These "Broken" Combos Don't Actually Work | Yu-Gi-Oh! 

I used to play flying fish in my deck and since the flavor text said it granted you 3 wishes I thought it was an actual effect. I always wished for something rediculous like giving it a million attack points or even just winning the duel entirely. We were in like 1st grade so none of us knew the rules and thought flying fish was the best card in the game.

The entire 7th grade schoolyard meta changed when we learned how Scrap iron scarecrow actually works

I actually remember that shien argument from back on the day. It's how I learned the difference between "negate activation" and "negate effect"

"When...You can..." *Cries in Peten the Dark Clown*

*team samuraix1 has left the chat*

"Dark Worlds don't trigger when discarded for a cost" *Laughs in Fabled*

Easy way to explain the timing. "If A, you can B", as long as the condition A happens, you can activate the effect B. "When A, you can B", A has to be the last thing happening in order to activate the effect B. If an event (chain or not) occurs which causes the condition A to not be the last thing happening, the effect B will miss the timing.

I'm surprised about that Scrap Iron Scarecrow one. of course, myself, an intellectual watched the 5D's anime, so It was quite obvious to me.

At the start I confused Scrap-iron as well, I think I eventually figured out you couldn't use it infinitely because it says to "Set" the card, and according to the rules, you cannot activate cards you've SET that turn

I thought that Giant Trunade returned itself to my hand so I could keep using it.

As a Trickstar player, my "too good to be true" combo is Trickstar Light Stage + being at 3 in 2020

I used to think babycerasaurus was “destroyed” any time it went to the grave from anywhere

When a card from your own archtype doesn't activate your archtypes effects

I knew how Scrap-Iron worked. I used it once, and my friend briefly read the text. 'That's busted' He thought one was infinite Didn't attack without some negate/destroy effects. Never told him. w i n

*GREAT SHOGUN SHEEN*

Them: Scrap Iron Scarecrow isn't hard once per turn Me: It seems the wisdom from rule book 1.0 has been long forgotten

I always thought the cards should be structured something like this Cost: discard 1 card Effect: destroy 1 face-up monster on the field Then for if or when cards you could have a line like Cannot be chained or activated when used/discarded as a cost

I used to use a card called Scroll of Bewitchment, an equip spell that changes the attribute of the equipped monster; to change my opponents strong monsters to Spell/Trap attribute LOL and make them unusable.

*Ah yes, the almighty negate from MST*

I didn't realize that "flip summon" was distinct from "flip," so I thought that golem sentry and those scarab cards were amazing back in the day.

LMAO saw the thumbnail and immediately had flashbacks to the first time i tried building my own six sams that wasn't netdecked

Wait, so you're telling me that my broken combo of "Set and pass" doesn't actually work??!! Day 326 of waiting for New Volcanic Support to arrive

What do you mean my combos with 35 garnets don't work? I can summon Flying Fortress SKY FIRE on turn 1!

I remember first playing yugioh and my buddy kept activating scrap iron scarecrow infinitely per turn and it was the bane of my existence. He used the scrap iron statue to negate multiple spells/traps too.....pain in the ass

Man I was cheated on my whole High school years with the Samurai player swarms

"Mst doesnt negate spells and traps.." Yeah found that out the hard way too. Good times good times....

I never had that issue with Scrap Iron Scarecrow, but to be fair I had seen the 5D's anime before getting the card, so it's very possible that that was the main reason I knew it rather than working out the mechanics by thinking about how all the rules worked.

""When...: you can" effects." Ah, yes... the entire reason Poison Draw Frog is unplayable trash.

It took me 10 years to realize that darkworlds don't work when discarded as a cost And I'm not proud of it

Scrap Iron Scarecrow was the most broken defense Trap at the beginning of my Yu-Gi-Oh! Adventures

Back when synchro monsters came out first, I thought you could Special Summon Stardust Dragon with it's own effect after summoning it with starlight road direct from the extra deck.

I remember the first locals I ever went to. I finished in second place. The kid who beat me used those flip-effect monsters to do it. Des Lacoda, swarm of locusts, et cetera. I didn't realize until months afterward that I should have won because he was using them wrong. We both thought their effects activated if they were flipped up from being attacked in battle, but since they don't say :FLIP:, they actually didn't, so he got a lot of effects off he shouldn't have. I can't be mad about it... we were both misinformed... but still. Kids not understanding how cards work sucks, especially back when I was young... there weren't many older players around to help judge us.

"MST doesn't negate?" Literally why i avoided whatever dueling book was called back in 2014/non scripted environments. I remember the first game i ever tried to play on the site.The guy played Infinite cards and legit thought he could draw his whole deck.

A Wild Monster Appears! I thought this card made the monster I Summoned unaffected by all other card effects, instead of just mine. If you wondering what I chose to summon, it was either Ultimate Conductor Tyranno or, the main target, Water Dragon Cluster to negate all of the opponent’s effects and reduce their ATK to 0. Also, me and friend used to think linking and co-linking were the same thing. We know better now.

i remember the whole scrap-iron scarecrow problem happening back in my middleschool, me and my friends simply just decided it would be dumb and op if you could activate it all the time, so we simply said, No

I got so mad when I found out you couldn't use one vampire familiar to summon another after the special summon from hand

when i started the game in my teens my english was much worse so i wasnt sure what "deficit" meant so with soul strike i thought my monster gained atk equal to different between both players lp and also another 4000 for some reason. so if opponent had 8000 my monster would gains 6000+4000=10000 atk from 1 trap card

Since I'd never actually read the card, I thought Armageddon Knight could send any monster

For me the broken combo was, using "Traptrix Mantis" to target and set backrow, chain the same backrow and then instead of sending it to the gy. you add it back to the hand and set it again. with this you could infinitely loop something like reckless greed everyturn or some of your "hole" trap card. sad this doens not work.

tainted wisdom ftks on youtube with a ton of 1 ofs lol

Long while back, I was playing against a friend and searched Super Poly off of E hero blazeman whoops lmao

I haven't faced Shiens like that in a long time. Pretty sure I got screwed over back then.

I remember this as vividly as day. By Order of the Emperor + Any normal summoned monster with an activated effect. Draw your entire deck. By order of the emperor deserves a spot in Part 2

Fusion Tag, which in the OCG you can use it for contact fusions and in the TCG they decided you can’t.

A combination of playing the physical card game, playing the video games, and watching the anime can help you get a better feel of how the cards actually work, since certain rulings aren't always clear, such as infinite re-spawning Stardust Dragon with its effect only works if you have successfully Synchro Summoned it from the extra deck and you can constantly negate destruction effects(though that may be a video game thing), but if it gets banished and special summoned from being banished even though successfully special summoned from the extra deck before it got banished or it got destroyed in battle and brought back by Monster Reborn, you don't get that infinite re-spawn Stardust Dragon to constantly negate destruction effects, just a one time use because it was brought back from outside of the extra deck(again, could be a video game thing)

This was a really cool video! I hope there is a part two in the future. The idea of "When [condition]: You can [effect]" is really different in Yugioh than it is in Magic, the game I play most often. In Magic, those are called Triggered Abilities and (to oversimplify) they will always happen, regardless of what happens to the card. They always use "when," "whenever," or "at" to denote when they happen. It's interesting to see the contrast between games.

tour guide> special sangan> xyz detach> sangan effect, this one plagued me back in the day.

I had one that was interesting because it actually worked on YGO Pro for a while. I would play Qliphorts, and my tech was Cyber Valley, I would use Cyber Valley's second effect for drawing 2 which is "You can target 1 face-up monster you control and this card; banish both that target and this card, then draw 2 cards." I thought it would work because Qli monsters are unaffected by monster effects of any monster with a lower level, so I figured it would leave the monster and Cyber Valley would turn into a less restricted Cardcar D.

You missed an timing interaction combo with a "face down Book of Moon, morphing jar's effect activation, effect veiler, book of taiyou, you'd first flip morphing jar face up with book of taiyou," They'd start the chain to jar's eff by using the opponent's eff veiler, you then chain the set book of moon to jar being face up to have jar go face down; veiler's eff miss's it's target timing on jar cuz - "the flip face down effect goes of first but the cost of veiler would state sending it to the grave cost for veiler's eff to go off". Jar's effects goes off after words cuz veiler effect does not have a face up card for a target.

My own version of this was Trap Eater. I always used to believe that since it didn't specify where it could be summoned from that I could summon it from anywhere. Hand, grave, banish pile, even my deck at one point. I also used to think I could just chain it to the activation of a trap card, like if my friends would flip Scrap-Iron Scarecrow on me. #TrapEaterNegates

Tributing Dupe Frog or using it for summoning material used to sound like an amazing combo before I learned it missed timing

I think most of these actions happen at the lower level, because it "doesn't say exactly what it does", like scrap iron or mst negate. Either the intrinsic rulings of the game hinder these 'combos' or a slight different wording on cards (negating effects vs negating activations or when vs if effects). One has to read very carefully and often inexperienced players do not even know that there exist a difference in these two card effects.

While normally you can’t use the same scrap-iron scarecrow multiple times in one turn it can be combined with other cards that let you activate traps the turn they are set to make it work like that. For example, Temple of the Kings allows you to activate 1 trap the turn you set it, because scrap-Iron scarecrow re-sets itself after activating you can then use it again in the same turn after it’s initial activation as long as you control Temple of the Kings.

When the zombie deck first came out I thought glow-up bloom can be banished any time therefore I ran needle bug nest

I remember when I was first starting out, I felt so proud that I came up with a combo featuring Stone Statue of the Aztecs, Ojama Trio, and Staunch Defender, the basic idea being to summon 3 ojama tokens onto my opponent's side of the field, and using staunch defender to force them to attack my stone statue for a total of 12000 points of damage to my opponent (since Stone Statue doubles all battle damage). And then I learned that Staunch Defender doesn't affect monsters in defense mode, I can't have it target a set monster, and that if my opponent has a monster on the field with more than 2000 attack points, then my Stone Statue dies without anything else needing to attack.

That Six Samurai Combo Actually Surprises Me I Too Thought For The Longest Time That Those Two Cards Would Work Great Together.

I thought Spell Striker could Special Summon itself from the graveyard. So I would tribute it multiple times with Cannon Soldier for game.

Spell Economics and Mausoleum of the Emperor. This combo is actually kind of funny to me, because this was actually taught to me back in the days of Duel Network. I was taught by a friend of mine on there that with Spell Economics on the Field, you can use Mausoleum to Normal Summon high leveled Monsters without Tributing without paying a single Life Point. Of course, lo and behold, a year or two later, I discover that Spell Economics only works on the Spell Card itself being activated, not the activation of an effect of a card already in play.

We still used scrap iron scarecrow properly in high school. The main contender was a deck we called 'flip flip'. The combo was stealth bird, Kaiser Coliseum and scrap iron scarecrow

Commenters don't understand broken combos.

As soon as I saw the Shiens come up I put my head down. How could they make such a perfect combo then just ruin it with one word? I was but a CHILD when they got me and was using Samurai.

This pre-format content its great m8.

You kind of blew my mind with that Six Samurai ruling, apparently I've been on the giving and receiving end of many cheated duels.

When u have kozmo strawman an use its pay 500lp effect to summon any kozmo that is banished, then chain strawmans own banish effect to summon from hand. That the kozmo summoned by the first effect wouldnt b destroyed at the end phase bc strawman wasmt face up on the field anymore to resolve that effect. It was actually ruled this way for a few ycs'

I used to activate quick plays from the hand during my opponent’s turn. I only realized you couldn’t do this when Ebon High Magician got revealed and I said “Why would you want to detach a material to do something you already can”? Then I realized that you CANT.

When I was in middle school I ran a "Soul Absorbing Bone Tower" mill deck, and I used to try and say I could use "Patrician of Darkness" to force my opponent to target the Bone Tower for battle, but because Bone Tower can't be targeted for attacks when there's another Zombie on the field, I used to say it would just negate the attack.

i feel like ive been playing petin the dark clown wrong and my deck probably just doesnt work cause i dont actually know how missing the timing works and i found that on one online thing my plays just wouldnt work probably for that reason... so i may have effectively been cheating for years

Scrap Iron Scarecrow never confused me. Though that being said and jumping to a different card, i think the confusion that comes with Prisma stems from people using Future Fusion with Five-Headed Dragon. As the card does say 'send the fusion Materials listed on it', and Five-Headed says 5 Dragons So until Prisma effect was corrected, they were, by the card text, doing it correctly.

@Dzeeff there is this OP combo of Time Wizard effect so you can turn your Baby Dragon to Thousand Dragon, it’s pretty old school but not a lot of people know about it. You can also normal summon Flame Swordsman

Peten with synchro/xyz (well misstiming) made me cry

I remember when I finally understood miss timing... felt like a slap in the face when I learn that *EVERY Subterror Behemoth* monster can miss time. *Cries in Final Battle"

That small Gusto mention hit me right at home. Long ago, I used to do that and most of my opponents just went with it because they also thought it worked that way. Lmao!

Everyone knows that great shogun shien is an igknight card and that you summon next to durendal.

For the longest time, I thought that if I had no monsters left on the field, I could summon Dark Magician and declare a direct attack.

Me and my brother still laugh about how we thought that if you killed a gladiator beast in battle, you were still able to activate their effect to cycle into the deck and fetch another gladiator beast. My brother was able to win a majority of games because of the 2 gladiator beasts (we renamed them "god beasts") in his deck lmaoo

Honestly the main thing I always forget is that pendulums are spells and monsters. I remember making a post asking if the pendulum effect where...copernicus? Wouldn't be destroyed to negate effect damage if you use the effect of the triple D xyz monster to stop a monster from being destroyed.

this reminds me of zombie world preventing tributes while a spell called hazy pillar reduces tribute number so i can normal summon without tributing

especially on the minuscule font size many cards nowadays use, I would prefer the wording of Japanese text (pendulum onwards), which not only numbers effects with a circled number but seperates condition/cost and effect by being in their own sentence and a japanese sentence dot 。 especially considering the full-width nature is a lot more noticable than a colon/semicolon and stuff. also base conditions of a card that arent an effect like name conditions like on Cyber Harpie, or Archtype conditions like on Utopia Beyond (yes the Japanese version has an archtype condition), summoning conditions (e.g. ancient gear golem not being able to be special summoned), or Hard once per turn clauses, are before any effects and listed without a number, which makes it obvious that negationg effects doesnt negate these. also Hard once per turn conditions in the west are often written slightly differently depending which/how many of a cards effects they encompass, and often enough just buried in the card texts while in Japan it just says "This Card Name's ①③ Effects can only be activated once per turn" (and yes they dont actually write the card name, as that would just take too much space so they chose "this card name's" instead. also regarding rulings that may or may not be obvious maybe somehting like a clarification text like in Magic could be used in () marks to note it's just explaining a standard rule and not part of an effect

Commenting a year later. I know cards like scrap iron scare crow don’t spell out what you should know, but cards I’m happy that Konami went back and did spell it out are black whirlwind and return of the monarchs because so many people never understood the summon has to stick.

I was eliminated in the first round of my first yu-gi-oh tournament at a small card shop when my opponent unleashed his 3 Ameba on me. With no judge at the tournament, and his friends backing him up, they convinced everyone that Ameba's effect was to just swap control and inflict 2000 damage with no other cards needed so I was destroyed by his OP burn deck.

That Scrap-Iron Scarecrow one caught me off guard, since its common knowledge (And most people who used it probably knew this) you can't activate a Trap the same turn you set it and the card specifically mentions re-Setting it. I guess I only understood it because I first learned of the card in the Anime where its effect was clearly shown to be once a turn lol.

I didn't understand how most of Yu-Gi-Oh worked until I played the World Championship video games. Did plenty of things like activating trap cards immediately and discarding Dark Worlds with Raigeki Break. For Dark Worlds specifically, we figured the only reason they specified card effects is because they didn't want effects to activate if they're discarded at the end of the turn due to the hand size limit.

I'm so glad I'm not the only person who thought Dark world triggered from cost

I still remember in the GBA game using a MST to destroy a spell card, the CPU used a magic jammer to negate MST and I used a Dark Bribe to negate the MJ, only to see the spell card to activate anyway. At least I cleared half the cards in the field.

Soul charge with DDD Oracle king darc because the lp was the cost not the effect so it won't heal me ( before any start attacking me, back then I was just a scrub, I'm still a scrub now but at least I know that wouldn't work any more

God I’m late to this party but oh lord did I get wombo combo’d by so many of these. Pretty much most if not all of these were around and in my school meta back in 2012-2013 when I was a senior in high school. I “lost” a game to Scrap Iron Scarecrow when my Chimeratech Overdragon couldn’t attack enough times and fast enough to where my opponent would forget to activate that card. Infinitely stopping attacks is pretty broken.. until you realize it isn’t. Also there was a kid who played Dark Worlds AND a kid who played Six Samurai so like... oh lord. The Great Shogun and Shien 2 card lock down was the most oppressive thing in the game, and I still have zero idea if that Dark World player made any ruling errors but his deck sure did feel unfair. It’s sad that I’m learning today my deck probably wasn’t actually as bad as I thought it was and my opponents were just accidentally cheating. LOL

Can You explain me why i can't use mask chance when my opponent has they're can ve only one activated?

I understand the whole Shien thing, because I use to think that you can lock your opponent out. But, I learned about the whole thing if you negate its not successfully activated. Meaning the effect didn't gone through for Shien full effect. The whole Scrap Iron and Prisma kinda made me scratch my head. It's very obvious that you cannot activate traps the turn you set it and need the right Fusion Material to mill by Prisma. I have the very old printing of Prisma but always used Prisma correctly.

Along with Prisma, King of the Swamp was another one with a similar condition. I couldn't Fusion Summon Gravekeeper's Spiritualist because of that, and had to fuse another way.

If Prisma worked that way, you wouldn't use it with Escuridao etc., you'd use the Metalfoes monster that requires any monster with 3000 attack or less

I used to 1. Think MST negated 2. Try and use Spell Reclamation so I had infinite s/t negates

I like to use Spirit Barrier and Astral Barrier but haven't checked if there erratas to the cards; as I read it, if they target my monsters, I can make them attack me directly for 0 battle damage. Edit: I checked the erratas. No changes mentioned; it just becomes a 0 point direct attack

Scrap Iron Scarecrow's combo actually worked when used with Temple of the Kings's pre-errata effect, though that's an exception, and can't even happen anymore. Stall like that wouldn't be particularly broken though. Last bit of combos I saw that stall was Electrumite + Dragonox the Empowered Warrior, where Dragonox would pop itself in the scale to end the Battle Phase, and Electrumite would draw a card for that plus place it again in a scale next turn and repeat as often as it wanted to. it was an interesting and somewhat annoying thing xD

Something I misunderstood for a while when I was a kid was how cards like Guardian Sphinx worked. Specifically, I didnt understand that there was a difference between "when this card is flip summoned:" and "FLIP:". I still that that's a pretty arbitrary difference, but it is what it is. If anyone else is still confused by this I'll spell it out. Flip summoning is when you change a face down defense monster to face up attack. Its very specific in the rule book. "FLIP:" effects, on the other hand, are trigger effects that activate when a face down defense monster is attacked and flipped to face up defense position. In other words, the misconception was that I thought Giardian Sphinx's bounce ability worked when it was attacked, but you have to manually flip summon it during your main phase to trigger its effect.

The shogun shi en is also good since even if you negate the first spell/trap, your opponent cant respond with another spell/trap during that chain. Nice protection for situations like resolving utopic zexal

I dont need to understand complicated mechanics. Set a Man Eater Bug and end turn is the only combo I need.

Glad ive played Gx Tag Force 10 years ago.

Great video, I like how you mix it up a little positive and negative aspect, Keep it up. Remember, don't make it all negative, because there is a positive in everything :D

Spirit Reaper and Patrician of Darkness was basically unkillable for my first zombie deck against friends. Cant be killed by battle and I select monster attacks is pretty nice.

Scrap iron scarecrow says set it down after use n u have to wait till the next turn to use a trap card after being set, that's why it doesn't tell u that u can only use once