These Are Canapes, Alfred | Downton Abbey | Season 3 

And as it turned out, he was right, because the guy Edith ended up marrying was SO much better!

Yeah but he could have been more polite to ms pattmore's cooking

He's also the newest member of the staff.

"she's young, she's not bad looking" it's funny to think of servants judging the appearance of their bosses...though i guess it's universal human nature

Wasn’t he meant to be a foodie though? But if a plot hole

@@nathanlatham5651 not in the beginning - that was much later

I'm on his side though.

Gold!!! 😅🤣🤣🤣

and the salami...with crackers!

This meal must’ve changed his life

I kinda get it. I'm actually a Hemmer at Lululemon, but I don't really care much about being fashionable unless it's a special occasion. Comfort and practicality over appearance, just like Alfred and his cheese.

I've watched Marco Pierre White enough to know that he prefers good pub food over a ritzy restaurant any day.

yes but she waited years and had to give up her baby for a year or so before arranging for it to live in her home.

Chana Berlove Yes but still in the end Edith won the jackpot she got her cake and she got to eat it too. Even outranking everyone in her family is a nice one too.

@@P3891 Quite a come-up from being jilted at the altar by a broken down old croc! 😂😂😂😂😂 Alfred called it perfectly. Glad Mrs. Hughes spoke up to Mr. Carson.

@@chanaberlove8720 as the saying goes, it had to get worse before it got better.

Good eye.

He is shagging her in real life. Lucky lad.

He can never say no to Mrs. Huges 😂

I love her. She's the Greek chorus who tells it like it is.

Never 🤣🤣🤣

their relationship was always so odd. teamed up to be arseholes but still took jabs at each other at any chance

Well it isn't like he can get married himself.

O'Brian missed out on an excellent opportunity for a jab at Thomas here, though. She must have been really distraught, to not hit him right back with a remark about *his* chances of ever getting married. Those two...😆

Well he was gonna regret it . She was willing to go a step further than him

To be honest, I would bless that broken down old crock if I got to eat that dinner as a servant in the beginning of the 20th century...

Me.

Oh man I hate to admit but that's me too

ha..I would have both..

Like me ! :-D

Me

That's how it happened in Versailles too. The King would eat, then his guests, then the servants would eat the leftovers and the rest was given to the poor. It gives you an idea of the amount of food prepared if there was still enough leftovers for the poor after all these people ate before them!

I think it was poor writing for Alfred to be the one to make this comment. He has already shown an interest in food at this point.

I think it was just ignorance and people grow.

Good point.

I think this was the turning point, we just didn't get to see it.

On one Downton fan page that I belong to, I heard another fan suggest Alfred's allegiance to Lady Edith. He didn't want to enjoy the treats after she'd just been jilted.

And the look on her face when he says it!

Patmore is like "seriously😦"

Right?!

this is before he gets into being a foodie. He has NEVER come across or been exposed to food like this before.

@@cute_canadian_redhead6747 He had already told them he wanted to be a chef.

yeah, me too. It didn't make sense to the story

@Angelwing Nipple Touching story.. and who cares? Alfred was not 5 years old. Even if he didn’t know what the food was, or didn’t like it, as someone aspiring to be a chef, he should have shown some interest. It’s really amazing the nonsense people will post just to avoid having to accept that the writers screwed up. They’re called continuity errors; almost all TV shows have them, especially those that are on for years. Downton had several, large and small.

That's true. While he loved all three of them, Mary was the one he loved like his own.

I LOVE that he’s biased! If he loved all three of them equally, that would be nice. But it wouldn’t make him nearly as interesting.

Yep, he had a weakness for Mary. I liked that about him. It makes his character more realistic. Surely you can't LIKE everyone.

makes him realistic

@@teenelf "Even a butler has his favourites, my lady."

Then planned his doom

Diamondelle84 lmao

Thomas was never one to waste an opportunity to crush someone's spirit.

A lot of upstairs food in this time period was pretty gross (they liked putting things in gelatin). But this particular selection of food does look tasty.

Yeah. I'd be like, can't we have an aborted wedding every week?

Teddy Walsh. If I were

That's mean, but... Yeah, I agree

Most servants got leftovers anyways

Also Carson chastising him for being a footman insulting a gentleman. I think Carson's adherence to social protocol and how much he cherishes being a servant is one of those little things that shows how the feudal system lasted so long with relatively little crisis

Ohh good grief... Karien. Most of us don't need to genuflect on what happened to Edith... She WAS jilted and it was a shame for her and the house. Alfred surmised it best.

In interviews, the actors said that some of the food smelled disgusting after spending hours out under the hot lights. Alfred is probably right to want some cheese. 😀

Not really since by the time Alfred showed an interest in cooking it had been at-least a year since this scene so it’s not unlikely that he changed his mind.

I know it seems odd but if you’re a servant who just broke down decorations for a wedding reception with in hours I think a more substantial meal would be in order than canapés.

Why isn’t it possible that Mrs. Patmore said “No. There’s no cheese!” So Alfred tasted the fine meal she had prepared and loved it, sparking his interest in learning how it was prepared and evolving into his desire to become a chef? It’s called imagination, folks. Every show doesn’t have to spoon feed the backstory to you like quivering aspic on an Odiot silver spoon......

There was actually a scene before this that he expressed an interest in food, that's what made this confusing.

This is a large continuity error, but not the biggest in the series. That would be Bates telling Mrs. Hughes he hadn’t been in London since his mother’s death. We know he went back to London with Vera, and had been back multiple times leading up to her death. Not to mention all the times he would have accompanied Robert when he attended the House of Lords.

Hi, thank you for watching our channel. This scene might be funny, but it is a consequence of the tragical wedding day of Lady Edith.

+Downton Abbey US Ok and now you're my favourite you tuber. Downton is the best show ever.

Downton 654 Because there wasn't any cheese.

@@John-Adams lmao

The magic is really in "peasant food" made good. Delicious but affordable to the masses. In the big Chinese cities people often splurge on seasonal treats or occasional fancy dinners but even the very rich prefer the (less than) $10 breakfast as much as the lesser-paid migrant workers on most days.

... especially the Season 1 episode with a Link concealing the man who observed dead Pancuk being carried back to his room.

I know the irony

I believe the quote you're looking for is, "Any groom, any June."

@@NotMykl Actually I've never heard of that one, but the meaning is similar of course. "She chased him till he caught her," is the funny classic I remember. The female of our species is VERY adept at getting herself caught by the male she prefers. The guy doesn't have much say in the matter, if he's smart. 😂

Happybidr Carson is only ever I interested in sticking up for Mary. He even developed hostility for Matthew (who was actually the heir to Grantham) because of Mary. But since it's Edith who was jilted he couldn't care less. Plus the real blame for the disaster lies with Violet and Robert. Violet brought sir Anthony back into Edith's life and Robert disapproved of the match and the family should have persuaded them to give up the wedding before they got to the altar.

Happybidr To be fair once they show Alfred show in interest in cooking at least one year had passed which is reasonable for him to change his mind

Because people can change.

Because he wants hearty food, not "Pickity bits!"

They're not sitting with the master of the house! These people are all servants.

@@Furienna Yes, I've seen several episodes now. I understand why I was misunderstanding this scene.

no, they're supporting her because she is from the house and Sir Anthony isn't. besides, what on earth would they know about how things went on between the two? they only saw a wedding organised then cancelled.

In that era, an upper-class girl who did not make a good match by the time she was 21years old was considered an old maid. Edith was nearing or had passed that mark. The Dowager opposed the match; but Robert (Edith's father) was keen for his daughter to marry a well-off man. Sir Anthony was Baronet as opposed to Robert being an earl (count). But as an unmarried woman, Edith would have had to be supported from the funds of Downton. And, she would have been severely restricted socially, as her sisters were already married.*** Robert was probably considering that Sir Anthony might not live that much longer and by marrying him, Edith would have been financially secure with- or without children. I have often wondered, as I watched Downton Abbey; how much older Robert's father was from Violet (the Dowager) Robert and his sister had already been born when Violet accompanied her husband to Russia. ***Sometimes a pair of unmarried …… sisters or cousins were invited to big events for the aristocracy. However, they were not invited to the many house parties with others of their social class. House parties were for couples. A "respectable" unmarried woman, who was not "fair game" (like the some assumed that the servants would be) would have been considered a "downer" or a "ball/chain" at such an (often a "swinging") event. During the Edwardian era; it was common for Edward vii to be with one of his many mistresses at these week-long parties. Other couples often, discreetly, had affairs with their special "other" during these events. [Edward vii, preferred to have married lovers -- Then they had as much to loose as him if they were found out]