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My PC runs it fine for the most part, the one major issue I am having though is the game's ping spiking from 120ms to 999ms or 240ms causing the game to suddenly freeze up. It's at it's worst when loading into the game for the first time but gets lesser & more infrequent the longer I play, but it still continues to happen, which while not game breaking is very annoying & something they need to fix asap.
my experience from my two devices with very different specs - playing on my new device 12GB RAM with Snap 8+ gen 1, no issues on performance etc, medium setting giving 55-60 fps, high setting around 50 fps without cooler, got two bugs since day one until now (mobs going underground and Scar phase 2 cutscene didn't play but i can skip it) - forcing my old device to play the game with 4GB RAM and Snap 625, running the game for around 30 minutes for now, of course it was lagging so bad like i only got 5-10 fps or something 😂 but no crash at all
Such a breath of fresh air to have Connor here have such a down to earth take on this. I've been looking around after launch in the space for opinions of other CCs and general reception and so many people are just way overboard with their reactions. It's great to have you be actually logical about this, even though it really is just basic logic at the end of the day...
"A little bit out of proportion"?? When you go to Twitter you would think WuWa killed their cat or something xD But the most absurd thing is people going around now claiming Genshin didn't have any optimization issues ever, meanwhile I still can't play it on my phone to this day lol As for WuWa I thankfully have a flawless experience, the only issue I had was the Epic launcher not working, I had to use the actual Kuro launcher that's in the game folder and I haven't had any issues since.
Genshin is also a much bigger game than WuWa, I was able to play Genshin completely fine on my S10+ up until Fontaine came out. It was only after that that it became nearly unplayable, but that's to be expected considering I'm still on a 2019 phone. You wouldn't be talking like this if you were experiencing the same issues with WuWa as the rest of us are. I haven't even been able to install the game, I'm on my 3rd installation attempt now cause everytime it reaches 99.9 - 100% it just gets stuck going back and forth between those and it never fully installs and when I exit the launcher and reopen it the download gets reverted back to like 3gb - 5gb's(I'm using the official Kuro Launcher FYI). The game is practically unplayable and Kuro should've delayed the game rather than rushing its release to capitalize on all the hype and to get the jump on Hoyoverse before they release Zenless Zone Zero. A game's launch is incredibly important and it seems they didn't learn their lesson from PGR's initial global launch, nor even PGR's PC launch which came with tons of issues with its launcher. Before you say anything or call me a Genshintard or fanboy, I don't even play Genshin that much these days, and my favorite gacha game of all time is literally PGR. Wuthering Waves was my most hyped game for this year and I was expecting a summer - fall release, but them releasing it in spring made me worried and I was correct to be worried because look at what's happening. Tons of people cannot even play the game because of the terrible optimization and insane amount of bugs. This is Cyberpunk 2077 all over again(although the in-game bugs aren't quite as bad, in terms of actual optimization it's just as bad if not worse, and for a lot of people they can't even play the game due to the bad launcher not installing the game properly or because of crash issues).
@@TheBoltMaster456 Well, but 1.0 wasn't. In fact I would argue it was much smaller than WuWa is right now. But it was never playable and never became any more playable for me, neither on my phone nor my laptop. So back then I played exclusively on PS4 until the PS4 performance became ridiculously bad once Sumeru released, so frankly speaking the only reason I can play Genshin at all these days is because I bought a new PC. You can argue there are things Genshin does very good, optimization is very much not the first thing that would come to my mind though. Also what do you mean "talking like this"? I am just sharing my personal experience. And I can understand people being upset that their experience is bad, but acting like this is the worst launch ever and WuWa is such a terrible game... must not have played a lot of games Day 1 these past few years. Because that is what I mean by out of proportion. Cyberpunk 2077 was just an optimization disaster across ALL platforms, and even just beginning to fix it literally took MONTHS. Meanwhile WuWa has an unfortunate 25% of people who are affected by major issues. Considering that the other 75% have minor or no issues at all proves that it's not actually a general optimization issue, but major bugs that affect certain system specifications, which means contradictory to what many people think, and what even I originally thought, these do not actually take that long to fix. Considering many people already report that their experience went from basically unplayable to pretty smooth in less than two days confirms that. I agree Kuro kuro-ed again with their launch, and I was worried this is exactly what would happen, but they are making the best out of a bad situation and at least already prove to everyone that they are super communicative and actually addressing all issues, all the way from major bugs to story-writing and voice overs, which already puts them worlds above some other gacha devs.
@@JJKMagic dude when even people on the latest flagship phones(Samsung S23 Ultra and S24 Ultra, aswell as Iphone 14 pro and Iphone 15 pro) are having performance, lag and stuttering issues with the game then it's not just a problem of specifications, it's general terrible optimization. And you still haven't addressed how some people can't even install the game cause of the buggy and terrible launcher. This installation issue has never happened to me with any other game Yeah, not just any other gacha game, but any other game in general. Genshin's launcher didn't have these issues, Honkai Impact's launcher didn't have these issues, neither did Honkai Star Rail's launcher, or NIKKE's launcher, or Solo Leveling Arise's launcher, or 7DS Grand Cross' launcher.
@@TheBoltMaster456 That is actually proving my point though. If some of the POWERFUL devices struggle and some lower end devices magically work better it's not actually optimization. If it was, it would be the other way around. Maybe it is the high specifications that have issues, technology can be weird like that. The launcher issues I can't comment on, I have no idea what might be causing that. I know the Epic launcher doesn't do shit for me but when I switch to the actual Kuro launcher everything is perfectly fine
It may not be mainly because of the lower spec. Lots of people with older phone (like me) say no prob while some high end phones say its unplayable. Same for pc, some people with 4080 have very bad lag/ stuttering while some older system (4-5 years old) has no problem. I'm pretty sure, this is very much a software/memory leak problem/ rendering cache corruption/ driver etc....
And all of this is also mixed with false flags simply because people expect it to work like Genshin despite higher graphical fidelity... (HDD installs etc.) I can confirm that game is OK for my brother with RAM and processor from 2011 and bottlenecking GPU from 2018 xD
@@timrim9405 Well I can play cyberpunk 2077 in 4k with ultra settings but wuthering waves manages to regularly drop into the 40s with regular stuttering
@@SpitzkopfRandy As I said it's harder to find out what is happening because everything is mixed with huge amount of false flags - you can see this in many places where people are showing their specs and unfortunately even installs on HDD are not that rare. It's probably caused by comparisons to Genshin. Big problems with this game on PC are not super common - this is why it's hard to find influencers with such problems. It's possible that problem is mostly on Win 11 ot less common AMD cards or something like that and it would be horrible... Because game is definitely not optimized just for top PCs of influencers - I can personally confirm that game do not require beefy PC to work OK. I tested game on RTX 2060, 16GB RAM 1333MHz!, i7-2600 (released January 2011!). Win 10, Max settings 1080p, no stuttering at all, mostly 60FPS + rare drops never below 40FPS (not in battle and not immediate, so not that easy to notice). I can gain only few FPS on lowest settings probably because it's old bottlenecking PC that have issues with open world stuff. This PC had the same issues with "Sons of the Forest" - some drops to 40FPS and FPS exactly the same on low and high setting... Another similar PC but with faster RAM have more FPS in this game and won't drop below 60FPS so in normal situation WuWa probably should work even better.
"hmm how am I going to bash this new game that are very similar to the game that Im playing, oh wait there are people discovering some bugs let me use that excuse to doom post the game into obvlivion then"
He ain't wrong though, I've been experiencing performance issues aswell, sure I never got kicked from the game or anything but after 20 or so minutes of playing the game it starts giving me fps drops and my game starts slowing down like hell, constructive criticism is never a bad thing, especially when the devs themselves are literally demanding clear and concise feedback for solving the problems of the game. Don't take this the wrong way, I absolutely love this game so far and I've been enjoying it performance issues aside, but these problems should not be ignored for a better overall experience
@@MursalMalikzade oh dont worry Im not referring to the guy, I do understand and experienced issue that the game has. Im just making fun of doom poster
At least on reddit, I have seen very minimal doom posting but lots of actual, fair critique. So idk if it's different on other platforms but so far I feel like people dismissing anyone negative about the game as "doom posters" Is just cope. The game won't die, but the hype it had has definitely simmered down. I doubt it will compete with genshin, after all, first impressions are important because that is what keeps players interested. Not everyone is a die hard fan who will see this terrible launch through, so as I see it, the damage has kinda already been done.
@@icantthinkofagoodnameso1954 atleast from my experience with a borderline minimum requirement pc I've only encountered small bugs and some rendering problem but nothing gamebreaking unplayable mess people made it out to be. But yeah sure I guess thats coping
my phone runs super well and not that hot. but, when I'm on pc he uses too much cpu and ram while keep having frame freezes every 5 sec while the audio lags most of the time when there's like cut scene i just hear the main menu background music.
The lag is definetly noticable the fps drops usually at the start of the game,stutters,heating(more then it should on my laptop) and the ping spike(recconecting issue).My device is definetly able to run medium-low settings 60 fps stable so they gotta fkx this asap
I want it more optimized, I'm still getting lags on towns or just while running.. More lags when I swap fast then summon and my settings is the lowest 1 green bar
I have a i3-9100f, a gtx 1060 3gb and the only issues I've had was the lagging/fps dropping and after the update yesterday made my game start to disconnect, i run on low graphics with 60 fps and I've been having a lot of fun
The only Issue I’ve had is the fatal error crash problem to where I can’t even start the game, On Mobile it’s fine so far [Though staring down at a phone sucks compared to laptop]
my problem with WuWa is that my phone is compatible with it, the downloading of the game stopped at one third of it and the game shut down by itself and i can't enter it even if i reinstall it for 5 times then i lost hope of playing it i played PGR on my phone and it was running smoothly
Kinda weird... My xiaomi pad 5 had huge framerate dps when roaming around even in low settings. But when I play wuthering waves on my oneplus 8 pro, it runs just fine in low settings.
I havent gotten any unplayability bugs... I have had backgrounds glitch out during the story, and while i was playing lingyangs story quest the auto skip would cut him off some times... Also found a couple missing buildings that I reported already- It honestly surprised me to see a whole building missing though. I guess the most annoying thing is the ping, its all over the place.. one second ill be 300 and the next I can be at 20 again in a couple minutes..
The problem now is that with the same hardware configuration, some people's games do not run smoothly, while others have no problems. This is a very strange question. The reasons I can think of may be that the operating environment is different, the graphics card driver is not updated to the latest state, and the system update patches are not all installed, etc. My PC now has the latest graphics card driver, and the system is also in the latest state. Many people don't like to update the system. Is it possible that this is one of the reasons?
That is definitely possible. There's a reason that devs put out notices to update drivers if issues persist after they performed some bug fixing. I work in QA and updating the drivers to the latest version is the top priority before we even start testing to make sure we don't report issues to our devs that we are not responsible for, and thus can't fix on our end. This is also the reason I think it's not a general optimization issue in WuWa at all, but major bugs that are very specific. On the good side that means that most of them should be fairly easy to fix.
Here's the thing. I can run Wuthering Waves. It's laggy and frame dropping yes. But it's better than not being able to run Genshin at ALL. My immersion was completely broke when during the first cutscene of the game, I had to endure with stuttering. That didn't happen with WuWa.
You under estimate the level of work required to fix performance issues. I know pc games where devs had years and still couldnt fix the issues. Often times, its an experience issue where the devs simply dont have the engine know how to pull it off. So yeah, its very unlikely that the devs will fix the fps issues completely. They are too new in the pc gaming field and this afaik is there first rodeo in unreal pc.
I would disagree with this statement, for the fact, that for many people the game runs perfectly fine, even on lower end devices, which points less to general optimization issues and more towards major bugs affecting certain systems. Many people report that even the basic hotfixes already improved their performance from basically unplayable to pretty smooth, which seems to confirm that suspicion. It will not run on every device, that's what required system specs are for, but out of those that do run the game I'm fairly optimistic most of the issues can be fixed given some extra time.
I've been playing since launch, not even a single crash I had some problems with the lag but it was my fault because I installed the game on the hdd and after I moved it to the ssd it works fine
@nicerium6247 Unforeseen problems will always occur, but if similar issues affects a large portion of the playerbase, that should have been tested and fixed. This feels like they wanted to hit a summer deadline and hoped people would put up with it. Many of the people said the cbt2 was even worse, so they have been working, it was just a rushed product (probably due to the story rewrites).
@nicerium6247 I have no joke not seen a single game have a worse more unplayable launch since Cyberpunk 2077. I'm not exaggerating either. Not even Pokemon Scarlet/Violet or Tower of Fantasy were this bad.
I'm not even able to install the game on my laptop. Everytime my download reaches 99.9% it just starts going back and forth between 99.9% and 100% and gets stuck like that. I'm on my 3rd installation attempt now and it's getting seriously frustrating. If this attempt doesn't work, I'm downloading it on my phone just to claim the rewards before they expire, and then I'm waiting until they release an official statement saying that they fixed the damn launcher of this game.
Nah bro it's been 3 weeks and there have been no improvements at all. Things aren't getting blown out of proportion, it's the exact opposite. People who wanted to play the game but couldn't are quitting now because they realized it will never be fixed at this rate. So now people aren't talking about it because the ones who had the issues in the first place, have quit, and those who are left just don't have a loud enough voice to even matter. It's just straight up lazy from Kuro Games and sets a bad precedent for the future development of this game. They only know how to hand out apology astrites, not actually fixing the issues of the game. Extremely disappointing because I really liked the game too.
For me i only experience frame drops and freezing when launching the game for the first time and that's it other than that everything is fine and I still having a blast playing it
There are certainly issues I encounter. For instance, while in the game, lag, framerates drop, or when switching language voice, the game will no longer display conversation dialogs nor play the voice of the language. All of these problems are what create a bad first impression. Let's hope the DEV get to as many bugs as they can.
It is an issue and it is annoying but every time I log in there's a new update clearly showing that they are working on it which is more than some devs of other games I've played ever did.
i am completely new to Wuthering Waves and the style (i have never played genshin). I downloaded it because I saw you can 'pull' cool characters, and I enjoy playing gacha on my phone. My PC is decent (RTX 3060, 16gb ram, Ryzen 5 3600), but the game is genuinely unplayable. I can't move, jump, or even open the menu without a 1-2 second freeze. I play on SEA and live in Australia. Not sure if the ping is the problem, or if maybe my game installed wrong. Hopefully they can fix it so I can play 🙏🙏
i play on an older pc had no problems with lag its runs at 42ms as standard 50ms at times but thats about all have seen some bugs but nothing ground breaking and i am on max settings and convertting it to HDR MY Hardware is cpu AMD 3600FX 6 core GPU RTX 3700 RAM 32 GIG SSD HARDDRIVE SO IF i can run it on max settings think most of you will be fine as well playing on EU servers i think day 1 was a smooth start at least for me happy gaming guys
hmmmm I don't know cause at the same time gatcha games like this are getting more and more advanced these days if creaters keep prioritizing high quality graphics like this using the newest engines and shit I see a future where if you want to play anything good on mobile you're gonna have to download a couple thousand dollar phones majority of mobile players are more midranged/ low end devices and honestly I'd rather spend a thousand for a new pc then waste it on a phone sadly not everyone has that kinda money. I've been following wuthering waves for a looong time absolutely love what kuro is doing I just hope not all their new games are gonna be this advanced lol I've waited for a year for this game and sadly cannot play it it runs but MAYJOR lag during combat and its so pixilated its hard to see I however know that this part isn't kuros doing my device is just not cut out for this kinda quality....... eh or unreal engine 4 in general lol
Yeah the game just lanched give it some time few updates and those issues will be history... With my phone (sd g1 ) i had some issues ( one is especially annoying ..the blurry charecters) ... But so far it's fine
I am experiencing these issues and it is frustrating, but even with them i'm still enjoying the game! I'm glad people spoke up about it and i'm impressed that kuro actually addressed it pretty much immediately!
I'd love to keep playing it but but a inconsistent 60 fps that often stutters isn't fun or enjoyable, there's absolutely no reason why my rig can't run it and even on very low capped to 30 it still manages to somehow freak out and chug bleach. The combat is exactly what i wanted and Calcharo is bae but unplayable is unplayable. I'll probably come back if it's ever fixed but first impressions matter a lot for the scene at large.
Only played untill I could summon maybe a few minutes later but I had no issues untill then. I hope everyone else will be able to play the game perfectly aoon too.
Yesterday I had to play it on mobile and it a lot of blurry screens and lagging, but today it didn’t any lag or blurry screen whatsoever although my phone’s hardware is causing most of the trouble cuz it’s way too old.
For me personally the game is currently unplayable. Although I am from Germany I am getting 100-999 ping spikes on EU server. The FPS are contantly below 10, faces and other textures are bugging out. So compared to other games that's not a good start at all. BUUUUT if they keep giving us pulls for as long as the issues are still there I am willing to wait for fixes and give it another shot.
Danjin is AWESOME!!! also they giving more stuff today!!!! when genshin came out, the game had bugs and issues.... and its survived so I'm sure WUWA going to be fine even more will rule!
Not an excuse for the game having a launch almost as bad as Cyberpunk 2077. I literally can't even download the game, I'm on my 3rd attempt now and everytime it gets stuck at 99.9 - 100% and I'm NOT the only one having this issue, I've seen hundreds of people with the same issue complaining about it on Twitter, Reddit and the Playstore.
I have a laptop with intel i5 gen 7, 16 gb ram , amd radeon r5 m430 graphics card with 2gb video ram Can i play wuthering waves smoothly on the lowest graphics settings possible? Please answer my question
I feel extremely lucky because I'm below minimum requirements with a i7-6700T CPU @ 2.80GHz and a Geforce GTX 960, and I've had ZERO issues at all playing the game
I'm sorry but if you're telling me this shabby ass looking phone game needs more then a GTX 1070 to run I'm gonna have to stop you there lol, but luckily it runns decently on my phone so I'm not mad at Kuro, it's not like i paid 60 bucks for this game like cyberpunk
Idk this game seems unpolish at all Combat animation fell like cheap mmo,weird sound effect,can't run stable on my Poco x6 pro(AnTuTu 1.4mil) and rog ally,huge map but feel hollow and incoherent,and generic meh story on early I know people want GI competitor,but not this bad game Just wait azure promilia,project Mugen and another OW anime upcoming game for real GI competitor
BEFORE ANYONE LABELING ME GENSHIN FANBOY I dont even play genshin and just want to play the game since i like Kuro games. And my frame drops until 5 FPS. ON THE LOWEST SETTING My pc does smooth 60 FPS on Elden Ring, Lies of P, Baldurs Gate 3, AC games, subnautica, and more Weird thing is my old laptop that PERFORMS WORSE than my pc on the game i mentioned can run 50 FPS wuthering wave My conclusion was "the game must not been optimized for AMD GPU since my laptop that runs with NVIDIA runs better" can anyone confirm this? Or some NVIDIA GPU players also got issues
Oh man the copium. of course WuWa ain't dead on arival but lets be real, lots of players have already made up their mind and quit because not everyone is a die hard wuwa fan. It won't die but it has also blundered it's chances of being any sort of competitor to genshin now. Hoyo are probably celebrating.
Is it copium or are you doomium? Food for thought.... Honestly its really cringe to say they've "Blunderer" any chance of being a competitor when this really isnt then end of the world at all. Hoyo isnt celebrating in the least, on the contrary, this whole situation is a great show of character of Kuro games as to how they deal with issues moving forward. But its okay, you can keep playing genshin, no one is forcing you to play WuWa when you clearly hate it from the get go for some reason lol.
@@SpyralKing I ain't huffing "doomium" or what ever you're saying. If you read my comment then you would see that what I mean by "blundered" is that they have already turned off a fairly big chunk of their players due to this crappy launch. Of course the compensation and nice words from Kuro are going to be appreciated by those who are already fans and dedicated to WuWa, but what about the people who don't really have any sort of investment and just downloaded the game because they saw that it was popular and the first thing they get is a ton of bugs and technical issues? They're long gone. To be a competitor to Genshin requires a large amount of players, that's why everyone was so hyped when WuWa reached 30mil pre-regs. But now the 30mil means nothing because they are simply just numbers in the past, the actual player count is not 30mil. And I do know that it is inevitable that every game will lose players on launch but let's not lie to ourselves and say that WuWa has lost players due to no fault of the devs, the poor launch has definitely been a big factor in those losses. It ain't gonna die but I doubt it will make Hoyo start sweating anytime soon, is all I'm trying to say. Edit: also, I quit Genshin 2 years ago. I do not like Genshin, and I have been hyped for WyWa ever since CBT1 and have been following as much content about I as possible up to now. But I ain't a professional glazer, I can acknowledge when they did something wrong and critique it. People like you are just as insufferable as the Genshin stans.
@icantthinkofagoodnameso1954 thing is though, any player who leaves after day 1 because things weren't working for them were not gonna stay either way. Those people are not the demographic. They're the types that play a week. For any sensible person that actually cared about the game because of what it had to offer, they'll just go through the rough patch. This is only a speed bump if you ask me. And it's beyond obvious that there was never going to be the whole 30 mil players after launch no matter what, because like I said, those players leave after a week either way. I'm very much okay with critisizing and acknowledging the shortcomings of the game, but this outlook on the situation is just disproportionate. And, like I said, if WuWa sets a precedent for themselves from this situation that they respond quickly to issues and compensate players accordingly, it shows what kind of company they are and what we can expect in the future. Genshin doesn't need to have WuWa be as big as them to see them as competition. They need something with a strong foundation and a strong execution of features that people won't get from genshin. The potential is threat enough
@@SpyralKing I slightly disagree. Let me address them point by point. Warning: lots of yapping ahead *1) anyone who leaves on day 1 was going to leave anyway* While yes I agree that there are a hand full of people who just leave due to the game not being their type. There are also those who will oeave the game due to the game itself being the problem, stuff like bad performance, optimization, or simply objectively bad/boring design. I hate to bring Genshin in as an example, and i know this might make you think im a GI meatrider but i genuinely am not. When Genshin came out, I, who didn't know anything about the game and just heard that it released from a friend, tried it out with no sort of loyalty or prior knowledge but i still did not leave at day 1, despite not really liking gacha games, why? Because it was enjoyable and a very smooth launch. Basically, they made me into a Genshin fan (im no longer one tho). Now if Genshin had released in a broken, buggy, messy state and that was the very first impression i got as soon as i launched the game, I would have most likely dropped it and never gave it a second thought. Now that's not the case with WuWa for me personally as I am a WuWa fan and have been following it way way back so i am naturally biased and will not be dropping the game despite my poor experience with the technicak issues, but the reason im making this point is because I myself have been seeing a fair number of people who share those sentiments when i have been looking through the online communities of wuthering waves. Now yes you can say that those people are "fake fans" Or were never fans to begin with so no duh they would quit, but isn't the developer's job to make a game that will get people into becoming fans? As far as i see, they have failed to convert a majority of the people whom were not fans into fans. At least that's what Genshin did to me when it launched, and to many people as well, as Gacha was quite a more geeky genre back then but Genshin managed to draw in and convert many "normies" Into fans of their game. *2) It is beyond obvious that not all 30mil will play after launch* Well yeah I acknowledge that some loss is inevitable for every game, my point was that it could have been way less loss if the launch would have been smoother, i don't really think you can or should deny that as that would be ignorant. It's not always the player's fault if a game losses player count. It's a bit more nuanced. 3) *If WuWa sets a precedent for themselves that they respond and compensate, it will show what kind of company they are and what WE can expect in the future* I 100% agree with this, I even mentioned it earlier. But you wanna know why i put an emphasis on "WE"? It's because yeah, we/us fans will appreciate Kuro's competence, but what about the others? The people who aren't fans? The people who are turned off from the game? The people who don't care about Kuro nor WuWa? Will it bring them back? I think both yes and no, there will be people being tempted to go back for the rewards, but there are also those that have been burnt. Im saying that ideally, whilst i di love the rewards, Kuro shouldn't have even been in this situation to begin with. This solution of compensation will help the game a lot, but a better launch would have been far more healthy. 4) *Wuwa doesn't need a lot of players to compete with genshin* I do think they need lots of players, as much as they can get, to put pressure on Hoyo and Genshin. Afterall on the surface it is obvious, more players = more money. But also it goes deeper, more players means a stronger, further reaching community, more players means a better upholding of the game's reputation, more players means less players or less dedicated players of the competition. So having a large amount of players is quite important imo, and i also think that one of, if not the best time to get a large influx of players is the very launch of a game. So the reason im bringing this up is because that WuWa had a chance at getting even more players with their launch, but they kinda squandered it a little, and for me it stings because i want this game to reach 110% of it's hype and potential, and now it will be a slow climb, they will of course gain more and more but not the large spike that the launch could have gotten. This gives genshin a lot more time to grow and gain even more than they have, sadly. I will not be quitting WuWa anytime soon, but if i can summarize my thoughts it would be; WuWa will be a successful game, but it didn't reach the launch potential that it could have had due to a very rocky start, and because of that i feel a little disappointed. Edit: spelling errors, I hate auto correct
@icantthinkofagoodnameso1954 Hey, you know what, I love that you're taking the time to answer and make it so we can have a mature discussion without simply being angry the other showed some disagreement. I also don't care that you do use genshin as an example, it's totally fine as it is the Goliath of the genre, theres no avoiding it. I also stopped playing genshin for one about 2 years ago, and recently came back to it about a month back for arlecchino, and yet the game still did not change 95% of the things that made me leave in the first place to my dismay, but oh well. My personal hopes are that WuWa applies enough potential threat to lit some kind of fire under their booty cheeks. I'd say I totally agree with all the things you've added, like absolutely a smooth launch is quite important, genshin for one had an insane launch in terms of profits (don't remember if it had any major technical issues, I generally don't get issues myself like right now so my experience isn't really good to gauge). So yeah, that would help boost numbers at first glance. At the same time though, I feel that for the majority of the targeted audience for the game who lets face it will be on social media/youtube, seeing Kuro improve on it, show some very good rewards like a selector, anyone in the sphere who sees this news (in my mind anyways) would most likely come back at least to see where it goes (it is free after all, unlike a cyberpunk that a person most likely refunds and then might very well never buy again). I cant say whether or not these positives would overtake the negatives points in the number of players, who knows what happens in practice, but it wouldn't but a stretch to assume it doesn't get in as many people from the get go, I agree. I think it's fair to be dissapointed that the launch isn't 100% flowers and petals, smooth sailing, only positive feedback. For sure, no arguing there. Just like you I want to see the game grow and be something that can "stand in the ring" in the face of a Goliath that is genshin. Just gotta keep in mind though that from the start, this would be an uphill battle. Kuro isn't as mainstream as Hoyo is for one. They don't benefit from being covid stay at home buffed either (which i would say is the bigger factor). So i believe most of their potential lies in their growth anyways from the get go. Proving that they are offering a quality game for others to join in, may that be now or after a couple weeks/months. Let Kuro cook as they say.
I think we need to stop downplaying issues. It comes off as desperation. Literally the issues are happening on ALL platforms. Just because YOU aren't dealing with it does not mean it's minor. We know content creators are on the payroll for Wuwa, but stop the glazing... PLEASE!
Do you think Wuthering Waves will completely take over PGR? I've been playing it and just doesn't feel like the battle is as fast paced as it is in PGR.
Let me say this : Anyone who drops the game ON DAY 1 OR 2 after realease really didnt care for the game in the first place at all. They were not the demographic. These people were gonna play for like a week to a month before leaving anyways. Thats gotta be the stupidest mentality to just doom and gloom and say "ill never touch the game again" because on day 1 it didnt work well. If you were actually invested in the game and what it had to offer, you'd just wait for the issues to be fixed because the game looks fun to you. That's it.... We've been waiting months for it to release, what is a couple days to wait for devs to straighten out their loose ends. Just get over it. Take Cyberpunk as an example. Absolute TRAINWRECK. Like one of the worst launch EVER of ANY game. And yet look at it now. The game was unplayable for a long time too, way WAY worse than anything WuWa is going through, yet people still went back to it.
The truth is Wuwa was overhyped by many CCs for a long while. That made a lot of people waiting for the game inherited very high expectations of the game. Especially that it was consistently being promoted by many CCs to be a better Genshin Impact, all while shit talking everything about Genshin Impact. (That explains the aggressive come back of the Genshin community on the Wuwa community after its bad launch. So from their perspective, even though I believe both sides are wrong, it was deserved.) Outside that occult version of the Genshin community, a lot of other people were excited about the game, so you can only imagine the excitement/hype that was created quickly plummeted after they experienced the launch version of the game. Not many people are willing to pick back up a game after they dropped it. Especially, if they didn't even had time to build a connection with the game.
WOW, GTA online, Genshin....what do they have in common...they all had issues with performance to start theyre lives....seldom does an online game is perfect, its very difficult to anticipate the amount of traffic until the game launches...and even if one prepares, if it explodes the way WUWA did, then the issues will be more glaring
A lot of problems with the game are not related to performance. The story and acting bad . And that’s after today apparently reworked 90% of it. So much about the game that screams budget Genshin. It’s so disappointing that they couldn’t stand on their own feet a little more.
You people own expensive pcs and talk about hardware issue, it's kuro games fault for not optimising for lower end stuff and for some reason using unreal engine
I play on my low end laptop through my phone hotspot and all I had was slightly dropped frame rate. I dropped my settings, problem solved. I'm on medium settings. Game looks amazing, enjoying it loads.
