These Actual Rates are Actually Butter: Finding the Right Actual Rates For You 

This man got them rates that make rates with they were rates

Super crispy!!! Loved it man. We need to go hit that joint again! Saw some new lines in this video!🔥🔥🦄🦄🦄🦄

I’ve been flying 5” freestyle for about 2 months now and haven’t figured out the right rates yet. By far you have some of the best advice for trial and error on rates and I appreciate it greatly.

Thanks for giving us an updated video & sharing your process behind this Kevin :)

Thanks for the very clear explanation!

Thank you very much! Excellent Drone FPV rates Class!

Good tips man. I really appreciate this kind of content.

I have been using actual rates since they came out, LOVE IT!!

Crazy good flying at the end wow 😮 🙌🏽🙌🏽

I remember your first video on rates.. At first I was like this guy is a madman, now I love it. A much prefer actual rates now. I've always appreciated your work. Still loving your frames too

Great video Stingy! Best explanation video of actual rates yet!

AWESOME! Thanks for this video! Niccce ripping!

Great way to dial actual rates, thanks. I was flying 80, 720, 0.37 for freestyle, playing back my videos it seems I'm still doing more corrections than I thought. I'm going to try your method, but first I'll try your rates 👍

That last run was fire! 🔥🍻

Super interesting, Thanks !!! and what a pilot !!!

Thank's Stingy !..I followed your ACTUAL rates tutorial and it gave me a much beter understanding and locked the quad in ...had to modyfiy them just a litle bit because im a "hybrid" pincher and the expo was a little to much but I'm about wrere i wanted it to be maybe even turn down center stick sensityvity a bit anyways its a great tutorial bro!.. helped a bunch! Thanks a lot ! 🔥

I use to shy from high expo(elbow rates phobia), u really opened up my eyes

Interesting way of determining center stick rates. I've been using Actual Rates for a while. I would have never thought to keep the rates linear to figure out the center sensitivity then add the max rate later. Then adjust the expo to how early or late in the curve you want to increase the movement. Every time I go out, I evaluate if I need to make any tweaks. It's the low end I still adjust so I can move between trees without making huge shifts.

Best vid for rates i have seen to date thank you so much❤

Great explanation Sting. This helped brother 👊🏻👊🏻

Iv been flying for over 5 years, and never done pid tuning or rates. It's actually easier to learn Thermal dynamics or Nuclear fusion..but I do appreciate this video. 😉👊🏾

Great video!

dude im so happy you made a new one i got alot from the one you made years ago thx brothaaaa

Awsome as always 👌

I always feel like im flying pretty good. And then I watch this guy!

New to pid tuning, great explanation learned a lot from ur vid thanks for posting…

Well I would tell you what Im running, but after learning what I did here...... Ummm Ill get back to you :) thanks for the amazing info!

Dude! I just used these as a baseline in liftoff and tweaked it from there. I’m still new and I just got like 10% better no lie. Will try these on the quad tomorrow! Thanks so much! -also your newest subscriber

I really enjoyed hanging out with you Stingy, will go give this actual rates business a try :] Thanks for being you, God bless brother.

Perfect smoothy Two Thumbs

I didn't understand center stick sensitivity until this video. Mine was set to 200, which might be why my flying seems a little twitchy, even when just cruising around. I'm going to give these rates a shot and see how they work. I can't wait to get out and test them. Thanks for the video

I'm still faIrly new and trying rates out but lately, the last 3 or 4 quads I've built I've set up the same rates that I think are CLOSE to where I'll end up. These give me the most speed while maintaining control. I did 3 different "tests" to help me come up with these numbers. First I determined center sensitivity and I determined that by cruising at a decent speed and maintaining control and being able to stay on track of a "flowy line" without going to full deflection. Then to determine max I hovered 3-4ft off the ground and wanted to be able to chop throttle and flip or roll in any direction and stop on time to raise the throttle to return to hover without too much correction or bouncing off the ground. As for Expo, I went with a scientific approach where 3 is my lucky number and liked the first expo I set/tried and dammit I can use all the luck I can get! All in all, it turned out to be a comfortable transition for my style. Sorry for the long post that probably runs longer than the vid but you asked for my rates man! I may try and even out pitch and yaw with roll but for some reason I like the different max like this. I fly "Actual" rates and here they are: Center Max Expo Roll 90 980 0.33 Pitch 90 880 0.33 Yaw 90 780 0.03 Thanks for all the amazing vids you post. I really enjoy your style of videos and you're one helluva pilot!

i watched this again! verry informative as well! isnt it past time for you and the cricket to resume the game of KWAD?? i miss that alot!

Flew 4 packs in front yard yesterday. First packs flown in aggression in like a year. Kinda like riding a bike but I can see where I could change the tune a bit.

Thx a lot 🙏

thanks, man

Tidwell set me up with actual rates on one of my quads but im still running beta flight on my other. And there not set to match. I'm still trying to figure out which one I like better. I'm hoping one day I'll get a chance to rip a few packs with you and or phantom. Fingers crossed. I have gotten to fly with bot grinder and Steele a little while back which was cool af . But I've always been drawn to your style of piloting.

Finally someone has realized it :) I fly them for 2 years in actual and no one believed me its better.

Man you subject separation from your camera lens is crazy nice almost like you are in front of a green screen and a blurred background was put in.

After matching actual rate to bf rates so they feel the same do you see any advantages or is it now just the same feel as bf man. As always great vid man

Great vid man. So many sweet freestyle moves throughout - I don't know how you stopped and hit reverse so perfectly at the end - I thought for sure you were going through that glass 😎

Hiya, have been flying with stock betaflight rates for years, built many quads and wanted to keep the same for all. Felt like a change, bit more snappy-ness. So used your rates on all my quads, yet to test fly. All except yaw, lowered to 600 RPS. That's only difference. Will let you know how I go.

Nice Video, also use Actual Rates 10 670 0.01 on all Axis feels Nice and not much delayd🤟.

Hi! Great video, Thanks! Q: How do you change your rates out in the field? Did you have a laptop with you or are you able to change those in RM TX16S RC?

Actual ratesa are great. However i fly them at 10 center 880 max and 0.3 expo. that gives it a very nice curve imo

The miata 😻

The question about how much expo is always a thing in discussions with my FPV friends. And imho the screenshot at 1:10 of your rates settings could say very much, but unfortunately looses a lot of ability of showing your general concept of setting up expo. When I first setup a new quad, I take a first flight and adjust my desired rotations per second. This may be a bit different on every quad because of geometry or size. To ensure I then always have the same feeling of expo, I resize the "Rates Preview" curve so that is has the shape of a square. If it has the size of a square I can visually compare the shape of the curve with the shapes of curves of other setups and can directly get a pretty presize picture of how the expo of this setup will feel. Just by taking a look at the curve. If the curve iamge is stretched in any way, it get's really difficult to assume the feel of the expo curve, expessially if you want to imagine how much expo you will feel at a given gas point. OK, it's also possible to get an impression about the expo curve if all grafics of curves have differnt scales, but it's much easier to get a direct feeling about the expo behavier if they are all in the same scale. Imho. the size relation x/y should absolutely be fixed for this graph in Betaflight, so you may change it's size, but not it's size relations. In your next videos, if you show this curve, could you please ensure you have it scaled up like a square? I would really thank you very much. BTW: Great video ;-)

60/900/0.62 all axis . . I decided it's better to have a ton of center than rc smoothing to avoid latency. Took me forever to come from ~120 center to down here.

interesting, my rates are quite different degrees is same, 900 but i settled o 90 cenntre ad 0.15 expo. gonna try slightly more centre and more expo. i love my cruising around feel but do find that sometimes more agressive corrections ca sometimes get jerky

So I haven't flown in about 3-4 years now. Recently got a DJI HD setup and built some new 5"/6" quads. So BF changed how rates are now? I'm guessing I just need to use that calculator to figure new settings like my old ones? I think I was at 1183 with 0.73 expo. But I do plan on adjusting them more tighter to my flying now and take a bit more seriously in setting them.

If you don't fly LOS at all (like for me only for hand-catch) then I see no point in doing that test before FPV test... If the rates are way off to my liking then I still will be able somewhat manage to bring my quad back safely in FPV, rather then LOS where I feel is more risk. Other than that, great video. Thanks Stingy!

Watching this video just reminded me when i was learning to fly way back then i used your rates ... Still flying them today i never played with rates i learned yours and now thats all i use

Hi, What module and radio link were you using in the radio?

400 Centre 1000 Max 27 Expo. I like it snappy as fook :)

Oh bro you need to add visuals with this.

How are you changing your rates in the field like that without hooking it up to betaflight?

how did it detach so easy with that light tap?

Where do you put all your gear in your Honda fit? Mine takes up my backseat, but was looking for a better solution without everything bumbling around in the trunk.

Kevinnnn!!!!

So I have a caddxfpv camera will any fat shark fpv googles work?

do you get low battery warnings in the osd every time you punch out on the throttle. im new to fpv and running the 03 air unit on a 5 inch rotor riot build skyliner mk3. t-motor f7 hd 55esc.

Do you use different rates for different kinds of flying?

Thanks for this; I loved your last video about rates and it helped my flying; then I got away from fpv for a long time. I'm starting back into it (really loving the cinewhoop oneshots and I want to learn that process!), so I'm back watching videos. :-) Questions: what camera angle are you running here? If you lower the camera angle for slow indoor cinematic flights, should you change rates as well? If so, what rates would you change? Thanks!

Hi, do you use any expo on your radio mixers? Cause it will multiply your actual rates when combined with FC rates, right?

Actual rates 150 560 11 I have tried more expo.. but having alot of expo feels like ur flying the sticks and drone under water. So super slow and not responsive.. hard to change directions fast.. damn respect for people that can ride with those expo. The quad feels dead with expo 🙈

"It's all just gee whiz number stuff" 😂

High quality vigeo as always, Stingy! These arent actual rates but Kiss rates because thats exclusively what I fly. 2.11 2.11 1.65

We need a dji action 2 camera settings video!! Thank you

i really prefer the very simple curve of Raceflight rates in Betaflight, i use 720 max, and varying amounts of exponential, no Acro+. all the other configurations use some strange busted idea of what an "exponential" curve is. a true exponential curve is one that has a straight line derivitave. none of the other configs do that, which i think the logic behind it is most pilots prefer a steeper curve.

I like, (220 680 .54) for every size drone.

I’m flying stock old Betaflight rates still 😆🤷‍♂️🤦‍♂️

camera angle?

Well I learned something.... never knew center literally meant what your rates are at when the stick is centered... I'm at 30 900 60. (750 for yaw) whoops and cine are max rate of 720 all axis

immediately switch to "Actual Rates" and follow your video.

Why exactly change if it is just the exact equivalent of the betaflight rates? If it's literally the exact same, what's the point? It's kind of like switching from all pink s3 props to all green s3 props 😂 I understand the video topic though of course to help us understand them better!

Stingerswarm, ive got a mail from you that i won something. Did not know that we could win a dji 3 pro🤷‍♂️. Ive just bought a dji mini 3 pro last week. So maby you can give it to some 1 who needs it more then me! Thanks alot! Grz C

Very similar to yours. 135,900, .70

nice im at 70 x 900 x .2

You might find it funny but I've played about 400 hours worth of Liftoff the last year and a half...so when I want to change my rates depending on my mood, then I'll just play around with them on there until I like it....more or less feels the same in real life with my 5 incher. I just stole Mr. Steele's rates and made them a bit twitchier this time around.

When your drone turns and rolls slower than a brick at 100 100 lol.

200/800/0 is what I've run for the past year.

I run actual on 150 centre,667 rate and .80 expo. Its the stupid propwash that gets me

yike 1100.. 670 here... actual 70, 670, .55

70/670 or 70/800

I fly stock pids never touch them

I started by collecting a bunch of pilot rates to get a feel for where those lie. Eventually I found a set of them I liked. Occasionally I check rates of pilot styles I like on RU-vid. I’ll try those rates, and if they feel too twitchy, I’ll calculate a midpoint between the two. At the moment they’re 1.4, .66, .21. (Yaw at 1.2), which is about 825dps. I’ll have to try it by feel sometime.

When you said “stinger drone” I thought about how the police could use drones this agile to help with shooter situations. Non lethal flash bang, lethal if needed. With everything going on lately, may be a decent defensive measure and employ more drone pilots. Imagine getting swarmed by three drones like that. AI locks on if they don’t surrender. Situation diffused with out endangering more lives. I feel like this is totally doable

Your quad sounds like a 5 year old boy on his first rollercoaster.. 'whoaaa whoa whoa ehoaaaa' 😂🤙

Iff you want real liniear why using superrate? Just put it on 0. My rates are 145/0/0.05 that is liniear!

420º/sec linear, LOL.

most fpv drones today come very well tuned and don't need in depth screwing with as was the case in the past.

10, 1000, 0. Try ‘em.

I got a message from you too message you on telegram that I won a a DJI mini 3 is this correct

Great video!