The Worst King in English History? 

Ulysses S Grant or Andrew Jackson for America and yes please Julius Caesar part 2

The entire John Wilkes booth kidnapping/assassination conspiracy

I would say anything with a good story. It doesn’t have to have a great impact on world history, maybe just “local” history. Amazing job with this one. I used to think King John was such a great and forward-thinking king for drafting the Magna Carta… hahaha…

Welcome back to youtube it's been awhile

I would do something out of the box. How about the Mughals or do how Rome conquered Britain. The conquest involves the death of an emperor and a new emperor has to save face by conquering the Britain.

#JusticeForJohn

Yes but he bullied the fox and the bear in sherwood forest and brainwashed richard with a hypnotist snake....

@@herrikudo Fair point. But John did sound like Peter Ustinov, CHECKMATE.

@@DougGlendower damn and curses... foiled again

He aliso became Evil incarnate , along with the Sheriff of Nottingham in the Robin Hood legend .

Par for the course when it comes to those psychotic mongrels. Reality puts even the sickest Crusader Kings players to shame.

I mean, he wouldn't have had any shortage of people willing to kill his brother too. William II was an absolute lunatic. He took a prominent role in the Harrying Of The North, a borderline genocide, and more or less acted as his father's enforcer. So when he took the crown his immediate solution was murder.

😮...I need to plan a hunting trip 🚶🏿‍♂️🚶🏿‍♂️

They weren't alone on the hunting trip. There was no such thing as "alone" in the middle ages. There were dozens of men present for that hunt, and I'm pretty sure we have name of the man who actually loosed the arrow: Walter Tyrell. Hunting accidents were pretty common for the time, and most historians reject the claim that Henry I somehow engineered his brother's death. However it is beyond dispute that, literally the instant William II died, Henry I rode to Winchester and took control of the Royal Treasury, so that he could take the throne from his other brother, Robert Shortpants.

@@SRosenberg203 Yeah. They were pretty common but it was all pretty odd. William II was a brute, and Henry I was a very cunning individual. And I'm not sure if this speaks of the chaos or the Norman mindset or the suspicious nature of the whole thing but they all rushed back to their fiefs instead of trying to bring Rufus' body to even a small chapel. They left his corpse in the woods. Were it not for a peasant couple walking by he'd not even had received a proper burial

Not to mention he wasn't exactly given the tools necessary to do the job. He had the skills to be a superb statesman and he was great at taking opportunities, but he wasn't great at long-term planning and some of his decisions seem like poor impulse control. Not the best combo in this sort of situation.

@@howardlanus8467 I remember a little story about him. During his reign a child had accidentally killed another while they were playing catch with a rock. John found it extremely interesting and involved himself heavily in the court proceedings. This is what I love about the angevin kinga from now on. You get such a great read on their personality from stories and anecdotes it's great. Like Henry 2nd getting so angry he'd roll around on the floor, ripping the straw from his sheets and chewing it. Or Richard on 3rd crusade going out of his way to out do phillip. Phillip "you will bring me a rock for my trebuchet, and I will give you one gold coin." Richard "two gold coins 🗿" Or when they both came down with the same disease Phillip was bedridden, while Richard was out on the front lines in a stretcher. Richard was a fuckin mad lad I can't deny, absolute legend.

​@@ammunity6890great comment lol

John was an awful king, duplicitous and stupid. Easily the worst king in English history

Kinda like James Buchanan. Leaders that were very much not up to the situation they found themselves in.

Me too buddy. Thanks again for lending your voice. I owe you one.

Magna Carta scene. I put down my drink. I know that voice.

@@DrawnofHistoryCan you please do a video of Johns grandson Edward The 1st of England. After all in your video on the Black Death you mentioned how Jewish people were often persecuted throughout history including in the Middle Ages and you also mentioned how they were wrongly blamed for causing the plague even though they had nothing to do with it and you also mentioned how in many countries in Europe such as Germany, Switzerland, France, Spain, and The county of Flanders the Jewish people were persecuted and attacked and killed during the Black Death and Edward The 1st is often notorious for persecuting Englands Jewish population and ordering their expulsion from England which expelled all Jewish people from England where they were forbidden from returning to until it was repealed in the 1650s and because of that Edward is rightfully hated for what he did to Jewish people so you could also talk about the persecution and expulsion of Jewish people from England.

I Knew That Was Your Voice!!! So glad this came up after your video!

We need a reaction video please

Emotional pain activates the same nerves, as physical injury and mauled limbs.

That's what killed my grandfather. He made it about 6 months after his wife passed.

The pain can be so much your heart can't bear the weight

I highly agree with you. I think that's what happened to Katherine of Aragon in 1536.

@@Wumbo_the_Mumbo I'm not a big sports fan so I can't remember the name but I remember hearing the story of a baseball player's parents where the father died and the mom kissed him on the cheek goodbye and literally died immediately after. Can you imagine? They'd been married for a long long time and literally died within 5 minutes of each other.

History RU-vidrs know how to party.

@@DrawnofHistory you guys sure do! Can't wait for more videos from this channel I've been a fan since the Leif Erikson video dropped

@@DrawnofHistory how about more monarchs of england?

​@@DrawnofHistoryking Edward i of England?

Because you wrote this comment this video was recommended to me Today I’ve had 4 DiCaprio finger pointing memes sent to me I was kinda annoyed at first but this is a cool channel so thanks

He's got my vote. 👍

See I've never understood. People WANT it so why not give it to them? I miss the McRib still. Last time I had it was over 10 years ago where I wandered into a McDonalds in the Bronx by sheer luck and they had it. I went back for a week until they ran out.

@jacquelinecallejas1390 From what I've heard, it seems the Mcrib isn't popular enough to make it a permanent menu item. It's easily my favorite McDonald's item.

@@joshuasepeda3289but it’s a permanent menu item in Germany and Luxembourg!

That's precisely WHY he's considered a better King. An absent King is often looked on much more favorably than one who was there all the time. The Norman Kings of England up until John all spent a fair amount of time outside of England, overseeing their continental domains, Henry II and Richard especially. After John lost Normandy in 1204, he spent virtually all of his time in England. It's way easier to like a King when he's off somewhere else doing heroic shit or burning down French towns, than it is to like him if he's just *HERE*, ALL THE TIME. Both Henry II and Richard were more heavy-handed with their rule over baronial prerogatives and rights than John was, but his proximity was what made the barons feel like he was pressuring them so much more than they had been pressured by previous Kings, so Henry and Richard are both seen more favorably.

@@SRosenberg203 from what I learned in the video, John didn‘t seem as bad as he is often portrayed to be. Just very, very unlucky.

@@Swissswoosher Yep. In an era where Kings were also expected to be warriors, John was just spectacularly unlucky on the battlefield, which made him seem both less Kingly and less manly to his contemporaries, which contributed to a lot of his problems. He also got into several BIG conflicts with the Church, as the video says, and since Monks were doing most of the recording of history at that time, they didn't have too many nice things to say about him.

Its because the nobility prefered a king that is far away from home so that they can do whatever they want. Like when during the summer brake mom went to work and you could eat cerial and sweets all day.

@@anuszbizsergetokommentek2171 Exactly

That's why they call it the dark ages.

On the good note it was an era where the US didn't exist yet Jk Partially...

I think the people of the future South America would’ve been happily chomping on spuds at the time

I fr think about this occasionally lol other foods too though

@@MissCellanious1yes, there was no chocolate either, not in the way we know it anyway. 🍫

King Richard bans all bigots

See also Richard II, locked up in a basement and tortured to death by his own mother

I know this is the exact opposite, but it reminds me of one of my favorite ice breaker stories, about how Dick Cheney shot Attorney Harry Whittington in the head on a quail hunt while sitting down, facing the opposite way of the quail, called it an accident and made Whittington apologize to HIM on live tv.

@@lewisirwin5363 Richard II's mom died 15 years before he did, i don't know where you got this from.

sure. Whatever increases the immersion.

That reply read so judgemental 😭

🎵A pox on the phoney King of England🎵

Hahahahahaha!

The Breezy And Uneasy, Snivellin' Grovellin', Measly Weasly, Blabberin' Jabberin', Gibberin' Jabberin', Blunderin' Pluderin', Wheelin' Dealin' Phony King Of England

"A half hour before he knows he's there, old Rob will steal his underwear."

We've been talking about doing something for over a year and I got to hang out with him back in November. Great guy so getting him in this was a no brainer.

@@DrawnofHistory It was my pleasure to do it. Thanks for asking! Enjoyed hanging out with you too.

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THANK YOU! Not a nitpick, accuracy is rather important.

True, though Richard benefited most from it since he became sole heir to Warwick (the Kingmaker) when George died.

Facts matter. Plus there is no concrete proof he murdered his nephews. Or that they even died in the tower.

Or that it was more likely that Henry VII killed the princes rather than Richard as he had significantly more to gain from it

@@tobymills7110 I think I read they finally found the bodies of the 2 princes a few years ago. Unlikely they would have been killed and entombed in the tower of london without the King's express commands.

He was the best king anyone like John could've been.

That's an Irishman delivering the line as well

He can't be irish. He sounds too sober.😂😂😂

I sometimes forget all of them are related and can claim each other's throne at any time

Do you think this is why they had so many wars for centuries? 🤣🤣🤣🤣

After seeing the Broadway play SIX I read a little to supplement the info I got and many of Henry's wives, mistresses and would be wives were related. And his first wife was married to his older brother before he died although she said it was never consumated because they both fell ill right after the wedding but she survived.

More like a family stick.

I hope so too!

Not quite. Normandy was given to Robert Curthose, and England was given to William Rufus, but that was William the Conqueror's intention with regard to inheritance before he died. After his death, they fought a war in 1088 which made Normandy a subject to the English Crown, and Curthose was allowed to keep possession of the Dutchy but required to relinquish his claim to the throne. When William II died, Henry I usurped the throne from Curthose because he was away on Crusade, and then when Curthose got back and led a rebellion to try and retake it, Henry I won and took Normandy from him too. And the second son, Richard, died before William the Conqueror so he didn't really matter lol

@@SRosenberg203 Nothing of what you said refuted what I said. And the war didn't rejoin Normandy to England. William Rufus was stalemated there, he only became its regent because Robert pawned it to him to fund his campaign on the First Crusade.

Correction. William Rufus was left England by his father. Robert got Normandy.

@@mangot589 No he wasn't. He hadn't officially been left anything by the time his father died, and the entirety of England was way too important to bequeath to a third son. He only got it because he was in the country at the time.

@@mattandrews2594 yes he was, on his deathbed William I gave Robert Normandy, William Rufus England, and Henry I money. England's population was comparable to Normandy and it was Norman custom to give your eldest what you were given as inheritance and things you added were given to other sons.

I'll have to check it out now that I'm finally done with this.

I avoided English history outside RU-vid mostly, but I do vaguely remember watching something that said the next guy/ dynasty wrote the history and really stitched him up…Probably should go watch the other reaction vids before I comment…

Grabthar's hammer, by the Sons of Warvan, you shall be avenged!

​@@DrawnofHistory we gotta get outta here before those things come back and kill Guy!

Exactly, I expected it to be him but I guess most people don't know about him

John came to the crown as an adult, Henry was a little boy. Also, he suffered from extreme mental instability (inherited from his maternal grandfather, who famously thought he was made of glass) and seemed to be more interested in education than actual ruling.

That would be cool. I'm not sure if VTH has reacted to a Drawn of History video yet.

@@DrawnofHistory oh it's coming soon :)

If that means what I think it means, awesome. You'll get no CGPing from me.

I’m honored that this conversation would happen under my comment! I’m a big fan of you both!

The method probably sounded more fun in his head

Yep, also Richard III didn't lock the prince's in the tower either, that was a rumour started by William Shakespeare's play

@@googlesucks1039 actually that one was started by someone else, I think it was Thomas Moore but don’t quote me on that, Shakespeare just went with it and popularised it. I hate to say it as well but the princes were last seen in the tower, Richard the III wasn’t the monster Shakespeare made him out to be, however it’s hard to deny that he didn’t help his case and that part is true. Who killed the princess on the other hand is beyond me….I wouldn’t want to say, there’s some evidence that the elder boy was already dying likely from a disease which for the time wouldn’t have been uncommon. The younger boy though….it maybe he was murdered because if the elder one died of the disease whoever was watching him would likely get the blame, so Richard, much easier to have both boys “disappear” than to admit that either died on his watch. Richard by that time had pretty much lost it, I mean he’d broken English law so badly that if he’d admitted that the Princes even had bruised knees, he’d have been in for the high jump, disappearing them was probable deniability. I mean by this point he’d executed Lord Hastings without a trial(lord Hastings was also not no one, he was Edward the IV’s most loyal advisor and everyone knew it, to cut his head off without a trial was a big NO NO and Richard wasn’t done). In the end I think Richard has been done dirty by history but he was no saint

@@andrewobrien8325 Half of Richard's problem was the same as John's: He made good laws for the common people and tried to rein in aristocratic excess. Unfortunately, the commons were NOT the powerbase for the realm at that time, leading to Henry VII's eventual comeback.

@@lewisirwin5363 Huh? I didn’t know that about him…but it does make sense. I still think olde Richard made other decisions that probably weren’t well thought out but I think the we can both agree it was the perfect storm of trouble(and even though he lost, if it had been a footie match that morning of the battle, you’d have put your money on Richard but that’s just on paper….and paper can be torn up and discarded).

I mean, he was literally forced into signing Magna Carta at swordpoint, and the instant he was out of danger, he requested that the Pope invalidate the document (which he did). Let's give credit where it's due; to the Barons who came up with the damn thing, not the King who was coerced into signing it and whose son ignored it for the next 50 years.

@@SRosenberg203 it went over your head. Nevermind.

Hmm. Sort of his loss was our gain. I mean if George the III had been a better king maybe we'd (the USA) would still be part of the UK.

Occam's razor.

They are all great to work with.

See you again soon (hopefully not in another 6 months)

me too

He's got good taste.

I'd be happy right now with a 1/10th of as many subs. If you know a way how to tell his audience to check out me stuff between his videos, be my guest.

I love how it came out... and that it's done. On to the next one.

Thanks. I'll try to rate higher :P

Ah, the Caesar sequel. One day.

Next one will be short. I swear. (it might be long)

Glad you enjoyed it.

Thanks for appreciating it all