The Yu-Gi-Oh! New Player Experience is...Interesting 

I was here when the title was SWS N43

Whoa thanks for checking out my video! I didn't actually get notified that you mentioned me until now 😅 I appreciate the shoutout and the support. Yeah objectively the game is dumb and I hate it sometimes but it's also extremely fun at times so I can usually overlook corner case nonsense like Kashtira Arise-Heart doing everything in the game lol. I play the game casually a lot but it's my first time actually making a video about it so I hope I did well by the community 😁

The first time I played Yugioh was in Duel Links and it had duel quizzes and a tutorial that would help you get acquainted with the basics and new things. It was so good cuz you could go around and test some decks, even if they weren't meta, you could get around and understand how pendulum, fusion, xyz, synchro works. And as new boxes are released, there are always quizzes for you to test the newer decks (tho the older tutorial and quizzes are gone bc they gave too many gems in Komoney's opinion ig). Nowadays, they still make the new box quiz, but you can only play it for a while. Of course I didn't become some god in ygo, but it really helped me understand the basics and look for mechanics/decks I enjoyed!

Ig the problem with a tutorial in yugioh is the idea that you genuinely need an academy like GX so that you can play even casually (excluding MD), You need a pretty decent understanding of every mechanic, effect, cost and interaction to have a proper game and that is just absurd. That is why MD has such a large fan base, apart from the non existent cost for most players, you don't need a perfect understanding of every effect to have some fun with friends.

YGO is like a racing, The different decks are different vehicles, from bicycles to F1 cars. The main problem, no matter what deck (vehicle) you use, Konami just gives you the same place to play. . Just make alternative formats and give a better place for low-tiered and high-tiered decks. It is stupid when Konami offers you multiple different interesting decks. But when you try the game because you love a certain deck, you don't even have a chance to play that deck, because it is a low tier deck.

I first got into YuGiOh during the Pendulum Magician Era I had an absolute blast learning the game through the DSI 5DS game It actually has a good tutorial

I always compare TCGs to Fighting games too. YGO is the only card game I've stuck with. I always say MTG is more like Street Fighter. Slower pace and more back n forth between the players and the general power remains pretty low for the most part. Usually the big blow outs were over a few turns in advance, and the crazy wombocombo is just sort of a "win more" play. YGO is the VS series/Anime fighter genre (borderline kusoge lol). Get dumpstered by absolute nonsense off of just making one small mistake or just not opening hand traps. Feels a lot like games with ToD's and absolutely degenerate looping oki.

I started just after MD released and the bit about needing to get your ass beat 50 times is so true, I’m just now placing in diamond

How much smaller YGO text would be if cards had a [1-turn] box to explain once per turn color coded to differentiate between soft and hard opt.

Learning to play an entirely new game at a high level takes actual time and effort ? What ? Who would've guessed that.

So, I have this friend who made a tutorial deck for people he's trying to get into the game and it's not like a deck where you just give them and tell them to have fun at the tournament. It's designed to basically go against itself while also teaching the rules of the game. And what I mean by go against itself is he made a duplicate copy of the deck. So, he's running the same deck as the person he's teaching and I think that is a really cool concept and, as far as I can tell, it works really well. If Yu-Gi-Oh created something just like that for newer players, that would at least help the bar from casual to competitive.

In terms of the amount you need to read, I think it's more that synergies are more complicated and almost all are a bit hard for someone to wrap their head around. And TCG still choosing to not number the effects. Vanquish Soul shows just how easy a card is to read by using bullet points, no obtuse and rulings problem creating keywords required. Say you play Scrap, and you've never even heard of Scrap before. You can be like, "Why should I play Scrap Shark? He pops himself really easily and all he gives me a Foolish Burial." But you can look at your deck and say, "Well, I can skim over the archetype for GY effects. Scrap Searcher has a GY effect that is good for recursion, I can get Scrap Searcher in GY immediately if I play Scrap Shark. Okay, I will play 3 Scrap Shark and 1 Scrap Searcher for this combo." And you could also look at a monster like Scrap Chimera and just know, "Wow, this guy can give me an immediate Synchro monster. I'll run three." Compare with P.U.N.K. for instance. It's got way fewer cards in the archetype than Scrap but you can't ever just read one or two P.U.N.K. cards, it all will point to something else. You look at Ze Amin as the core of the deck and it's like, "So he's a searcher. What do I add? Deer Note? Okay, what do I do with Deer Note? I reveal another P.U.N.K. monster to get it on field to get a level Synchro. What do I discard for this combo and what Synchro do I make? Also what do I revive with Deer Note's effect?" P.U.N.K. is a relatively simple archetype and even still it's got so many options and cards that go into more cards that a new player just reading one of the archetype's cards has now had to look through at least a half dozen cards just understanding what a basic Ze Amin usage entails. And then you find out, "Oh, P.U.N.K. isn't that great played pure, you need to find some other archetype that complements it to mish-mash" and do full research on THAT archetype's lines. Which then leads into, "And even if it looks amazing and has a fun effect (Dragon Drive) don't play your in-archetype synchro because these generic options are better." contributing to the homogeneity of decks. It's not even an issue of needing to read a bunch, it's that even if you know what every card in a deck does there's a level of complexity in even simple archetypes that can be overwhelming.

The comparason with YGO to a FPS is a really good analogy to what yugioh is like. The only way to get better is to actualy play the game (Shocker) and once you do everything will click and make sense. And Yugioh is incredibly fast paced, just like in a FPS it only takes a few bouts to determine the winner so "Conserving bullets/cards" doesnt really matter. Modern, YGO is just too different from other cardgame for skills to be reliably crossed over, which is why so many love or hate the game.

I think the fighting game comparison is really poor, its also notoriously a genre where you have to get your ass beat repeatedly to learn

So i did start playing this game in March and i also can maybe chip in my two sense in how it was getting into this game. So firstly the best decision i made starting out was by playing Duel Links. It has a relatively simple format that just let me understand and “get good” at the game. Then i moved onto master duel and i ended up making a 40 card version of my Duel Links deck at the time (Blue-Eyes). Got into my first few matches and quickly realised, i knew nothing. Cards like Ash and especially Imperm are never explained to you or make you aware of them. Which is annoying, doubly so for Imperm since it went against everything i thought i knew on Trap Cards. But after a bit i just decided to just keep throwing myself at the wall and seeing what stuck. After awhile i ended up ditching Blue-Eyes and ended up playing a new deck, Synchron. (I just thought it looked cool) After playing Synchron did i actually feel i was playing Yugioh and started to kinda grasp how it worked. Although around this time, looking back i am surprised i persevered as much as i did since i joined in the middle of a Tier 0 format, twice over i think (TCG and MD) and while those decks were annoying and i was coming across plenty of tear on ladder somehow this low. And it wasn’t until the deck was gutted i was actually able to get a win-rate against the deck, at this same time i tried converting to paper play which is a bit of a mixed bag. So for context i live in basically bumfuck nowhere and getting cards from American online stores is a pain in the ass. So i ended up sourcing my decks locally or just within the country and nothing is more infuriating than going through 8 card shops only to find one copy of a important three of online and seeing they never get in stock anywhere. Regardless if the card came out in 2016 or 2022 (Alternative and Shinonome if you were wondering were the examples) currently i am now sitting in platinum 4 in md and somewhat regularly playing db with friends, still haven’t attended a locals since i don’t live close to any of them. And am playing a variety of decks like Code Talkers, ABC and the one i am moreso likely to stick to for the foreseeable future, HERO.

To learn the game you definitely have to be okay with and be ready to lose a ton. Even if you're a returning player and haven't played for five or ten years, you're basically back to square one.

I've been playing Yugioh a bit under a year now (still considering myself a new player) and I've been enjoying playing it in Master Duel casually and collecting the cards. The wording can be confusing sometimes and when your opponent takes so long to play his cards or when he starts playing in your turn is annoying. Have tried ranked a bit and never again. But casual matches are mostly chill enough for me to enjoy. Would like to play irl as well but don't know anyone else who plays

Just imagine going in to test a deck losing the coin toss 5 times against, branded, dragon link, despia, turbo yusei and swordsoul to then get rekt by Labrynth, mathmeck, tri-brigade, floowandereze and later run into Eldlich, Alister and so many other degenerate strategies, I find it amusing but understand that there is people that do not like to get their asses handed to them in a regular basis.

Not the pro gambling discord screenshots

learning yugioh is like learning french , there's rule to something but there always exception

The variety in meta archetypes is still way better than something like Weiss, where nearly every deck is built around "level 0 advantage cards" "level 0 miller that either adds cards from grave back to hand or searches, draws if its from a trial deck" "level 1 climax combo that gives you huge advantage and tempo to build out your board and hand for the end of the game" "the level 3 climax combo that finishes the game, usually through a massive burn effect"

I am a card dealer and love the gambling aspect, but what I do love about yugioh is the bluff aspect in where any set card can be scary. I remember one of my opponents seeing the fear in his eye when I set 3 backrow, but 2 of them were bluffs. I used one of them, and then they were like okay, he decided not to over commit as he thought the other two where real lol its ogre. Lol

The best current card game is actually Keyforge. Keyfore is basically the only card game that has eliminated Netdecking and has an incredibly diverse meta with every set except for maybe 1 having current competitive success. The last 4 sets have also each been quite innovative.

I used to like ygo but it’s absolutely not fun anymore. You either get wasted by an absurd end board or you die attempting to make your own because they hand trap you to death… This is even worse in master duel. It’s a coin flip and then do they have maxx c vs do I have ash? That’s it

I started at the begging of this card game...amd yeah ot was basically get all the beaters and shiny cards and you win haha...although i like how theirs is enough cards to make any fun archetype anyone wants to play with

Respect to bro for playing my current main deck 💪🏾🗿❤️‍🔥 shiranui

Branded is the boiling pot of all of Konamis worst decisions. Hmm Masquerade burn damage, Dragoon Omni-negate with protections, and Nightmsre lock floodgates weeeeee!!!!!!!!

It would be great if konami experiments and tries a new ladder where the previous top 5-10% most played cards in the last 2 seasons wiuld be banned... A sort of player dictated rotation as it were. But its separate from normal rank and duel festivals...

The difference between leaning how to play currently vs back in the day are 2 separate games while I’m currently getting back in the game n can still find joy in the game but imo they broke ygo they destroyed the fundamentals… the cards r the same but it’s 2 completely different game I played since the game came out started trying to take it serious 07-09 back then if you knew the rules n never played a deck you could sit down n play that deck vs now every deck is it’s own mini game basically u just gta know ur lines most of the time we ur opponent is playing don’t even matter if you open ur full combo

I keep wondering how Konami wants to top the current state.. more instant-win cards? More cards that have all effects at the same time (and a QR code because nobody with a normal eyesight can read the text anymore)? The game's headed for a crash.

Yugioh is like a toxic relationship. You want to let go but something will keep you coming back.

You will NOT use my likeness to encourage gambling good sir. How do you manage to stay afloat with this crippling addiction....

I will say that there is no 5 minute tutorial on how to play yugioh. But yugioh does have a tutorial it's called duel Links And I feel like yugioh youtubers me too express that a little bit more In konami's advertising

I play this spiralling powercrept bullshit for 2 years and i learn that I'm a combo junker.

Just go watch the original video from the Creator. This react video is just Stevie watching the whole thing through and saying 10 words every 2 minutes.

8:02 Can't a friend just play a weak deck with a low number of actions per turn, just like how a friend can pick a weak character in a fighting game to teach? I get that because Yugioh is a card game, you are still required to acquire these cards, which is still a monetary investment, so I guess that's not particularly feasible. I mean sure, it doesn't teach you the metagame, but Yugioh isn't only the metagame. And if the new guy wants to get into the metagame, we can go smooth the entry rather than just throwing them in. Just like how picking a weak character, or perhaps a stronger character and explicitly not using a particular tool or tech doesn't teach you meta either, but if they want to get into competitive you can still ease them into it.

Your comment about decks all eventually boiling down to the same thing is kind of not true, I mean obviously there are decks whose mechanics are not competitive like this (Ghostricks hide and jumpscare you by flipping face up and down over and over, Ojamas are intentionally bad and annoying and get all over the place just like they show up in tons of card art, so they clog your opponent's board, Flower Cardians are just hanafuda shoved into YGO, Gravekeepers just stand there and don't do much except keep you from touching the graveyard, etc.) but there are competitive ones too: Kashtira, back before Konami realized the idea was terrible and nerfed the deck several times, used zone locking to represent a literal invasive alient empire making your planet uninhabitable as they terraform it for their own purposes; Vanquish Soul actually plays like an anime team fighting game where you tag out and use your allies for supers; Purrely actually has you give your little cat thing lots of treats and help it grow up, and depending on how you treat it, it can have a wildly varying personality (effect,) Runick plays like a fantasy adventure RPG where you're casting lots of different spells and replenishing your mana at a fountain, Adamancipator plays like actual paleontologists going on excavations. And there are a bunch of ones that are either borderline competitive (rogue maybe not in the TCG, but on MD) like Veylantz acting like actual pieces on a board game, or the aforementioned Melffys which are easily spooked little fluffy guys and just so happen to be have a tiny little level 2 engine to splash into Spright, or the Ghoti which are mysterious deep sea creatures that summon themselves from the banish zone, where it's hard to interact with them until they surface, as the replacement for the deep sea (and I like how most of their monsters are shit because if you take a deep sea critter up to the surface, it'll get the bends and die,) or Springans who use heavy artillery to blow up stuff by area of effect around zones and use themselve as ammo by loading in on their pirate ship as xyz material... it just goes on and on, or Dragonmaids who literally turn into dragons to fight by tagging out for high level versions and back in to their maid forms during the BP. I don't know if other card games do this to the extent YGO does. The only other card game I can think of that has the mechanical capacity for acting like this is MTG and even then it doesn't get to have the benefit of zones to represent a physical space. It's one of the things that makes YGO so charming at a casual level, IMO. It reminds me of how anime fights would take on entire scenario restrictions for the protagonist based on how the opponent's gimmick worked. Yeah the main way the game is played means that the concepts of starters, extenders, end boards, interruptions, and such are all gonna be there, but that's just the skeleton that supports the overall structure that enables the decks to play differently. Of course, like 50% of decks play the exact same (search, bin, summon from deck until you have enough mats to go into your ED and make your board) but the other 50% have cool gimmicks and I like that a lot.

My dude you have to react more to the videos. Stating to look like a Sniperwolf video lol

Yu-Gi-Oh needs alternative formats

Modern Yu-Gi-Oh is total shit, both for learning the game and in general. Konami needs to reel back the power creep, fullstop. For a new player, what's gonna happen nine times out of ten is they will get pitted against someone that will take a 5 minute turn comboing off and then lose instantly. First off, this is not fun for anyone, including veterans. Secondly, there is absolutely no space for a newcomer to learn the game, if the game lasted multiple turns, at least they would be able to play a few turns and get the hang of it a little bit. They would also understand why they lost. It's like being thrown into a professional football game and having no fucking idea where you are even supposed to be in the pitch.

....It would be good having a loreless format where duel terminal, albaz, World legacy, veesus & s-force lore cards are illegal, even cards wiþ art reations. Yeah, basically removing meta defining decks wiþ no compromises(sorry genex).

Yugioh has been a bad game since the 5ds era

Goat is not always a race to the bottom of the deck. You act like stall decks, control decks and burn decks dont exist in goat format. Also chaos is not the only deck you can play and some of the decks dont even run the chaos monsters

Max agree. GOAT format is so bad......

i think yugioh is a good game and i dont know if you like it or not because you still play it but you call it trash

The problem I see with yugioh is that despite the age to play being 6+, a kid below 10 who's new to the game can't and won't understand wtf is going on with today's gameplay. I played back in 2002-04 then 2016 and back again in 2022, the game changed so much. Even till now, I'm still trying to get the hang of chaining and don't even bother learning pendulums. So how can kids who likes the cartoon play the TCG when the card's description is a paragraph with so many stipulations of if this, then that scenarios. Not to mention, when playing in locals, you're literally tossed into the pool with vets of the game with a budget AF deck vs their blinged out, high rarity meta decks. How can a noob or a returning player improve if the playing field is uneven AF. Just my perspective because I'm a returning player last year and had to grind it out while I see kids that wanna play but gets discouraged fast when the card they need is expensive AF or they just keep losing to the meta.

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