These headphones require a STRONG NECK - Moondrop VENUS

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Planar Magnetic headphones have usually been resrved for luxary headphones for discerning audiophiles, but it seems like Moondrop's new VENUS headset could be something more obtainable for the average person. Will Adam be impressed by his sound or is the Waifu on the box the best thing about this product?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Who's Moondrop?
1:34 Looking at the box and specs
3:07 Unboxing
4:46 Design and build quality
8:47 Sponsor - Manscaped
9:11 Audio quality impressions
11:28 Labs results and comparisons
13:33 Pricing and competition
14:29 Overall thoughts
15:18 Outro

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@GK_Squid Год назад

$50 says he takes this home and we see it end up being found in an extreme tech upgrade 10 years down the road

@batt3ryac1d Год назад

Easiest bet ever I bet you they're in his house already.

@instablaster. Год назад

He has to take them home otherwise he will get evicted because of loud home theater especially because of the subwoofer 😂

@vadosegalaxy1597 Год назад

It’s not extreme tech upgrade now it’s ultimate tech upgrade now

@SyntheticFuture Год назад

@@vadosegalaxy1597 in 10 years it might be the people's republic of Canada's upgrade. Who knows 😅😂

@GK_Squid Год назад

@@vadosegalaxy1597 shoot you right haha. I left that comment while walking around a grocery store lmao

@lionkrupke7342 Год назад

7:07 that's how electrostatic drivers work not planars. Planar magnetics work like this: the diaphram has windings on it that are like the coil in a dynamic driver. If a current is applied to it it induces a magnetic field which is attracted or repelled by the magnets on each side and because of that the diaphram starts to move and make sound. I hope that helps.

@Skylancer727 Год назад

Well electrostatic and planar function on a very similar property. The only difference is that electrostatics use a thin membrane and usually conductors at higher voltage. Otherwise they're very similar. Ribbon speakers also function on the same property with the diaphragm being waved for "added surface area"; though personally the only ribbon I think truly adds surface area is Air Motion Transformers as the ribbon actually moves like an accordion instead of a normal speaker.

@jamiepritchard8179 Год назад

@@Skylancer727 I wouldn't say electrostatics and planars are very similar, they have some similarities but more differences. Both planars and electrostatics have flat diaphragms, other than that the way that which the diaphragm is moved is completely different. Electrostatics use static electricity, quite literally like those van de graph generators, then use electro magnets to vibrate the diaphragm. Whereas planars use conductors on the surface of the diaphragm then use the motor effect(generated by the moving current through the conductors)to move the diaphragm.

@RAHelllord Год назад

@@jamiepritchard8179 Both versions still boil down to having a diaphragm wiggle around by itself while sandwiched between two non-moving grills. The electromagnetic way to get the wiggles happening is from different phenomena but the end result of sheet-of-plastic-making-noises is practically identical.

@jamiepritchard8179 Год назад

@@RAHelllord I agree! but the original dude said that they function on a similar property. But for headphones the differences in how the diaphragm is wiggled makes them sound different, and not too mention that electrostatics require a specialised power supply! I think that might be a consideration if you were looking to buy the headphones in the video for mobile use

@your_average_cultured_dude Год назад

@@jamiepritchard8179 van der graaf*

@jctai100 Год назад

Great to see the efforts of the new lab finally coming to fruition and we get to see 'normalized' results in the audiophile world. I really like how the graphs were presented with breakdown of what constitutes 'presence' vs 'brilliance' Good job!

@RyTrapp0 Год назад

I'm excited for when this whole shebang is fully up and running - I can't wait to hear the audiophile critics of LTT's testing lmao

@Dicloneus66 Год назад

@@RyTrapp0 As a former musician, I tend to select audio gear like how musicians select instruments. If this testing is going to be the future, I'd love to see people testing instruments to the same degree. For example, electronic guitars and their peripherals can easily be compared to the audio hobby.

@leeasy7112 Год назад

@@RyTrapp0 No they won't touch too deep into the snake oil world, for all those companies would pay huge money or lawsuits threats to shut LTT up.

@stefan514 Год назад

I think it was actually a little disappointing that they only compared it to a single competitor. I am sure they have several competitors at lmg and measuring them isn't really a big thing when you have the necessary setup standing around 🤷🏼‍♂️

@jctai100 Год назад

@@stefan514 I'll give them slack as they're still setting up standardized protocols and staffing. Maybe they're trying to be the next ISO9001 or something, plus an organization needs to make money and that doesn't happen with hugely long videos.

@amentia Год назад

Okay, this beginning was kinda crap... they actually go down to 20Hz on the frequency response quite well (2:30); 18Ω of impedance is actually below average, but that is not a good way to measure how easy they are to drive alone, since you need to also consider the sensitivity (2:40)

@nickthaskater Год назад

Sensitivity *

@amentia Год назад

@@nickthaskater thx! :)

@Glaxes Год назад

Agreed, I wish they actually got someone who is actually good when it comes to audio. As these are short videos with first impressions these videos may be the only review someone will watch, any mistake made could make a real difference whether someone will buy the product or not.

@JoFreddieRevDr Год назад

You get the impression he has no idea what he is talking about, and may not be the best person to review audio products?

@ttr_coco Год назад

Yeah soon as he started talking it became obvious he was reading off a poorly researched script, also that graph is absolutely terrible. Idk who's in charge of their measurements rig but they need to get the act together fast before Crin makes a "why LTT Labs measurements so strange" video

@improvisedradio Год назад

18Ohms should be able to run just fine from any device. The sensitivity however can change how well they can be driven. I understand this is the chill channel but would like to see a bit more understanding of driving headphones. Otherwise very enjoyable! Wish I could try these out as I love planar magnetic headphones and speakers.

@teqai Год назад

Had to rewind and check if I heard correctly at that point as well :)

@Garrettdx1988 Год назад

Right, I was kinda taken back when he said 18 wasn't that easy to drive

@dyermaker4731 Год назад

Thank you for saying this

@United_Kangaroo1992 Год назад

For context it's worth mentioning that apple buds are 40 ohms

@KontrolStyle Год назад

Not enough youtubers talk about how sensitivity can make people complain it's too quiet. cheers

@tylerkwiatkowski7767 Год назад

Love how he explained how different genres of music sounded on the headphones. Helps a lot as for a consumer that wants to enjoy their own music

@imwithyou38 Год назад

i dont currently have the money to buy any crazy iem or head phones so i spent the 80 whgen i had it to get the aria's. the things i noticed with them is that rock music doesnt sound that great on them as they kinda blur the layers as the instruments are on top of each other which these iems is the thing they are probably the weakest at but thankfully i dont listen to a lot of rock anymore outside like linkin park. these iems are def very good for things like edm genres or hip hop...i dont really listen to other genres so i cant say how they are for other types. my best friend is a dj and a iem/headphone hoarder so ive got to hear some of the best possible sound stage for like deep house, i dont remmber what the headphones were called but there cost more than 1000 dollars and then he had it hooked up to a bulb amp which he literally bought 30-40 different bulbs if not more to get it exactly how he likes it which is extremely layered sounding as his ear can hear it(there are people whos ears cant actually distinguish the layers of a widely layered song) i listened to a track that i loved and just came out.....i heard the song once and i was in such awww that it literally ruined the song for me because it was perfect. one day i wanna be able to afford that kind of audio equipment as it really makes the music cause a trance like state due to how layers for things in certain types of edm music that it causes you to sink into the music more than normal.

@yeahthatsright33 Год назад

I absolutely LOVE the fact that you guys can include proper frequency response graphs now. This just changed the quality of your guys reviews so so much!!!! Keep it up and please keep doing more of these headphone reviews! Please do the Monoprice Monolith M1070 and M1570! Absolutely nobody is really talking about those two headphones despite how massively popular their M1060 was.

@mrsushi1192 Год назад

ill save you some time and just tell you that they arent great. M1060 was popular, but wasnt great either. Massive ringing at 6khz and awful timbre.

@TheZaibs Год назад

Up with this comment!

@nachot6592 Год назад

The reason Sony, audio Technica and Sennheiser do not build stuff completely from metals is the weight. They have known for decades and this is precisely the main issue the Airpods max have. It looks fancy, but necks use muscles to maintain the posture in the end.

@juubilo1509 Год назад

Yep, pretty much all studio headphones are plastic for this reason. My DT 770 PROS are plastic aside from the headband and they feel and look great, It seems metal builds are really only done in consumer products to increase the percieved value.

@Lead_Foot Год назад

Planar magnetic drivers themselves are rather heavy with all the rows of permanent magnets. Dan Clark Audio gets around it by using carbon fiber and titanium for everything else.

@tbunreall Год назад

Ya, but these are for listening at home. By the time they'd start to feel heavy you'd probably be done using them anyway

@nickthaskater Год назад

And then you end up with creaky plastic joints. My Sundara is more than comfortable enough for extended sessions despite the metal build.

@RyTrapp0 Год назад

It really just depends, if you aren't going to have these on all day, that's a compromise we can make. It obviously makes sense that professional studio aimed phones are going to be more considerate of this.

@Jacob-hl6sn Год назад

It is good to see you guys measuring headphones and comparing them to the harman target curve.

@vivago727 Год назад

Awesome Video/First Impression/"Review". Thank you for this differentiated view, the frequency curves you mentioned, the other options that are out there etc. Keep it up. That's the content i'm here for

@Nubcake500 Год назад

Loved the graphs for this video. As a non audio crazy person they helped a lot to understand what's being said!

@chrisk3127 Год назад

wasn't expecting a review on this, love that you mentioned strings IMO Planars do strings so much more naturally than dynamics but on the other hand I find dynamics to do things like drums more naturally

@teqwar4600 Год назад

You miss-spelled "grift"

@Gobeman Год назад

Hoping to see (if you somehow manage to get one) a review on the Audeze Maxwell. As its finally shipping around the world finally. Overall a pretty decent wireless headset with 80 hours of battery. for some odd 300 usd

@MayankJairaj Год назад

3:37 "yo its a Tesla logo" Adam knew!

@Cahtah Год назад

Thank you for actually giving us a reference audio track to come to at home!

@JesseArt Год назад

I'm happy to see planar magnetic headphones becoming more present on the average consumer market. For me, they always seemed like unobtanium until recently. That said, as a budget-minded individual, I'm not sure what to try first. Drop and HIFIMAN have several entry level headphones, the HE-X4 at $129, HE4XX at $189 and the HE5XX at $229 (USD), listed on their website. Could you guys possibly do a video comparison on the most affordable entry level planar magnetic headphones? The HE-X4 may seem like a bargain, but is it worth it to just save for a bit longer and get the HE4XX? What sets the HE4XX apart from the HE5XX? Is it worth the extra price premium?

@harisonpunian3689 Год назад

He x4 is the best value of all of them, hifimans lower end product lineup is really strange and they're all fairly equivalent with different headbands

@rustyshakelford1466 Год назад

I would not try the lower-end stuff besides T50rp and variants/mods; he400i and the like are just ok. If you can't afford the $500 or so for an edition XS I would try a planar IEM, something like an s12 or Zetian Wu would be only $100-150 and they sound amazing.

@swordofdamoclesv285 Год назад

if you want a great entry planar, the HFM Sundara is a great place to start. If youre willing to spend a little more you can also get a Edition XS

@jakeharms1386 Год назад

I adore my HE400i pair that I got about 5 years ago (has the old headband style) if their quality is still similar I’d recommend for sure

@lain2236ad Год назад

Pro tip, the x4 and 4xx practically share the same driver and enclosure. Find whichever 400 series from them and get it (technically the 400se is the best though it doesn't matter) The 5xx is worse

@stalememe3305 Год назад

high-volume bass has always been a pet peeve of mine so these new lab results will be great for finding a pair of headphones that fit that niche, thank you!

@DarkBloodyFoxy Год назад

Crinacle should be proud of how audio reviews on LMG have changed

@theofficialczex1708 Год назад

This presenter makes a number of mistakes.

@DarkBloodyFoxy Год назад

@Carl Gunderson yes but they have improved a lot

@vianhoho19 Год назад

14:17 what you should've been looking at are the Edition XS instead of the Sundara. They're IIRC $499 and sound-wise, they directly compete against the Venus. I honestly need to try the XS again because it's been so long but the Venus is legit for a brand's first planar headphone 👌🏼

@xfrostyresonance8614 Год назад

To be honest, I haven't noticed much of a difference between Sundara and Edition XS. Not enough to get me to spend an extra $200.

@fahmieoracle Год назад

Great review, I really like that you do subjective review first and mention the songs that you played, then go to objective review. This is a great start for the headphone review.

@RaphaelTsang Год назад

I was very tempted to pick up a pair of these when I was in Hong Kong a couple months ago, but the stores that carried it were just a bit far away from where I was staying...they were selling for around $450 USD, which seemed like a much more reasonable pricepoint for these, maybe I'll pick up a pair the next time I fly back to HK :)

@chestnutrice9855 Год назад

450 is a steal goddamn

@RyTrapp0 Год назад

That's a REEAALLY well built headphone at $450! $600 is... fine... but $450 would be killer for these.

@Digger-Nick Год назад

No headset is worth $450 🤣

@icarusix8750 Год назад

@@Digger-Nick To each their own (Also, headphone, not really a headset. no mic.)

@Digger-Nick Год назад

@@icarusix8750 Oh no mic? Even worse LOL

@aquaventus Год назад

Considering it is very simple to remove the drivers from the band, you could consider 3d printing your own parts and just slot in the drivers, if you really wanted to reduce the weight that is. Gives a lot of room for customization too. Considering this is from Moondrop, they will probably release a cheaper plasticky non-planar model later this year but with almost the same tunings.

@bobbyhinner3225 Год назад

These look beautiful. I have a pretty wide head and don't like heavy headphones because my ears are sensitive, but I'd love to try them.

@patchstep Год назад

The ability to be able to respond to higher frequencies will probably reduce any “aliasing”-like analog artifacts at higher sample rates (that we use to get better anti-aliasing)

@sidesaladaudio Год назад

Love the labs and more audio science focus when it comes to headphone reviews (still super jealous of having the 5128. I want to experiment with one so bad), but there are errors and in some cases misleading information that you may want to iron out as you guys progress in audio reviews. Overall though, keep it up!

@Fc-Construct Год назад

It's definitely not an easy job for sure when it comes to reviewing headphones/IEMs. There's so much market competition, historical context, and technical explanation that needs to go into a really good review. Job gets harder if you don't have someone on the team who knows enough to help proofread, or is just going straight into the camera like Adam here. Curious to see how they develop more audio reviews in the future if they're going to continue being one-off Short Circuits like this or if there will be a more standardized series + learning video to come.

@RashidTak Год назад

A minor correction. 18 Ohm is by itself, very low impedence. For reference, HD600 has an impedence of 300 ohm. And most off the shelf earphones/headphones have an impedence of atleast 32 ohm. So in a vacuum, higher impedence means more power needed to drive properly. But how difficult a headphone is to drive depends on impedence as well as sensitivity. So a high impedence low sensitivity headphone will be very difficult to drive. Anything below 100dB/mW is considered to be difficult to drive. Basically 18 Ohm and 100db/mW is a pretty easy headphone to drive and the headphone jack of most modern laptops should provide enough power to run it.

@NCPhotography Год назад

Thanks for the freedom unit conversion!

@strobo3737 Год назад

Great to see some Chi-fi from you guys, I hope to see more of it in the future, even something within the budget area

@mst4001 Год назад

yoooo moondrop!!!! i m glad comment session s almost full of ppl who knows abt audiophile things well. sometimes there r just ppl dont know anything about these and start criticizing like they know abt these even b4 they were born.

@johnnyk3917 Год назад

I’d love a tech quickie video on how to understand and read the graphs used in videos

@BingsBuddery Год назад

Very well presented and explained... I found the frequency analysis particularly interesting and would love to see this kind of analysis done to find the ultimate budget headphone, both for gaming, and for audiophile music listening.

@sidesaladaudio Год назад

Koss KSC75. Pretty much the audiophile hidden gem for $19

@MyouKyuubi Год назад

no, it means that the headphones push out 6Hz to 80kHz, but that the signal from your PC is limited to 20Hz to 20kHz (Hence EFFECTIVE range), as most games, and music artists don't typically add noises to their music that exceed 20 kHz, etc... And though you can't necessarily HEAR below 20Hz, you can still FEEL below 20Hz in the form of a sense of "air pressure", which can be used artistically in music sometimes, and entertainment, to add a sense of rumble, or to simulate certain effects.

@Paz_Soldan Год назад

Listening to him talk about this was fascinating. Beyond the headphones.

@sovic20 Год назад

I have planar-magnetics HiFiMAN HE400i for more than 5 years and I'm very happy with them. Only thing is that I had to buy a new headband (the plastic part on one earcup broke) and replace earpads. I went for Mrspeakers Alpha pads and the bass is much much better. The build of these Moondrop's Venus looks very good

@tastypavo8845 Год назад

You guys should really do reviews of older headphones and classics headphones, i would watch all of them!

@jort93z Год назад

I have some moondrop aria IEMs. They sound great.

@MarioLuigi0404 Год назад

I got the Void personally. Super happy with it.

@scienceyoshi3037 Год назад

I love seeing all these headphone reviews, but I would love to see a review for something like the Astro A40s just to see how a "more affordable" headphone compares to something like the Sennheisers.

@AarPlays Год назад

I can't wait to see labs actually do the frequency response graph and to see if it actually stands out or if that was an eq'ed curve

@Armathius76 Год назад

When you do the comparing graphs... could you use more distinct colors? I am color blind and really had a hard time differntiating the 2 colors... don't really need to have such close colors when their is only 2 tests.

@LostHope... Год назад

man i want a set of moondrops so bad

@plompudu2529 Год назад

if you want any kind of moondrops you should check out the Moondrop Quarks DSP IEM. (For only ~20€ !!) They have thanks to the DSP/ in build EQ a basically perfect sound if you like the Harman-Taget (aka what the average Human likes). The only disadvantage is slight background noise in silent scenes but that's no problem when listening to music^^

@Wyatt_B Год назад

With Senhiesers newest release of the 660s2 they would be the most direct competition in terms of price at least

@eddie2000ad Год назад

I find a variety of scatman john songs an extremely good benchmark for testing headphones, huge variety and range in frequencies through his discography and a lot of nice little details easily missed on not so good sound systems, also was not expecting the gojira pick too, i trust his opinion on headphones purely on the music choice alone lol

@Frigobar_Ranamelonico Год назад

I would love to see you try the Hifiman arya stealth, personally from my experience are my favourite magnetic planar HP that I have ever tried.

@Mussyo18 Год назад

I suggest you also include the Harman curve as a separate line, it is what most other things are measured by and what we generally measure against and aim for. Would it be possible to include both yours and the Harman curve?

@mr.guillotine3766 Год назад

Really good information and breakdown. Labs is paying off for sure. I could never even dream of spending this much on headphones...I'm usually stuck looking for sales on MPows lol, so this is not in my budget.

@imwithyou38 Год назад

what kind of muysic do u listen to? if you listen to things like edm genres or hip hop i would highly suggest the moon drop auras at 80 dollars but if you are a big rock fan i wouldnt recommend them as the the instruments are on the same layer it struggles to pick it up cleanly

@mr.guillotine3766 Год назад

@@imwithyou38 I listen to primarily rap, but with some rock tossed in there. Honestly, my cheap MPows have been pretty decent for the most part. I'm sure I could find much better, but since I paid like $12 for these, I can't complain too much since they do handle most things at least "decently"...not great at any one thing, but nothing is really bad either.

@xfrostyresonance8614 Год назад

Not good information, actually. He was quite off on a lot of stuff.

@lucidnonsense942 Год назад

You'll take my AKG's from my cold dead hands... I learned to mix on them, every studio uses them as the baseline... Whenever I put other cans on, i always keep asking myself - but what did the sound engineer meant to make them sound like and 9/10 they had some AKG 2xx on. Because clients nick headphones and those are cheap enough not to bankrupt you while sounding like your studio monitors.

@annebokma4637 Год назад

Yups not giving up my hifiman Deva pro 😊 can't go without the versatility of bt or usb of analog in one planar headphone

@ShaneT5S Год назад

I’m glad the HiFiMAN Sundara were brought up, because yeah, they’re half the price of these, but they still sound amazing

@lordseppenstein2559 Год назад

Thank you... finally someone talking abaout Metal when it comes to headphones!

@Cupzero007 Год назад

I use their IEM Aria paired with bluetooth DAC Fiio BTR5, love it

@Mandragara Год назад

One thing about planars is that they are much easier to iteratively design and tune compared to dynamic drivers. So smaller companies can afford to 'play' with their designs more, leading to a more varied product landscape

@sayacee5813 Год назад

lmao at the tesla logo, such foreshadowing

@SeraphimKnight Год назад

I've heard a lot of good things about moondrop so honestly I'm tempted to drop the dosh for these.

@Alepap. Год назад

2:32 No what they mean is that it does 6hz to 80khz but the human ear can hear from 20hz to 20khz

@RichardBreen Год назад

I think that it would make sense to plot the difference vs the target, rather than putting both the headphone response and the target on the same graph. Otherwise, great info.

@rinkyouma2320 Год назад

I have the Moondrop Chu. It's awesome for the price!

@ernestryles Год назад

Sennheiser has MULTIPLE good IEMs. Like quite a few lol both wired and TWS.

@OzWizard. Год назад

With the Drivers being removable, you could make your own stap or holder and design your own headphones!

@mr.bennett108 Год назад

I have a set of vintage Audeze LCD-2's and I can say that Planar Magnetics are dope, and these look a LOT like my OGs. Only thing about ribbon headphones is that they require a bunch of power to drive, so you can't really just dump them into your phone and call it good, they need a pretty good amp to get the best out of them. Same with my Planar speakers (I have some Magnepan 1.7i's). Super inefficient and need a ton of wattage to drive them.

@nyxify19 Год назад

These look so cool

@thegrizzler534 Год назад

You could say that those headphones are ... Moondroppable

@KeyringHardhat Год назад

The dinging arrows were certainly a choice, good video other than that ❤

@andresgallego5727 Год назад

The 5XX are also a great option, probably a little less sophisticated in some areas compared to the Sundaras, but they do most of the work the Sundaras do for a 100$ less, the real difference to me is the QC and materials, Sundaras are made of metal and have the new kind of headband, meanwhile the 5xx cups are made of plastic and they have the now ancient og Hifiman headband with some adjustments.

@murisio Год назад

the only complain i have regarding moondrop is the quality of their cables, except for the ssr/ssp and the 3.5mm jack cable looks quite similar to the moondrop aria... it probably will be problematic

@h.m.chuang0224 Год назад

@Carl Gunderson IDK, like everything else you use?

@murisio Год назад

@Carl Gunderson the quality in general is amazing they just have this small caveat

@Badonicus Год назад

Should have had Anthony review, he has the neck of a redwood

@laurineder9939 Год назад

I know they are launched for a while now, but can you maby check out the Sennheiser momentum 4?

@TJWhiteStar Год назад

Getting some serious Dr Who Cyberman vibes with how these look. 😂

@FinneasJedidiah Год назад

That's a ride cymbal that you're hearing in Aja by Steely Dan

@carnsoaks1 Год назад

Use that rectangle of metal on the earpiece to mount each separately as speakers.

@jeevana.6391 Год назад

I don't think Sennheiser's lack of IEMs was because of a challenge, but rather trying to focus on better selling items. Their IE80s were famous, and the 800s were a good followup minus the attached cable. The IE600 and IE900 have both reviewed very well and are current models.

@gunter901 Год назад

I thought exactly the same.

@sujimayne Год назад

This guy shouldn't be reviewing anything, he was so wrong in almost everything he said throughout the video.

@xfrostyresonance8614 Год назад

@@sujimayne I found myself extremely annoyed. You can tell from his facial expressions and eyes darting around that this is not his natural spot and it's like 50/50 bad script and him just making shit up.

@KopfdesRiesen Год назад

Pretty sure they all reviewed pretty good but aren’t like killer iems for their pricepoint and sony is only using mmcx. Id pass on Sony iems i wasn’t happy with my X3NPs

@CreastNess Год назад

As much as I like my Kato, I've had a few years and am still in pristine condition. If I wanted open back planers I go for Hifiman as they have been known for planar and moondrop is just getting into err and Kato are there 3rd gen dynamic driver so they more then likely improve there planer over ears over time.

@colinedits9892 Год назад

For reference 18 ohms is quite easy to run on iPhone. EarPods are 40 and I’ve comfortably run 100 ohm iems using it

@lucca10000 Год назад

I really think you guys should unbox the headphones Audeze Maxwell A planar magnetic wireless gamer headphone that seems like everyone is praising it a lot and saying that the only flaw is the heat and weight

@The_Life Год назад

More from this dude! He's entertaining

@RemitheDreamfox Год назад

Also I do highly recommend the Sundara headphones

@jhguitarfreak2172 Год назад

I'd love to see a pair of Sony MDR-7506s and Sony WF-1000XM4s ran through your guys' testing rig. Just so I could have a frame of reference. I've been using 7506s for *years*, decades even, as my go to for gold standard studio monitors. I use the XM4s for casual stuff but on occasion I have used them to master a few things. Would be cool to see their comparison so I could EQ the XM4s to sound more like the 7506s, even though I know there's only so much you can do with an EQ.

@dabombcra Год назад

Thanks for the video full of laughter.

@pmatous Год назад

Not gonna lie, the way they look like with all of those sharp angles, edges, cheese graters and screws makes them a no-go in my book, it seems more like a result of rough blacksmithing rather than precise engineering. (Maybe I'm just not a target audience.)

@signalshiz Год назад

I love wood headphones, those usually cost a lot for nice looking open backs with good sound. I don't like all that metal also.

@EdwardElric6464 Год назад

18 Ohm is super low BTW. Moondrop Aria IEMs are 32 Ohm but have 113db sensitivity. Planar magnetic sensitivity is typically low which is what makes them hard to drive but 100db is fine actually. Most Hifiman headphone are in the low to mid 90s are more demanding. My Philips audio SHP 9600s are 32 Ohm & 100db but they're dynamic drivers. 32 Ohm is like the standard for low impedance anything lower is even easier to drive. For instance the 32 Ohm Beyrdynamic DT 770 is the lowest impedance version of that headphone and most people while tell you even the 80 Ohm version will run out of almost anything maybe even a phone, partly because of the high sensitivity. The more DB per watt and the lower the Ohms the easier to drive.

@Jojo_Tolentino Год назад

I wish I can buy planar cans but omg the dust in my place (construction/large field/near public roads) already stressing me out that the cans won’t survive out of the box.

@Diijkstra Год назад

Damn this is a very good review. given he's an audiophile also (from AMD Ultimate Tech Upgrade) More audio stuff please!

@kencccgs Год назад

Can't wait for you guys to check out Audeza Maxwell.

@Zer0sVoid Год назад

Can't wait for Moondrop to make a more affordable version of this.

@Booty_baker Год назад

I would like to know what dac and amp you guys are using for the lab results. Honestly would also like if you used a full sized dac and amp for your review if weren’t already. I don’t think anyone will be out and about with a portable dac using this giants. I know you’ll get full volume from a portable but I feel like I notice a difference in sound stage and range while listening to something that has much more power available then needed.

@Vel_Plays_2.0 Год назад

Thanks, Jake.

@aria8928 Год назад

the fio looks more like a dedicated audio player and vape rig combo tbh.

@Garrettdx1988 Год назад

ShortCircuit finally doing ChiFi? I'm here for it Edit: what'd he say about 18 Ohms not being that easy to drive?

@giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613 Год назад

What doee ChiFi mean?

@randomname00001 Год назад

@@giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613it's a play on hifi. This is a Chinese brand thus the naming of chifi

@dyermaker4731 Год назад

@@giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613 Chinese hifi

@Garrettdx1988 Год назад

@@giancarloraphaeldeguzman8613 Chinese Hifi. Companies like Moondrop, Fiio, Tripowin, KZ, Truthear, etc have been coming out with killer audio equipment and in the last year that particular market has gotten insanely competitive. It's been an exciting time for us audio nerds

@KontrolStyle Год назад

early in comments "18Ohms should be able to run just fine from any device. The sensitivity however can change how well they can be driven." They didn't talk about how they were driven though, but as you see he did use dac/amp in the video -- but if you're spending $600 on headphones you probably have some kind of dac/amp (right?) cheers.

@flikflak24 Год назад

Love planar magnetic Already own 3 planar's and I like them over my hd800s ( I own 2 in ear planar 1 in ear dynamic 1 over ear planar and one over ear dynamic )

@imwithyou38 Год назад

hd800s are imposters and not worth the price, real hd800's is my dream headphone but i will never be able to afford that kind of thing. ive listened to a lot of expensive head phones due to my best friend is a dj and a music equipment hoarder as he has at least 4-5 headphones in the 800-1000+ range. i dont remember which headphones that were but i remember him saying they are aorund 1000(he bought them used for 600 i think) but those with the bulb amp and how it was set up was as perfect as it could be for heavily layered edm music. i was in complete awe when listening to a certian deep house track and it ended up literally ruining the song for me because i dont have anything near that to be able to get that kind of sound. i just have the aria's and for what i could afford im happy with them, i dont listen to rock music much which is the arias biggestr weakness is closely layered things like instruments dont come as clear as they would on anything ive ever owned but since i listen to mostly hip hop and edm genres they are pretty good considering they are 80 dollars

@flikflak24 Год назад

@@imwithyou38 i bought mine brand new in a audio store for 1520 ( got friday discount cause it was right before closing and the guy wanted to go home xD ) btw they where/is fully authorized sennheiser sellers

@XalenMaru 4 месяца назад

Anyone know how these sound compared to HiFinman Sundaris? I'm looking for an upgrade path from mine, into this approximate price range, but I really love the wide frequency response on the Sundaris.

@Epsi1ong Год назад

The title and the general shape of the Venus made me think this was an Audeze video

@Eleven5Five Год назад

If I am not mistaken, isn't 18 Ohms really low? Like the Apple default earbuds are higher than that. When Adam says that might be hard to drive, did he mean 180 Ohms? I used HD58X's on my iPhone using the dongle which is 150 Ohms and it worked fine. There was zero headroom, but it worked.

@kennyvaas1336 Год назад

Impedance is hardly relevant. Sensitivity matters way more. 18 ohm or 600 ohm says little about the power needed.

@xfrostyresonance8614 Год назад

@@kennyvaas1336 All impedance tells you is what you should opt for to ensure you get an amp that'll fit.

@Couchgaming761 Год назад

I like this guy. Do not replace him.

@stevek662 Год назад

hifiman does a pretty good job in this price range. the v6? whatever it was. i had them. they broke after 2-3 years of daily use. i was sad. did not replace because there is quite a bit of familiarization to headphones and having something good will sound fine and having something great will sound good, over time. basically, great headphones will amaze you at the start and then become normal and then become average. i mean, unless they are much more expensive than any of these sets.

@kylerclarke2689 Год назад

Saying that Sennheiser only has one good IEM is insane. Their entire new IE refresh has been pretty well received

@n00beh Год назад

I'd like to see a review of the moondrop dash. I'm running one rn with 4m jack iem but I can't quantify quality

@brothert9195 Год назад

OMG I love this guy.

@Skiptrac3 Год назад

*Sigh* I hate that he said "18 ohms is kinda hard to drive". This has NO context and is factually false information. The Moondrop Venus are rated at 18 Ohms, 100dBa/mW Sensitivity. You have 2 factors to how "Easy" it is to drive a Headphone. Resistance and Sensitivity. The lower your Resistance (Ohms) the easier it is to drive. The Higher your Sensitivity (dBa/mW) the easier it is to drive. At 100dBa/mW it takes 1mW of power to output 100dB of sound, and at 18 Ohms, that's REALLY easy. And, 100dB of sound is VERY loud. For context, a pair of Apple Earpods is rated at 32Ohms, 104dBa/mW. So, in a way, it's EASIER to drive the Venus than it is OG Earpods. Please @ShortCircuit team, next time you do a Wired headphone or IEM review, please keep this in mind.

@KontrolStyle Год назад

Loving all the knowers coming in and sharing cheers

@pokelij Год назад

What he said was 18 ohms isn't the easiest to drive, which is correct because if you have a source, such as like a dx3 pro or something with tubes, that has a high Output Impedance it wouldn't pair well. In addition most headphone amps are voltage source so technically the higher the impedance a headphone is given the same sensitivity, the easier it is to drive

@RyTrapp0 Год назад

"This has NO context" Because you LITERALLY took it out of context by excluding the rest of what he said..........

@SaveMeAzathoth Год назад

You misread the sensitivity btw. It’s 100dB/V not dB/mW, which plugging into a headphone power calculator spits out 56mW to get 100dB; 1 mW gets you 80dB. But for a real world comparison, my experience running these is that for reasonable listening levels these basically run fine with the volume set to the same level as I would for a pair of HD6XX. So while there are *some* amplification requirements, they aren’t especially hard to meet.