The Worst Legendary in Hearthstone 

The Hir'eek vs. Aviana discussion is essentially "What is worse: An empty gun or one that shoots you in your knee?"

"There is never a use-case for fucking the Boogeymonster" -Rarran, 2023 16:13

About the Aviana Duskfallen vs Temporus debate, keep in mind that Temporus gets HARD countered by Aviana, as you can Aviana the first turn given by Temporus and then use the effect the 2nd turn. I'm surprised noone considered the famous Aviana Duskfallen Druid vs TTK (Two Turn Kill) Temporus Priest matchup.

I think one important point missed with Hir'eek is the set of was printed in. It had overkill as a keyword, meaning that if you cast it you not only spent 8 mana to fill your bourd with worthless imps but you also just gave your opponent 7 chances to trigger overkill.

Chat: "This card is awful. You need a very specific circumstance for this to do something" Also chat: "this card is fine, as long as you get a specific circumstance, this card can actually do something"

Real talk- Gruul was in classic for the ENTIRETY of The Boogeymonster's existence, and the ONLY WAY Boogey beat Gruul was if you gave it Windfury, and cleared minions, and honestly, if you're giving your 8 mana minion windfury and it can attack, you've kinda already won. So.... boogeyman was dogshit

Getting people to comment on discord really makes the video more interactive and adds different perspectives. Nice one Rarran!

I remember when Aviana came on the screen, the absolute SPAM of “IT’S OVER” and “THIS IS IT”. It was glorious to watch. Great stream, Rarran, thank you for all the laughs.

I opened a Golden Temporus and I honestly played it back when it was in standard as a 2 turn kill play alongside Dragon Soul It was not a good deck but against a slower deck it honestly pulled out a fair number of wins Temporus may go down in history as one of the worst legendaries ever but I will always keep it in my heart

I think this is so much better than the previous king of the hill video since there's more discussion on why a card is bad than why a card is good

I think another thing that theoretically makes Millhouse less garbage than Aviana is the fact he can come down so much earlier, when decks playing a lot of big cards should theoretically have a smaller hand(and thus be less likely to demolish you.) The fact it makes ALL spells cost 0 is garbage, but as we saw during your video of trying to play him a lot, sometimes people just don't have spells worth using on turn 2. They'll ALWAYS have something to use Aviana on, even if it's just killing her for a tempo boost.

You can make a solid argument that if your opponent fails to kill you through temporus you can almost assuredly kill them so it’s at least coinflipping the game to win rather than coinflipping the game to potentially get a 0 mana big guy that does nothing.

I remember the Boogeymonster being the very first legendary I opened when I started playing the game. It was like the week Whisper of the Old God was out, I was free to play, and that was the first legendary I got. I was so excited, I put him on every deck I owned, then I discovered the truth and it sucked. A lot. I don't know why I kept playing to this day.

"There is never a use case for fucking the Boogeymonster" Rarran stop kinkshaming me

I remember someone defending Temporus against Aviana in live 👀

"If you put him [sic] in your deck that's one less spot for Guff" sent me 😂

Just wanna mention that millhouse did see a decent amount of play, but not from hand, the paladin deck that was all about recruiting cheap minions from the deck ran millhouse cause of the fact he was tiny, but huge.

No one respects Malorne for his place in Mill Druid back in the day. The disrespect! He was there when the mill-archetype was created!

If I remember correctly Hemet was added to counter a beast deck that blizz thought would be meta, making it the original "unicorn" deck.

I missed Marjordomo Executus, that card made you lose on the next turn around 60% of the time

Eydis Darkbane was a semi competent inclusion in wild when librams where at their peak there. They where never really meta in wild but she is by no means a bad card anymore since librams got released.

Can’t believe my favorite Hearthstone RU-vidr is finally doing a video on me! I’m so flattered

I got legend with Temporus in priest. I played a deck called Wall priest that was about cheating out big minions. It struggled with some tempo decks, but it would often be at 30 health since you played like tar creeper and similar taunts early on. So I'd play this guy, or even cheat him out, and give the opponent two turns with an empty board and no threats. He does like 15 damage, but i can always clear the board as priest at this point and Priest had a 4 mana heal 12 card. Basically this was an anti tempo tech in a tier 2 deck.

I appreciate this new method of polling chat on these ranking streams. There is a lot more accountability when someone has to talk to you, one on one, and your charisma really shines through when you are the interviewer.

Wow. I hope you do more King of the Hill style videos. This was funny, had good discussion, and was a genuinely good time. Great video dude.

Acidmaw actually did see play, but only very early in the Grand Tournament. I saw them mainly on some aggro hunters as a good way to clear any big taunts you're desperately throwing on the board to stay alive. They usually had their board full with small minions, threw down Acidmaw, killed your 2-3 taunt minions and have the rest continue to go face. After that you couldn't throw down any taunt minions again because the hunter would just keep clearing with his small minions, and with every minion being so small the hunter had nothing to lose on their side. You had to answer it and yet stay alive. Along the way we got plenty of cards that are simply way better than Acidmaw, that's why it never seen any play again.

I really liked my Val’anyr deck back in the day. It was a lot of fun.

The Aviana incident 💀

boogeymonster will forever be the worst in my heart, i've had to quadraple check, that it's a real legendary, and not just some bad packfiller uncommon

This was really funny, I’d love to see more of these. Maybe do like debating which is the most fun legendary between the two, would lead to some interesting and funny takes

Poor Prince Valanar. Honestly, if he was a 4/4 Taunt Lifesteal WITH NO CONDITION whatsoever, he would've struggled to be anything more than a good Arena pick even when he was new. It's like sure, that's not bad, but it's not bad in the way a lot of fringe playable pack filler is not bad.

22:48 The original recruit card was Y’Shaarj from WotOG

Hmm makes me question whos a better bait card? Aviana(1st enemy card cost 0) millhouse(all enemies spells zero for a turn) or ulthok (all enemy cards cost health)

I used to play Val'anyr in my handbuff pally when i had no cards at all lmao, was really good when it hit dopplegangster or pre nerf saronite chain gang

anomalus was so bad for random minions being created, it definitely wrecked yourself way more often than the opponent.

Just for posterity sake, I'm gonna repeat here what I said in chat: Temporus, as much as it would lose you the game now, it ACTUALL saw play! Not competitive, but there was a strong deck ot Miracle Dragon Priest that ran it. You gotta remember that Temporus was in standard at the same time as Awaken the Makers, Raza, Lyra, Radiant Elemental, Shadow Reaper Anduin, the dragon synergies from Priests and most importantly Divine Spirit and Inner Fire. Back then you would play this card in the late game, when you already used your Mara to heal up to 40 health, and you already transformed into Shadow Reaper Anduin. You play Temporus while ahead, the opponent responds to it and another threat you might have on the board, but unless they are Quest Mage or Bloodreaver Gul'Dan, no deck could stop what came next. No deck could muster 30+ damage to kill you in two turns, specially if you played Temporus when you had a board, they would take their two turns, damage you a bit. Then on your turn, you play Lyra, then Radiant Elemental, then another Radiant Elemental you would copy or discover, then the miracle happens. On your full extra turn you have 10 mana, spells discounted by 2, Lyra generating you extra free spells, among them Inner Fire and Divine Spirit, plus the Anduin hero power dealing 2 damage for free and reseting with every card played, and you finish them off going face with a 48/48 Radiant Elemental. The only reason why Quest Mage would stop it is that they want an extra turn to kill you with Antonidas, that was the entire point of the quest, and Bloodreaver Gul'Dan could be slapped with no drawbacks and put a couple Voidlords between him and your buffed minion. But guess what? Against those decks you just don't play Temporus. For a small frame of time, Temporus allowed a combo Priest deck to be consistent and be meta, and the only reason it didn't see play in competitive was because two of the most popular tournament decks were exactly Quest Mage and Cubelock.

Such memories my first golden legendary being The boogeymonster 😂 definitely dusted after a few failed played attempts and now I've got the base one just so it doest show up in a pack again

in defence of hogger (however late it is) it was released alongside C'thun as a hard counter in case C'thun gets too powerful

Deck of Chaos into Hir'eek makes it a one mana card that fills your board with 9/1s. It'll probably get cleared, but it's still pretty threatening.

Something i wanted to say in defense of anomalous vs Malorne, is that Anomalous can actually lose you a game, via being randomly generated/ evolved into, not as much as an octosari can though.

If Hir’eek was a Paladin card it’d be very playable. Duskfallen Aviana, in almost all situations it loses the game no matter what class it’s in.

Aviana has to be the worse because no other legendary makes you lose the game whenever you play or get it randomly. There are a bunch of useless legendaries, there are legendaries that waste your mana, there are a bunch that could backfire and sometimes make you lose. But Aviana is the only one that's an instant concede button, so she is our one and only queen of the hill 👑

It was really fun to participate in this video (i was the dude who sounded baked as hell)

Tbf Malorne was used in the old druid undertaker deck which I think everyone forgets about

The only defence I have for Malorne is that it’s useful as a random hit or a discover if nothing else is appealing

I think you passed over Prince Valanar too quickly without really discussing the fact that he never ever saw a lick of play, not even an attempt, because 4 mana was the most powerful mana cost at the time (fireball, conc, eternal servitude). You were never going to run an understatted minion with a terrible effect for that payoff.

is there a chance other rarity cards would have a king of the hill vid? (all doe common looks really tedious)

Malorne was played in hadronox decks

Although i'm not the biggest hearthstone fan i really liked the in-call argument gimmick, really fun video!

I am absolutely loving the way these random people shit talk different cards

With Milhouse, your opponent might not be playing spells or have few or no spells in hand. It may also be that it doesn’t make sense for them to play the card at the time. You can also evolve into Milhouse, recruit or cheat him out in other ways. Aviana’s main disadvantage is that she’s mid game and gives a huge advantage to your opponent as long as they have a minion. Aviana also has to survive this next turn. You don’t want someone to evolve or recruit Aviana because you already had to use a card to do this, so you don’t get the benefit. One of the only exceptions would be Y’sharj pulling her from your deck at start of turn and allowing you to cheat out something big. It’s very hard to get it to feel good to cheat her out, so I would call her worse.

I'm surprised nobody defended Malorne initially. It definitely saw play when it was released because mill druid was a deck that also played the 1 mana spell that gave a minion +1/+1 gain armor equal to its attack. That combo is a 8 mana 10/8 gain 10, don't lose to fatigue and that's a strong combo against control

cant believe the temoporus interview got cut

Just wanted to say the clash Royale content on the second channel has been absolutely amazing! Lol

I really liked that you brought the viewers in for this type of video, super fun!

Back in the days of Kobolds and Catacombs, I actually got close to legend playing a Call to Arms paladin deck with Dirty Rat and Millhouse. Turn 4 Call was so insane when you got those two because you get a big taunt to shut down aggro, and a beefy 4/4 to contend with other midrange threats. I even played Millhouse on turn 2 if I had it in hand, which admittedly lost me some games, but a surprising amount of the time, his battlecry actually didn't end up backfiring too horribly, so it was just a solid card.

Boogeymonster's value = 2 mana. It forces the opponent to react and spend 7 damage. Doomsayer essentially.

If I remember right, malorne was in the classic set, right? (It has been quite a while) I remember it popping as just a reoccurring resource. Just a threat that you’d always (eventually) get back And Boogeymonster saw play it battlegrounds, specifically, in battlegrounds where you are losing terribly and convince yourself that maybe it will pop off THIS time (it wouldn’t.)

16:30 hir’eek is definitely the better card, niether of them have seen play in any competent wild or standard deck but you can actually create a semi decent meme deck around hand buffing in wild and have hir’eek be somewhat good. Sure it’s not a good deck but the boogeyman is a useless card that doesn’t fit into any deck, hir’eek actually has a semi reasonable deck.

Now you need to build a deck with the both Kings of the Hill and play a 100 matches with it.

I watched the live stream it was wild. If Rarran had included the man defending Temporus, well, let's just say that it would be a dark day for him.

After seeing Hemit, a card I forgot about. I think you should do a challenge of trying to win with a deck using ONLY Tech cards, if thats possible

no one ever mentioned how boogie monster was tier 6 in battlegorunds season 1 '

Temporus is worse because you have to play priest in order to use it

There was a cooperative Tavern Brawl where Aviana was broken. By the end of the week everyone was playing this druid deck with her. I've never seen a first where Hireek was ever remotely good.

I once played Milhouse as a meme and coined it out, never have I ever lost a game as fast.

18:38 When I discuss hearthstone with people, *A LOT OF TIMES,* people will come up with situations like this one, and say that I'm wrong, because I'm not counting with that... like WHEN DOES THAT EVER GOING TO HAPPEN?

no way that you say at 5:30 that anomalus is better,I always remember evolving into anomalus as shaman and instantly losing my game

That "human greed" guy had me going like WTF are you talking about

Temporus beats Aviana because you'd never play either, but Temporus triggers your "if you're holding a dragon" cards from hand

Aviana has combo potential with Maiev or maybe some other activator in the future. I cannot imagine any world in which Temporus is playable.

Malorne was my first legendary and I desperately tried to make it work. No one wanted it to work more than me, and it didn't.

Aviana is 5 mana so you got 5 more mana to try to force your enemy to response. removing 7hp minion is not always easy. especialy in druid hoden behind taunt.

Duskfallen aviana was actually Playable in wild before guff was printed for malygos combos you'd play maeve on it to make it dormant then go maly faceless, faceless, moon fire moon fire for 32 damage otk

Madame Lazul is used in every Standard Priest deck ever right now as a tech to counter Handbuff Paladin.

Milhouse tended to make people panic back in the day - they'd use spells they shouldn't be using on a 4/4 just to not lose momentum. But it all depends on playing him on curve. It was actually pretty rare that you'd lose the game outright on turn four as they wouldn't have the capability to do it. Playing Milhouse any time after turning four was suicidal though against most classes.

Honestly, I think Temporus was much worse. Giving your opponent a free minion is not even remotely as bad as giving them an entire extra turn.

I thought I'd found the video kinda mid but it was pretty good. Having short interactions/arguments from viewers and with montage making it a bit dynamic was nice.

The best argument for hir’eek vs aviana. Hir’eek might lose you the game, but aviana will make your opponent win the game.

10:26 Acidmaw, could be used to Trigger Deathrattle? 11:52 Antonidas I've seen played. Successfully. Sometimes upside at least. Edit: Now Build a deck around Duskfallen Aviana as a Win Condition. _(Basically a Finisher)_ Might I suggest something that attempts to make sure that the Opponent has no cards in hand? And possibly, No Cards in their own Deck? 23:45

Along time ago malorne was played , cuz the dominant deck was warrior fatigue and malorne kinda play around the fatigue

You know, I thought Aviana had this in the bag but uh...that comparison at 22:57. Aviana PROBABLY loses you the game. Temporus DEFINITELY loses you the game. At 7 mana, there is 0 chance you ever get the upside from Temporus. Rarran I have a challenge for you. Since you genuinely seem to think that Temporus has an upside, I challenge you to make it work in one single game. Play games with Temporus in your deck until you can play it and benefit from the "upside". It's a priest legendary. A class that famously sacrifices tempo for answers. @Rarran

The beauty, nay, serendipity, of don IMMEDIATELY proving that hirrek is better than boogey, was a thing of beauty.

"Duskfallen ANIVIA is the worst card because if you put HIM in your deck that's one less spot for Guff" broke my fucking brain.

Anomalus should have been carried until Aviana, completely unplayable in mage because mage has pretty much no way to activate it as a board wipe and every RNG way to summon it meant you were pretty much guaranteed to nuke your own board.

Great video! The best you've done in a minute :))

Also, ffs, Hir'eek at LEAST has the possibility of getting future support in Wild. The effect is goofy enough to MAYBE have a tier 4 come around and use it as a "hehe" Win Condition. Boogeymonster? Never in a million years.

what is the name of the site where he played king of the hill?

I used malorne in a mill deck, as a way to have a threat the opponent had to deal with and thickening my deck. It was fun.

Boogiemonster actually did see some play and it was a good addition to your Tirion warband on BGs...

Was handlock a thing when Hir eek was in standard?

can you do the best card from each ekspansion?(love this series keep it going)

is weird looking at this video after the update where some of these "trash" legendries got changed and buffed to ungodly extremes

I played krul with guldan hero from litchking exp - you could've summoned a lot of nice demons in handlock, very gut

the fact that krul didn't even see play when renolock was meta is very telling

Hir'eek works with hand buffs

19:18 percentage for Aviana. Nice.

It's so crazy to me that melorne beat krul... At least when you rng a melorne it's a 7m 9/7 with upside vs krul which is a 9m conditional summon 2 or 3 minions

i dont even remember when i have last seen the boogeymonster but i got hit by antonidas in wild just last week and let me tell you when your opponent clears your board and plays that its devastating.... on a side note to the aviana vs temporus... only counters i have about temporus being worse is its got a higher mana cost to use it so the opponent can potentially have more mana to deal with you in the 2 turns they will have... and you can fuck up the aviana effect by mistakenly playing wrong card first...

Close call with Val'anyr and Valanar, when all that separates the two is an apostrophe and a vowel ;p