dead Heart in a Dead World.

another great video! Curious about the Rode TF-5 on cymbals/overheads ☺️

Fantastic. I assume that Andy Sneap did something similar for Nevermore's "Dead Heart in a Dead World". He said that they used a rectified with a Marshall 1960 cab with G12T-75 and two SM57 microphones.

Loves this.. So much work to make a silly speaker work. Hopefully I can sell mine now.

Mega Video! Gute Inspiration kreativer bei der Soundsuche zu werden! . . . Gibt es Tricks gegen geclippte Signale (bspw. Toms, etc?), ohne zu triggern?

As someone that lives in the swamp, all speakers sound like they being played through the swamp next door to my neighbors.

I ADORE G12 T-75s. They sound weird in contrast to other more “conventional” speakers, but I think they really smooth out certain amps, 5150s in particular. The 5150 in combination with the V30 has too much damn midrange and a T75 puts a kind of smiley face eq curve on it which makes it more playable IMO. They sound kind of crappy on their own, but can add a great flavor in a mix. Especially amongst a sea of V30s which fucking everyone uses.

I think the G12T-75 is meant to be a workhorse. Live shows and loudness. But yeah that sticker label is pretty lame

Question? Could you do a pickup comparison? With the new Adam Jones guitar he flipped the neck pickup. What happens when you flip pickups? Are we just stuck in a comfort zone where we have the pickups faced with the screw pieces away? I hope i am making sense

10:05 Holy shit there's a ghost in the back window!

Congrats, you got really great tones in the end. Seems really tough to record well. But I actually like my g12t75 for practicing (in a slightly oversized 1x12 open back) as it gives a bigger sound than other Celestions with more manageable highs at moderate volume. But when I tried to record it, it sounded really bad (probably also due to my lack of skills in recording cabs...). So for me it is a great live speaker but a difficult one to record..

Love your stuff Kohle! Are these IR’s part of one of your IR packs? Or can I get them somewhere as I’m watching this a couple years after it was made. Thank you.

this is funny, this is great, splendid work

Really awesome video! I would be very happy if you checked out the Celestion Neo Creamback in another speaker comparison video! Amazing speaker that´s part of the Creamback family (In theory they are high-powered Greenbacks I believe but I could be wrong :P) and it´s a Neodymium-speaker like the Century Vintage you tried before. I use it in combination with a Vintage 30 in a 2x12 with great results but I´m planning on swapping the V30 for another Neo Creamback just because I love that speaker!

Well, the everlasting reign of terror is finally over, people are opening their minds accepting there are other speakers out there that might even sound better than the V30, or at least sound different, which is something we really need after 30+ years of V30 , let's be creative people! Plus remember cabs/speakers/IRs are 80% of your guitar tones, so let's just try to sound "fresh"! GG Khole!

"Big German Weenie" I fucking lost it XD Gotta love Glenn!

75s are great. classic 80s/90s tones. scooped mid range is awesome . less mids . more gain . Florida Death Metal for ever . getting tired of these impulse response fake amp fake drum nu metal trash . everything sounds exactly the same.

The sentimental piano while he was talking to the gt75 made me laugh out loud

I think the blend of those first two IR versions you made would be great

I like the celestion g12t75's. Just need to right amp with it ect

Dunno why but somehow I feel happy for you man :D even tho g12t75 is one of my favourite speakers (I have one which sounds a lot better than yours, I was actually really surprised how dark sounding the original tone was). And as always, great sound, what you got from that beast ;)

Really like to have these IRs :) cool video

Holy shit. this is so interesting. And i learn so much. Have to watch that again :D

I hate to say this but I prefer the original sound 😅 whatever floats your boat.

Back in the day we had a G12T-75 loaded Marshall 1960A cab in the rehearsal room that I had the bad fortune to use. For years I struggled with a good tone that could also be heard in the full mix. I just didn't understand it. Then one day at a gig, I had the opportunity to use a V30 loaded Orange PPC412 and HOLY SHIT did everything suddenly make sense to me. That was the day I learned cabs matter. I don't think I ever plugged into the Marshall cab again.

The Celestion G12T-75 is actually one of my favorite speakers, along with the Celestion Seventy-80

I’m thinking of combining two of these with V30s in my Marshall MX412AR. What do you think?

I need to know: what does it sound like with a clean tone?

Dude kohle this is the BEST tone I’ve heard you get to be honest..... not trolling I love how full it is

4:05 I think it sounds brilliant though. But your comments are very insightful! Love every video, man!

I haven’t played these speakers in years. And my taste as surely changed since I was in a metal band playing through a Marshall 1960B loaded with g12t-75s. However, I always liked how they sounded. They seemed to remove some mids, so I always had my mids higher than most metal dudes. I also found that pulling my main crunch overdrive to just enough to hit pinch harmonics, and then cranking the volume into the sweet spot where the cab and speakers sounded like they opened up, but not quite loud enough to get muddy-the speakers worked for me. I think. And of course, that was just to my ears and in rehearsal.

You were speaking about phase tuning frequencies.... I’ve done this by placing a sonic maximizer in the FX loop of a thin sounding amp to bring out more chunk. Maybe stupid but it seems to work.

Would love to try this IR. currently im really liking the G12-T65 IR from celestian. Only cab I have at the moment is a frames 2x12 with V30's, and I hate it..

There are many many speakers and cab configurations that I personally would never buy due to lack of cash, but have a great tonal character in their own way IMO.I bought my first set of Celestions 10yrs ago. 4 G12T-75s and rebuilt my year 2000 homemade 4×12 into a hodge podge of solid maple sides and 7ply birch front/back. I've owned probably more than a dozen amps, played maybe a hundred more through it, and I have never not been able to at least dial in a tone I could live with on each and every amplifier that's pushed it's output transformers&valves through. The Lynchback, G12 EVH, and Classic Lead 80 are the only others I can say the same for. If you're after one and only one particular tone in such a focused area of frequencies, along with a similar gain structure throughout, you're always going to think the V-30 is the holy grail of guitar cabs. I'll retain my personal opinion of that speaker to myself, just keep in mind that there's one trick ponies, that (no disrespect) do their tricks about as good as it gets.. and there's guitar drivers capable of covering a broad enough part of the spectrum, they fit just fine the parameters of ever changing and evolving tastes, and tonal prefrences.

What about the g12k100? You like it ? It’s an other g12 75 version with a different flavor

thats some achievement! proud of you sir!

I almost agree with you with the 75 being "weird" for recording. But for live, they're the BEST!!! I love the 1960 Marshall cabs for playing live. I've never heard myself so clearly on stage, until I played through these speakers. I can be pretty quiet, not annoy the soundguy, and yet still hear myself crystal clear. The first time i played through a mesa v30 cab live in a 500 capacity venue, i couldn't hear myself at all. I even got an offer for a cab with the t75s way beyond the real value of the cab in the same venue. I also really like them when i do sound in smaller rooms. Outside, i miss the bite of the brighter speakers, but inside, in a small room, i can perfectly control the amount of high end, so that the vocals stay bright, and crystal clear above the mix. The t75 is the best rehearsal room/live speaker period. Else they wouldnt've made so many of them.

All the love, buddy! Hahaha! I’ll just keep playing with my hm2 sounds and Jens Bogren IRs ... And nice Glenn Fricker clip! Haha he’s awesome

I think the v30 would pair well with the T75.

The first thing i thought when i heard the first part was that does not sound like a g12t-75 it does not have that upper mid character especially recorded, the phase thing made it make alot of sense .

Dude you are a really nutty perfectionist, I think adventures in tuned cabinets and an EQ in the front would be a an easier solve?

Nice cameo appearance by Fricker..He likes it when you tell him to go eff himself 😂 Still not convinced of the G12 T75. Always fun and informative to see the comparison + the process. Is the pencil condenser padded? I wanted to try a KM but didn’t want to take a chance damaging a rented mic with high SPLs.

What pickups are you using?

I had 2 of those in an 80's Marshall cab. Whenever I tried to record it I had problems getting a good tone. I recently put a V30 and a Creamback in there. That's night and day. Although, I'm also going to try the V30 and a G12t. I've heard it makes a nice blend.

Hey Kristian, I love your channel and have learned a ton from you. I did have an observation on this video in particular though. I noticed when you're adjusting phase on your microphones you're basically just using a line delay? I thought that phase is a combination of frequency and time; the frequencies you pickup change based on where the microphone is placed because different wavelengths travel at different speeds, so that has to be accounted for. If you delay a signal so that some peaks are matching, other frequencies will be out of phase. As the microphone moves around the vibrations hit it at very slightly different times, and that's why half an inch can be a huge difference in tone. It's the phase relationship between the different frequencies all competing as they come out of the speaker. If you just delay the track you're not able to manipulate that. Like matching two tracks up by moving one will only make it so that the peak that you matched with the other track is perfectly in phase, everything else is still off by some margin. Now everything will always be a little off, you can't get two totally different mics completely in phase, you can't even get two of the same mic perfectly in phase, but you can get closer using your ears and actually manipulating the microphones. One of my favorite things to do here is try to target high frequencies that I find undesirable and get it to phase out just using the mic placement. Unless you're already extremely close to being where you want, I find that actually moving the mic around while listening produces far superior result to delaying a track until they line up.

I have been using 1960A and 1960B all my life, yes they fuzzy sound and very glassy but I love it .

I always figured this speaker would sound best using an MD-409. Maybe the e906 would sound cool?

Very nice crossover between Kristian and Glenn

I can’t really speak to micing these, I’ve only done a very minimal amount with an archon 25 which is open back with that speaker. But using an e609 and sm57 blend it sounded pretty good with minimal BS involved. Distorted or clean. For live/room sounds I was finding my 5150iii cab with the g12evh was way too dark and I was having to crank the presence on any amp to get some high end. So I took two speakers from both my 5150iii cab and 1960a cab and now both have a mix of two 75s and two EVHs each and they sound awesome. Each speaker kind of fills in the weak points of the other one, I dig it. Finding my amp controls are a lot more usable and effective now too. However overall I think the 75s take a lot better to el34 amps in general versus 6l6 amps. Using my 50w 5150iii el34 or my TSL with the 75s sounds awesome. My 6l6 amps still sound really good with the 75s but not as good as the el34 amps.

For me, one of the best speaker from Celestion ever made!🎸😎

Sorry Kristian, you got it wrong. The worst celestion is the 70/80 sounds like a can full of bees

I wonder what kind of 75s the jcm900 cab I have has, but it never sound like that. Although the amps I played through never sounded like buzzsaw either, perhaps it's the wrong application. I found it was really easy to record with just slapping sm57 at the edge of the cone and it was a good starting point. I considered getting v30s many times because it's an industry standard since forever, but when I listened to comparisons, I always found the top end was uncomfortably bright, and the midrange of the 75 better. Perhaps v30 sits in the mix better, I'm rather amateur anyway, perhaps my gear was just a weird combination. One noticeable thing I tend to do though, with the Laney I always turn the bass almost off, so might be related to the excess bass response you mentioned. But it packs a good punch with bass rolled off, nice chuggy kick to it. My rack on the other hand might be lacking a bit in bass so the cab compensates. But when I bumped into recording and amp channels on youtube lately, I was shocked to find that it seems like everybody hates 75 and it worked for me so well that I didn't consider getting rid of it. It worked pretty well in the mix when the other guitar was through rectifier stack, and the 75s were at the end of laney vh100r. In the end, all I can say is "if it was good enough for Eddie Van Halen, it's good enough for me". For your use I absolutely agree that it's not the speaker of choice.

I can tell other differences as well, but did you account for sensitivity differences between the 75 and the V30. Seems like a louder speaker will also sound better.

HAHAHAHA I CAN'T BELIVE HE ACTUALLY DID IT

did you at least equalize? because that was the only video I saw these speakers sounding bad

I always loved the old G12T-75s for 80's style thrash rhythm tones, especially with a Marshall amp. But I honestly could never find a use for them when I switched back to a more bluesy rock style, and so I moved onto Vintage 30's first, before finally finding my favourite place with 70's Greenback and Blackback tones.

Love it or hate it this is a solid tutorial on how to get great tones!

Great video! Yeah, the 75 is more dark and less clear compared to the V30. Maybe a treble/mid boost on the amp would be more fair for direct comparison, but there's no doubt that the V30 is just such a great speaker for recording! So much agree with you, but my two cents defending the 75'er is in live situations where many amps with V30's or other aggresive speakers can be too ear piercing. As a live sound engineer in small venues, the best way to achieve good guitar tone is to become friends with the guitarists, so you can turn down the treble/presence knobs on their amps. Many PA speakers are also very sensitive in the 2k-4k range with their horn tweeters, where the mic'd up 75'er will sound better than a more aggresive speaker. I personly like the Eminence V12, which is balanced, more mellow than the V30, but still alot clearer than the 75 for recording :)

Doesn’t the Bogner Ubercab have two of these and two v30s in an x pattern? I’ve heard some good stuff about that cab.

I also hated that speaker for most of my guitar life (16 years) but now I like it! I use it in a Marshall 4x12 1960B cab: 2 V30 speakers + 2 G12T-75 speakers in X-pattern. That combination is so great!

My dear God, the 75 ruined my life! I had these speakers in my 1960A for more than 10 years. until I got my other two cabs with Greenbacks and V30’s and heard the bells finally coming. I never wanna play 75’s again in my life.

nice! one for the algorithm! see u down there!

The original vented white label 75s from the mid 80s ( if you can find them) are excellent. They sounded nothing like the ones from the 90s!

I mix 2 v30’s and 2 t75’s in a Marshall cab and dig the sound :)

Finally you and Glenn!!! Nice hahahhaa!

I have a prs archon 25 which came stock with a g12t75 so upgraded to an old 90’s v30 from a mesa cab and paired with the g12t75 its absolutely killer! I really dig the pair. Also, my 10 band eq in the loop helps tremendously.

Used to use V30s and 75s in an X configuration and I always loved it

I ended up putting two G12T-75 speakers I got for $50 in this Sound City Concord combo I have. It's an open back amp. It sounds really nice for clean tones. At least better than the stock speakers that were in it. But it tends to get lost in the mix when I play live. I wish that amp had a Mid adjustment.

I like how different people like different speakers, and I never take offense if someone has a different opinion on sound preferences. I have G12-T75's in a Marshall 19060A 4x12, a custom made 2x12, and a custom made open back 1x12, and a spare speaker in a box! These are my favorite speakers for playing live with my main Marshall JMP1 preamp/TC G Major 2 and Peavey Classic 50/50. I tried a Marshall 19060 with V30's in it one night (venue supplied backline cab) and didn't like it at all, didn't seem to punch like my G12-T75's. (I don't do any recording so can't and won't comment there). I put a G12-T75 in my Peavey Bandit 65, and hated it! Tried a V30 in it, and it was great. It currently has a Peavey Sheffield 1230 in it (which I love), which I believe is close to a V30, but I could be wrong. It pays to keep experimenting. What works with one amp may not work with another.

Thanks again, man - I really love these kinds of vids here on your channel. By any means: is there a chance you will go into phasing issues ESPECIALLY with guitars a bit more in depth? I got one guitar L, one on the R - two different Ampsims, and the balance meter goes ape shit! Is this supposed to happen? Having the exact same Ampsim (and preset) L and R results in a complete mono signal if I just copy tracks; playing each track at a time sounds stereo (with the phase wiggling somewhat, but not as extreme). More impressive are two different Ampsims L/R - but then the goniometer is all over the place! Is this supposed to be that way?

I can't wait for this IR pack now!

For the G12-T75s they aren't like a Vintage vs Greenback which is mostly down to personal taste, G12s are a different beast and you have to tweak the amp to accommodate for it and they can sound very good when done right.