I love how Mrs. Patmore hugged Daisy - they both suffered losses during the war, and even though Daisy was pushed into a marriage she didn't want, she gained a father's love in the end.
@@alondralabute2310She loved him . Its clear that's why she resisted her second marriage . she deserved better . Her second husband has the signs of a wife beater
Really? Andy? I don't see that. He seems like a very nice guy. He seemed to be a bit frustrated by Mr. Mason always being around but that's understandable, he wants to be alone with Daisy sometimes. Reminds me of a situation on the show "The Waltons" if you're at all familiar with that show, it was an American drama set during the Great Depression in Virginia and ran through the 70's. The eldest daughter Mary Ellen had married but her husband Kurt had no family. She had a bit family who visited... all the time! Kurt wanted time alone with her but they were always coming around. But his mother in law who'd had the same problem when she married suggested he buy this plant and when the family came around, if that plant was in view they were to leave them alone! It worked lol. Maybe Daisy and Andy need a plant. Problem is, it's his farm lol.
@@alondralabute2310Andy Is horrible. His jealousy towards Daisy and any other male character is telling . He thought Daisy was cheating on him at one point Mr Mason just wants Daisy to be happy . He doesn't object to her remarriage . He encourages her to marry again . I don't see Henry being offended by Mary visting Matthew's grave for example
I just noticed that as soon as the clock chimed Matthew regains slight feeling, almost as if the wounds and horrors of his and many other soldiers can finally begin to heal whether they be seen or unseen after such a long and terrible war. Such great writing.
@@robertandhollyscorpiofan2697 No if you remember after the moment of silence and the clock stopped chiming Matthew stopped Bates because he "thought I felt something in my legs."He feels it again later.
@@samprimera5545 re-read the original comment, which says, DURING the clock chiming. That wasn’t Matthew getting feeling, that was his soldier training. My comment stands.
I will never get over how the moment of silence during the 11: 00 chimes was so masterfully done. You can feel the reflection from each actor playing a character that lost someone or something during this war.
I was at London Heathrow once at 11AM on 11/11. It was so surreal when the loud and frantic bustling simply stopped and the airport lapsed into silence. Surely many of those present did not know of the hour's significance, yet everybody stopped and was silent.
Yes! One of the hallmarks of great acting is to watch the actor when they are still and silent. If they embody their character completely, in every moment, they are simply absorbing to watch!
The Great War ended, but the damage done was just beginning. It is the worst thing to happen to the West since the Black Plague and we still suffer from it every day.
"Whoever we find won't replace you." While I do not agree with all of Carson's values, he's a bit too Victorian for my taste. I will give him full credit for his lifelong loyalty and devotion to both Downton Abbey and the Crawley family.
@@eliotreader8220 Carson is more Victorian because the majority of his life was during Queen Victoria's reign. After all, Edward VII took the throne in 1901, and Carson was probably about 40-50 by that time.
And that's why we take the time on the 11th hour on the 11th day of the 11th month just to remember those we have lost and still losing God bless those souls 🙏 ❤
Daisy grew a lot and i think she underestimated how a small lie can affect someone. especially when he was on his death bed. what she did was kind, she just feels guilty and didnt like to lie. especially to someone she cared for. and she did care for him.
Yes. Daisy's connection with William was much stronger than she realized, too, because she felt it the moment William was badly injured on the battlefield (as Mary felt it the moment Matthew was injured in the same incident). You don't feel it like that unless you have a very strong connection to the person. I'm not sure Daisy ever did realize that, but I'm so glad that she eventually had that talk with William's father. Mr. Mason is a wise and good man who enabled her to understand that she did the right thing by marrying William.
This was a very touching episode indeed. Of course the 11th month, 11th day is what we now call Veteran's Day but it was first called Armistice Day. My grandmother always referred to it as such.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning We will remember them. 🇬🇧
O'Brien is thinking about her brother who suffered from shell-shock and her friend, mr. Lang... Jane, her husband... mrs Patmore, her nephew Archie... Daisy, William...
For all of Obrien's gossip, its telling that at the eventual trial she doesn't believe for a moment that Bates is a murderer, and is rather uncomfortable at the notion that her testimony might be used to convict him.
It was also the end of this way of life in Britain; for good or ill, nothing would be the same. That could also be said for the rest of Europe as well.
So every year on Nov 11th, we have a minute's silence in the UK to remember everyone who's ever fought or been affected by war. I only found out last week this isn't a universal practice, and my mind was blown...
Branson does react to it, with Sybil. He says he feels bad about the children being killed, and that he never expected the Bolsheviks would kill the kids. But that he still believes the era of Kings, Kaisers and Czars is over.
The dawn of a new age started not at the end of the war, but in the wake of the Treaty of Versailles. That's when things got ugly. It enabled the Nazis' rise. Japan and Italy had no excuses because they were on the winning side. However, Germany was perhaps punished too harshly.
Nonsence. Germans are just allways reluctant to face consequences of their actions. Look what happened to Hungary and yet there is noone claiming it is an excuse for their nationalism.
Instigation aside. The Treaty created the perfect environment for the Nazi party to flourish because it made the German people desperate enough to turn to a group like the Nazi party that harnessed their anger at how they were treated post-war and stoked it further. It got ugly cause the treaty was a product of the old way of thinking, which was petty and punitive. Despite the world having just gotten out of this new kind of war, few were bothered to think about the long-term effect enacting such measures would have. The more you learn about the key moves and people involved both pre and post-war the more horribly clear it becomes how easily avoidable a lot of it could have been, and had certain people given more thought the war might not have sparked off at all.
The ceasefire or armistice was signed on November 11 around 5 or 6 am, so not sure why he said the "ceasefire will end on the Morning of the 11th." This looks like the evening before the Armistice was agreed upon. I guess this historical mistake was exposition for the audience.
When he makes the announcement I think it is a little while before. Mrs Patmore says "why can't it start now?" makes me think this was a little while before November
@@sandywaddell4303 The ceasefire was signed around 5 am and there was a 6 hour lag to get the word out. So the war ended at 11 am on the same day, November 11th.
Sorry, I thought you were remarking on the difference between “the ceasefire will begin” (i.e., the war ends) and “the ceasefire will end” (i.e, hostilities would resume - which didn’t happen in this case, I know). I imagined that it was possible that telegrams reached people between the signing of the armistice and the time that it took effect. Perhaps that wasn’t actually possible; my mistake.
Why do I just think of the Carol Burnett Show where they did a spoof of Gone With The Wind and Vicki Lawrence's character "Sissy" says "I got good news! The war is over! Now for the bad news, there's a Yankee soldier coming up the walk and he's got a gun!"
That spoof of "GWTW" is one of the best comedy sketches ever done on TV. There was also that great line, "Thank you, Rat. I saw it in the window and I couldn't resisit it".
@@andrewbrendan1579 and giving Vicki’s character the famous “Frankly, my dear” line was just perfection as it seems as if Sissy had gotten sick of Starlett’s slapping.
"And remember, this is not the end of a war, it's the beginning of a new age... And the preparation for the next war, which will be far more amazing, we will make it 100 times more amazing and the scale, oh, it will be so great, make sure to be ready. See you all in a few years, cheers". The staff: "Wtf...?".
Why did you keep in the scene with P Gordon (the claimant to the Earldom with burns)? Although it's from the same episode it doesn't have anything to do with this video's topic of the end of the war being announced. It just adds a weird, unfitting interlude to these touching scenes. Other than that, great video as always.
@@donnapinson2763 He disappeared after they started looking into his claims more closely. They don't explicitly answer the question of whether or not he was an imposter or not, but it's subtly referenced in parts of the script that he was an imposter. I think it could have been a really powerful story if they properly executed it over a season arc perhaps, or after Matthew died, but alas, it was a one-episode bit of weirdness.
Its a neccessary display of the facr that for many a war doesnt end when the bullets stop lying. For many the enemy is shell shock PTSD psychlogical damage and a lifetime of needing care. SO its a good thing to show this. WW1 was the first war in which the importance that cae isnt just needed by the physically injured was widely recognised
@@acat1130 Him walking away is the sole reason why I personally think he wasn’t the real Patrick. He would have proven to the family he was who he said he was.
Ma quante e quante volte ancora dovrò chiedervi un traduttore?????? Vi seguo sempre....anche le repliche delle repliche su ogni canale sia trasmesso qui in Italia.....le ho provate tutte ma l inglese rimane l unica lingua .....È un torto per chi vi segue da ogni stato.
If memory serves me right-and please don't berate me if it doesnt-one thing I liked about this war storyline was the cousin.They left it ambivalent about whether he was indeed a member of their family. Downton was always good about knowing when to pull on the line and let it end.And when to let it linger.
@@user-fs5hr2oi7u it did turn out to be a hoax then.I just remember he was supposed to be a kinsmen of Robert's presumed dead on The Titanic.I didn't remember them resolving it.
Yes he was pretending to be a cousin.Therefore my word cousin.Sorry you took offense but Ive ALWAYS GOT to be told I'm wrong.I knew what I was talking about.
@@samprimera5545 You were right initially that it was deliberatly ambiguous. Nothing was ever proven. One explanation offered was that he was Peter Gordon pretending, but his original account (that he survived the Titanic with amnesia, lived in Canada, and regained his memory as a side affect of shock after a vicious shelling) was never categorically disproven. Notably, Mary never believed him, whilst Edith is convinced he was telling the truth. The others are unsure, as P. Gordon leaves early. But whether this was to avoid being exposed as a fraud, or because he'd given up and realised they would never believe him, is left unanswered.
@@benlowe1701 They didn't answer it absolutely, but I believe he was a fraud. Among other things, one doesn't change speaking accent due to amnesia. Their cousin had a proper British accent, and he would still have had it after waking up with amnesia. Second, I remember in this episode that this man left suddenly as soon as Edith told him that the lawyers were going to investigate his story so that the Crawleys could be certain. I think he knew the formal investigation would discover his fraud, so he left before that happened. I'm not surprised that Edith believed him and even thought she recognized him, because she was lonely for love and had been in love with their cousin, so he used the power of suggestion on her.
@@AndyCutright Bates definitely did not kill Mr. Green. They found a woman that confessed to the crime, and Bates was nowhere near London at the time. But yes, keep believing your stupid nonsense, when you can't even get the names of the characters right.
@@flyboy152 You don't seem very happy, generally. It's a TV show. Why are you so upset about a typo and my own belief about which fictional character committed what fictional crime and harmed which other fictional characters? You're so upset you're calling folks names. Maybe you should get away from RU-vid more often.
@@AndyCutright Ahh, the morons defense. Post something stupid, then say it's just a TV show. Yes, DA is a TV show, but you're posting in the real world.
Golly, if they did not stand to show respect, then Carson would have plenty to say about. The men always stood when a woman entered as well. Old fashioned values at play here.
@@hextree He expected it, and he knew they had to out of respect, but Robert also wasn't the sort of person who treated his staff like they were lesser. There were many Lords and Lady's back then who would never go down to the kitchens or the staff quarters to deliver a message personally.
I love how they basically pretended the Spanish Flu didn't exist through all of 1918. With the amount of soldiers crawling through Downton, it would have been a hot spot of the pandemic. Instead...nothing. Classic and disappointing
There were 3 waves to hit England, first in spring 1918, the second and deadliest in winter 1918 and then again in 1919. They explicitly cover the flu hitting during the second wave where Lavina died. That was the most likely time it would have hit a country home like Downton.
Again, THE SOLDIERS guys, THE SOLDIERS! The Spanish flu became what it was after it went through the trenches in Europe during WWI. With all the soldiers literally LIVING in Downton during the war, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A HOT SPOT FOR THE PANDEMIC. Don't try to pull a quick one over me like that, I know what I'm saying.
@@dnstone1127 You do realise there are various dialects and accents in Britain, just as there are in any other country and any other language; and that especially within the upper-classes, and most definitely in a historic setting, such an accent would be most expected?
I don't know why the house master had to dress up in uniform he barely ever went to the front line and he had this audacity to host a ceremony for the war cease.
if you mean lord grantham with "house master", he may not have served in ww1 but acording to season 1 served in the wars in south africa along with bates
Lord Grantham was the Lord Lieutenant, a ceremonial position, but technically responsible for the army at home. It was entirely appropriate for him to be wearing a uniform in time of war.
Forgot that Carson was going to go with Mary: his Lordship vs Mary, Mary wins 🥲. My guess it was also cuz he worried Mary would need support/back up in the new household