I could have pressed a little less on the paint to remove the contamination, and that would have not make the scratches that were found at 5:09. However since I knew the entire car was going to get a 2 step polish and then ceramic coated, I knew I was going to have to break out the polisher and polish the paint, so by pushing a tad harder, it allowed me to save a bunch of a lot of time during the claying stage. Regardless, a beautiful shine can be achieved, just look at the final results at 7:32.
milanmastracci Hey man love you videos! I have a 05 TSX and I'm in Toronto. I know you're in the St Catharines area. How can I get you to detail my car?!?!
17 years detailing experience. I love your videos and how you really take time to explain. But please be careful when teaching others to clay that way. In no way should you scratch the car when you clay. Work the clay much more into your hands. About five minutes to warm it up. Also use a lot more lubrication and apply less pressure.
Just wondering if you used a fallout remover after the initial wash before claying? I would have thought iron fallout remover would have pulled a lot of the environmental fallout off the paint before claying. I've got a car in similar shape to detail. Has never been washed in 6 years. That's going to be fun!
I really hope the people watching this don't go and do this to their car. you should NOT be inflicting that amount of damage to the paint when claying. PLEASE GO AND WATCH OTHER TUTORIALS.
Less pressure, more lube and you wont get the horrible marring you inflicted - gives you less to correct too... The whole point of clay is to apply the bare minimum friction, not force it onto the surface.
MzNToS I'm talking about the white marring which can only have been caused by the clay bar. When claying you are not meant to apply any pressure, if you force it then the clay will not glide over the surface - instead it will stick and cause lots of friction which when combined with the dirt it's picked up is equivalent to sand paper. The more pressure you apply with clay the worse it performs and the more likely you are to damage your paint, and one can quite clearly see Milan *leaning* into it and the bonnet flexing.
Thomas Cole Unfortunately that's not how clay works. As mentioned a few times, and in anyher previous comment of mine, clay performs best and is safest with minimal pressure. Putting too much pressure will result in it acting like sandpaper. Filthy paint like that will come back clean just by spending more time on a lower pressure. For reference, when I clay my car, I can normally do the whole thing in about 30mins. When I clayed my Dads car, which had never been detailed in its 10 year life and gets put through an automated wash maybe twice a year took me over two hours to clay, but came up perfect and I didn't have to apply any pressure at all and I certainly didn't marr the paint.
I have claybared many vehicles and have never caused scuffing like that. I think you are applying to much pressure or something. But looks like you were making your job a lot harder than it should have been
Herbert Halstead i think he is using a really abrasive clay. And if you use the wrong lube it will eat the clay and make it look that way. Old clay will disintegrate and look like this. Clay is very product pacific IMO.
Lack of lube is what will cause that. I use the Ammo NYC method for claying... Dunk my washmit in the buck of soapy water and have that serve as a constant lubrication source as I clay. It holds a lot of water and as soon as I need more, just clench my fist a little and down it pours lol.
Agreed. Unless the paint is ridiculously soft and the clay is extremely aggressive, combined with his technique, it may very well be causing the marring due to the extreme pressure.
Herbert Halstead you got duped! The marring is not scratches its from the clay bar turning liquidy, he did this to make it look like he fixed the paint i bet he buffed it out with some spray wax.
DON'T USE THIS VIDEO AS A GUIDE. More lube. Slow down. Less pressure. Clay pulls contaminants off of the clear coat. Doesn't need a ton of pressure to do that. You're using it like a damned scrubber. If you take your your time and do it properly, perhaps with a less aggressive clay, you may not have to polish afterward. Also, with very bad contamination you should knead the clay almost constantly. You have too much abrasive contaminants in the surface of the clay. On a badly contaminated car a couple of passes turns that clay into something as abrasive as rubbing compound. 5:11 was horrifying. I need a drink after seeing this and it's too early to be drinking.
Morgan Mansfield doesn't stop the fact that this guy is using the wrong method of claying and is scratching up his paint by his own fault, not because of the clay or contamination on it's own. Good claying technique wouldn't have scratched the paint up like that. You also might want to educate yourself on proper Grammer before telling others to educate themselves.
i dont know why everyone uses that shitty spray detailer to clay bar with, you have to use practically the whole bottle doing one car to get enough "lubricant" on the paint to avoid scratches like what was witnessed in this video. All I do is wash the car, dump out old soapy water, fill with fresh soapy water and use the soapy water with the clay in sections, rinsing frequently. Takes fewer steps and doesn't require you to dry the car off in between washing and claying, plus the soapy water gives you way more lubricant between the clay and paint to lessen the chances of scratching the paint. Never had any issues doing it this way.
Jay G the paint was super contaminated. It’s ineveitable. He was going to compound and polish it afterwards and he needs to remove everything before even putting in the machine. He’ll remove the scratches left by the clay with the polisher
In fact, I think you have done ok, but you lacked enough lubricant for your claying man. By no means, should claying cause that marring you have. You think and say it is normal, but it is not. You're a great guy and are doing well but I do not agree with you on the marring you have from the claying man. Honestly.
I just want you to know that that type of damage coming from the clayng is not normal. I've never dealt with anything quite that bad so maybe there's nothing better he can do in this case but in a regular case that is NOT normal.
Otagner I have dealt with paint that bad and he was using way too much pressure. Completely miss represented how clay should be used. Can you introduce scratches while claying? Sure but more on the level of micro marring not wet sanding.
I've dealt with much worse than that and had it come out fine. I don't know what he's doing wrong as I've never seen that kind of result from claying but whatever it is it's wrong.
The light scratching comes from the cay bar being overwhelmed by contaminants, turning the clay into "sandpaper". I bet a solvent body prep used first would have removed the majority and saved the clay bar too. I ran across this same issue with a new F250 and Porsche Boxster. Great video man!!
Everyone keeps saying this guy is doing this wrong but he’s actually doing it correctly. This car has a severely neglected paint job and is littered with contaminates. The clay will remove those contaminates but they get caught in the clay bar, and the clay bar is repeatedly dragged across the paint. Unfortunately, a severely neglected paint job like this WILL scratch when you clay bar it. They is no way around that. But it can be buffed out during polishing.
I've been detailing for many years and I did the exact same procedure to my STi. When I first bought it, it wasn't nearly as bad as this infiniti. But it did have that harsh feeling when you ran your hands over the paint. I clayed it, polished it, IPA and many layers of sealants. The car still looks amazing. I do a Menzerna 4500 every spring to just bring that pop back out and reseal it. But this is a good video. I bet your friend was happy to see this black car back on the road clean as hell. Good video!
Yeah he really was!! Its crazy though how a detail can make the car look like new again, even though the car can be old, like the 03 G from the video. Cheers man!!
Good job man. Sometimes scratches are unavoidable when using aggressive clay on a horrid surface. It happens. That's why we compound and polish afterwards. It bugs me seeing so many "detailers" try to criticize instead of just saying "good job".
You should use Iron X or something similar first to remove most of the embedded particles like tar, brake dust, and other contaminants. It's going to prevent those marring. Using car soap instead of spray detailer will be better because spray detailer contains oils that can ruin the clay and make it kinda like it is melting based from my experience.
How the hell did you scratch the hood with a clay bar?? You’re pushing way to hard and doing an area to big before you fold and not twist the clay. If you clay bar a car properly the paint will not scratch.
I love your paint correction videos. It'd be great if you made an updated, step by step video showing what pad u put on to what compound your using, how much you use, what to look for and even an estimate to how much it cost you to detail the exterior of of an entire car.
I didn't know about "claying" thanks for teaching that! I had always been taught to use a chemical cleaner to remove that crap from the finish and it always took off just a little paint when it was used. Your clay gets the crap off without removing paint!
Chrisfix channel shows you how to buff the headlights to look brand new. Your customers would probably go bananas for you to detail the lights as well.
Not sure if anyone else had mentioned it, use mothers mag and aluminium polish with your DA polisher on the headlights. Works like a charm and won't harm paint. So after playing and Buffing, what did you do to degrease/decontaminate before applying the ceramic coating? Car looks great.
You should have polished the headlight 1000,1500,3000, Grit sandpaper and compound and Polish then throw some clear on there and it'll look good as new
Gabe Lopez thats a fact! I do when they look oxidized like that. Especially on a black car. They stand out even more so when the car is buffed and shiny
Nice work (y) , just a little question, how many pads did you use to complete the entire car? I mean, how often do you change them while machine polishing?
I agree, that's nasty! You did a great job getting it back into shape. How long did it take from start to finish? I would suggest that you knead the clay much more often, apply no pressure and use a lot more lube - at that level of contamination, I'd use soapy water to save some cash.
There's alot of people in these comments hating on this guy for doing it wrong, but I just don't see it. He's using plenty of lube, and he's holding the clay with his fingertips so he can't be using that much pressure. I think it's just that this car is so filthy and whatever it's contaminated with is so hard and abrasive. That piece of clay looks darker after rubbing it a few times than it does after doing my whole hood.
He was using too much pressure though, you can see it in how it bows/moves the hood. You might save a small amount of time by using that much pressure, but you just mar and scratch the paint in the process. You've just gotta take it easy and let the clay bar do the work for you; ideally you don't want to apply pressure at all (other than the amount required for it not to slip out of your hand).
Milan,People are complaining because they don't know what's really going on, and their claying experiences, which are probably few, are different than the claying process in this video. I can tell that there was/is NO OTHER way to clay this car on a timely basis with the specific type of contaminants that were on the paint. Good job.
Being a detailer for over 4 years now I’ve never scratched a car while clay baring, please let the clay do all the work and apply little to no pressure and WAYYYYY more lubrication
Used something very similar that when in contact u could see the rusty material running off the surface just like in ur vid,but still had to clay bar as the solution only acts as a break down agent but thanks. That was also about 4-5 yrs ago. Technology has come along ways since then as it seems to almost every other day.Love the vids.
I’ve been detailing for about 8 years and I am sorry but clay does not induce scratch onto surface, it may mar the paint but should NOT scratch the paint. This is where iron remover, tar remover, traffic film remover, wax remover come to play. After all that you will Clay bar the clear coat, the problem with scratching the clear with clay bar is you may induce deep scratches that you will NOT be able to polish afterwords. Don’t take it the wrong way, just my opinion. Happy detailing!
Can you list the brand of ceramic coating you used? Is it a coating or another form of paint layer that needs to be painted on? Thanks for any info you can provide!!
How long did it take you to do the full paint correction process Milan, considering you are an expert, how much time should a novice spend on the full process? Thanks!
From claying, to 2 step-polishing (along with clear-coat burn), to everything, it took me about 15 hours, plus products. I found the clear coat to be on the harder side of the spectrum.
why is this video still up ? Make a update video and show how to do it properly or some people may go out and damage there paint. i have watched a few of your videos and trusted them but now i dont know if i should.
milanmastracci when useing a claybar on car paint (hard or soft paint) when done properly it should not scratch the paint. i think you used a bit too much pressure and not enough clay lube. i have worked on cars with soft paint and exstreemly bad paint contamination and never scrated the paint that bad. its not normal as you state in the video. (sorry for any spelling mistakes or bad grammar its not my srong suit)
The problem is that there is no way he cleaned the car well enough. The clay bar should not come out black after a few swipes; the section is too dirty. That's also why he's scratching the car... It's a black car, that seems to have sat outdoors and was never washed.
milanmastracci it's funny you ask that when in response to another comment you admit to using bad technique when using the clay bar because you were going to polish it all anyways, so it can be somewhat misleading to say that these results are normal then go on to say that you used the wrong technique for claying, then ask what was wrong with the video.
Just bought a black 2016 GMC Sierra and I'm trying to take care of it but it got swirls and I'm trying to get ride of those wat do u recommend, have u heard of F11
Does the back dye penetrate through the clear coat and dye the base layer? How does it become more black if it lies upon the clear coat? Can you please explain?
Yikes, mega marring. Oh well it came out in the end... Great improvement.Ive never clayed a car that bad before but seemed like a lot of marring. Thanks for the video.
can i remove scratch on nano ceramic coating on my car with clay bar? if can't, could you tell me how to repair scratch on nano ceramic coating because i wax it and it make my car scratched
It looks like residues from over sprayed clear coat that's often left at repair shops - Not really "contamination", it accumulates a lot of dirt because the surface gets very rough. The scuff marks in this case would be okay since it requires some extra effort to take off the residues and the process itself damages the surface. I'd recommend wet-sanding it down with 1200-2000 grit then polishing. Great job, looked great at the end.
Looks top notch! those headlights you could have wet sanded with 3000 grit paper then used the same compound and polish as the car and they'd have come up like new! ;)
And all the years I have clayed cars I have never had that kind of marring from using clay you need to use a lot of lube so there is no drag from the Clay. Forget even using clay use the new wash mits that does the job for you.
I've clayed and polish many cars and I've never marred a car that bad after claying. You might want to use more lubricant and or less pressure so you don't damage the paint as much.
My car is new. Barely 3 months old and has rough surface (not as bad like your friend's car). Would you recommend to clay it because i wanted to wax it but im afraid i would scratch it instead i have not clay it yet. Pls adviceee thanks
This just realized that my car is literally worse than this. The owner treated the car very well, but never went any further than to power-wash the car. Basically the inside of the car is great, but the outside is horrible
No lie I was clay baring my 2006 Infiniti g35x for the first time...... 130k miles never garaged and east coast snow and salty roads. Let's just say It was like sandpaper when I wiped the clay on the paint. Great video man!
