THESE WOMEN ON TIKTOK ARE INSANE 

"Beware of this dude that dates a ton of women" warns woman who runs an Instagram channel about dating several men.

the part that really got me is "adding another dude to my arsenal" like OKAY WHY ARE YOU MAD THEN? Why be so psychotic if you're just doing the same thing?

This is such a strange story. The girl was right about one thing. Women do tell other women to watch out for a guy. In this case, it would be watch out, he ghosts. That isn’t for safety, but so they don’t waste their time. The fact that this has blown up so huge is insane.

I live in NY and people dating multiple people at the same time is a very common thing. This dude should have been honest and upfront about this, but it's INSANE to cancel him over something that goes on ALL THE TIME in New York

She literally started by saying "added another boy to my arsenal." How is that any fucking different?

If you go on a dating site and you find a hot person just ALWAYS assume you aren't the only one. People on dating sites usually don't want to commit immediately after the first day too. You're an absolute weirdo if you think someone is only talking and getting with you when neither of you have committed to each other

I hate literally everything and everyone in this story. Fuck this entire thing and I wish I'd never heard of it

This is the kind of attitude that teenagers have at school. It's like there is a seamlessness between social media and reality that zoomers are actually having trouble differentiating how these communities work. Like maybe it's ok to expose the cheater boy in high school to your peers, but when you do that online it's just crazy.

Why do people love making their relationship issues a public issue?

hasan, the retired 80s detective

I got ghosted by a dude the first time I ever got on a dating app (funnily enough, also Hinge). I said “what a prick”, vented to my sister about how much time I’d wasted, then MOVED ON. Cause I’m an ADULT. These women are ridiculous, as are the spectators who played into it.

I just find it a bit ironic in her original video she said he didn't care if he "lived or died", used his actual name (could have used a placeholder), his place of work, gave the viewers his text messages, and directed to other videos to help make it easier to make him tracable because of a bad date, only to say she "didn't wish ill" in her follow up video once he was doxxed - I know being ghosted sucks but she and her fellow TikTok "influencers" completely blew it out of proportion, profited off of it, and now trying to excuse it as "keeping women safe" and doing victory laps as a random (admittedly dickish) guy's life is ruined while they see none of the reprecusions, which is a pretty gross bastardization of a real issue for the sake of defending their clout chasing actions. It's more ironic considering the original video also said she was "collecting another man for her arsenal" yet is condemning him for the same thing. Also, sorry, but these people also have no grip on the reality of abuse if they think him being cheesy on the first date or ghosting is akin to abuse. It's sucky behavior, but it's not evil.

Social media is the forever high-school shit show

The secret is communicating. You can date other people if you’re not officially exclusive. But you can’t be like we’re official and exclusive and then date other people.

weird that she's commenting about how a "straight white guy with a mustache" has the audacity when she agreed to go on multiple dates to begin with

She’s making fun of a dude with a mustache… but choosing to date him… and actively trying to ruin his dating life because her feelies are hurt…

This guy represents an idea to all the people who are jumping in. Everyone active in the dating scene has most likely been ghosted at one point or another and they see this as a way to relate or take out their frustrations with whoever ghosted them.

I love how she takes serious issues and somehow makes it equivalent to a guy ghosting her

And her going back and saying her first video was very raw and emotional is exactly the reason why there are some things that you should just keep to yourself or within your circle of friends. Not every thought or feeling needs to be put out there on the internet. Seriously, do people not even talk to their friends about stuff anymore?

Dating apps in general make people disposable and behavior like this is what the apps want. The fact that we dont realize this as a society by now is pretty bad.

"You need to stop posting on TikTok, you need to read the QURAN" 😂 I'm dying

I'm not even a muslim but I do agree that these tik-tokers definitely need Allah in their lives

The most frustrating part is how they talk as if only men ghost people and date multiple people. Saying shit like only men need to be better, men need to be respectful while they attempt to ruin a man's whole life. Tik Tok people be insane.

Good lord I am so happy that Hasan is popular. His ability to articulate genuine points of common sense on these cultural issues is astounding. And the fact that it’s literally on the fly in most instances is that much more impressive AND lends to his credibility. Being on twitch means he has no room to script any of this unlike old school talk radio hosts. Everything he says is from a place of genuine belief as necessitated by the platform.

This is so stupid and literally doesn’t matter. Drama, revenge, ego trips… is all such a waste of time.

Most of tik tok is insane lmao

That’s so crazy she thinks there’s no need for a public outcry, yet she leads a public outcry. she is nauseating.

this girl will now have more of a hard time getting a date after this lmao.

“I do Tik Tok as a job” There’s your red flag, ladies, gentlemen, and everyone between the binary.

This shit just reinforces my anxiety and self conscious behavior around people.

“AM I SIGNING UP FOR THE LAKERS ON A 4 YEAR CONTRACT, JUST CAUSE I WENT ON A DATE?!” Jesus hahahah 😂😂😂

I feel like the gross thing about west elm caleb was not the “juggling” thing but the fully recycled scripted aspect of it… like this man was taking these girls on the same dates, sending them the same texts, sending them the same PLAYLISTS in a manner that seemed casual and genuine… like that’s psychopath behavior 😂😂 the type of guy who not only lies through their teeth like that but also does the same thing over and over and pretends like it special and new every time is UNHINGED. I wouldn’t be warning other girls because he’s a “player”, I’d be warning other girls because he’s a full blown sociopath.

I’m so glad I met my wife and got out of dating when I did. I would not be able to handle these extremely online people, it’s so cringe.

What’s really funny is that NOTHING ACTUALLY HAPPENED TO THE WOMAN HASAN WATCHED TWO VIDEOS FROM!! She didn’t actually get harmed by Caleb, she simply found out about his history of ghosting and broke it off.

Women date around: not settling. Men date around: *the audacity*

In the 1970s we had The Campus Killer, in the 1980s we had the Night Stalker, and now we have WEST ELM CALEB.

Wait she’s mad she was added to his arsenal but she admitted to trying to do the same to him......

Bruh she legit says “adding another one to my list” If he’s lying just call him an asshole and move on, what do you get from attacking him like this?

homegirl ain't nowhere near as cute as she thinks she is lmao

I don’t think 3 dates is enough time to be asking if people are deleting a dating app. But I’m a older married women and dating nowadays is so bizarre to me.

Social media has normalized ghosting it’s practically easy to stop talking to someone you were interested in, no one cares anymore lol

Hasan is noticeably more angry and violent since having the mustache procedure (like when when Homer gets Snake's hair transplant and he goes evil) lmao 💀

She’s r/relationshipadvice and r/femaledatingstrategy wrapped in a sociopathic package

This is really interesting. I mean, no matter what, I would have seen it as bad behavior - publicly humiliating and doxxing this guy. But on some level, I think we've all become desensitized to seeing someone be publicly humiliated online and harassed (to the point of suicide in some cases). Like, if I had seen this as a news story, instead of on Hasan's stream where he breaks it down, I would have just thought "oh man people being crazy again." But actually, it's kind of analogous to the Monica Lewinsky situation. She talked on the John Oliver show about how prolonged harassment campaigns affect mental health, harassment on a scale that most people will never be able to understand. To be shamed, especially in the context of sexuality, so much that it stays with you for the rest of your life. I agree totally with Hasan that a lot of it is about the Internet, these platforms and algorithms giving humans tools that they aren't ready to be responsible for. I do slightly disagree that it's so much about "incel" and "femcel" behavior. Imo it's actually less about gender politics then you'd think, and more the fact that people love "justice boner" situations and feeling like an internet vigilante hero.

There are pedophiles all over TikTok, but this is where people direct their rage...

For a girl that "couldn´t care if he lives or dies" she really gives off crazy ex girlfriend energy.

‘healthy gossip’ is sharing your thoughts and emotions with your friends, not publically sharing private information.

I wouldnt be surprised if this ended in a lawsuit for defemation of character. As soon as he was doxed. She should be begging people to stop harrasing him

Can you IMAGINE THE SHITSHOW if a male TikToker tried to get a woman fired because she was seeing other men while casually dating him

I don't know why, but Tiktok drama is some how both pathetic and hilarious at same time.

Do people not expect people on dating apps to not be going on many dates with multiple people? Exclusivity only exists if you have a conversation about it first.

Chat is like that one psychotic kid who shakes any bird cage he sees, solely to agitate the bird in his home

"So I'm like, another dude to add to my arsenal, that's fine" So let me get this straight, she says shit like that but gets mad at the guy for dating multiple women as well or what

as a guy, I have been ghosted by women, but ya know what didn't do is post that shit to tiktok, I was kinda butt hurt at first but moved on with my life. I didn't doxx them and I'm glad I didn't.

It’s crazy how the internet called out Caleb like they're Mysterio doxxing Peter’s life in No Way Home.

Don’t get into a relationship with someone you just met. It’s unhealthy to go exclusive after one date. You need to take the time to get to know someone.

I also consider myself a serial dater but I don't blatantly lie to people about my intentions. We really shouldn't normalize douchy behavior. I mean I agree that these women were wrong but ghosting people needn't be a normal thing either. Basic human decency is an option.

He was predatory? pfff ... , and people who gang up on him acted like clinically insane stalkers.... literally a hate crime because he is a dude.

*Girl:* Nooo, you can't just do the thing that I do!! *Caleb:* Haha, dates go BRRRRRRRR.

i get such self-important vibes from this girl like she seems like she's reveling in being a main character in this story and "correcting the timeline from a primary source" .... askers?

Hasan exploring outlandish TikTok is peak internet content and makes my day.

“Praying on the downfall of this guy, I feel like that’s extremely extremely inappropriate” “I don’t care if this guy lives or dies” “Another guy for my arsenal” “That gossip kept me safe [from getting ghosted by the knotch on her headboard]” This girl wants to eat the cake and have it

As a woman this shit is so irritating. They act like dudes ghosting is a crime. This is like WOMN101 week1: The average guy is trying to get chicks to give em the goods as quick as possible, while expensing the least amount of time, money, effort, and resources as possible. Tinder and online dating apps have just streamlined this and made it easier for dudes. It is called running game. Ladies, if we, as a consenting adult women, put ourselves on easy mode via deciding to fall for all the generic sweetalk/game they run, and get our hopes up by immediately developing expectations for a guy we barely know, well we made that choice. If he turns out to be a total tool or jerk or whatever and ghosts you, it is not a crime. It comes w/ the territory of modern dating. Just take a mental note and do better nextime. It's not like there won't be more guys off these apps coming your way.

I just like how Hassan is slowly reintroducing the 70s fashion style via his secret agenda. And im here for it.

Why can she add to her "arsenal", but he's shamed publicly for adding to his? Common ladies, equality is a two way street.

This kind of gives an ever stronger argument to what I've been saying for some time: There is a stark, IMPORTANT difference between calling out abusers and calling out abusive behavior in otherwise average people. Guess which one shouldn't be handled in public? Hint: It's not the first. Everyone has toxic traits or has said some sus-to-really-bad shit before. Given that Caleb apparently sent them both the same playlist, I'd definitely say he probably is an abuser, but THAT BEING SAID: What benefit to exposing this stuff does this have to either the victim or the perpetrator? Him going on many dates with many women isn't even wrong; he's not their boyfriend, is he? So he has no obligation there. I'd say expose him for being sus with the playlist shit, but don't even do that. This is definitely a matter that needed to be handled privately and not with the cancel culture lynch mob in view. This is literally nobody's business except the people involved, and making something like this the entirety of tiktok's business (by doxxing him, which may be illegal) is abuse from her. That's not holding someone accountable. You know damn well what was going to happen to him. It benefits no one. This seems disturbingly simialr to something that happened just a few days ago in another community I'm in, where a woman and her mods got accused of bullying an autistic minor, and subsequently they tried to get her canceled. Initially, some people were calling her ableist and trying to doxx her and shit, but speaking as an autistic woman: There was literally nothing she said that was autistic, and in fact her and her mods were even EMPATHETIC to the 17 year old autistic girl being autistic. The person getting "canceled" showed all her receipts and even pointed out that she had apologized to this person. Keep in mind, these screenshots were from 5 fucking years ago, and literally the WORST thing this person said was call the 17 year old dumb. Not even to her face. In a private mod chat. That's it. She didn't say anything bad about her being autistic and in fact the girl had gotten banned for repeatedly violating the canceled woman's boundaries. And yet some people are still trying to cancel her for talking smack about someone who she was rightfully frustrated with in a private mod chat, as if these people haven't done worse in their own lives. I am so fucking scared of the future if this is how we're gonna treat peoples' transgressions. This is abuse, flat out. This type of shit should not be "exposed", and doing so is literally just IRL powergaming in the worst way. It's toxic, it doesn't help anyone, and in both instances they could have kept it private but INTENTIONALLY chose to expose the "perpetrator" for clout, attention, sympathy, etc. There's no accountability here, just abuse. I see a future where nobody is allowed to make mistakes, have bad pasts, behave in bad ways, big or small, and that is fucking *scary*. You cannot, as a leftist, preach for reforms in the prison system and second chances for people in general, and simultaneously advocate and participate in destroying someone's life because they said the N word back in 2003 or they used to be alt-right, or they talked shit behind peoples' backs, or anything. No, those people don't deserve to have their reputation ruined, especially since most of them probably have already changed. And guess what? If they've changed, if they've bettered themselves, it's NOT your place to shame and ridicule them for it. They've already held themselves accountable by changing. Let it the fuck go. And if you can't? That's a YOU problem, not a them problem. Especially if you don't actually have any emotional tokens in it, like all the people coming after Caleb or the girl I mentioned. It's literally not your business or your place to be all "shame on you".

I can say as someone who was very much anti relationship through my high-school career I recently just started dating after covid. I got ghosted and needed hasan to yell at me to get over it and be an adult. thanks bro.

Her mannerisms are the same that were made fun of 4 years ago when musically changed to tik tok and was full of cringy people

Caleb traumatizing these rich bicoastal women and ghosting them is hilarious to me. GOAT level troll

I'm only 24 but I feel like people in my generation have a horrible perception of what dating is. Dating someone isn't being in a committed relationship with them, it's quite literally just going out on dates. You're getting to know one another and learn whether or not this is someone you'd want to commit to. Being angry that someone you've gone on two dates with is also going on dates with other people just seems so asinine to me, especially when you literally start the video talking about how you perceived the guy as "just another dude to add to your arsenal."

When she said "StRaIgHt WHITE mALe" 😆

This is one reason im scared of trying to go put and date. You never know when you're going to find someone completely deranged who will seriously threaten your safety.

The irony here is this is standard procedure for college-aged women. I just graduated from ASU last year and a girl dating around and ghosting guys she doesn’t want to keep around is so normal. I have met girls who will set up 4-5 dates on Friday Saturday and Sunday, one guy for dinner Friday night, a fun midday date for Saturday and Sunday with a dinner date each night, and then at the end of the weekend they aren’t really into any of the guys so they don’t hit them up again. Sounds like Caleb is just hot and picky. I hate to sound like the red pill Andy, but damn, a guy treats some white women exactly the way they treat men on the daily, they go full joker. Edit: I’m not upset at women for dating lots of guys, that part is fine. If you’re trying to find a person to be in a relationship you may have to look through a lot of people. Caleb isn’t the problem, girls doing that aren’t the problem, insane people DOXing a person because a tik toker they like got ghosted after a few dates are the problem.

As a woman who has been single, in my opinion this is casual dating void of any commitment or clear expectation, in my opinion he did nothing wrong. He was respectful of the person he was with while with her. He didn't lie They met him on a "dating app" the natural assumption would be HE WAS DATING. It seemed he was fun, interesting and an obvious skilled coordinator. It's up to women to know what we are getting into and to have realistic expectations. It's a date not a marriage proposal. CHILL AND ENJOY THE DATE. DONT EXPECT MORE FROM HIM MORE THAN YOU WERE DOING YOURSELVES. For shit sakes.

“Serial dater” is hilarious 😂

something about a white girl saying "the audacity of a straight white man with a mustache" is so funny to me... like girl what does the mustache got to do with it. and im not gonna assume she's straight but she only talks about dating men so...

I do wanna say though that sending an unsolicited nude IS harassment. I've been seeing people say that he did nothing wrong, but sending an unsolicited nude IS WRONG. Should this have been on tik tok? No, I think a simple explanation to him saying that sending unsolicited nudes is wrong (and in some places illegal), and hopefully he would have been receptive to that feedback.

These women deserve jail

These women think a 2nd date is an unspoken contract for the guy never speaks to other women before and marry them unless the woman grows tired of them.

I can change her

Hasan looks like every young history teacher

Calling West Elm Caleb at 3:00am (OMG HE'S REAL) (TOO SCARY)

I feel like as a species we won't make it unless everyone touches some grass and stops thinking every mildly unpleasant experience is a true crime case.

This is my favorite Hassan look. Pure yacht rock energy.

love your take about how these people are observing personal relationships from such a disassociated external lens. this is what republicans call cancel culture lol

The comments on the article calling the writer a misogynist and equating being a shit date with historical abuses against women are really what makes me think I need to spend less time on the internet.

I date multiple women. As long as you're honest, there is nothing wrong with it. I wear a rubber, and if it starts to get serious with one woman, I cut off the other women I'm dating, well usually, they have already cut me off.

I absolutely understand why Caleb ghosted all of them.

Brands getting involved in tiktok influence drama truly is a US thing. I don´t think it´d ever happen outside of the US.

She's acting like he cheated on her after dating her for months or years. It was the first date, she's acting like she's in HS.

Have people never been on a dating app??? Like, the whole point is that you talk to multiple people and ghost the ones you dont click with

The problem isn't really the idea of going on dates with multiple people, it's the fact that this person was not disclosing it and in fact, lying about it. It would have been one thing if he just hadn't disclosed it, but he had lied and said he wasn't on dating apps and wasn't dating other people when asked yes? THAT's the incredibly shitty thing. If this was just about them going on dates with multiple people the outrage would be silly.

The only problem I have w him is that he reuses playlists pretending they’re made specifically for the person & love bombing when he plans to ghost them when he’s tired of them. HOWEVER that’s literally no reason to dox him & take it this far. If anything that girl is more wild to me. I loved serial dating & seeing other serial daters, now I’m in a relationship of 1 1/2 years. So like we literally only do it until we actually find someone. Caleb is just an asshole lmao

Bro these ladies wouldn’t survive a day on Grindr lmao

Starts the tictok and says " ANOTHER dude to add to my ARSENAL" lmao.

Remember when Trump tried to ban TikTok? Yeah, that was actually based 😂

Bruh it irks me that she started her tiktok with, "He's another guy I'm gonna add to my arsenal", and then gets mads when he's seeing other people

Caleb being a furniture designer is hilarious, his job application made him instantly attractive to every Karen in his area

I've been on the side of west elm Caleb before. it genuinely made me so sick I couldn't eat for three days. it worsened my depression and just made me incredibly bitter and angry. it was over two years ago and it still makes me angry that something as serious as a sexual assault allegation can be thrown around so freely. I just fucking hate it. I feel like I lost half my "friends" and my whole (at the time) substantial following on twitter. I still don't think "cancel culture" is a real thing but idk man it just fucking hurts. I wanted to be a political commentator like Hasan but the idea of it happening again makes me terrified. even if you're in the right no one cares. people don't want justice or rehabilitation they just want revenge

Sometimes it's appropriate to ghost a person after a date. The alternative would be attempting to explain to them what the issues might be. Other times, you have to ghost them DURING the date. Humans suck, and finding one who sucks in a complementary way is difficult.