Me: Well, he's not a jerk; he's stupid. Theseus: *Kidnaps Helen of Sparta while she's 12 and keeps her around in order to marry her when she grows up.* Me: Okay, he's a stupid jerk.
I like to imagine that stupidity came about following his battle with the Minotaur due to brain damage as the Minotaur got several good hits in during the fight.
Can I just say the new designs for Hades, Persephone, Aphrodite and basically most of gods that appear here are amazing, especially Hades, that new look is a massive upgrade, all those small details and small changes really make a difference (Edit) 😮 That, that is a lot of likes, thanks everyone
@@abbycollins I also thing Artemis is an improvement, from what I remember the old look was kind of generic looking, but this design is a lot more unique, I hope we see some redesigns for the Norse Gods
@@nromk Easy: Sony Pictures was probably fighting with Walt Disney Studios over who gets to make the most money off of movies about characters who first appeared in a [Theseus] Comic. Meanwhile, Paramount Pictures still holds the legal rights to make most of the money on movies starring or titled [Heracles] so [Heracles] never gets to star in a movie and only rarely appear in them. And when he does appear, it has to be under a different name like [Hercules].
“Hi! I was a woman before, but now I'm one of the strongest man on earth!” “Gee whiz! I wonder what sort of interesting plots ancient greek authors will give you!” “I die immediately.”
Thats myths for ya, whoever gets to tell the next tale continue as they want. Its like the original dc and marvel without any alternative universes nor editors trying to reign in. I can imagine someone really not liking her-his story (pre-christian transphobe? lol) because he appears to be brought just to be killed, and in a kind of mocking way 'oh youre impervious? Then you will be buried. By fir trees. By dumb horse men' That or 2 different authors were fighting for popularity. 'No you wont make a new and impervious snowflake!' - the biggest Theseus fan probably. Anyway the other one responded by having the great Theseus be stupidly pushed from a cliff. And thats probable the cause of one the most violent tavern fights of the classic era
Ah, yes, Theseus the Assless. In some stories, when ya boi was stuck to snake chair, he was GLUED to it. And when Heracles came to yoink him free, his butt stayed behind.
@@videogollumer well to be fair both Posiden and zues spend half of their time raping and kidnapping beautiful Greek mortals or goddess also when they are not doing that they interfere with mortals lives which Hades has not done that. (except for the kidnapping part he did that with Persephone)
That's not even sarcasm really, he doesn't have many competitors. It's basically him, Dionysus, Eros, Persius, Erebus (Nyx's husband, who doesn't do much,) and Hypnos (who spends most of his time sleeping) Edit: I might have forgotten a couple, but the list is small
Jake Doubleyoo is like the modern day equivalent to the ancient scholars of Greece and in thousands of years his videos will probably be obsessed over for future generations to come like how it is right now. I find it funny that despite the development of man there will always be a bunch of people who find an immense joy in history and nerdy things. As is the continuity of humans :) .
For anyone wondering, the Centaurs are indeed Pirithous cousins. Pirithous mother is Dia, and his reputed father is Ixion. But his actual father is Zeus, who had him in the form of a horse (?) With Dia. Ixion for his part claimed he slept with Hera, so Zeus sent a cloud nymph (a Nephele) with the shape of Hera to see if Ixion would indeed lay with her. And he did, so Zeus became piss off and killed Ixion. The Nephele cloud in question for some reason gave birth to the centaur race as result.
Ixion and Nephele had a normal human child named Centaurus and one way or another had sex with the mares of Diomedes that lead to a race of half horse half man creatures which Centaurus the father of these creatures called centaurs after himself
3:40 Amazing attention to detail, having the left side of Antiope's left breast cut off! It was said that the amazons cut off their left breast because it wasnt comfortable to use a bow with them Correction: According to google, it was actually the right breast that the Amazons cut off or bound from a young age, the left one was often kept intact for future babies to feed from.
@@geralttherivian3769 I googled how Amazonians used to make babies and I found some real wild shit lol. They were like human version of queen honeybees 😂😂
Suprised you left out the comedy version of Theseus and Pirithous story where Theseus lost his butt after being ripped out of the rock/chair too hard by Heracles XD
I'd really love to hear you explain the Argonautica soon. Medea is my favourite character in all of greek mythology and I'm excited to hear you explaining Jason's totally not terrible idea of sidelining his mentally unstable and extremely powerful sorceress wife in favour of some random princess
I love how your god designs and general designs of the characters have all become way more historically accurate. Its kinda funny because watching all the videos in order you can kinda see a timeline for how much you're learning the myths based on the designs.
7:31 I'm actually kinda happy that you managed to make a video about Theseus and Pirithous; I've been waiting patiently ever since you made a video about the cool stuff Heracles did. 😊 (Does this also mean we'll be getting a video about Jason?? 🤨)
I'm actually familiar with a different version of the story of Thesues and Antiope. That Antiope was actually her sister Hypollyta, and her death came when the Amazons came to rescue her and she was killed by her sister
Jake Doubleyoo, you disgust me. You have failed not only your fans who trusted you, but also yourself. I will never be able to forgive you for this. You forgot to put the relevant quote at 5:21
I know I'm late, but I wanna say I love the character redesigns and upgrades they've gotten as Jake has developed more in his skills and abilities. Its so cool to see the gods from one or two different accessories and colors to a full array of colors and culture-accurate clothing and jewelries. It makes me so happy ❤
The art and designs keep getting more detailed with every video and it’s so pleasing to see omg… like the new Artemis design is so nice + Persephone too
NEW DESIGNS LETS GOOOOO THANK YOU JAKE - we all sat in unison (I may or may not be re watching this solely for the new designs, and to appreciate the art each time)
just watching this and seeing the new art style and characters move their heads is so so cool to see, I love Persephone and Hades' new designs so much.
Pirathos: wait you’re back already? Theseus: yeah turns out my child bride and her stupid loving family made my dumb cousin king of Athens instead Pirathos: well at least I’m not alone anymore Persephone: f*ck that, Theseus is going to the fields of ash to chill for all eternity and you’re gonna stay on that chair Pirathos: dammit!
3:30 man another version I know very diffrent . In that Amazons also attack antiope because staying with theseus willingly, and Antiope sacrifice herself to save theseus
6:10 content alert: the next minute or so about Caenis is NOT Greek mythology, this comes from Ovids Metamorphoses, a roman poet who allegedly wrote this in much much later after the story of Theseus was established. Also, its validity has been hotly debated since there are no surviving manuscripts from the time it was supposedly written. This was a much later, possibly contemporary addition to the story of Theseus.
The death of Caeneus is depicted in Greek artwork going back to the Archaic Period, including one where his name is labeled: commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kleitias_-_ABV_77_1_-_compendium_of_Greek_mythology_-_Firenze_MAN_4209_-_56.jpg The earliest literary reference I'm aware of is Apollonius' Argonautica: "From rich Gyrton came Coronus, son of Caeneus, brave, but not braver than his father. For bards relate that Caeneus though still living perished at the hands of the Centaurs, when apart from other chiefs he routed them; and they, rallying against him, could neither bend nor slay him; but unconquered and unflinching he passed beneath the earth, overwhelmed by the downrush of massy pines." Apollonius doesn't mention the source of Caeneus' invulnerability or him originally being a woman, so that backstory _may_ have been a later invention of Ovid. But didn't use Ovid as a source for this video. I primarily used Pseudo-Apollodorus (and Plutarch, though he doesn't mention Caeneus).
@@JakeDoubleyoo right, I don't dispute that he/she was an original character in Greek mythology, but it does seem the whole swapping of the junky parts very well could have been a much later addition by Ovid. I just wanted folks to be aware of that part. But I mean it's possible, the Greeks were known to be very progressive with gender in their mythology.
@@A_Stereotypical_Heretic its not like they were progressive with gender its just that for example in the oldest know version of the story of caenus from Acusilaus it is more like a situation of "being a woman is so terrible because pregnancy (or rape in other version) that being a man is so much better" the fact that when men are tranform into woman the text portray it as something shameful
Yay, Jake noticed the timeline contradiction too! It used drive me nuts when I was a kid just getting into Greek mythology. The only way I could rationalize around it was that Medea was married to Aegeus _before_ the Argonauts, she then returned to her father, did the whole Jason thing, and then left straight back to her father after her little tiff with Jason. Which of course stretches the myths a bit. I eventually learned, as Jake says, to just ignore the timeline issues.