There's No Replacement For This Broken Part! - 1968 Chicago Coin GUNSMOKE Pinball Machine Repair #4

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@fred_derf 2 года назад

"There's No Replacement For This Broken Part!" -- Sounds like the perfect excuse to buy a 3D printer!

@xheralt 2 года назад

Or look up a friend with one. Or try joining the nearest MakerSpace.

@Roadsurfer2k11 2 года назад

Library I read will do for free

@ronniewall1481 2 года назад

MAKE THEM FOR SALE.

@ronniewall1481 2 года назад

GOOD IDEA FOR THIS TYPE OF BUSINESS.

@crashoverride328 2 года назад

You would want a DLP resin printer rather than Material Deposition as the MDP printers are essentially a hot glue gun with style. If it gets hot enough then it would soften and deform.

@GutsyGibbon 2 года назад

I started watching for help with my Williams Grand Prix, but now I'm hooked. These videos are all fascinating! Go Joe!

@donmoore7785 2 года назад

Back in the day, if we didn't have something the right size we would make a sleeve on the lathe in our basement that fit exactly over that split part. Or, used solid wire wrapped tightly around it, with epoxy. I sold dad's lathe about 8 years ago. Personally, I would not leave such a loose fit. Those schematics are a very valuable resource. Love the construction of this old equipment.

@leadingauctions8440 2 года назад

I am glad there is a company restoring these treasure so they do not hit the junkyards

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Leading Auctions!

@frankhollein7093 2 года назад

When you first showed the broke hub, I thought of a small hose clamp around it,and super glue,with a set screw thru it.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work just fine maybe even better...

@6581punk 2 года назад

Plus you can use screw or something, heat it up and press it into the plastic part to reinforce it along the crack.

@harryhall5092 2 года назад

I've done this before with a small hose clamp with the screw that tightens it, I just put it on and tighten the clamp. I do Rock Olas the same way if the plastic cam on the side of the selector read out splits out. I haven't had any problem with this failing, they are still operating

@djmips 2 года назад

Sounds good but would the clamp parts interfere?

@VulpisFoxfire 2 года назад

@@djmips I'd think the only thing you'd have to worry about is the flange unbalancing the wheel or running into something underneath the wheel, depending on clearances.

@robm5399 2 года назад

What a cool piece of history. LOVE ME SOME PINBALL thank you for sharing.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thanks Rob we appreciate you hanging out with us!!!

@frankgagliano9677 2 года назад

Great job Ronnie, on that copper fitting. Can not beat make shift parts, whatever works. It's coming alive. See you on the next video. You should add the fitting to your parts page.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That's a good idea! Thanks for watching, Frank!

@scottgm321 2 года назад

I thought those paddles were useless being so short. I glad you showed us the ball saver. Thanks for the videos.

@paulstubbs7678 2 года назад

Wow, when all those relays kicked in on the first play attempt, it reminded me of an old school telephone exchange.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

They're so cool man, the best thing about them is they STILL WORK if you clean them up a little bit! Thanks for watching Paul!

@perfectpete1 2 года назад

Thank you so much! I was working on a Twinky unit and all of a sudden I had the same issue with the backlights. I had no schematics and spent a long time trying to figure it out. It was corrosion on the fuse!

@allanpatterson7653 2 года назад

Thanks for taking the time to share.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thanks Allan, we appreciate you watching!

@Ricky_B4 2 года назад

These are the first schematics I learned how to read when I was 12 years old. I assisted the vending machine company owner for free games, credit on the Jukebox and a couple of cherry Cokes when they were a nickel and served in the paper cone inside the steel base as payment. I went on to become an electrical engineer.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I'm going to have to look up those cherry cokes I've never seen that I don't think! Thank you for watching Ricky B!

@djmips 2 года назад

When you cut to being in the store with your cart, immediate laugh and like! I might've brought the plastic cam with me to the store to do the test fit right there in the aisle! ;-)

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I didn't think of that, lol

@VegasCyclingFreak 2 года назад

That’s crazy complicated under the hood. Those wiring harnesses remind me of what’s in my my old Tektronix 453 oscilloscope.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you for watching Vegas Cycling Freak!

@johnbos4637 2 года назад

Since a 3/4 ring is loose, one of the rebel Chicago Coin engineers probably made that plastic 18mm just to screw with people. Either that or it's 23/32 or 47/64 or similar. In the past I've made a few rings on a lathe to fix that kind of split plastic problem. One for a knob on an old vacuum tube tester and one for the rotary time knob on an old microwave. In these cases there was no screw and the inside of the plastic had the flat, so a tight ring was necessary to pull it back together (yep keeping a tight ring is a life necessity). I filed a small lead-in angle at the top of the plastic hub and tapped the ring on with a hammer. I can make my own custom rings because I work at an engineering company as a 1st class machinist :-)

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That's what I really needed that day, a 1st class machinist :) Thanks for watching John, yes, I agree with you we need those tight rings!

@MrMattDat 2 года назад

Very cool! I wish I'd found you guys before I tossed my old Joker Poker!

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

We can fix it :)

@riccardomagi1 2 года назад

OMG I remember playing that machine when I was a kid at the Kings Dept store in my town. Wow that brings back memories!

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Very cool, this may be the same one you actually played, did you scratch your initials in it or anything i can check for ? :) Thanks for watching Ric!

@danijelcar5184 2 года назад

Great finding and diagnostics on that EM😎👍

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thanks Danijel, glad you enjoyed it!

@mrk717 2 года назад

I was born in 1968 and I know how the Gunsmoke feels, over half a century old and well past our prime lol. Great video as always Ron.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thanks Mr K I'm glad you enjoyed it!

@miguelrios4602 2 года назад

It’s ALIVE! Great hack/fix on the score reel. Thanks for the update!

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you for watching Miguel!

@miguelrios4602 2 года назад

It’s just great to see when a plan comes together.

@GOTTshua 2 года назад

(cue music)

@86FxBdyCpe 2 года назад

Hey Ron, a lot of great ideas to improve your brass ring fitment. I was thinking perhaps a thin shim made from an aluminum beverage can or similar. 👍

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Now we're talkin you could shave off the side of a beer can or something and wrap it around :) Thanks for watching Steve!

@SheriffJackCarter 2 года назад

If I had that part in my possession, I wouldn't mind taking a crack at making a new one using 3D CAD & 3D Printing. Of course, most of it would be made of plastic, but the parts that get a lot of stress would be made of metal. I've made high-stress 3D Printed parts with metal inserts before.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I'm surprised someone hasn't taken the time to make one yet, they break on a lot of these Chicago Coin games, I haven't made one because it's quicker to just repair it but if they were available for sale I'll bet many people would buy one to replaced their hacked original! Thanks for watching Sheriff Jack Carter!

@SheriffJackCarter 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade It would be difficult to get remotely correct unless I had one to measure and compare to. If there truly is a market for these parts, I wouldn’t mind making them. 3D printing is a bit time consuming but something like that would be viable.

@timitbiscuit3620 2 года назад

You could have followed your link to Amazon and got the part. :) I would have tried a hose clamp possibly but your way is a lot neater. Great Video Thank you

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think a Hose Clamp would work just fine maybe even better...

@svgalib 2 года назад

Ron, great video as always. Very clever fix to the cam! A simple way to take up the gap would be to wrap the plastic with a few layers of blue painters tape. Worked on a vintage car distributor.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Good tip, thank you svgalib!

@anomicxtreme 2 года назад

I haven't seen guts like that since high school! Yes, strangely enough I had Vending machine repair I and II in high school as vocational classes, in Michigan lol.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Damn they taught you something useful :) We had wood shop for a little while but a kid at the other school cut his hand off and they stopped all that crap, lol

@anomicxtreme 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade I had almost forgot too that it was actually at a nearby school and had to take a bus back and forth (from school to school lmao) every day. Some program where they shared the vocational classes and traded students. Ours (Center Line) had welding and auto mechanics, Lincoln had wood and metal shops and building trades, and Warren Woods Tower had Vending & Business Machines and Cosmetology. The 80's were great for learning, but so much has been taken out of the schools.

@thecentralscrutinizer5105 2 года назад

_ "...SaWhaa??...seen guts since hi-skool??...shiiot, manigg, I's sawd a lotta guts all up in my hi skool couz...daily...guts be all up in my coco puffs even in the mornings,..gut's flyingz nonstops to F-L-A ho-say..._ _seen, carried, tasted, smelled guts my ntirez Hi-skool careerz mang_ _....all 6 & haf gadang yeers of it mang"_ ~Leon _"Juney"_ Blanton E.B Abram's HS Southside Chicago -PS 133 (Now just memorys)

@bradjohnson9671 2 года назад

A better solution for you. Use a fuel injection hose clamp. They are available in various sizes, just slip it over the plastic boss after drilling a hole for the screw. You can then tighten it down, it will act like a compression band. There is lots of room under the cam assembly so the clamp won't interfere with anything. I've used this a number of times on "unobtanium" parts. The clamps are wide enough so a screw hole won't weaken it. Still much stronger than the plastic. Very inexpensive too, well under $5.00 for a single clamp. The clamps are available at any auto parts store or Amazon (I personally buy stuff from the local folks when possible, Bezo's has made enough off me already)

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Brad i'll try that next time!

@Ricky_B4 2 года назад

If you made parts with a resin printer the mechanical strength is equivalent or better and the heat resistance of the material 238 degrees C is equivalent or better to the original parts. Having repaired pinball machines manufactured from the 50s onwards and owning several 3D printers I can envision Pinball restorers utilizing 3D printers in their shops or having access to someone that can make replacement parts for them on an as needed basis.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

We'll have to do that eventually for sure. Thank you for watching Ricky!

@naytch2003 2 года назад

Space mountain may be the oldest ride in the park, but it has the longest line😜

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

WOOOOOO I read earlier the Nature Boy told Vince McMahon to shove it, quit the WWE and now he's going to some other wrestling company, lol 70 years old and he's still got that swag!

@naytch2003 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade Vince McMahon does nothing but exploit his wrestlers..I remember when WCW was still around, Charles Robinson ( who is now a WWE referee) was a protege of Ric flair and he nicknamed Robinson lil natch

@naytch2003 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade He's the man is flair 🎢

@EngineeringVignettes 2 года назад

Have it 3D scanned and then get it 3D printed out of Nylon. And then put them up for sale :D

@sideburn 2 года назад

RTV silicone mold plus resin. Done.

@djmips 2 года назад

Molding is also a good idea but cleaning up the part in 3D can make sure you build the new ones without the age warping of the plastic you are copying. Not that it wouldn't still work but it would look nicer.

@sideburn 2 года назад

@@djmips hmm I’ve replicated broken parts and tiny gears with resin / molds and the quality, resolution, strength are insanely accurate. It’s like an OEM part you can not tell a difference from the original. Way better than 3d printing.

@HUBBABUBBADOOPYDOOP 2 года назад

Yea, I know people like the nostalgia of a warm, glowing incandescent bulb- but I'm a die hard LED lover. Cool temperature, easy on wiring, any color, thousands of hours of life, less energy consumption, "blink" off & on, instead of glow. I can see an old machine like this, ok- but the "digital" kind, that used the segmented LED scoreboard, or even vacuum florescent- LED bulbs in those machines would probably add a touch of "future" to it.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you for watching!

@sideburn 2 года назад

Thanks for calculating my age for me I thought I was 51.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

haha we're right behind you man

@michaelairheart6921 2 года назад

A piece of 3/4" copper tubing (pipe) would have been a better fit. The 3/4" fitting you used actually has a inside diameter that is 7/8" while the inside diameter of 3/4" copper tube is 3/4".

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Michael

@bkahlerventer 2 года назад

If the plastic is ABS you can reinforce it with acetone or 3d-gloop before you add the copper ring to tighten it better inside the ring

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Bennie!

@Joentje-fv9ho 2 года назад

Hi Ron, you are doing great! I think I would fill the space between te copper ring and the plastic wheel with 2 component epoxy glue or if there's enough space for a second copper ring I would place 2 copper rings around eachother or solder 2 half rings on the copper ring at the place were the screw comes through for more screw thread.

@brianjohnson4616 2 года назад

This is a lot of nice work!

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Brian, we appreciate you watching!

@kepler240 2 года назад

always like the sound of a relay machine

@phyternl 2 года назад

"There's some kind of bonus unit thing here in the middle let's see what they're calling it. They're call it a Bonus Unit, it's here in the middle." I died.

@pirobot668beta 2 года назад

That part was cast in a mold. Make your own mold from the old part! Fix the damage, make a mold from the repaired part, cast some new parts. Once you have a mold, you can make MANY new parts, maybe sell a few! 3d-printing is tempting for this, but making a mold from the old part is gonna give you a 'stylistic match' to the other older parts. 3d printed parts need a design cycle, and sometimes 'new designs' in an old machine don't look right. It will work, but it isn't exactly a restoration any more! If you know that appearance doesn't matter, 3d-printed all the way. Quick, reliable fix. If you are lovingly restoring an old machine and want to give it love, make a mold from the old parts.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Greg!

@Dave_Boyer 2 года назад

JB Plastic weld would work great for that, or a piece of 3/4 copper pipe would have a smaller inside diameter than the coupling.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I should have took it to the store and I could have tried it there on the aisle :) Thank you for watching Dave!

@silverian 2 года назад

Great work!

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Silverian!

@tahustvedt 2 года назад

If I had one of the broken parts here I could design a 3D model for 3D printing. PLA would be mega strong but temperature resistance would be borderline in an old pinball machine, though I'm sure a solid PLA part would work fine despite the naysayers in the comments. Newer materials like PCTG or GreenTEC would handle the heat no problem. Another solution is silicone casting resin.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Grumpy Modeler!

@RobTheSquire 2 года назад

I would use some silcon putty to make a mould and pour in some resin to make a copy...but that's just me and then I would make loads of spares to sell.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

You could probably do that and do pretty well, I don't believe anybody has reproduced them. Thank you for watching Rob!

@joshsorheim 2 года назад

Nice job!

@simondempsey1 2 года назад

What a great easy repair Ron. So simple but effective. I keep looking at that Tilt plumb bob, isnt that up the wrong way? Cant wait for the next vid.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Yes they have it up on the top, I've seen that before not sure why people do that... it may make it less sensitive but i'm not sure the point...

@fordgt500ss 2 года назад

I was expecting the fix to be an adjustable hose clamp, it would have even closed the crack when tightened if you wanted it to :)

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you for watching fordgt500ss!

@kh40yr 2 года назад

At 8:03 there is a hole on the middle platter that could be oil lube thread tapped for a simple set screw,,for a 2nd bite on that motor shaft,,, and, if there wasn't one,, one could be added so long as you have the room and material. Maybe even drill and tap a 3rd set screw,,on the remaining platter wheel hub, depending on the room and material. Needs to be made out of self lubing UHMW polyethylene. It would last another 150+ years or more with just finger switches riding on it.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work great, thank you Kh40yr!

@Ricky_B4 2 года назад

Use a small hose clamp, that’s what I used to do before I got a 3D printer.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I was thinking of that but I wanted to try Clay's trick on pinrepair.com, he came up with the pipe idea.

@katenunyabizness9221 2 года назад

I would have been tempted to use a hose clamp to bring the two halves of that cam back touching, then a light use of Plastruct Bondene to keep them together. Then I would have added the brass ring like you did. I've been slowly repairing some toys from the 50s-70s and it is way better than super glues.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work great!

@huseman21 2 года назад

I think a 3dprinter would be your best friend.

@patrickbriney7563 2 года назад

This one looks like a real challenge... Keep plugging along... I know you will get it.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thanks Patrick, we're going to get it!

@davidcbear 2 года назад

i'd have used a adjustable hose clamp to squeeze it back together with super glue and then drilled a hole in the hose clamp for the set screw

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work great! Thank you for watching David!

@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 года назад

I might have filled the extra space with some JB weld, but hey this worked well enough for now

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That would work pretty good I think, thank you for watching!

@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade yes, it's actually the first thing I thought about, as I once successfully fixed a broken, rigid plastic vacuum cleaner wheel with the same thing. The way it is now, with just a band, it could fracture into smaller bits into something harder to fix solidly. Taking the wheel out and filling the spaces now would probably save ole Gunsmoke a lot of grief. If you can get a wide enough worm gear hose clamp, you would have enough room even to drill a hole to put the setscrew through that, and you could glue the whole thing up in one stage. Otherwise use the worm gear hose clamp to glue up in one stage, remove the clamp, drill out the set screw hole if necessary, and add the copper band and more glue in a second stage (you could grease the set screw too either way to prevent glue adhesion).

@glasslinger 2 года назад

A few minutes with even a small lathe and you could whip out a perfectly fitting collar.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Yes sir! Thank you for watching!

@ronniewall1481 2 года назад

3D PRINTER IS CHEAPER FASTER.

@glasslinger 2 года назад

@@ronniewall1481 You still have a shitty plastic part. Go with metal on something that is that critical to the operation of the machine.

@ronniewall1481 2 года назад

@@glasslinger YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW THINGS WORK I CAN PRINT PLASTIC THAT WILL PUT PREFORM METAL. YOU'RE JUST TRYING TO PROVE YOU'RE SMART BUT IT WONT WORK ON ME. I'VE WORKED WITH THIS STUFF IF NASA IS SENDING 3 D PRINTERS INTO SPACE THEN THEY CSN BE USED FOR OTHER STUFF. YOU JUST WANT TO BITCH PLAIN AND SIMPLE. YOU START WITH ONE POINT THEN KEEP TRYING TO SPIN THINGS.

@ronniewall1481 2 года назад

@@glasslinger YOU DO KNOW THEY CAN PRINT OUT METAL PARTS.

@boobrowsky 2 года назад

hose clamps are a miracle for for such a shituations, and its easy to punch hole trought

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work great, thank you Bobr!

@richa9719 2 года назад

Curious if a piece of 3/4 pipe would have fit more snug. That coupler was designed to fit over a 3/4 pipe. Still cool way to fix. I was thinking about epoxy and using wire ties to hold together.

@donmoore7785 2 года назад

Yup wire and epoxy is a classic fix for this. Or a tighter sleeve.

@Galazad 2 года назад

as jimmy Hendrix all along the watchtower plays in the background

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That's one thing missing from our videos we always play music in the shop but I turn it off when I film so I don't get copyright strikes, I've been trying to leave it on quiet in the background and get away with it for awhile now, lol

@PeteRondeau 2 года назад

I can smell this machine through the video. lol

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I picked up a Rock Ola jukebox today off a guy and whew you can really smell that nicotine, haha. Thank you for watching Pete!

@weirdsciencetv4999 2 года назад

3D scanner -> mesh software -> CAD (possible to skip if you just hack around in the mesh software) -> slicer -> 3D printer. Or you know, hack it together with a copper sleeve.

@weirdsciencetv4999 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade No actually I think you misunderstood me, I was saying your way was better because it was far more simple. KISS philosophy. I was trying to pay you a compliment. Anyhow, I love watching your channel!

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

oh sorry, you know it's hard to tell intent on here, thank you WeirdscienceTV I appreciate you....

@weirdsciencetv4999 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade totally understandable, you’re absolutely right about text. Maybe I could have been more clever and made it less ambiguous. I watched your repair on the asteroids just a few hours ago, then I got sucked into warlords. I loved it!

@makingtechsense126 2 года назад

First thought for a cam fix; pex pipe crimp ring. Second idea; hose clamp.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Pex Pipe Crimp ring, I didn't even think of that that would probably work pretty well once you crimped it, good idea!

@GOTTshua 2 года назад

No crimping.... just glue to reinforce and "snug-up." Speaking of pex, gotta run some new water lines.

@chadchoate 2 года назад

Any thoughts on 3D printing the part out of ABS filament?

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work!

@michaelnschultz8794 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade Been following this repair. I had a friend do this for my CC Sound Stage which had the same issue about 4 years ago, it's worked great.

@richa9719 2 года назад

It would work, but the fix was a lot easier :)

@firemedicjm911 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade The good thing is once you have copied and printed one, Then you will forever have the ability to make Chicago Coin replacement cams for future repair projects.

@crashoverride328 2 года назад

ABS has a melt point of 200C / 392F, it will soften / deform below that. If the cabinet internal temp from the lights / motors / environment approaches that even theoretically it could / would compromise the part, that said, a resin print from a DLP printer wouldn't be affected by heat and would be much higher resolution than a filament / MDP print.

@bobwatson957 2 года назад

Get it 3-D printed. Plenty of places will measure it up and get it printed up for you. Get it created in a hard plastic.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Bob!

@DjResR 2 года назад

That is quite challenging pinball machine._

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

It sure is!

@ocsrc 2 года назад

I don't remember this one. This is a really cool old machine

@robb233 2 года назад

Have you considered a hose clamp? would remain tight, and is cheaper, and doesn't require cutting.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

What's done is done :) Thank you for watching Rob!

@robb233 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade Keep it in mind, for 53 years from now! :)

@mikee4216 2 года назад

You could have also used a piece wire and wrapped it around a few times and then twisted the ends with pliers until you got the tension you wanted.

@donmoore7785 2 года назад

That is how we would repair it back in the 70s, and add epoxy. I would do it the same way today.

@InMyHead 2 года назад

It's always really cool to see these old EM's come back to life. I was thinking the same thing as some of the other comments. I am pretty sure that you could get plastic parts like that scoring reel 3D printed. But, to be honest. I really liked the solution that you used with the band around the outside.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

The only reason I didn't get one 3d printed is the time it would take waiting for it....

@InMyHead 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade I agree and really, why have one 3d printed if you had a fix for the original I would see 3d printing as a viable option it if it was really broke like teeth missing or broken in two

@derek763 2 года назад

put a piece of metal tube over the plastic and drill and thread a screw hole into that

@jcthe2nd 2 года назад

small auto motive hose clamp the one you tighten with a screw driver and some epoxy will have it fixed in a jiffy

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think that would work just fine, thank you Jamie

@gojoe36 2 года назад

NEXT CHANNEL *Joe's Classic Video Games 3D Printing*

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I might have to do that, lol Thank you for watching Bill!

@MirceaD28 2 года назад

There is another solution. you can make a metal outer ring with a threaded hole for the set screw an press it fit un the plastic. That way it doesn't matter if the plastic is cracked

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you MirceaD28!

@brianwild4640 2 года назад

A thin piece of fibreglass board with holes drilled in fixes the broken plugs with some epoxy

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That would work, thank you Brian!

@brianwild4640 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade looks very professional when done. I have done in the past on similar plugs. But sadly never had the fortune to work on a pinball machine. Good videos 👍

@jayytee8062 2 года назад

I wonder if the super glue and bicarb soda trick would also help fill in and stabilize those cracks...?

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think it would work great! Thanks for watching Jayy Tee

@jayytee8062 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade No worries bud. Watching from Australia!

@Rotaris1 2 года назад

Just subscribed, dont have a clue but fun to learn

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Rotaris, we appreciate you hanging out with us!

@phyternl 2 года назад

What about a pipe clamp? Don't have to worry about dimension so much, just tighten it up with a flat head screw driver.

@ejonesss 2 года назад

i think a hose clamp would work. if you have access to 3d printer you could 3d print a new wheel.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think it would work, I just wanted to try the fitting trick they showed at www.PinRepair.com ! Thanks for watching ejonesss!

@MrButtonpresser 2 года назад

You’ll probably say “what accent?” But I find your accent easy to listen to. Greetings from Australia… mate!

@DirtCat 2 года назад

I agree with the comment section here. 3D printer then tie it up with a handheld, or stationary, 3D scanner to build you a new part.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That would work, but I fixed this in an hour, how long would it take me to 3D print one from scratch? Thank you for watching DirtCat!

@zaum2002 2 года назад

Rock Hill ? I lived there in the late 70s early 80s and remember a pinball and early videogame gallery on Cherry road.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Do you remember where it was? was it in the cherry road mall or somewhere else.... I've always heard too that in the 80's there were a couple bars and gamerooms on our street, Caldwell St. downtown... but I've never been able to figure out if it was in our exact building! Thank you for watching Zaum2002!

@zaum2002 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade I just had a look on google earth and I think it was in that strip mall where Woody's Music is now ? I haven't lived in Rock Hill since 1983- things are different. Ha

@coxyofnewp 2 года назад

Been looking through Pin-repair for the last hour or so - Been really interesting. Really glad came across you Ch today - Greay watching alll the vifs etc sub and like earned ;)

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thanks Coxy, we appreciate it!!!

@gnrrailroad1531 2 года назад

The 3/4 pipe has a 3/4 inside dimension. The reducer fits the outside of the 3/4 pipe hence the sloppy fit.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That makes sense, thanks!

@gnrrailroad1531 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade You are welcome. Love your videos.

@VulpisFoxfire 2 года назад

I dunno if balance on that wheel is especially important, but you could maybe use a hose clamp as well? That does have the issue of a flange coming off the side, so I don't know if it'll collide with something under the wheel.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I think it would work, there's a big open spot down there for it to spin around in!

@VulpisFoxfire 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade Cool! The clearance was something I wasn't sure about...for all I knew, there was a component next to the shaft that it would run to. Look at this way...you could potentially say you repaired a pinball game by going to an auto-parts store! :-)

@j0hnf_uk 2 года назад

A worm drive hose clamp would suffice for this job. Provided you get one small enough.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you John

@westcoastronnieOC714 2 года назад

I would probably get slightly longer set screw with a stainless steel lock washer and you know down the road that that screw will not come loose on top of what you're also doing. I would try that to see if it worked .

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

That would probably be a good idea!

@cosmicraysshotsintothelight 2 года назад

Just love all the availability jokes. Look at all those carbon arc flash marks! Wow. Hey you could make a 3D printed version of it. (I could). Probably fix it with a hose clamp. You need some reading glasses too. It was almost a full 16th under 3/4 from what I saw. But that fits with copper pipe, which has an ID of 0.785".

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you for watching Gary

@scottfindlay2625 2 года назад

find a good machinist and have new ones turned from brass.. or have a bushing turned for the OD and thread it then you have no more plastic spreading the threads will be in the brass bushing instead and should work great.

@johnbethell1952 2 года назад

I still use ft & inches, and pounds & ounces, in New Zealand

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

My Man!

@johnbethell1952 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade well at 69 yrs old i aint going decimal

@thecentralscrutinizer5105 2 года назад

The solution fix for this problem @ 22:50 is simple..... 3D printers _CAN_ be your friend ;) Pins are individually soldered anyways

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

The pins aren't soldered in the housing though, it's some sort of press fit that's weird, you might need a tool or something to press them in, i'm not sure :)

@thecentralscrutinizer5105 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade think those are the cut-wedge type mount pins???, a weird torsion thing with a hairline notch in base metal...hard to describe couz....sorry

@davidh6713 2 года назад

The adapter used is a coupling and has a bigger OD than regular pipe.

@memyopinionsche6610 2 года назад

Almost had chicago gaming confused with chicago american Pinball of today. Which that company made the remakes of attack from Mars and medieval madness and I think universal monsters bash. Plus hot wheels.

@acehart2 2 года назад

I think 3d printing will be a good way to go and then you can make a many as needed

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Only issue is it takes so long to get anything like that done when this repair took like an hour...

@acehart2 2 года назад

True but as the Plastic get older it will break more and even that cool repair will stop working

@rager1969 2 года назад

Yeah, 3/4" OD, since the ID needs to be smaller to fit snugly.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

Thank you Rager1969!

@6581punk 2 года назад

The superglue and baking soda trick can be a good way to repair some plastic parts, not sure it helps here.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I've never tried that but I believe that may work!

@donmoore7785 2 года назад

I have used that trick successfully in multiple repairs. Personally I would not use it in this application due to the stress at the repair. Also, it may not work on this material.

@memadmax69 2 года назад

The repair works. However if it was me, i wouldnt use a pipe. I would use like a 1/4 inch wide hose clamp that you would use on a engine heater hose, drill a hole in the slots that the tightening screw uses to tighten the clamp on the opposite side of the clamp to make room for the set screw to go thru. Its guranteed tight and will last forever too lol

@williamjones6337 2 года назад

Wouldn’t it have been cheaper and easier to just use a hose clamp? The screw closed type. They sell them cheap and they are easy to drill through

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

It was $3

@MakarovFox 2 года назад

another easy way to fix plastic is whit that trick using super glue (cyanoacrylate) and baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) this mix is super strong

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I've never tried that but need to! Thank you for watching Makarov!

@MakarovFox 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade no problem :), i like pinball but i never saw in the flesh one of thats machines only played the xp game hehe

@ItsaRomethingeveryday 2 года назад

I bet Todd has one somewhere in his warehouse

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I'll bet he does too! I just had a crazy guy call me on the phone and argue for 30 minutes because I won't sell him the credit wheel off this game because the guy's not using it and he needs it for his game. I might have him call Todd but then Todd would hire a hitman to kill me, lol

@ItsaRomethingeveryday 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade the way you fixed that part was really clever

@wbarry1970 2 года назад

Could you remove the screw and chuck it. Doesn't look like the right one anyways. Press together and glue/epoxy back together. use a flexible epoxy wrap around it. let it harden and drill a new set screw hole.If an epoxy wrap wont work try a very small hose clamp. That would also hold it together. Just an idea if you unable to 3D print. Not sure how much torque this would be under but if its not too much this might get you by.

@WreckDiver99 2 года назад

So...what happens if that score motor hub cracks at the shoulder? That old plastic is pretty darn brittle, even if it's nylon. Too bad they didn't just use a tapered pin. This item also looks to be a decent candidate for 3D Printing a replacement as well. Granted, you'll need a pretty durable resin for it, but I think it's possible.

@Alex-lk9tk 2 года назад

What someone should do is make a copy of it that can be 3d printed.. So that when the hole part breaks down you could just print a new one.

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

I'm surprised nobody has yet, from what I understand this happens on most of these Chicago Coin's.... thanks for watching Alex!

@OriginalPatrickWilliams 2 года назад

Anyone else notice that he was using the 1" side of the piping, not the 3/4"? Glad it still worked out though!

@robbfisher2876 2 года назад

Definitely thought that was odd

@LyonsArcade 2 года назад

There was no 1" side of the pipe, if you watch the video you literally see me go to the store and buy a 1/2" X 3/4" bushing... so if I was using the large side, it was using the 3/4" side. Where did you get that there was a 1" side of the piping? I showed the box I got it from, I showed the label and how much it cost... Thank you for watching Patrick

@OriginalPatrickWilliams 2 года назад

@@LyonsArcade sorry, I guess you're right! I must have just misread it. It looks like the smaller side would fit over it better is all, but if it works, it works!

@robbfisher2876 2 года назад

@@OriginalPatrickWilliams I blame bourbon! That's my story and I'm sticking to it. I really enjoy all the work you do on these classics.