These guys are the brains of the operation. Not directors, not producers, or executives producers. The writers are the ones who really creates the show or the movies. Their the ones who create the world and if their not getting the respect or recognition or more importantly the pay they deserved then Hollywood can try to make their own ideas!
So these are the people responsible for the terrible shows I’ve seen recently. As far as I’m concerned they should strike forever the vast majority of them have no talent in storytelling and are activists not writers.
I'm in the idea business--research and art. I've had so many ideas stolen and still see it and have it done to me all the time. It just makes me not want to talk to those people, and sometimes my colleagues in general. I just am boring and shake my head. It's gotten that bad. Remember when Prince put SLAVE on the side of his face? Many artists do not even own their own music, art or other formats. If you make your living or even an advocatin. from ideas/property and someone stole your property/ideas that is illegal/. NO ONE even blinks an eye if you even harm someone else's property --land, stuff, v knowing that property are your ideas and how your applyu them. Credit goes where credit due.
British writers have been producing 6 episode seasons for decades now and the BBC seems to pay them enough that it's been sustainable. Especially because there are no adverts or product placements either for the BBC and Channel 4 and ITV only have a 70m possible advertisement base. So I really don't get that somehow American giants can't/won't pay their writers enough to produce 8 and 10 episodes a year to 10s of millions more people.
just different culture, i assume at least. i know from experience that tons of americans are so accustomed to poor treatment/pay, that the idea of reasonable pay and treatment is absurd to them. its sad.
@@janechoy2073 Also Hollywood were the people who created the now infamous "Hollywood accounting" that's designed solely to screw people, don't be surprised that Hollywood is cutting every corner to avoid paying people so the execs can horde that money for themselves.
@@Koreryn It's also extremely rare for a actor to suck up that much of the budget anyways. Most production budget is spent on locations, filming schedule and effects.
“Under the current formula for a one-hour series produced for Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, a writer receives *$72,000* in residuals _for one episode_ over three years. Over five years, that amount grows to *$99,000,* and *then to $114,000 over seven years.* _The companies most recent offer further improves on this.”_ …what am I missing here??? What’s wrong with *that?!* better investment than I’ve _ever_ made
Take into account that’s just one episode, if that writer did a 12 episode season, and did 2 seasons, that’ll be around 2 million dollars if not more… just for one series, if they’re doing multiple series it could be even more. They should be grateful so many different people would be insanely happy with that kind of pay.
I support the writers - but the problem stated - a writer under the streaming system is 8-12 weeks then at 3:17 earlier the shown contract is shown that a weekly minimum is 11-12 K per week. They say that a writer can't live on that. (3:38) so quick math - 8 weeks x 11,000 = 88,000 $ - so if a writer gets one gig a year at 88,000 - taxes it should leave $60K - or 5K a month for working 8 weeks. REALLY? Is this what you cannot live on? I get it - everyone wants more - but is this a poor writer - it's a change - sure. If you get 2 gigs a year - thats a very livable wage. We want more - ok We want residuals - like the old TV networks with Ads... ok (but that's gone) We can't live on that.... come on.
I'm also irritated how people can't live off that. However people like Bob Iger (Disney Chief Executive Officer) makes 25 MILLION a month + bonuses... No one needs even a million per month. At least 24 Million a Month should be distributed amongst the people working behind the scenes - cleaning staff, carpenters, catering ect. They are the ones who really keep productions up and running
See on its own it looks like they’re making a livable wage but you have to remember that most writers have to live near or in big cities like LA, where cost of living is much higher
@@artmis6158 Okay, but 88.000 a year for only 3-4 months of work is still a liveable wage - even in LA. And that's the minimum they are paid. Nurses, teachers all also live in LA and don't make that much, but they still have to commute to work every single day, while writers can technically just sit at home for the other 8-9 months they're not writing for a show... (Or they could get another job/ write for another show...) I just checked and a 3 bedroom apartment in LA is around 5000 per month. That's really expensive, but would still leave 2000 a month. I'm not sure if that would be enough for groceries and other expenses in LA, but if someone lives in a 3 bedroom apartment I assume they have a family and their partner is also working. That means a writers 3-4 salery is enough to afford an apartment for the entire year. Prices are going up everywhere. I know people who work 40+ hours a week, year around and have to live with housemates because the cost of living is so expensive. And those people work jobs that benefit other's lives. We have to be a bit honest here and admit that writers don't fullfill live-saving jobs in dangerous work environments
3:17 was about development rooms. Writers must commit to a show before it's decided whether the show will be produced at all. It's like taking a job with a VERY high likelihood that you'll be laid off in 3 months. But maybe you won't be. But you probably will be. But you hope not.
They. live. in. los. Angeles, where most of this stuff is made. also $88,000 in LA is different than in Arkansas. also the writers are an integral part of alot of people making a lot of money; they deserve their fair share. just because people are artists doesnt mean they aren't working within a capitalist system which ironically is all about valuations
Those certain people: they just want to put their fan fiction and political ideas into media, does no one remember that a writer’s strike is what ruined James Bond???!!!
“Under the current formula for a one-hour series produced for Netflix or Amazon Prime Video, a writer receives *$72,000* in residuals _for one episode_ over three years. Over five years, that amount grows to *$99,000,* and *then to $114,000 over seven years.* _The companies most recent offer further improves on this.”_ …what am I missing here??? What’s wrong with *that?!*
People that complain that nothing original is made in Hollywood seem to think that we should use AI to write scripts. Unfortunately people see this conflict separate from their lives/profession. This is a race to the bottom and it’s not stopping at writing jobs.
People saying nothing original is being made and that AI is the solution when it literally by definition pulls from existing materials and cannot create anything of its own… 🤦♀️
@@liftingskies8970 interesting, ya know at one point they were saying that computers would take over blue collar jobs. But it turns out computers are creative! And it can do a desk job! Well maybe the writers can get a job picking fruit or something.
If earning close to 100,000 dollars is not enough, thats absolute bonkers! This strike should not recieve support. How is 100,000 dollars not enough?? Even if u are working only for half a year!
Sorry, I just figured out where you got that number. That’s the pay for a DEVELOPMENT room. Where you work for like 2 weeks. It’s not the same as a writers room. No one is paid like that every week every year
Let’s all keep in mind when they say “living wage,” they mean living in THE MOST EXPENSIVE PLACES IN AMERICA! I feel so so bad that you might have to leave your Hollywood condo or Manhattan apartment. Some people really have it rough I know..
So you have more writers than the industry need. Sounds like a simple supply and demand issue. Some writers need to go and find a new job. It sounds cruel but it’s true.
Why only protest in Hollywood? Ain't this a global issue also? Writers are often underpaid, while they create important content, but the same goes for artists in general. Anyone remember the story of Van Gogh?
I don't see anything wrong with people wanting to be paid what they're rightfully worth for the work they do. For too long a lot of businesses have paid employees what they think they deserve and that needs to change, so if a strike will bring about change for the better i stand with the writers 1000% in their quest....but that's just me
“Writing is like a gig economy” It totally is! Wake up writers. The whole Hollywood machine (unless you are salaried) is a gig system. Not just the writers. Everyone is freelance so it’s a gig job.
Nah, because all the jobs are through networking and it's difficult to network virtually. Also if a writer gets promoted to showrunner, they need to be on set for that
@@marzipan2555 I think the poster was asking about regular staff writers. With Zoom and SharePoint technology, why couldn't the job be done remotely? My sister-in-law is a Nurse Administrator for a hospital that's over 1,000 miles away. If she can do that in the *medical* field, surely a TV writer can work from home in Iowa.
@@roccoz2231 In theory yes but that's not how studios work. They want you in la and ny. That's where the studios are so the jobs follow. So it could be done remotely but the studios aren't allowing it.
If they wrote good material I might possibly care. But I’m sick of the greed. All they’ve been producing for years is exactly the same tripe- yet they want even more for the same? Disgusting across the board.
@@fos1451not all writers are getting paid well. It’s a different job. Execs are the problem. They get paid EVERYTHING for forcing some poor writers to write the line “Palpetine … has returned.” Did that writer want to write that line? No. But the execs wanted Palpetine back.
My daughters love to watch stupid RU-vid videos, and frequently prefer it to actual shows. No idea why they like it, but Hollywood has competition that it never did before. I just don't see where the money is going to come from
The quality of writing in shows and films has been declining for years before this strike with original content being phased out for remakes, it's as if writers these days have no original ideas so they just redo something that was a hit 20 years ago, I don't think I will even notice if they get replaced by AI
susan shows like SNL and the late night political comedy shows absolutely depend on the writers. And some of the best tv. I miss those shows, not the same as watching "the news."
@@jschuler53 I am very aware of shows that require writers as evidenced by my statement above. I miss those shows and they must pay writers what they are worth if they wish to continue. That's Just.
@@MichaelWalker-wu2pq We will see. Humans and AI's have some fundamental differences. And for right now - writers should be paid justly for services rendered.
@Susan Fuchs it's virtually inevitable. All things technology improve overtime. The first generation of a new tech might be rough but with more companies and more money invested they get better. Tvs, computers, cell phones, cars, etc. The same will be the case with A.I.
The model has changed. Deal with it. Shows only need 8 episodes. You can’t be paid more “just because.” And why no representatives from the studios in this video? It’s a one sided video.
@@akkakkakekkn They are paid 11k a week for a average 12 weeks a year. Still adds up to more then me or I dare say most people here make a year. Also FYI the country is in a recession now is not the time.
Cancel all streamers. Support independent producers! We are always silenced and given pennies for shows when these big businesses are making all the profits
Who's protesting Netflix because they need to pay too, all this dang money they charging me every month. There is no way that we should be paying an up charge every few years or months and the writers are broke 🤦🏿♀️
The strike steepens the curve toward oblivion. Writers were going to be displaced strike or not. Just as when writers switched from quill & ink to typewriters to word processors. AI is just another tool. Some writers will transition to prompter-editor. Others will just have to try their hand at authoring ebooks.
@@CarFreeSegnitz correct - AI will start as a co-pilot, hollowing our white collar industries before ultimately replacing humans altogether (name your timeframe). Watch economy-wide inequality balloon.
They can all go on strike for the rest of their lives as far as I'm concerned. I've been watching RU-vid and reruns of old movies, TV shows and documentaries for the past 5 to 10 years. I don't watch anything that they put out on TV or movies these days because most of it sucks. I think they're in for a rude awakening.
@@Koreryn I don't know if it can work on late night writers though. That requires some sense of political satire and must work on current events rather than past data. I'm talking formulaic Hallmark movie or Disney teen movie types. AI cannot create something inspired though, like Breaking Bad or Game of Thrones or Succession.
@@bngr_bngr Whoa jesus man. You know comics have changed a lot from the 50s and 60s. They aren't for kids anymore, I mean sandman, Watchmen, Batman year one, Batman long halloween, Saga, the walking dead. They are a respectable form of literature.
Support the writers now!. These writers are responsible for the incredible success of stories and success of shows on major studios. We need to support and appreciate writers now!. Writers should be treated with respect and paid well as stars are of shows and paid residuals and given stability as the stars of these shows are now!.
The writers are the brains of the industry. After all the woke filth of the last decade, these brains can retire to the bizzaro world they came from. We need new brains.
In the era of artificial intelligence, we must acknowledge the risk of job displacement that affects all professions, and the strike action by the Hollywood entertainment union is not the solution. On the contrary, we should emphasize that everyone has a responsibility to cultivate their skills and value to adapt to this changing era. First and foremost, it's essential to recognize that the rise of artificial intelligence poses a risk of job displacement across all professions. This extends far beyond the boundaries of Hollywood's entertainment industry and impacts society at large. The emergence of machine learning and automation technology has rendered many traditional jobs obsolete, including those in the arts and performance fields. Therefore, our focus should not solely be on protecting the rights of the Hollywood entertainment union but rather on addressing the challenges faced by society as a whole. Secondly, the strike action by the Hollywood entertainment union does not solve the problem; it only exacerbates professional divisions. While advocating for rights is undoubtedly important, we must not overlook the global economic and technological shifts. Resisting technological advancements will only leave individuals in a passive position, unable to adapt to the challenges of change. Instead, we should encourage actors and writers to proactively enhance their skills and grasp emerging technologies and cultural trends. Lastly, every individual bears the responsibility of developing their skills and value. The Hollywood entertainment union's strike may foster a sense of dependency, leading people to believe that union protection shields them from the threat of job displacement forever. However, the real solution lies in elevating individual aptitude and competitiveness through continuous learning and growth, allowing them to face future challenges. In conclusion, we should not support the Hollywood entertainment union's strike action. Instead, we should encourage each person to find their purpose, develop their skills, and cultivate their value to confront the challenges of job displacement in the age of artificial intelligence. Only by doing so can we maintain competitiveness and resilience in this ever-changing era.
If actors and executives cared about their writers and employees, they (actors / executives) would lower their own salary anonymously to keep things balanced .... but greed holds them back. That human ego at play ya'll ... we always asking for more. 😅😅😅😅
I think you should dock writers for excessive use of "f-bomb", rather than real words-give them a thesaurus as part of the signing bonus, when you finally reach agreement. I find that I cannot watch many (most) of the series due to that excessive use. You might consider giving subscribers a rebate for the substitution of the "f-bomb" for real words. Or make actual literacy a requirement for screen writers. I am serious. It becomes more offensive each year.
If the government approves this I'm switching who I vote for. The writers were offered 80% of what they were asking for. The studios offered them higher wages, agreed with them on AI issues, pretty much everything but the amount of writers in the room. 20 is too much for a show with 10 episodes.
It is very easy for the studios to win this fight with the writers. All the studios have to do is sit back and let the strike go on and on and on. The people who run the studios have billions of dollars. If the studios let the writers strike for the next 10 years I doubt any writer will have the savings to maintain them and their families without of running out of money first with no job. I don’t think any writers are billionaires who can sustain themselves financially and indefinitely in a 10 year long strike. However the studio heads sure can. Eventually the writers will run out of money and the studios won’t.
I live in Vegas and every time I see a celeb face on a series of slot machines, I wonder if that person got paid for that use? 🤔 Or maybe it was in Gene Wilders movie contract that the studio can use his likeness to promote Willy Wonka "for any reason, in any media, in perpetuity". Now add AI to the mix, and its easy to see where this could be headed. The Studio could "re-animate" Wilder in another Wonka movie (without Timothee) and save millions $$$$$$. 🙄 Not exactly fair, is it?
You know as I ponder this strike I realize that AI types of performers do not appeal to me. I do not animee because I prefer live action performers. So, actual human beings interpreting roles and/or performing can never be replaced with one exception. Game show hosts- but not contestants - can be replaced with BOTS. Good grief those hosts talk too much ie the host of Masterminds🤯 And, someone’s likeness should not be used unless the model is compensated and he or she receive ongoing residuals. I guess I now support the strike by both unions and do so by not patronizing sponsors of repeated programs. Reply
Why would you pay a human to do something you can get for virtually free ? Fact is, the majority want the latest technology, but when it hits you personally in a life changing way it's turmoil. What about the millions of people that have lost their jobs through the advent of better technology over the decades, the actual job roles that humans no longer do ! What did they do ? They got another job.
Good strike hope they dont get further employment. Hopefully we can use AI to write something that isnt a pile of woke bull. 90% of my favorite works of fiction from being a kid have been ruined by people who shoulsnt have been employed to work on those projects in the first place.
Well it took 148 days, but the writers' strike is finally over! And in more good news, SAG-AFTRA will be meeting with the AMPTP on Monday (10/2) for negotiations. Let's hope the actors can reach a deal soon too!
Those certain people: they just want to put their fan fiction and political ideas into media, does no one remember that a writer’s strike is what ruined James Bond???!!!
🛑 the strike. You all are getting paid 💰 money. It’s hurting our local sandwich shop & flower shops. So many thousands are out of work because of this 👎
Don't want to sell to a streamer? Upload it yourself on YT or elsewhere. It is not like you are providing essential services. Too much entertainment, too many platforms, too many shows. Get your script printed as a book.
Start over start your own high quality streaming services that are not endless scrolling and unending choice exhaustion. People are sick of it it is overwhelming and you spend so much wasted time choosing bc of the way they set it up. People will migrate to better choices.
I read somewhere that they make around 2,800 USD per week. How is that not enough? My immigrant parents worked at restaurant jobs for 1,200 USD per month. The studios should just hire scabs at this point. There are plenty of non-WGA writers who would gladly take those jobs and get paid those rates.
The stupid union mentality that says "you owe me a living" is one reason quality suffers. These are freelance, contract jobs by definition and nobody is guaranteed work in this scenario. Unless you are a studio employee it will always be project based. Also, the salaries studio bosses/producers make is irrelevant, they always have work to do, where actors, writers, directors are at the mercy of the demand for their particular style of acting, writing and directing, and whether it suits a project.
I find it funny that actors are walking out of premieres for the writers strikes yet they get the paycheck and make the tv shows and movies, when the actors wouldn’t be deek without writers
