Small clarification for Eula : HYV would generally not want constellations on 5 stars to be too good, but there's such an incredibly small portion of F2P or low budget players that reach C6 on standard 5 stars that I don't think a really good C6 would NECESSARILY be that much of an issue. Also kinda didn't think about it that much, she might not be the best choice. Oh well
I have c4 Jean, c2 Mona, c2 diluc, and at least 1 copy of every standard banner 5*. I bought welkin like 3 times during the early days of the game. I think it's completely likely to c6 a standard banner 5*. Eula definitely shouldn't be a standard banner character. might as well throw ganyu, yoimiya, zhongli, etc in it at that point. You know, because those characters aren't worth pulling on either according to "theorycrafters", right?
Hi zajef I have a question 🙋♂️, kazuha with aggravate, how much is the dps increase he gets from this reaction and I hope you talk about this topic 😄😅
@@JustSomeGuy009 I started playing maybe 4 months after the game launched. Only money spent was on one welkin. I have C0 Qiqi, C0 Mona, C0 Jean, C1 Keqing, C1 Diluc. I believe I'll get C6 on one of them one day, but that day isn't coming for a long time.
I think albedo is just a victim of early game constellations, I don’t believe hoyo were as comfortable as they are now with the design of that system. So some characters get dumpster fires as constellations because they think they’ll be too strong with better ones. (Doesn’t change the fact albedo should be a standard geo though lol)
@@Yor-Yor-Yor it’s iffy cuz he’s a main dps that’s not dogshit. there’s no limited 5 star that’s just childe but better, the way hutao is better diluc and raiden is better keqing (and probably al haitham will be better tighnari).
As far as Albedo's constellations go, the thing to keep in mind is that he's an earlier designed character. That has two implications. First, Hoyoverse hadn't adjusted the power level goal of five stars yet, hence why he's mostly used because he's the second best off-field geo character in the eyes of most players. And second, his constellations will be more miss than hit, and not ramp up his power nearly as much as newer five stars. So it isn't that they plan to put him there, but rather, that he was designed at a time when the design parameters were different. If they do add him, though, then they need to give him a good, accessible, four star weapon, rather than this trend of making him a good user of limited event weapons. Well, that or they need to start re-running friggin' events already. Sure, Harbinger is a good weapon for him, but he should have a defense%, 4 star, standard banner or craftable weapon option. That said, I do think he'd be a good choice. He's Mondstadt, so his materials are accessible at low AR. He adds a geo to the mix. He fits in easily in most teams, just for his off-field damage potential, so a newer player will likely get far more use out of him that the likes of Mona. As far as Geo as an element goes, I think it is screwed over for now. Gorou's design is a mistake. Now you need both defense and geo to be worth using. And that's doubled down with the Husk set, which, again, is geo and defense. And this adds a further issue that now you want multiple characters chasing the same stats, on the same set. And, of course, there's Crystalize being rather lackluster as far as a reaction goes. Wouldn't mind them doing a little something to help it. Say, have it do more damage to shields based on your EM, just go give EM a tad bit more value to geo and to make the idea of geo as a "decent against all shield elements" a bit more basis in reality.
that’s literally what u want from standard 5 stars though? a big boost in ur early game but dmg that falls off for late game? he’s great until u actually need dps, at which point good luck finding a slot for him if u didn’t pull for zhongli/itto. the easiest way to buff geo would be to make it shred elemental shields. monogeo is like physical in the sense that u can’t run it into abyss mages/heralds, but geo doesn’t have the advantage of an entire class of enemies with lowered resistances. one thing i think hyv has gotta add is options for alternate scaling characters. (4* hp/def polearm/sword/bow). Black tassel is better on zhongli than his signature it’s so doomed man
I don’t necessarily think Gorou’s design was a mistake. Is it kinda a bad look to give Geo DMG Bonus at c6? Yeah, because it locks other elements out of the DEF% scaling gimmick, since Gorou is very clearly not intended for anyone outside of Noelle Itto and similar DPS. But there are many arti sets where you need multiple sets on multiple characters. There have been since the literal beginning of the game. Pretty much every Anemo has to wear Viri, every burst support wears Noblesse or later, Emblem. But yea Hyv needs to add event reruns where Albedo gets a permanently available signature weapon.
I think the one of the main requirements for being on the standard banner has to be that the unit cannot scale too well with constellations, which is not the case at all for Eula. People who have been playing for a time and aren't insanely lucky are bound to have cons of the standard banner 5*s, and Mihoyo wants you to pull for the new characters and not have a broken high constellation Eula.
@@nightwingdark8785 not really imo C1 is mostly useless on a team with good rotations. You'd only use it for CC, but there are better anemo characters for that and non-anemo healers exist C2, like any ATK speed buffs, generally doesn't do a ton outside of make some things easier or getting another hit or 2 with fast enough attackers. "Pretty damn good" is not what I'd use to describe it lol C4 is only good for anemo DPSes (and only Xiao is really decent there) C6 is purely defensive. Cool but not that good for what this game is lol. And, she already heals a lot. This means the constellation has lower impact even if you needed defense instead of pure DPS. Not to mention Beidou and Xingqiu offer the same thing at C0 And with C1, C3, C4, C5, Jean doesn't do THAT much damage. More similar to Zhongli except her element and healing actually makes her burst more useful (and not just a DPS loss in many scenarios) than his burst. You don't use her kit for her personal damage, the higher multipliers just help it to not be dogshit All this is completely incomparable to a single constellation that basically guarantees you can delete any nonshielded enemy in one hit lol
This entire comment section is why the standard banner is a fat L imo. This comment makes a good argument for why Hoyoverse should get rid of it and replace it with previous patch banners.
I am of the opposite opinion. Firstly because a lot of people wouldn't want to play Eula anyway due to her playstyle and ''element''. Secondly because if the Standard banner which is shit, suddenly had a lil more appeal it would be a win-win situation. On top of this, the amount of time and luck required to get multiple Eula const to start scaling her into top tier territory is so high, we may have stopped playing by then; without considering you would still want/need a Song of Brokeback mountain to go along.
For a long time now I've thought that Albedo should be a permanent banner 5*. Not a DPS, easy to learn and use, f2p friendly, one of the most important characters lore-wise, the character with the most dialogue in the game (or was at least, don't know if that's still true after the last few events). Having him as a limited banner character just hurts his usage, even more so now that the pyro-hydro-double geo teams have faded away and geo usually going for triple geo and not just mono geo (although I guess a lot of people prefer mono geo unga bunga).
The only real problem with Yoimiya(well really any Inazuma character) being on standard banner is that you can’t access Inazuma until getting to that point in the archon quests. That means Yoimiya’s ascension materials would be completely unobtainable for a new player who pulls her on standard banner for quite a while.
They wouldn't be able to be added to the regular standard banner anyway. It would have to be a new one if it ever happens. Materials (Naku weed, Pyro Hypostasis drops) could be added to a trading post in Mondstadt or Liyue or to the star dust shop. Weekly boss drops like the ones from Signora and Raiden are not needed until AR 40+ and by then they should have Inazuma unlocked anyway. Monsters like Specters and the Riftwolves have already been added to Sumeru/Mondstadt.
Also, worth noting that Inazuma four stars have the same issues, and are on the standard banner. So just because it would be a poor design choice from a player perspective, doesn't mean that Hoyoverse wouldn't do it. The better way to handle it, though, would be like FGO does. And yeah, that's weird saying that anyone should copy any part of FGO's gacha system. But basically, this is one aspect they got right. They add characters to their standard banner as your story progresses. So that would mean that while you aren't in Inazuma, you can't get Yoimiya, but once you are, perhaps once you've finished the main story quest, then she's available through the standard banner. Which is really what they should have done with the Inazuma four stars, as far as the weapon and standard banners are concerned.
Well i think Geo should break shield more effective against different elements shield because they can't work well with others elements so nothing wrong if they can eat more elements aura to break shield more effectively
the sad fate of geo elem. a mistake of a non reactive elem in a game full of elemental shields and armor. crystallize reaction should have d.o.t. and the shield strength should be based on elemental gauge rather than hitpoints. Isnt that why archaic petra have 4pc effect? Then elemental mastery wouldnt be so trash on geo chara. And that makes even more sense for albedo Q giving 125 EM buff.
Ive used a geo team on every abyss since itto came out and some geo construct gimmicks with zhongli traveler before that and I can say that is already one of its perks. Regardless of what they throw geo can break it. The hydro abyss herald was the only issue but that one is just stupid in general and DEMANDS cryo
@@hellfire6714 it's not good enough. Also in geo team, Albedo and Gorou is staple. There is no reason to replace them for something else. Also geo constructs are annoying because it block your move and you can accidentally climb on it.
@@hellfire6714 the only way I've seen it done is a person managed to keep it in zhongli pillar radius, without it breaking the pillar. Which is more rng than skill
@@hellfire6714 I'm also a Noelle main and i don't even bother to put Zhongli in my team because i have 3 better choice for that position to use: Yun Jin because she buff your normal attack significantly and generate some geo particles with her E; Yelan because she buffed your geo damage by a lot, deal off-field damage and generate crystal consistently; Raiden because she help recharge the team, deal additional off-field damage and with her E and generate crystal consistently
Albedo on standard would make it harder to get secure a geo team for people not winning him in the permanent banner or to lost 50/50s. and he's necessary to make the team complete. I can go 2 years without completing my geo team if he's added to standard and i'm unlucky
Also mihoyo "need" him for every November-December banner because he is genshin's mariah carey 🤣 (no, but for continuation of dragonspine event series)
This, also there are only a few geo characters and taking one away would make them even less, for other elements it wouldn't be a problem but geo mostly works with each other. And seeing how it's the least popular element they may not add another one any time soon, they already won't for the entirety of Sumeru as far as we know.
When they want to beef up the standard banner, they'll do what they did with Tignarhi which is release them, give them one rate up, then toss them into the pool. Now whether or not they'll make them an actual good character remains to be seen.
Just make Wanderpog Invocation and slap Albedo on there. At the rate Genshin is going, they won't be able to rerun characters efficiently if they stick to the current setup for banners (as in, we're gonna need triple banners or a rotating standard banner).
Getting albedo off the standard banner would be so amazing, although the people who rolled for him as a limited would be sore about him being "devalued" and rightly so.
If albedo was on the standard banner, I probably would have rolled for Itto. Needing both itto and albedo to play just one comp is just way too expensive for me
It's is hard to afford if you are f2p and also Geo just doesn't go anywhere else so investing into geo units is always less worth than investing into literally any other element
@@yoba867 thing is, freeze teams have very powerful 4* alternatives. Not just that, but their 5*s usually fit into multiple teams. But also I dont run any freeze teams either lol
Nice, my question about Cyno/Beidou made it in. I figured it'd work, but I was mostly asking because I keep seeing people outright dismiss running Beidou with Cyno on principle of her needing a battery, without the thought that Cyno would be doing that from on-field.
The ONLY reason I would be upset about Albedo being put on Standard is if they didn't give him at least one more rerun before that. Because I really want Albedo- and I really want the opportunity to guarantee I get him before he's shoved into a nebulous "maybe you'll get him if you lose a 50/50". Or they could add the weapon banner thing to the standard banner, that would be cool.
Honestly just put most of the older characters in the standard like any gacha games please, also gl getting c6 cons for eula in standard, the more the characters are in standard the harder it is to actually get cons, keep in mind you can get weapons as well any sane person won't pull on standard just like in any gacha games lul, but I can see why HYV not doing it, sinr they released new character after a long ass time
Wish for a 4* weapon in the weapon banner if: -You're ok getting ANY of the 5*s -Your account doesn't need any 4* character constellation and whatnot -That's not the only 4* weapon you want in there -You're pilling up wishes and is gonna be a while before your next banner For endgame players is mostly fine to do some pulls, tho i would say weapons in general are way less entertaining then getting new characters.
True, this happen to me when ar +50, look guide for some char, and like every genshin content creator said "use favonius or sacrificial weapon, etc". But i didn't have any of those weapons 😂
Idk what's worse on this comment section; -TCs sheeps shitting on Eula/Yoimiya like they are unusable when the game is easy. (May as well have a soundboard with Ayzel repeating Eulabad 3000 times per second on your streams to make your average viewer happy) -Eula mains getting mega triggered by one man's opinion. -Comments talking about Eula's damage thinking you need Bennet to hit 300k in abyss when you can hit that with a 180-190cv build using a 4* weapon. -That one dude saying Kokomi is Qiqi 2.0 Ah man, Genshin community.
Yeah, I agree completely about the state of Geo. Its absolutely crazy that Geo is so dependent on its 5stars (Zhongli, Albedo) or high constellation 4stars (c6 Noelle, high constellation Gorou) but they simply aren’t frequently available (only 3 Geo 4stars, two of whom are extremely new) and at the SAME TIME is the self reliant element. Tbh if I didn’t love literally everyone in the Geo cast (excepting Zhongli - who is simply too strong for me to miss) I would be struggling with a benched Albedo. I really hope they bring a Geo 5star to the standard banner at some point.
No. No no no, I completely disagree on Geo being fine, in a good spot and needing no changes. If you're making elements tier list, you will need to add 10 tiers below the second worst element just to show how bad Geo is. Especially now when Electro got boosted by Dendro to a pretty comfortable spot. 1. I fundamentally disagree with the idea of self-contained element being good in a game like GI, focused on elements and reactions. Especially the current state of the roster. Let's assume every element has 10 characters to it. When we have any non-Geo character, it has at least 60 other characters to choose from as their teammates, while Geo char will have only 10. That destroys any prospects of team building or creating a fully functional team using characters you have and not those you must have. For this idea to work, Geo needs 3 or even 4 times more characters than any other element, which is ridicuolus. 2. To play Geo teams you must have several limited 5* or specific high cons 4* and you can't swap them with anything else, because Geo works only with itself. That makes Geo teams literally the most expensive teams to play. And adding some essential Geo 5* to a standard banner is a recipe for disaster as standard 5* are virtually impossible to get. It took me 2 years of playing every day to get a single copy of Diluc and that can be considered lucky. To clarify on "you can't swap them with anything else": once you start swapping Geo characters for some other elements, there's no point using Geo characters in this team anymore, just swap them with some unit that can actually utilise all the reactions and elements you're apllying. 3. Geo lacks any identity or too much of it's characters don't follow it at all. You can take half of the Geo characters, remove their element completely and nothing will change. They have the same utility, effectivness and gameplay. It's not okay. 4. Geo sucks agains shields, but doesn't want any other elements in it's teams. The only one that half decent is Itto and you can't judge the entire element on a single unit. And various elemental shields are a permanent stay in abyss. At this point Geo is unironically a Phys recolour. IMHO, Geo dmg should be replaced with Phys and both those elements be "combined". They're working exactly the same anyway, do the same exact job in the same exact way and even have identical buffs. It just Phys is not an "official" element.
TFW physical teams use more elemental reactions than Geo 😅 I agree with all your points. Going for the mono geo route instead of reworking geo reactions was a huge mistake by mhy. It's just a boring element with no particular upside and only downsides
If new characters get added to the standard banner, then they should add the ability to select a character and make it like a custom limited character banner. Having more characters in the standard banner may make it worse 'cause it'll be even more random
Now that you mention it... Albedo totally feels like a standard banner 5* character. I don't think people would be mad if Albedo got into the Standard Banner.
I want that sword for Kazuha so bad, but then I remember back on Homa's banner how I was trying to get Wavebreaker's Fin and kept getting only Sacrificial Swords over and over. I got Homa, 2 R5 Sac Swords, and no 4 star polearm. I'm glad I risked it on a banner I could use both weapons, not gonna lie, because it was painful.
I personally run Itto in Abyss without Albedo and he does fine. He's not broken like other meta units are, but he does the job without trouble. That said, I do have Redhorn and I'm sure that without it I wouldn't be able to 36 star. I do run Zhongli with him, but I used to run Geo traveler in his place before I pulled Zhongli and I could make it work, even though I had to struggle a lot and Traveller's balls are SO annoying. So no, you don't NEED Albedo specifically, but I agree that you still NEED some combination of other 5* resources to make it work. The whole Geo situation is sad, really.
You need Albedo to have a Geo meta team, not to make Itto "work". Almost everything "works" technically with the right investment. It's just his maximum ceiling comp like Ayaka's is Shenhe/Kazuha.
I 36 starred the abyss yesterday with itto on r1 serpent spine, zhongli, c1 gorou, and fischl. No albedo. it was definitely doable, just not the easiest thing ever lol
I would rather have a neutral element like geo be the worst element in game than some element that's reaction based ...as it will drag the whole reaction experience down with it
Albedo makes sense. His consts are moreso for either niche support or just boosting his lackluster burst dmg. However, Eula's constellations are way too strong for a standard banner character. Her C6 is too insane of a damage jumpvfor any standard banner character if she is added. Imo she is the least likely to be added to standard. Idk about Klee either bc of the DEF reduction her C2 gives, and the big pyro dmg her C4 gives, but maybe she is still fine enough for standard banner. I don't remember Yoimiya's consts but I don't remember them being that super powerful. Maybe she is fine for standard as well.
yoimiya c6 is a 50% dmg increase over c0. not bad but not that good either. she basically deals similar damage to hu tao at early cons/non c6 builds now
triple crowned c2 yoimiya user here, i can tell you her cons are mostly terrible. c1 is limited by how unreliable her weak ass burst is (and thus why most choose to forgo it and run 4 shim), c4 is limited to co-op, and even c6 is a two-edged sword cuz the extra arrow fucks up vape/melt patterns by offseting them (aka you vape n2 and n4 instead of vaping n3 and n5) c2 is nice bcuz it's a solid 25% pyro dmg bonus which beats keqing's c6, but it's still worse than hu tao's passive (33%) and barely ahead of xingqiu's (20%) or ayaka's (18%)
@@neo.3 c6 isnt a double edged sword tho. her c6 is still a strict damage increase by around 20% in vape teams. the only thing it fucks up is her nuke melt showcases which is still possible, you just have to get lucky
C0 Klee Mono Pyro sheets ballpark of Childe and Ayato Vape (yes Childe sheets poorly compared to practice) and they're all the same team interchanging Klee/Childe/Ayato. C2 Klee from standard would be ridiculous
Everyone is talking about Eula C6, but Klee C2 (and to a much lesser extent C4) would be pretty nice and way more reasonable to reach. Too bad that you need to play Klee to take advantage of them.
14:13 this is exactly why I never got into pulling for or building geo characters. To have the best geo team you basically need itto gorou albedo ZL. That’s 3 different geo 5*’s that have little to no use outside of a geo team, apart from maybe ZL in melt ganyu. Albedo CAN be used as a fill slot in some teams, but is never the option. Itto should never be ran outside of a geo team. I’d much rather pull for a 5* like venti, kazuha, raiden, kokomi, or yelan that can all fit in many teams. Or dps 5*’s like ayaka, ganyu, hu Tao, tartaglia, or ayato whose teams all revolve around universal supporting or off-field dps characters that many teams use. Geo is simply too much of an investment for me to get into. Not to mention the geo domain is very resin inefficient if you don’t have kokomi, and you need a good 4 piece set on both itto and albedo.
At the very least, I think getting Zhongli and Albedo might be worth it. Like you said, Zhongli is universal. Albedo with Zhongli makes any reaction pair super good. Then you really just need a Gorou and Noelle to fill in the rest of the team.
I tried getting Gorou. I got two 5 star characters and still do not have a Gorou after pulling on his banner. That is the problem with mono geo. They specifically need Gorou and without him mono geo is pretty scuffed. Now I have this Itto and c6 Noelle that are just permanently benched. I still find use for my Albedo and Zhongli though since they work together pretty well. Putting in something like a Xingqiu or Fischl just feels bad in an almost mono geo team since they could be used so much more effectively in a different team.
@@AzureDrag0n1 If you have Yun Jin she works well with Noelle, since she relies on normal attacks. Ning and geo traveler are also valid options, one buffing geo damage and the other crit%, and both are good batteries. Mono geo teams without Gorou will still do really solid damage, don't let his absence discourage you from playing certain characters if you like them.
I love albedo and I would love for him to be on standard banner! Both his C2 and C3 look really nice. Also with dendro Keqing is no longer copium and together with Tighnari, Jean, and Mona, they are actually nice units. I guess Qiqi is *fine* with pearl on taser. I refuse to acknowledge any other standard banner character. But yeah, I don't think Albedo would be too out of place in the current standard line-up, even if he'd probably be one of the better ones there.
My Eula blasts through all content in the game at C0. Although I would welcome getting free cons for Eula on a missed 50/50, she is way too strong for hoyo to ever let that happen. I also think Yoimiya is better than you give her credit for. The biggest thing Yoi has versus other characters is literally not having to move. Xingqui E, Raiden E, and any shield and she can literally melt any target in the game without losing time to dodging and repositioning. Just mash left click in the middle of the fight. Enemy teleports around? Who cares, Yoi just re-locks when they appear again. Something I also don't ever hear you talk much about Zajef is characters that counter content. The above example for Yoi is part of this sort of conversation. Eula also has this benefit that there is very little that actually counters a claymore, phys DPS with resistance to interruption (without mentioning her nuke). Whereas someone like Hu Tao is the opposite of this. Charge attack cancelling, repositioning, lots of dodging around. Hu Tao might have a higher ceiling, but comfort and ease of countering enemies means so much in Genshin when none of the content is hard enough to require a high damage ceiling. Just food for thought.
Yes this apply to people who already reached that ceiling, what about little timmy across the street is 20 seconds short from reaching 9 stars, he can't just left click faster as Yoi
It's kinda sad people actually want the Standard banner to be crap forever. Oh no, a F2P player could get C6 Eula after playing for 3 years! What he's gonna do? Clear a 36* Abyss even faster? OUTRAGEOUS!
that's not the problem (and if someone shits advantages for f2ps then he/she is a crap); the issue would be that people who want any specific permanent character would lose the guarantee of getting it in a rate-up, and would be destined to pure rng. We read people saying "c6 qiqi and still no Jean, 1.X player" every single day, so throwing some units into SB not only won't ensure you to get any of them, but also increases a lot the chances to get a specific one of them. What HYV should do is create new standard 5* units (exactly as they did with Tighnari) and rotate between 2 sets of them to rate up each patch, if we want a better SB.
@@puma2407 They did a Keqing banner before, so Standard characters could still have solo rate-ups every once in a while. The only reason they don't do it now is that nobody really wants cons for them, so they don't sell. If Eula was in the Standard banner, then people that got her to C3/C4 from losing 50/50 would be very willing to get the rest, since C6 is such an improvement. We saw the impact a strong but reachable constellation can do for revenue with Raiden.
Yeah, I kind of agree, I would think they should probably just add every unit and weapon ever to the standard banner once their debut patch is over It would be really weird to reach a point where you have every standard 50/50 lose unit at C6 like the whales but your f2p or low spenders because they didn't change the standard banner for 5years....
I don't mind if some older limited 5*s eventually become Standard 5*s, coz if they don't then at some point we'll be seeing Triple Banners and I'm not sure how I feel about that... Hell right now I've been personally lucky in not necessarily desiring to high hell BOTH characters in these Double Banners, but if for example sometime in the future Ei and Yae are the double banners, I'm not eating anything for that month.
@@Ben-vg6ox All new 4* are added to standard banner so it's not pointless at all. Also not everyone has every good weapon even after playing about 2 years. It's not like we're getting that many standard pulls anyway. Oh and remember you can only get amber/keaya and lisa from standard banner. So it's actually well balanced.
I wouldn't be mad at Eula, honestly. "Her C6 is insane", sure, at C6 Eula deals ~95% more damage than a C0 Eula. That IS a lot, but we now also have Tighnari in the standard banner whose C6 allows him to do a total of an extra ~75% damage (courtesy of KQM). The gap is not that wide, considering Eula is arguably harder to play and physical damage is still pretty fucking annoying to deal with. She doesn't have access to stuff like VV and Anemo units for grouping in general are going to be pretty meh for her, her rotations are a tad long, so I wouldn't say a requirement for being a standard unit is "this character's constellations have to suck", because a lot of very early characters constellations pretty fucking suck. Venti's are pretty meh until C4-C6, Klee's only very strong con is C2, and Albedo's constellations are mostly bad. Even looking at some character's kit from the good ol' days we find some weird stuff: Diluc's A1 is absolutely useless, Qiqi's constellations are atrocious, and Mona's are completely opposite to how she's only played as a sub DPS: these are just products of how hyv dealt with characters at the time and how haphazard their constellation making was. If any of the OG characters were to release now they'd have at least completely different constellations, maybe even kit differences. tl;dr: yea C6 Eula is good but so is C6 Tighnari. Having bad cons has no bearing on a character being in the standard banner or not, those that are there have bad cons by bad design, not by conscious design
doing mental gymnastics there comparing tighnari c6 to eula's cause even at his best his ult damage is no where near a geared c6 Eula. Eulas c6 is so busted you can switch out an atk sand for er and still do 1 mil damage in abyss. This eula batteries herself with 160%+ er
@@ryanryan4223 i mained both and i wouldn't mind having Eula and Yoi on BOTH standard and event banner. too bad Yoi's c6 is far pale compared with Eula's c6 which is hella busted
Yoi can, she has many pre - req team member for her to function comfortably. Not having zhongli/thoma or XQ/Yunjin/high cons Fischl for example. Eula can go with Kaeya and Lisa just fine. Its not a great decision to put her in standard. Maybe when they released a new phys hypercarry, unlikely to sell without the damage bait that Eula has.
Geo not only weak from meta perspective but mihoyo even made it look weak, why all geo constructs are paper thin and can be destroyed with any attack, why it even can't be placed at oceanid zone where is 3cm deep puddle. I like playing Albedo but he looks pathetic when flower gets destroyed 1 second after deployment bc mini boss fart consider to be strong enough attacks to destoy geo structers or it walks too heavy or too fat or some bs like this. Imagine if Oz or Gouba would dissapear like this too, why tf stuffed toy Barron Bunny is much more durable than literally rock pillar by geo archon? Just making geo structers feel like its made by rocks would be a reasoable solid geo buff.
i wish i saw the math for trying to snipe a specific 4 star from the weapon banner before i dumped half my sumeru savings on it trying to get 1 copy of fav sword (ar 57, still 0 fav swords) coping by thinking i am closer to getting an eventual homa or jade cutter 🤡
Ok but having albedo and yoimiya on the standard is something id want for real. I can finally have albedo for my noelle team (just need gorou) and more constellations for my wife yoimiya (idk if c6 yoimiya would be any better, bu5 at least its something)
Watch them put Unforged on that banner, seems like the pattern when it comes to weapons honestly...always 1 good weapon/ BiS for on banner character and then a useless weapon alongside it
@@Ben-vg6ox The 3.1 reruns are looking like they'll be Eula and Venti, so it's impossible they run the Unforged with Nilou's weapon unless they do something wild like a triple banner or some BS.
The only downside to adding characters on the standard is that these characters are unlikely to have rate ups in future making them even harder to pull just like Tighnari. Unless they make a separate permanent banner for them doesn't seem a good choice to add them in an already pile of characters and weapons.
personally would feel kind of cheated if they put albedo on standard since he’s the only character i’ve really whaled for for constellations. i know i’m definitely a minority in that regard but would still feel crappy
Same. People who whaled for any existing limited character do exist so I think it makes more sense for Hoyoverse to do what they did with Tighnari and only put new characters on standard so then people know he's going on there before they even pull.
I understand Mr Zajef's dislike of Eula and her playstyle, but I still think that it's exaggeration to say that she's standard-banner-tier, considering the strength of her constellations and her high damage, even outside of her burst
I mean in terms of all the 5* cryo options we have currently (outside of Qiqi ofc), Eula is the most reasonable one to choose as the standard tier character edit: to give context to the yt frogs, i remember watching this on stream and if my memory serves me correctly, he was trying to fo a "who could be a standard banner character" for EACH element, which isn't shown on this video. I guess they decided to take the others out of the video, but kept Eula in the video
It's not Eula herself that's the problem (a few gameplay caveats aside), but her lack of good higher-end teams imo. Physical is just very underexplored atm. Same applies to Xiao.
"Never EVER pull for a 4 star weapon on the weapon banner as a F2P player." B- but I still don't have Sacrificial Sword even after 520 days of playing. ;-; [Edit] Got Sac Sword while pulling for Nahida. The sword gave me more excitement than winning the 50/50 on 50 pity.
@@asoko1157 I'm pulling for Sac since I only have one Fav sword. I much prefer having Kazuha or Dendro Traveler on Fav than Iron Sting and Skyrider Sword respectively. My rotations are fine regardless if XQ procs the passive or not. I'll happily settle for another Favonius Sword if I get that instead though.
Having had C1 Klee since 1.0 (got early drops back to back and had no idea how wishing worked back then), if they added Klee to standard I'd be super happy. A chance to get C2 Klee when losing 50/50? That would be awesome, I wouldn't even be mad about losing 50/50 if that happened, considering that it's actually among the better C2 out there (no, of course, not on par with Raiden's, but still pretty damn good). Potentially getting some Albedo constellations would also be great, if I managed to get to C4, so that my double geo Xiao team would become that much stronger.
how about ningguang in a quickswap geo team? like, noelle/itto + gorou + ningguang (4pc noblesse oblige) + bennet ningguangs jade wall can grant bonus geo damage and her ultra costing 40 energy can make her good in a quick swap strategy
Pretty weird to include Eula in the Standard given how broken her constellations are. And honestly, even being a Physical DPS, Eula is still competitive and a meta-defying DPS.
@@bngwwy I mean if anyone loses their pity to xiao it wont feel like losing at all considering how good his story emphasis is and how stylish his design is (that mf has a whole freakin dev diary for him by Hoyo) ofc not from a cons or meta perspective
Even if the option to make another standard banner or include the very old limited chars into the current ones, mhy could still use the '2 months or more event banners' that streches over patches, with no featured 4 stars characters since thats one of the factors u re going to pull in an event banners. This one focuses more on limited old characters, but they have no seperate weapon banners. Why 2 months? Its usually what it takes for me to get to the guaranteed pity after losing 5050.
I wish I had albedo, of the 6 or 7 characters I dont have I want him and ayaka but I cant justify pulling albedo when other characters I want more were coming out. Currently I only really want dehya so maybe I'll pull albedo if he reruns soon.
@@CoolFairy111d I agree with you, but as long as people are able to solo abyss 12 with her and her C2 and C4 stay as they are, she's a fair permanent 5* and it would be ridiculous to get her in SB. And I don't even like her gameplay, she must be the last 5* I'd pull for tbh.
I don’t really care if Eula is added to the standard banner but people really do not like her huh. I understand the disdain for her playstyle but some of the things being said in the comments are pretty gross and exaggerated.
Bro legit just roasted my mains💀, like i get yoimiya's cons are terrible, i would much rather lose a 50/50 for yoi than qiqi, like my c0 rust yoi with xingqiu deals like 80k on like the 3rd hit and about 100k with the last hit, i don't think this much dmg from a level 80/80 yoi is bad, like at all, and the only reason i think eula would be added to the standard is because her cons are too good, like imagine getting a nuke by losing 50/50, i definitely wouldn't be mad
I'd love to have Eula on standard. My goal to get her C6 eventually will be made easier. Got her on her rerun twice in a multi and fell in love with her gameplay and obviously she's broken. Slowly but surely I'll get her C6. If not i hope mihoyo can do something along the line of "if you lose a 50/50 you get a shard of one element(corresponding to the element of character u lost 50/50 to) . A couple of shards of one element and u may unlock a con on a character of corresponding element" or something similar to make me get her C6 easier.
can someone explain to me how bloom works?? i mean, the only thing that matters is the EM on the person making the hyperbloom/burgeon, or the EM of the people creating the seed is also relevant??
Burgeon and hyperbloom are only affected by the EM and level of the character triggering the reaction, not creating the seed. Bloom is the one affected by the EM and level of who creates the seed.
Eula's constellations are too good to be on standard banner imo, although herself is not really a good unit to begin with, but when you have good constellations you'd get people willing to whale for her. (If anything, whale would much prefer 5 stars to have broken constellations. Why else do you think whale likes yae miko so much?) In hoyoverse's eyes she is a very profitable product, so they will probably put her in standard after like what, 10 years of running this game? Yeah, not impossible but very unlikely to happen in foreseeable future. Albedo however is perfect to be included in standard banner. He's a geo unit, which is the only element without standard 5 star. He's very f2p friendly. He also doesn't gain a lot from whaling (That's a nice way of me saying him having shit constellations and having no tailor made 5 star weapon). With all that combined making him not a very profitable product in hoyoverse's eyes, which makes him the one who's most likely to be the first limited 5 star character to be included in standard banner, if they ever decide to do that of course. But I doubt it, considering he actually has quite a high usage rate in spiral abyss despite being an early unit. In that regard, maybe hoyoverse still sees a lot of potential in him so they won't make him standard just yet. Klee is the one I'd put in standard banner after albedo. Although her first banner was record breaking, but that's only her first banner. Her reruns combined profit are way lower than her first banner. Like albedo, she also don't gain too much improvement from whaling. But profit wise, maybe hoyoverse still sees her as a very profitable unit since she's really popular (unlike albedo) after all.
I would disagree on two characters to be on the standard banner though: Yoimiya: She and Hu Tao competes on the anti-boss niche, with Yoimiya being the Anti-Air answer to bosses that Hu Tao struggles to hit. A very specific niche, but very good at it. Not to mention she is one of the most brain-dead boss killers available in the game. Eula: Highest Physical Damage Dealer with broken C6, and will never be defeated in the role.
Yoimiya is still one of the weakest 5star limited units to date which is why if there has to be a limited 5star going to the standard banner I would bet that's it would be her but Eula really is just unfairly strong at C6
@@Ben-vg6ox Yoimiya is NOT the weakest 5* limited character, when freaking Klee and Albedo exists. Yoimiya's damage is competitive enough in a single target niche that only Hu Tao beats her, and Yoimiya is one of the better options than Hu Tao against flying bosses like Thunder Manifestation and Goiden Wolf Lord to the point they are a joke. Klee's niche is a C4 pyro support buffer, which is expensive to get, while Albedo's Geo ER niche can easily be replaced by the less efficient Geo MC, who trades some ER and raw damage for a Geo Cage (which synergizes with Zhongli) and 10% CR.
I dont get this argument that Albedo is necessary for a itto geo team, cant we replace him with Bennett for that dmg buff? That's what I did with my geo team
I do have a question: which anemo unit should i have for Kuki Hyperbloom team I also wanna know the best hydro unit as well. SCRAP THAT just tell me the best Kuki Shinobu team pls
Me, a Ningguang main: Well, that's just rude how you named every single Geo character besides Yunjin (but she's rarely used in Geo teams) and Ning as a good unit.
She's not synergistic with mono geo in a lot of ways, he also didn't mention geo MC which has more synergy. Ninguang doesn't have support roles outside geo DMG increase with her screen and realistically, to clear with her teams, you run into the issue of pulling a lot of expensive supports to buff her and a lot of resin
The early units kind of just had bad cons...except Klee maybe .... Childes cons are pretty bad Zhonglis cons kinda do nothing except QoL C1 Zhongli is arguable a nerf because geo suck ... Ganyus cons are kinda bad except C6.... Xiao's constellations....bruh....
