The Worst Moves in Fighting Games: Dio’s “Die!” 

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“Dio didn’t die because he was a cocky idiot it’s because he had bad frame data” that says a lot about a guy who can stop time

I mean, its literally on the name of the move. "Die." Dio dies by just using this move

Who looked at this move and said "It's too good---we gotta give double damage to balance it out"?

"There's only one reason you lost, Dio. Just one simple answer. You used that shitty ass move."

If you want an even worse move; Leona’s I Slasher in 97/og98 it’s a single hit projectile with about 40 frames of start up that Leona can’t recover from until the shot boomerangs back to you and she adjusts her hair. So it’s effective *-216* on block. It’s so bad Ralf can on reaction EX galactica phantom to instant kill you if you do this move.

I have barely any understanding on fighting game terminology, but playing the game on a shady online emulator, accidentally using this move, and getting punished for it every time was enough for me to understand how bad it is.

You hit every point spot on, good video my man

“Minus on hit and block, rip bozo” has to be one of the funniest sentences I have ever read

I’ve seen someone lose a game for landing a throw as Dio and he hadn’t taken a hit before then 💀

Other things about DIO: -His regular throw is negative on hit. You can tech early and punish him for doing it, often with a full combo. It's legit better to go for a tech throw, or even just eating the throw at times. -Stand-Off 623X is actually a great move that teleports across the screen. The difference in quality between these two moves is staggering.

“DIO did not die becomes he was a cocky idiot, he died because he miss clicked.”-HFTF Champion

your tone in the beginning of this fucking got me for some reason. you sound like you're telling me a scary folktale about 5 kids being murdered in the very building that we're in RIGHT NOW. great video and great series

Well, this is a very fresh look at fighting games. I really want to see this channel grow since classic games alone are FULL of awful moves. Hell, Tekken alone could make a huge series.

I'm so glad somebody made a video about this... I love Jojo HFTF for all it's dumb mechanics, but let alone those, this move is just TERRIBLE. Literally 0 application ever.

It's not called "Die!" because it makes opponents die, it's called that because it gets the player themself killed.

If Dio was allowed to move at least he could use it as a shitty approach tool and maybe shitty tool, it still wouldn't be good but it would be a neat gimmick also great video

lmfao, the double damage is really the icing on the cake

Now this makes sense. Jotaro suddenly one shot him cuz he parried his hyper-punishable that he tried to land, after the blood-eye stun ability (but the stun also sucked and didn't stunned Jotaro for enough time).

this was the singular move that made me move from dio to jotaro back then when i was picking my main I thought "oh cool a mixup option" more like a suicide option because my gosh is it so punishable dio at least had good normals and such but honestly jotaro or even shadow dio just felt more fun to play

thank you. this is great

Speaking of DIO and terrible moves, BlazBlue's Izanami has Shadow DIO's time stop (complete with a lack of super flash and greyscale background) except 1. It always costs full meter (which, fortunately, is consumed only if you succeed). 2. It has two seconds of startup with no invincibility in a game where one is enough to reach you and she doesn't have reliable means of immobilizing you beforehand like Shadow DIO. 3. She's in a counter hit state on startup, which means she's eating big damage if she fails. 4. You get only 6 seconds of stopped time, but all attacks in time stop count as one combo, which makes them scale horribly, and she can't gain meter. You can deal similar damage with a regular meterless combo IIRC. 5. Some moves can **dodge it** anyway (like the resident JoJo HftF character's invul dodge special). Her half meter command grab super is way better even with half the time stop.

Best way to improve it in my opinion: Option 1: It's Unblockable, It comes out faster, and DIO can move/block freely without needing to wait for an extended period of time, but it still doesn't track. Option 2: It's blockable, DIO can move freely, and it tracks players Horizontally and Vertically.

I like the idea that Dio didn't die because of his weak leg or a power difference but because he was vulnerable to counter damage 😂

I like that these videos are comprehensible even to people who aren't balls-deep into fighting game culture

This move should be categorized as a "taunt" because you only use it to troll.

If i may make some suggestions: P4AU: C Tetrakarn (Rise) Ok so this move is weird. By setting it up, if Rise blocks an oncoming attack that isnt a projectile, the enemy gets pushed back. Not countered Pushed back Now considering this stays until you get hit or block an attack, this seems like it would be fine, right? It isnt Because sometimes it legit just... Doesnt work Sometimes it'll activate but just... Wont work. The ONLY upside is that you dont get chip damage from the attack, and setting it up is invincible until the setup is over Unless you're fighting akihiko or maybe chie just... Use Makarakarn or EX Tetrakarn... Blazblue: Venomous Bite (Terumi) So here's the thing about this move. When it works? You can probably do 6-7k if you know terumi combos well *_Emphasis on "if it works"_* This move only works on highs and mids from the front, NOTHING ELSE. No lows, no throws, no projectiles. Heck, even THEN it never works on jump-ins and moves that make you go up. The overdrive version only has a SLIGHT advantage because of the damage increase and the fact that it works on lows now. This move is a meme among terumi mains for a reason.

I'd love to see more move analysies like this, keep up the work man

this is the funniest thing. thank you for making this.

I used to fear that move when playing Challenge mode, but then I realize I can move!

It’s a good thing dios and immortal vampire otherwise he wouldn’t love long enough to see himself get destroyed by kakyoin

I hope you keep making these, i smell a successful series

Vine boom really enchance the quality of the video, looking forward to this series!

this is quite possibly the best thing I've seen so far this year

Great vid! Please make more of these on other hftf or asb moves!

love accidentally throwing this move out during a negative edge combo i practiced for four weeks and eating a round. thanks bad muscle memory!

New to the channel but I enjoy this format a lot. The energy, informal yet informative nature, & it being an easily digestible 1 minute video or so is pretty nice Another move I heard about that could fit this sorta format is Vega's EX Remove Mask from the SF4 series Bafael mentioned it during his Bad Balance Vanilla Vega (i don't remember all the details but the video's a good source), but he automatically loses his mask and his claw for getting hit/blocking too much, super quick in vanilla (Akuma Focus Ultra instantly does it, or Gen 2 EX Stabs does) and he takes a lot more damage with the mask off so the only point to removing the mask (which is 2 bars iirc) is to pick it up again to refresh the durability

You forgot to mention that it's blockable too, so even an unskilled opponent can just hold back and avoid damage/ only take chip

I've seen enough. I'm subbing.

More of this please

I can’t tell you how many times in a match I will be fighting someone and accidentally throw out s.623 and just fucking lose because of it.

It does exactly what the name says. Except it isn't the opponent that dies. It's you.

Nice idea for a series!

Very funny, subbed

I can’t believe I landed this move in a real match before 💀 against a B rank on fightcade. Pretty much did a stand crash with stand on 5C, and accidentally input 623 A and it frickin hits-

DIO is so evil that he's able to fill his movelist with several god awful moves you'd never want to use and still be a high tier character.

That last line sent me Guess I'm subscribed now

If a move has more than 30 frames of start up it has to be busted and have armor or something.

Bruh I'm saving this shii😂😂😂 got me rolling

High risk, low return.

I love those vine boom sound effects

W video + Liked + Subcribed

The reason the move is called “Die!” Is because after doing the move Dio fucking dies

The real reason dio died was the friends we made along the way

I would like to hear your thoughts on SamSho V Special's Mizuki and her 623AB, also completely devoid of use.

Good video 😳

God ive rewatched this like once an hour since it came out, punishable object makes me laugh everytime

Ah yes, the move I’ve used the most because I keep accidentally keep using it because I have exactly 0 idea how to play this game past ‘continuously spin the circle pad while mashing buttons until a cut in appears”

This looked like a half-decent (albeit unusual) attack at long range... until the double damage.

Laughs in Warlock Punch.

this move is lore accurate.

Speaking of JoJo Fighting games, in Eyes of Heaven, one of Yukako skills, where she adds effect of Old Joseph's "Shrewd Old Man" but worser, is worst what I ever saw, effect is at last good because it's Paralysis *BUT THIS DOESN'T MATTER*, that skill have the same problem like HFTF DIO's "Die!", a long wait to make it work and a fucking not working tracking, it will always active behind com Add to it skills what does *ABSOLUTELY NOTHING*, Style what is Diego's "Frightering Monsters" (Yes I know it's localised name of Scary Monsters) what don't have super defense and also worser Bruno revive with insta perm-style, you get the worst character in EoH

Sometimes you have to wonder what the devs were thinking when they make a bad move super punishing.

wait until you see the "the worlds" ultimate in the fan game "requiem" that hits yourself

Its swag as hell though

I was thinking “man it can’t be that bad” but holy shit wtf

I never played httf but I really enjoy watching videos on it

As someone who's friends with a Dio main who used this move as a joke a lot, I can confirm that this makes the Dio player gib in seconds LOL

Make more of this

Holy shit this game is a gold mine of bad moves Young Joseph's dp, dio and hol throws, and probbaly a lot more

HAMON THE BEAT!!

Well at least it isn't vague about it. The move does what it says on the tin lol

Other garbages moves in heritage for the future would probably be Kakyoin's India Arm (214AA) since it does so low damage and can be punishable on HIT, and Polnareff's Chariot Requiem, 3 bars super, an eternity to startup just to put the opponent to sleep

I want to see you try Super Smash bros Melee, I have a few like Mr Game & Watch's shield (It doesn't protect him at all) the game was rushed so you can find the best and the worst

Since this is DIO specifically, they could have made the move use time stop to replace the horrible time on The World's movements. Hell, you could even just have the TS be shown as a blink. Having the move use time stop would also mean the opponent has less time to get away from The World's attack. Even with this, the move would still be ass since the only thing you have to do is look at DIO and you'll know that you should just walk away from the incoming hitbox.

The move name is a reference to the player that use the move

As a Dio main I’m convinced the devs were smoking crack during development

would be kewl if this move was actually usable as super move, but twice the speed and force, when the world would hit the opponent, he Punch so hard them to the ground that would make them bounce, making a very good combo extender

Nice video Also what's the name of the song used?

I feel like this move should be only able to be used in stopped time, because it’s literally “die kakyoin”

As a dio main I can relate

worst part, it's very easy to do it by accident while trying to perform any of the 3 Ranges of MudaMudaMuda

Izanami's rib shield. In regular Central Fiction it's a thing that made Izanami despised by anyone who isn't an Izanami main. In Central Fiction Remix you become invincible but unable to act until your barrier is drained and then the opponent can literally one shot you with even the weakest attack.

it's for combo extend too once you use this move while they are in air you can make them float one more time and do combo

Suggestion: kula's apresentation move

Punishable on hit as well

Playing hftf i got punished so many times not only for using that move but literally anything that disjoints your stand

I'm trying to think of a worst move but drawing a blank.

as a dio player, fuck this move. but you can combo into it in certain cases, really funny to do. However, not worth the times I've died because of it

Owing to the double damage thing it is somehow worse than the cosmetic taunt moves Smash characters have

Koko da!

I need more

It has bonus 5k damage to an opponent kakyoin

Corrected Verdict: If you use this move, Alt+F4 to skip the lose cutscene

I think another move to consider is Dan's Ultimate Taunt, and any possible moves from Tekken or Mortal Kombat

I keep accidentally using it all the time

DIO has this and also an awful grab yet is still a pretty good character

Hell,that's even worse than DI2 because that move's saving grace was a dumb ass input that you have to clearly try to get. I think it's entirely possible to accidently throw this out and get fucked

Imagine having your Past version be better at everything than present you because frames my man.

So...what does it do when it does connect? Is it an instant kill? I feel like it would have to be...right? ... Right?