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Theonomy: Good or Bad (Guest: Tom Hicks) - Episode 25

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In this episode, we discuss theonomy with Pastor Tom Hicks.
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27 авг 2024

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Комментарии : 36

@francesca95 2 года назад

I absolutely loved this! The more I learn about theonomy the more thankful I am for the cross! Thank the Lord for His mercy!

@TheParticularBaptist 2 года назад

Glad it was a blessing to you :)

@michealferrell1677 Год назад

Dr Tom Hicks is a major influence on my family, I’ve learned so much from his clear teaching of Gods word . I know that he doesn’t like to get into anything that would get into quarrels over secondary issues, but he is definitely a great mind fir such topics as this .

@keithrowley2193 3 года назад

The best 42 minutes spent, All week. Really good guys!

@TheParticularBaptist 3 года назад

Thanks!

@keyofdavidchristianchurch Год назад

Civil death penalties (all 34) ARE for the New Testament. I preach this in our church and it's SAD that so many of you don't want to FULLY Obey the Bible. Pastor Aden

@nelisbornman9283 Год назад

Gr8 discussion thank

@isaaccisneros8981 Год назад

This was really good. This was one of the best explanations on this topic.

@chrisjohnson9542 Год назад

This is so refreshing. Please can you guys help me out with more resources for 1689 Baptist theology specifically dealing with theonomy and Christian Nationalism? I really appreciated this stuff and theres so much rise of theonomy and postmilennialism on the internet right now and not enough of this type of pushback. God bless

@wpuymac 3 года назад

Thanks for doing this. I appreciate the conviction behind it, especially knowing the type of backlash and criticism that would be received. I would go so far as to say this was courageous.

@TheParticularBaptist 3 года назад

Thanks!

@singanewsong4279 Год назад

Found your video after noticing the explosion of Theonomists on the scene. Starting at 38:00 to the end. You Nailed It.

@TheParticularBaptist Год назад

Thank you!

@J.F.331 Год назад

I think you guys brought up some really good points and a lot to think about. Have you thought about having a discussion with a Theonomist like Jeff Durbin or Gary North? I think a lot of clarity can edification can come out of said discussion.

@keyofdavidchristianchurch Год назад

I'm happy to debate either of them. I've preached Theonomy for 7 years in our local church and was "friends" with Dr.North. He has passed. Durbin is a little WEAK on Theonomy, but is getting closer :)

@blank-964 Месяц назад

Enjoyed this, not sure I agree with every point though.

@TheParticularBaptist Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it!

@michealferrell1677 Год назад

Would not the general principle found in a given judicial law be equivalent to a moral principle of law ? I’m asking about 9:00 or so . I’m having difficulty understanding what he is saying exactly although I’m sure it’s right , could anyone maybe explain it further for me ?

@seanmoore9713 3 года назад

The real problem is that people use the word theonomy without using the original definition.

@TheParticularBaptist 3 года назад

Do you mean people that are for a theocratic system or those who are against?

@seanmoore9713 3 года назад

@@TheParticularBaptist the people who call themselves theonomists don't use the original definition. I thought you guys did a good job of accurately defining theonomy.

@pccj316 3 года назад

really good guys

@TheParticularBaptist 3 года назад

Thank you.

@burningsodium 3 года назад

The Bible says that it is moral, if you catch a thief who has disposed of the stolen goods, to make him restore fourfold or fivefold. In your opinion, would it be moral to chop off his hands instead?

@TheParticularBaptist 3 года назад

What we mean by "moral" is what is found encased in the Ten Commandments. The commandment to have someone restore their goods is not found in God's transcendent law but found in the judicial laws of israel. The proper distinction must be made between moral law and judicial and the categories must not be conflated. With that said, it would not be "moral" in the sense given above to chop off someone's hand for robbery as that judicial law passed with the nation of Israel's passing. We must not find moral law behind the judicial laws, but use the moral law ("Ten Commandments) to inform us if there is "general equity" in that judicial law. Does that make sense?

@burningsodium 3 года назад

@@TheParticularBaptist Clear as mud. It sounds like your view of Jesus is that he is a king without any political positions.

@interestedmeow Год назад

The most interesting part about the dispensational/paedo-Baptist ‘OT priority’ is frankly that neither of them actually understand most of the OT from the ancient Israelite and second temple Jewish mindset and worldview.

@bigsamtheevangelist5122 3 года назад

would you say the proper application of Psalm 2 and the great commission would be to command kings and rulers to bow to the gospel, to come to Christ by faith, or else they will be destroyed by the wrath of God who laughs at wicked rulers thinking they can keep his binding chains, instead of instead hermeneutic of trying to use it to bring the moral law as it must be the rule over all nations? Technically no kings can have a God fearing theocracy unless they come to Christ by faith and they are convicted to honor what God says in His word on how to run civil government.

@stevendavidson7118 2 года назад

When Tom Hick read Hebrews 7, 8 notice how he picked verses out and didn't read them in context. For example Hebrews 8:13 he didn't read right before it, where in verses 8-12, the Lord is going to writes the Law on people's hearts, and Neighbors will teach each other the Law, he doesn't deal with the text at all.

@TheParticularBaptist 2 года назад

The text says nothing about teaching their neighbors the law. In fact, it expressly says in verse 11 that no one will need to teach his neighbor to know God since they will all know God, having the law of God on their hearts.

@stevendavidson7118 2 года назад

@@TheParticularBaptist I'm sorry you are right about that, the fact is that the Law of God is upon there hearts, there is no throwing out the Law in the New Testament. When he talked about the Ten Commandments as being the Moral Law in the NT he does not really prove it from the New Testament, just assumes it. Jesus taught in Matt 22: 34-40 that loving God and Neighbor Depend/Hang on the Law of Prophets, they are how you know how to Love God and Neighbor. I think it would be best to have a Theonomist on to actually discuss the topic, I've listened to two of your videos on it, and neither are convincing to why theonomy is wrong/unbiblical. I know in another video y'all about not having to have a person on the other side to discuss the topic, which I agree, but if you are wanting to convince Theonomist Christian that their view is unbiblical, I think it would be best to have a debate.

@gbcelders7799 3 года назад

Excellent podcast, guys! Do you have any written resource you would recommend on a congregational level?

@TheParticularBaptist 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed it! Pastor Hicks write an article that could be helpful. pastortomhicks.com/2020/11/17/why-is-theonomy-unbiblical/ Van Drunen's "Living in God's Two Kingdoms" could be helpful as well.