I worked for Apple during the time the Butterfly keyboard and the Macbook 12" launched. We had SO MANY PEOPLE coming in with keyboard issues. Troubleshooting the keyboard issues meant we first had to remove the keycap and clean the mechanism underneath to see if it resolved the issue (Which worked about 1 in 50 times). Removing the keycaps was a terrible experience, as we had to take this weird, angled plastic stick, and put a sticky pad on it. Then we had to stick it to the keycap, and lift at an angle to remove the key. Then we had to do the reverse to install a new key. We broke so many keycaps and key mechanisms that we usually had to replace the whole keyboard. And the problem was, keyboard replacements necessitated a new topcase, which was what everything mounted to. Which means if we had to do a repair, we had to take EVERYTHING (motherboard, display, speakers, etc.) out of the old topcase and transplant it into the new topcase. And these things were so small, and so fiddly, they were terrible to work on. The bottom panel was so delicate to remove, and the retaining clips were very easy to break. What's worse, it had a freaking cable connected that only offered about 1.5" worth of travel before it broke, so you had to be veeeeeeeeery careful removing it, or risk breaking the cable! In short, these 12" Macbooks were some of the worst laptops Apple ever made, and we literally cheered in the service department when we heard they were discontinuing them.
Nobody liked the butterfly keyboards. So you can imagine the euphoria when they announced that they were replacing them with a more conventional design.
its insane how the butterfly keyboard was so prone to failure but apple so stubborn to change that they had to do free keyboard assembly replacements after being hit with a class action lawsuit. they took a massive lost on each repair it wasn't just the keys that got replaced the assembly included the trackpad, top frame and battery that's hundreds of dollars of just parts per repair
They were a victim of their own greed, that's what happens when they tried to make something so unrepairable that they were forced to repair it and basically ended up having to give everyone new bottom cases that included a majority new hardware, if they were done right they could have easily killed the air line up, the pricing should have also been budget friendly based on how low it's processor is, i think $500-600 would be been enough for one of these
It was probably just cheaper to swallow the cost of repairs than commit to a new keyboard design after they spent so much time and money developing the butterfly keyboards. Not to mention the MacBooks would need to be reengineered, the factories would need to be retooled, etc. Greed is probably somewhere in that too lmfao
I'm using one right now and it's not a big deal anymore. My current dongle is a far cry better and far more versatile than what Apple introduced it with.
I'm just glad that my laptop has every port I'd ever need on it (except, annoyingly, and SD card slot). It's got a barrel charging port, 3 USB-As, 1 USB-C (which is Thunderbolt 4 and can charge the computer), gigabit Ethernet, full-size HDMI, and a headphone jack.
@@ej_techLegitimately impressed you can use that in 2024 with that anemic CPU in there. More power to you I guess but goddamn I couldn't see myself doing that
@@charlix3Oh yea it chuggs along and chokes when multitasking but macOS is surprisingly usable on the underpowered Core m3. Considering that I bought it for $225 used it still beats brand new Celeron craptops of the same size and weight.
@@KamenRiderGumohonestly old Macs are a very good deal, you can get them dirt cheap and with them you get top of the line build quality. macOS is actually better than Windows in that the bloatware and what not can be disabled without having to hack the OS. I'm not the biggest fan of either, but I also respect the fact that macOS is built for today, unlike Windows which is a huge mess of backwards compatibility and inconsistencies that come with that.
@@masterkamen371 my girlfriend recently bought a 2019 16" mackbook pro with an i9 and 6gb of video ram and since she uses editing software alot it's perfect for her. It just needed a cleaning from all the dust and some new thermal paste wich i took care of that.
My biggest issue was that they were USBc, not Thunderbolt 3. The number of adaptors and docks that people expect to work with them, and you just get a pop up saying ‘this accessory is not compatible with this device’
To be fair, they launched the 2015 macbook 12" before support for Thunderbolt 3 was even added into Intel processors. And I don't think that Intel supported Thunderbolt in their M-series processors. They totally should've figured out how to add in later generations of the 12" though.
Thunderbolt using the same port as basically non-compatible tech over numerous generations has been probably the biggest fail in the last 20 years, mainly because unless you paid attention, whatever you plug in may or may not work with no real reason. A real case where the techies had a bigger voice than the users in the design process!
As bad as it was, I wish Apple revived the 12 inch with an M series chip and updated keyboard. The portability of this form factor is amazing for working on the go.
@@clebbingtonAt the time the passive cooling running into the bottom of the MacBook, keyboards, and Intel mobile is what held these back. I'm happy AMD has stepped up and brought some competition in recently. I feel like that as well as some other things is what pushed Apple to have their own chips made. I don't like apple much but they have done some good here and there.
with a 4.5w CPU. your phone is completely fanless with more power and far less thermal mass, the part where apple fucked up is the design of the passive cooling system
If it wasn't for that blasted keyboard I'd love one of those just as a portable typing device. It's HARD to find a small laptop that isn't plastic-y chrome powered e-waste anymore.
You could use a wireless keyboard with phone or, if you really want a laptop, maybe a 12" Lenovo X series, Dell Latitude, or Fujitsu Lifebook (U728, 729 etc.) could work. A Surface Laptop Go is also suitable if you want something newer.
@@mrcaboosevg6089 on paper nothing, and in fact I do have a little Lenovo Chromebook for doing just that but it's not ideal unless you only ever wanna use Google docs. And besides, the real problem with the little cheap chrome devices isn't the OS, but the build quality. Not gonna get much typing done if the deck flex ends up giving me a repeated stress injury.
I would buy an Apple Silicon version of this. Great for trips and hotels. I usually bring a small guitar. With this I can take my Logic setup with me. I'm not buying an iPad because tablet OS is just plain stupid and redundant.
On a side note, I also wanna mention how macOS does some things amazingly well but also unnecessarily limits its own features: You all know this thing where you press and hold a letter key on your phone and a bar with different accented letters pops up. This is also a feature in macOS, enabled by default. You can also disable it. You *used to* be able to even edit the plist files and customize the letters you can select. I had it customized to support accented characters for most European languages and the IPA, as I conversed a lot in English, German, Dutch, Polish and Latvian and now didn't need to change keyboard settings ever. And then they inadvertently made all this customization step by step frustrating to impossibly difficult by putting those plists in the System files: - Starting with OS X 10.11 or so, System Integrity Protection would make all System files read-only to limit access for all programs including potential malware. You could disable it in Recovery mode, edit your plist, and re-enable it. - Then with macOS 10.15 Catalina they made it so that you cannot change the System folder from read-only to anything else. You could still circumvent this with some terminal commands. - With macOS Big Sur, the System folder is now its own, read-only volume, *and it cannot be anything but read-only* without some advanced terminal shenanigans that, if executed wrongly, may screw up your entire system and/or leave you vulnerable to malware. - Some time later in Big Sur, every single System file gets its own SHA256 hash for a signature check. So, while insanely secure, even if you passed all the shit in place to prevent you from customizing your PressAndHold layout, *if you edit anything, the signature check will fail and your macOS volume will not boot up unless re-installed.* Your data won't be deleted as it's on a separate volume. There are still workarounds but the effort needed is IMO simply not worth it anymore. And, to add insult to injury, *any* system update installed will reset the modified plist. This is very likely unintentional, and not with the goal of preventing customization in mind. There simply are very few people who are even aware that you could edit the plist files in order to customize the press and hold layout, and the settings files have been in System for over a decade, so nobody at Apple checked for this or judged it not worth it to change PressAndHold code. Hopefully they change that in the future.
This sounds like they made macOS pretty similar to immutable/atomic Linux distros. With that said, can't you have an overlay filesystem over the System volume, something like what a user of those Linux distros would use?
hell even single-core Atoms chug along if you don't ask it to play any video over 480p, I have a Digiland tablet with a 2013 Intel Atom it was a struggle to use with Windows but with Ubuntu touch but it is useable for kitchen recipes once you get past the ads that block the page for 2 min.
@@David_Quinn_Photography agreed, im using a 2011 intel atom netbook with a single gig of ram or two, and it holds up fine for web with a liiight linux distro and a cheapo cheap ssd
@@wyattroncin941 You said it, not me 🙃 But even further than that, they could have increased the area which was used to cool the machine, in order to dissipate more heat and increase the maximum TDP of the chip
1) MacBook 12 is 13,1 mm at its thickest point, 3,5mm at thinnest. U360 is 13,9mm 2) MacBook 12 is first ever device to have USB-C 3) First ever notebook to have Force Touch trackpad 4) Apple were showing the direction of notebooks - how thin and fanless they can be. And now world has thin yet powerful MacBook Air -- 5) more importantly it was the year when apple started to realise that most of their customers don’t know shit about tech and don’t care about innovations/or simply can’t treat devices with care I’m speaking about butterfly keyboard - as for me it is the marvel of engineering. I have never had any problems with it expect only joy for my 7 years of using MBP2017. Yet apple reversed to scissors keyboard because customers were eating greasy crunchy food above the keyboard or using it on a beach with sand and dust…Apple stopped experimenting soon (like 3D Touch removal) U360 introduced nothing but beautiful design.
@@Mike-zx1yeI agree with everything you said except for your last point, the butterfly keyboard was a real problem, not only was it so prompt to fail but it was also very uncomfortable compared to the scissors keyboard and you can’t blame costumers for not being too careful. Also, 3D touch was removed because it took too much space on the device, just see how much the battery increased after it was removed on the iPhone 11, if I have to choose between a gimmick and a real useful feature like extended battery life, the second wins.
@@fix0the0spade There is a lot wrong with that design. Literally everybody I know who had a MacBook from the butterfly era had problems with sticking keys. It's truly a horrible design.
This MacBook introduced me to Louis Rossman. 5 years ago mine suffered the Question Mark of Death after overheating caused the SSD to not be read, found a RU-vid repair guy talking about how it’s a common fate for this MacBook and how difficult it is to repair, that he had to create bespoke equipment to facilitate those repairs, and gave a shoutout to Rossman who had some experience with repairing these macs. Discovering his channel was a real drive into the rabbit hole of the right-to-repair world. I’ve never bought another Mac since.
They really need to reintroduce a 13" MacBook in this 12" form factor (by reducing the bezel size, like how the 14" macbook is the same frame size as the old 13") and using M series chips without butterfly keys. I always wanted one of these 12" models, I would happily buy a new one.
Than buy an ipad since they do the same thing. Better hardware for sophisticated software would suit the macbook pros better but for people that don’t do computer science or any tech job for a living just get an ipad
@@staringcorgi6475counterpoint, built in keyboard means nice tough shell for the screen. Also the IPad system is a royal pain in the ass if you’re used to a regular laptop running a keyboard-only system.
@@Foxfloop ipad has pretty durable cases and 12 inch laptops wouldn’t be much durable since they break easily due to their size, a macbook pro from right now is durable since it’s thicker but a thin macbook isn’t durable no matter if it has the keyboard since the keyboard is thicker, plus ipad has a better keyboard as it won’t break like the butterfly
I frikin loved mine, and I would buy another one today if it came with a modern processor. I had zero issues with it or the keyboard. Typing wasn't great but also not terrible and it never failed. Replaced it with a M1 MBA and JFC it weighs like 3x as much. That thing was sooooo light, and the battery lasted 8-10 hours easily.
@@elcocineroamericano If they announced a new version with an M1/2/3, I would buy one instantly. I'd even be fine with the same screen, single port, etc. Stick an M1/2/3 in there and update the keyboard and I'd buy one today.
I had one of these from 2016 until it got stolen last December, got me through university, and used it for basic word and excel at my job, ran stardew valley without a problem and for media consumption it was great. The look and feel was incredible and the track pad is the best I ever used, force touch is great and I actually really liked the keyboard, despite the under powered hardware, the build quality and portability and my low power use case made it worth it. I miss it.
It was my favourite Macbook ever (top spec). I had the 11” Air previously and it had a terrible aspect ratio. I was so happy with this one. I treated it well and it lasted until 2020 when the butterfly kb eventually showed the fault. Too late for free kb replacement though. Now got a 2020 M1 Air and happy with that.
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Still have my 2015 one, replaced the battery last summer. Runs slow and steady, mostly as backup/travel laptop as it fits in the large side pocket of my jacket. I'm thinking of putting linux mint to make it more usuable. But Apple, please revive this with the M series processor. 🙏
watching this on an m3 macbook pro, I ALWAYS wanted a 12" macbook growing up. I thought it was the lightest, smallest PC that you can literally throw into your bag and leave for work/school/travel at an airport.
I think ipads are more suited since the keyboard is better and touch is more generally suited than a device that sacrifices the user expierence (typing) for size, you could also use a keyboard on ipad like macs but the usefullness of this only extends to office like applications and it’s pricey so i’d stick to the air
I got one for school in mid-2016, it was the base model with the M3 and 256GB of storage. It completely shat itself during the pandemic because it could barely handle google meets and the camera died which would have required a full monitor replacement which was going to cost more than the used value of the laptop itself. I replaced it with an ROG Zephyrus...
My 2015 MacBook Pro has a broken keyboard. I took it to a repair shop and they wanted $300 for the repair because they would have to replace the whole topcase. I didn't buy another MacBook after that.
I've had my MBP M1 since 2020 and I still daily drive it. It is honestly such a fantastic device! I have had macs (imac, macbook air) before but none were performant enough coming from a full-time custom-built desktop guy. When the M1 came out, it was the first device that allowed me to take the work I would normally do on a desktop with me wherever I went - I could now work and do my hobby stuff (photography/videos) on a battery for the first time with good performance. As long as I don't break it, I see myself using it for a few more years.
I picked up a used M1 MacBook Air for cheap thanks to your recommendation back when you made that original video and it's been an absolutely amazing little machine. Perfect for work and it even can do light gaming. I haven't touched MacBooks in nearly 10 years mostly because of how bad the previous nuggetbooks were. Cheers Wadeo
When I was doing my graduate degree, these things were the loaner laptops for the media department at my college. I was in engineering, so didn't have to deal with these things, but my friends in video production had to battle Final Cut and other mac software on these things if they didn't have their own.
When i worked for an Apple Service Provider, these were by far the absolute worst Apple computers to work on. They had a special tool that made sure you didnt pull the enclosure and display clamshell too far apart or else the ribbon cables would rip.
this is the apple answer to chromebooks taking market share and showing that a shittily made, $100 barebones laptop is a viable product despite it having the computational power of a duel core from 2006 but it's apple so it cost $1300 in it's base config and is a hell of alot harder to warranty anyway...
I still use my 2017 12 inch for web browsing, RU-vid videos, etc. The portability is unrivaled, and I don't mind the keyboard as much as you might think. Its only real issue is getting keys stuck ~4x a year. An air compressor fixes that.
I had one of these, 4 keyboard replacements, an entire new bottom half and a weird logic board issue where apple fixed it then kept it for a few weeks to investigate why it was throwing them fan errors while NOT HAVING A FAN later... I traded it to cashies and got an ipad.
Maybe a controversial opinion, but I really wish they brought back this computer with a revised keyboard and Apple Silicon and maybe an extra USB-C port
I LOVE pausing to read the first screen cap and seeing the 2012 MBP mentioned. I own TWO OF THEM. The earlier ones from that year. The ones with ports and upgradability. Was a long slide after that. These machines are still great!!
I still have and use a 2018 MBP 15" with the last generation Butterfly keyboard. I loved the feel of the Butterfly keyboard. Kept it clean, and it's (almost) perfect after 6 years; only issue is that the space bar is starting to double-space every now and then... Oh, and it's been kept clean, but it has also survived getting absolutely thrown around, going swimming in a non-waterproof backpack on a motorbike on a rainy day, and a low-speed motorbike crash. Still haven't upgraded to an M-series yet.
LOL never noticed how bad that thing really was until 2:39 I saw my garage computer, a late 2012 mac mini (which is a decent garage computer when maxed out to 16 gigs and a SSD is installed)
I bought a 2012 MacBook pro second hand to use in film school. That was around 2017, and it's still kicking today. Possably kicking and screaming, but against all odds she still runs
As a drone enthusiast I needed a thin-and-light laptop to do setup and analysis in the field, and I'd really love to get one of those macbooks except that all of the maths blackbox analysis stuff is windows-only, so I ended up grabbing a Surface Pro 8 and then just never looked back. Such a neat and versatile machine, does everything I ask of it and more.
That's one of the best Macs Apple made during the butterfly keyboard era. It actually knows what it is. It doesn't have the Pro moniker but can't do pro tasks because of overheating issues. It didn't cost an arm and a leg. It's a small, thin and incredibly light computer made for web based tasks. And that's it. That's what it is and it doesn't claim to be able to to do much more. As a piece of engineering it is very impressive and still thinner and lighter than most computers made today. I use my 2017 model daily.
using one of these basically as an ssh machine, an emacs machine, and a web browser/PDF reader was pretty nice... if I was using it for *anything* sturdier, though, I would have been miserable. butterfly switches were nice to type on as long as they worked though imo
I will say I owned the 2015 fully specked MacBook and it was amazing and it was able to handle whatever I through at it without any hiccups. I recently gave it away to my brother 2 years ago and it's still going strong! Arguably one of my favorite laptops of all time!!
I actually loved this, it was so small and thin and battery lasted all day. I could take it everywhere in any bag really. Probably helped I bought it cheap second hand and had no issues with keyboard. I used it up to last year where I broke the screen.
They also stopped making things as thin as possible to the point they bend in your pocket. I've gone fully back to apple now they have chonky rectangle designs on everything.
I got the pro model in 2017, mostly cause I got free beats, for uni. Two days later my G key gave up and had to take it to Apple for repair. Two days later my E key died. They just gave me a new one after that. Thankfully I got a proper ROG zephyrus 14 a year later. I wanted to like it but too many issues.
Reminder that ppl (including children) in the Democratic Republic of Congo are enslaved and forced to work the dangerous cobalt mines to make these tech products. Buy secondhand if possible and use your device for as long as you can before throwing it out (responsibly), refurbing or retiring it.
An iPhone 15 has around 8.55 grams of cobalt (iPhones roughly contain about 5% of their mass in cobalt). Many electric cars have around an 80kwh battery pack, this contains around 16kg of cobalt. In 2022, there were 25.9 million electric cars on the road, that’s 414,400,000kg of cobalt. Over 10 years, 2012-2022, 2.17 billion iPhones have been sold, let’s say each one has 8.55g of cobalt. That equates to 18,553,500kg of cobalt. So in the last 5 years that electric cars have really taken off, we’ve needed to mine 22 times more cobalt for EVs than we have for iPhones over 10 years… Whilst I agree with your statement, I’d direct it more towards electric vehicles and their massive use of cobalt
I still have this one and use it frequently. Only issue that it doesn't "snap" in like it used to but mercifully decides that it will grant me power to charge the battery.
I have and regularly use it. Its perfect for traveling. As long as all you're using it for light work, personally I just watch my ripped blu-rays off it. Its bigger than an iPad screen, has adjustable tilt and really good resolution
While the issues mentioned do annoy me, the biggest thing which has me using this laptop to this day is the size factor. I use this laptop for travel, and a Mac Mini for more serious computing
Back in late 2015, I bought this, and I got an XPS 13 (the 3200/1800 touch one, duh). I couldn't decide which to keep, so my mom got the Mac and I kept the Dell. The Dell was just so much faster and easier to get work done with. The laptop was only a little larger but had way more screen, and the screen was SO MUCH BETTER from the higher pixel density (which matters when it's itty bitty, you end up using it closer). I miss both these machines. The Mac felt like it was from the future. It still feels that way when you use one now, until you try to type and it starts spamming keypresses or none at all.
I worked on MBP mid 2015. It's only problem were that it was overheating, most likely from dust inside. I worked from home with it but had no stupid screwdriver to open and clean it. It worked with Samsung display perfectly, it always remembers when windows were when i plug in display (Looking at you you, Windows 10, who shuffle them all over when i connect). And magsafe 1 were funny thing to fidget. My friends who have M1 MacBook doesn't want to upgrade, because honestly it's still great, and battery life is awesome and frankly i would recommend it over new Windows laptops for most people.
I had one of these for the exact same reasons that you did. It wasn’t the actual mechanics and the hardware, it was the motherboard, and the particular year of 2016 and the 500 gig hard drives that were the problems.
These still work great as terminal computers if you have one with a functioning keyboard. Remote Desktop (RDP) is super lightweight and responsive. I do all my computing on a virtual machine and it’s fantastic. I get the performance of a desktop on an ultra portable laptop that squeezes the most out of an abused battery. Hard to recommend these in any other context.
I LOVED my 12inch macbook for the on the go stuff, light photo editing, photoshop, some javascript. I eventually traded it for the first iPad pro that came out, which I think is good option with the apple keyboard. I would love an M model 12macbook. It would have no shortage of power
Great little machine, I used to work for a web hosting company and sometimes had to be on call over evenings and weekends, so this used to go everywhere with me, to parties, out on bike rides, you name it. Still use it as a second machine even nowadays.
I had one of these back in 19' absolutely loved the thin form factor but boy was it hard living with a single USB c port. One big thing with these machines are the SSDs die so much quicker due to the poor thermal management which is what killed mine after 2 hard years of use.
I'm so glad I went with the older 2015 pro model in 2016. It was the last upgradeable/self serviceable model and believe it or not I still use it along side a 2020 model. So glad I skipped the butterfly keyboard phase.
Still using my old Macbook Pro 2012 model to this very day. Updated with OCLP running Somona. Still a good bit of kid. Did have to change the battery on though. But, it's still works like new.
On my 2018 MacBook Pro I personally loved the butterfly keyboard. I honestly liked the feeling of it, and I didn't run into any issues except towards the end of me using it I started to notice the space bar would double press some.
I used a Mid 2012 MBP until I got my 2023 because everything in between (with the exception of early retinas if they had upgraded ram or storage) SUCKED.
Currently watching this on my 2015 MacBook which I still use as my daily driver, it survived my entire undergrad and now most of grad school and I still do reasonably intense work on it. Genuinely will be devastated when/if it ever dies on me. It’s the perfect coding/youtube/netflix machine.
I picked up a dell latitude 7370 not long ago which is the equivalent to this macbook except with a lot more ports, removable storage, and a somewhat decent heatsink. Funny enough it also has a touchscreen with a higher resolution than the macbook. I've been having fun messing with the power limits to see how much I can boost the performance, it has a decent amount of headroom.
Man I remember working with the 2016 models when I worked as IT for a school. And the keyboard experience on the 2016 Macbook was just awful when it doesn't work right (which usually happened most of the time). It felt like the buttons were stuck even when they were not.
I bought a cheap one as a transition laptop for excel and word. I chose it for the portability, usb c charging and the lightness in the backpack. 6 months after sold it for more than I paid for. Had a good experience but I was slow
I have the second generation model since the launch, no problems so far, no repairs, even the battery (still original) holds about 4 hours of use, for portability without giving up keyboard and trackpad this masbook was spectacular.
I use this to this day, and it's alright. Battery life is really good for its age, i installed Sonoma on it, and it runs.. hot and not really fast, but it's usable. The screen is amazing tbh. Even tho it's 60hz, 1440p panel just looks so crisp on a small display.
bought it for studies, was perfect - light and compact. it was 8 years ago, still goes well today. I''m selling it tomorrow because i bought a 2024 M3 Mac book air but i'll be missing
I really loved my 12inch MacBook for the time I had it. It was really portable for one the go minor photo editing, yeah the M3 chip wasn’t that amazingly fast, but I really enjoyed it
Still use my early 2012 MBP with an elgato to record HDMI sources... Granted, I had to install Windows 10 because OBS no longer supports whatever OS X Apple stopped supporting my laptop with, Boot Camp has my back... Eventually it'll become a linux machine, I'm sure, but Win 10 runs great on my decade+ old MBP!
I got one of these cheap off my work and basically crashed and burned in an interview because the damn thing was so underpowered. It was ridiculously light though - for light tasks on the move I loved it.
This is still my favorite Mac of all time. It was slow, but it was still powerful enough to run FCP and edit my vlogs on back in the day. I actually really liked the keyboard, but not the reliability issues. If they brought this back with the M chip tomorrow I'd be preordering it as soon as it was available. Felt ridiculous to carry a full computer in my iPad bag. But it was awesome. Sure it could have used a second USB-C port, but I hate that Apple took away a Thunderbolt port on the new MBPs to put HDMI and an SD slot in, two things I never use. Cfast cards and HDMI over Thunderbolt is the way to go.
Man I had a rose gold 2017 m3 version and I loved it, it was around the time I got my first iPhone which was an SE of the same color. The performance of both devices were shit, but the laptop got me out of windows and was honestly great for school and my first software dev job (still surprised it ran xCode decently). Unfortunately it got water damage and although still technically works is effectively a paperweight I stuff in a drawer, now I just use ThinkPads.