They almost BETRAYED Dimitri - Three Houses Trivia Pt2 

im thinking Rodrigue might've actually been accidentally killed by Dimitri or something of that ilk. from Dimitri's voice and dialogue, he still sounds like his 'screwed up' self before Rodrigue died in canon. so it could be a route where his growth failed to happen.

Yeah; Crimson Flower is the hidden path, you can easily miss the triggers for Flower, and the default is Snow. This again shows why Flower clearly has less work put into it. Hell; before the final mission Edelgard even outright says 'perhaps this isn't the path you were meant to take'. And to make it worse they could have easily stuck Shambalah and Nemesis as 2 extra stages there. Made even more painful in the Jeritza ending where it literally shows Byleth and Jeritza fighting TWSITD.

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Gotta save the best for last.

I had no idea that was true! Just wow! 🤣

Honestly I don't believe it... I think lucky crit just made it up for views.

@@lucky_crit one thing though. Felix was probably referring to Rodrigue not Lambert. He was likely planned to leave crazy Dimitri and try to defeat him after his fathers death. Dimitri changed after Rodrigue's death though so maybe that was added later?

I’m glad we know ferdinand’s full name now!! 😌

I think they first wanted to make a lost member of the Aegir house as Ferdinands Description being 'the oldest son' of house Aegir or something like that indicates that there is at least one other child. Then they maybe decided to make a DLC that plays during Jeralts time at Garreg Mach.

That’s actually really convincing.

My initial thought was that "Monica" would have been briefly playable in Black Eagles. Idk, just a thought that came up for me.

The more confident lines could be from a timeskip Jeralt, meaning there could have been a way to save him. The Sitri idea is a great idea though.

That would also explain why they made a special class just for Aelfric.

@Destiny FateKnight I'd love to see that or Dorthea have a support with Claude lol I also wish Dimitri had a support with Hilda because i can see it being funny lol

Yeah it would’ve been interesting to see how Dorothea would interact with a better version of herself.

@Destiny FateKnight I think that Dimitri would be oblivious more than anything. Unless Dorothea started to actively chasing him like the girl in the support with Sylvain. I am not sure if I would have put it behind her given her support with Felix.

I know it would take a ton of work, but I'm gonna hold out hope that one day we'll get a fire emblem game where all the playable characters have full supports (up to at least A) with each other. No more characters like Rhea in this game where she can only support Byleth, or Reina in Fates who (imo for no good reason) only has supports with Corrin. Like with Rhea, think of how interesting supports with Seteth, Flayn, Cyril, Catherine, Edelgard (maybe before timeskip?), Jeralt, etc could be. The lack of them honestly makes me want to write fanfiction for them. The fanfiction just being supports between characters that don't have them

Logan Miller I would love to see that timeline, but I’d also hate it as a person who collects all supports and endings...

Demiti should of said "we killed his killer get over it felix"

Felix: No, boar prince. YOU killed him.

a scene that for me personally makes no sense cause Felix thinks appeasing the dead is pointless and that the people worth caring about are the living...I mean I can understand Annette betraying the Blue Lions cause her relationship with her mom is important but the bit with Felix doesn't work for me

The Rogue Lord probably why it was scrapped

The Rogue Lord I mean Felix is consistently mad at Dimitri in AM. Annette is the one that makes less sense I’d say.

I summon Ferdinand Von Aegir in Attack mode!!

@@SmashBros2009 Ferdinand Von Aegir! It’s not possible! Nobody has ever been able to summon him!

@@devilshila5588 Oh god, I don't know why I needed your comment in this context but I did. Made me chuckle! Thanks. :P

I play Pot of Greed, which allows me to add 2 more Von Aegirs to my hand!

@@litsaber but 2 cards from where, under what condiontion, in what phase an--

Definitely would have been cool to see, and more hard choices would have really upped the replay value even more

Sounds like they were lying in the interview to me. There's no way that this _wasn't_ at least conceptualized.

@@ChoiceSnarf Aye. That's why a lot of us more believe it was related to time constraints. Nintendo let them delay, I think, twice? I don't think Nintendo would let them delay much longer than that. If they did allow them to basically go ahead and do "It's ready when it's ready", who knows what we would've gotten in terms of story.

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes perhaps an actually good Crimson Flower route that doesn't end in 6 chapters, has more than one cutscene at the end instead of those stills that replace them, actually has the freakin battle at gronder

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes seriously, it pisses me the hell off! Why the hell was Crimson Flower shafted in favor of the stupid church route? Why did that get more development? I don't want to play through a route that boils down to "gather up your forces and become strong enough to face the eeeevil empire" for a 3rd freakin time, a route that's 80% similar to Verdant Wind!

Great petspective!

That, and some forms of immortality aren't absolute, like the Night Elves in the Warcraft universe, LIVE forever but can still die in battle, among other example as well as artificial immortality, but magic, technology and of course magitech. Well, that's just me anyway.

Ya, in one route, I think it was CF since Judith dies protecting the bridge, but Claude talks to Nader in private so he could have easy called him by that name without any story repercussion.

@@illusionofquality979 It was in VW lol, where Claude introduces "Nardel" to Byleth

They should've made a roundtable conference scene and then reveal Claude's name there or just make a similar situation with Flayn and Seteth's paralogue where its a bit similar to what you said or who knows maybe bring in judith.

Seriously, it was one of the things that pissed me off most about the route.

If he was I hope they would've done something similar to Dedue where if you do a paralouge for him, he will survive.

@@silverman1205 wait he dies if I don't do that paraloge

@יוסף סטרימלינג Yes. He will die after the timeskip if you don't do his paralogue.

@@mrcat4508 *This is the moment Mr Cat knew, he fucked up*

yeah, especially because 3H doesn't have a jeigan, he would be available from the prologue to chapter 9, then die. boom

You are right. There are so many characters that should have been playable. They should have made Rhea the Lord of the Church Route in my opinion. It is so sad that there won‘t be anymore content updates since the game is still so incomplete.

I wish they added Jeralt. It would have added spice to losing him, the same way how people realize that they lost their main healer in FF7 after Aerith dies.

The game definitely suffers from an overall feeling of being rushed/not fully realized. And yet, everything that they did manage to put into it is so good that it's still one of my favorite games.

@@fledermausmann27 sameeeee 😭 if they ever did a definitive version down the line it could happen

@@rhettmitchell i agree!! definitely not the next fire emblem game though because it would kinda suck to loose all of the new game+ shit and also most people would have just gotten of the original so definitely would like to see it but later down the line for sure (:

Would have been great, yeah

There is a map that takes place in Sreng, which is north of Fodlan.

Agreed. This game is very tell vs. show.

@@safirev297 As well as in Silver Snow.

@@Cepheus773 All Fire Emblem games are this way, name me one that doesn't.

Like maybe Nader slips and calls him Khalid by accident

@@HinataElyonToph Yeah they could have done that here as well.

"You heard of Elf on the Shelf, now get ready for Thot in a Pot!" as Hilda tosses a pot at Dorothea. Dorothea gets up having grabbed the pot and angrily retorts "Well get ready for Bitch in a Ditch" as she chases Hilda out of the Cafeteria and down the halls of Garegg Mach "THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FIND YOUR BODY, HILDA"

Retro Nerd Gamer I think Claude would probably just shoot Dorothea through the foot

@@Edgeperor Hey I only set up a situation, whatever happens afterward is anyones guess /shrug

Agreed i would've loved to see their supports

I guess it was too much to keep in the game idk

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That would make a lot of sense, great point. Perhaps they originally wondered if Felix would take his passing a lot harder and despise Dimitri for it?

@@lucky_crit There is speculation that Blue Lions had a minor route split. Gilbert asks the player if they want to invade the empire through the kingdom or alliance.

@@arctic7465 Even earlier than that, he player is asked if they should invade the Empire and defeat Edelgard or save the Kingdom. It's possible that Felix and Annette would leave if you chose to adandon the Kingdom.

@@JordyFidis Which would've been interesting, as in that same scene where Felix and Annie were wanting to save the kingdom, Ashe and Mercie were more interested in saving Rhea. It's possible they would've left your party if you picked to save the Kingdom over rescuing Rhea, but there's not really much in the code to suggest that like with Felix and Annie.

​@@lucky_crit Felix says "So, the old man's dead..." It sounds as if he's _confirming_ it with Dimitri, like he isn't fully sure. That implies that he wouldn't be in your party when Rodrigue died, so he'd have left for other reasons. It's not fully implying it, but it does seem to hint towards it. As some other people in this comment chain have mentioned it seems like there could have been a rough split when asking if you want to go to the Kingdom or the Empire, but as stated in the video the devs said they didn't have any other rout splits planned...? I'm confused by all this, but it's interesting!

I agree. I am pretty sure that is more likely. I am glad this never happened thought since both Annette and Felix are MVPs in all of my playthroughs.

@@silverman1205 I made Annette a warrior in my current playthrough. So far, after 400+ hours of playing the game, this is the first time she's been useful at all to me. But that's how RNG works.

@@kujiko88 you you made Annette into what?

Hello! Have a nice day! Hey, it’s not too far-fetched, since she learns Lightning Axe and has the big Magic Hammer thing

@@Edgeperor god I’ve been meaning to try that on my next blue lions run

People definitely didn’t anticipate that the other two lords would convert them to gay

@@Edgeperor lol - unfortunately we can’t marry dimitri and claude yet ............. why is claude straight

I went blue lions first..

Honestly, I chose her first not because im a simp, well thats a lie but for Dorothea and Petra... But I love magic

why would you give someone a second paralogue?

Heck, they could just make it so that the already-existing Paralogues are the triggers: Felix's Paralogue could have a bit more dialogue, closing the rift between him and his father, while beginning to cope with Glenn's death. Not doing it means Felix will have a falling-out with Dimitri along the lines of "You're going to get us killed, and all of you are blindly following him, just like my foolish brother." Annette's Paralogue is already about the position of House Dominic. It was likely planned that if you don't do it, Cornelia takes Annette's mother has a hostage and is blackmailing Annette to fight on her behalf. 15:12 "There is someone I must protect!" seems to heavily imply that was going to be the case.

@@Videokirby Yep, that was my thought exactly.

It would hurt a lot specially due to how amazing Felix is

@@Videokirby I wouldn't say being buddy-buddy with his father but being to understand him *(or at least starting to)* and coping with Glenn's death would've been nice. A full betrayal like everyone is suggesting would just fo again a lot we've seen in the game already. But going blind randomly losing all your units becomes unplayable save making other units more recruitable AFTER the timeskip *("maybe" before as well but that's another conversation)*

Aye. Ferd is also not the only character with "von" in their name. Edelgard von Hresvelg, Linhardt von Hevring, Bernadetta von Varley, Caspar von Bergliez, Hubert von Vestra, Mercedes von Martritz, Claude von Riegan, Lysithea von Ordelia, and Marianne von Edmund. It's all over the place. The only nation that doesn't seem to use "von" as part of their naming convention is Faerghus, as Mercie was from the Empire.

OK yes but the joke doesn't work that way GOD

@@Practitioner_of_Diogenes Oh, shit! I can't believe I forgot that Leicester noble families do that too. I'll fix my comment.

I know. I am from germany. I even had a teacher with a name like that, and as far as I know, the "Von" is treated as part of the last name.

He is a ferdinand of quintessence.

Same. I honestly think all they would need to do is record a couple extra lines for Thales against Edelgard. The map already exists so I don't think it would've been too much trouble. But who knows.

Imagine they do add those "extra" chapters, BUT, the story leading up to those chapters is still the same. So you get a slightly longer route, but (spoilers) you can't use the Sword of the Creator, or Divine Pulse, or the Enlightened One class, probably. And possibly not Edelgard, either, since this is supposed to be a shadow war and she needs to be publicly governing her people. Personally I'd be totally okay with that, but I can imagine a lot of people being annoyed at such restrictions.

@@meganmartin3373 that wont make sence edlgrad wood nver not join the fight she wood when merry she tell byalrh togher you i willc rash the dark ones emahs he wood hlep you and dive plsue wood not go way sothsi has that pwoe rad fi moerry it she sothsi steel has power as she i come bakc to thsi wrold you so they wont rmeove dive plsues

signerleo snyder I’ve seen another comment exactly like this one from you, and I just want to know whether you’re 8, English isn’t your main language, or you were just really hammered

blue lions have op troops anyway though ;D

annette kinda suck whenever i play blue lions route. The only growth for her is magic. Now Felix is always my best unit besides dimitri and possibly ingrid cause i get lucky with ingrid growths.

I like to think that is accurate however there is one thing that makes me have doubts. Sitri was a fairly weak woman who rarely if ever left the monastery. I just don't find it realistic for her to have been fighting.

@@silverman1205 hey if the magic cup had worked as intended that might not have mattered, especially since it's implied she was only so weak because of Sothis' crest stone being too much for her body to properly handle

That honestly makes sense since I am pretty sure all the Smash DLC was planned well ahead of time.

They probably had him come in for voice recordings. I wouldn't be surprised if him as Byleth for Smash is in Nintendo's archives somewhere

The Ashen Wolves DLC was “3 houses and a basement” I think we need a “three houses and a road trip to meet Claude’s parents” now

Ikr? Shes our girl

Having to fight your S supported waifu would be oof xD

It was to go back to the capital in Faerghus, Fhirdiad to reclaim it or rush to the imperial capital Enbarr to kill Edelgard

That would be amazing because it would actually mean one of your choices matter with out a HUGE telegraph like Crimson Flower does.

I doubht it Sitri died at age 20, also we are told that Sitri was too weak to leave the monastery. So yeah I doubht this unfinished character was Sitri, but I can understand why you would think it was ment to be Sitri.

@@lordparma7556 Well some people were thinking that it would've gone along with Jeralt's unused lines where he is more confident and calling himself the Blade Breaker. Possible could have been something like a prequel before Sitri got pregnant. I have certain doubts about that too though since it is known that Sitri was fairly weak and rarely if ever left the monastery, so her fighting seems unlikely.

Actually, that makes a lot of sense, with a major crest of flames (I believe, I could be wrong, but didn't Rhea plant the crest in Sitri before Byleth?) And also having two affiliations, the Empire (possibly where she grew up) and the Church.

@@BlobOfAwe You're missing something; Before having changed the crest to be the Crest of Flames and the affiliation with the Church, the person was originally affiliated with the Adrestian Empire and had the minor Crest of Cichol. I believe the person was probably meant to be Monica at first (considering she was the one who was missing a year prior to the beginning of the game.) Also, she and Ferdinand could've both shared the same crest as we can see that Bernadetta and Hanneman both have the Crest of Indech.

Pshaw I thought crimson flower was the secret path

@@Farosh1954 it is. Stevie near the beginning of the video referred to Silver Snow as the secret route

@@Farosh1954 Crimson Flower really is honestly more like a hidden path since it isn't the default. If you don't attend Edelgard's coronation you are locked out of it.

Silver Snow is the hidden path from a marketing standpoint, Crimson Flower is the hidden path from an actual in-game standpoint.

SuperJimmy978 I agree. I think it was wise for Intelligent Systems to use the Villain/Anti-hero as the voice for lots of the promotional material. It was a secret to viewers that she would become what she ended up being, and it was even more of a shock for players (especially those who chose GD or BL as their house)

Yep

It seems very weird that bond doesn't exist in the game. They literally have been friends since childhood

@@joshuabrown6914 yeah. And if childhood friends wouldnt count as special bond, then Felix, Ingrid and Sylvain shouldnt have that bond

Ikr? They're CHILDHOOD FRIENDS! I mean, why would they NOT do something like that?

@@asieryt1635 j

I always thought it would be a good time to reveal his name when he meets Nader or in Claude and Hilda's support since it's about them knowing they both have secrets their hiding.

@@toastbread2263 Or after fort Merceus where he reveals that he doesn't want to conquer fódlan or Subjegates it but open it up for the outside world and unify it by Ideology and reforms.

Same, I would never let the RNG money making goddess die. D:

Same... I never let anyone die... plus I never use Anna.

Manuela isn't a curse word. Yeah, people associate it with jerking off since "mano" is hand and Manuela kinda equals "Handella". However, Manuela is still an actual Spanish name

Of course the funniest part about that is that the Fire Emblem is connected to The World.

It only makes sense that A- Aegir

I DO TOO!! In my fanfictions/fan comics, I always give Yuri a real name that starts with an "A." >w0

Nah, Claudia is a distant relative. His supports with Balthus reveal his mom's name is Tiana iirc

@@sageofanys3476 Speaking about distant relative, she might also be the ancestor to Judith, since Claudia was to marry the next Duke of Daphnel.

SageOfAnys I made that comment a day before I actually saw that conversion. Still, that story does line up oddly well with the while leaving to go to Almyra thing.

Same : ) wait, no. It's my most played game of all time actually

this game is the ultimate time killer in these trying times

Isn’t Timotheos kind of like Duscur? Same country, different culture?

@@Edgeperor Yeah I think so, but I wanted more of the other countries :,3

Beep Boop Hi :3 fair enough, but I think three “outsider” characters is probably enough for such a small cast

Yeah she even said "you shouldn't have taken this path, but you did anyways" You don't even know the truth of things like who you are or your mother, she only tells you "Goddess big bad"

What make it more sad that Edelgard did most of fire emblem three houses marketing yet she get short end of the stick in her own route

@@MattRogan28 that bums me out even more thinking of it that way.

@@MattRogan28 I think that was supposed to be the whole surprise when she reveals herself as the Flame Emperor

The Anonymous Me don't excuse them for giving Edelgard short end of the stick casue to me Edelgard's route was done in a hurry and they couldn't afford to delay game again Silver snow should been cut from game and added more content for Edelgard's route Both Verdant wind and Silver snow are the same with except for adding Gronder Field battle to Verdant wind and both route having different final map

Always having to make Ingrid a Paladin while waiting for her to get to level 30 is annoying to me...

It'll be a shitty move honestly, like if you don't go in the capital 2 characters leave when it's about to be the endgame

....and that's bad because?

@@floricel_112 Because I love the blue lions and I would be heartbroken.

@@floricel_112 Not really bad just sad since Felix would end up like Dimitri in all the other routes outside of AM. Dead fighting for vengeance, hits even more when he says the line Father, Im sorry. Kinda inferring that he was fighting for the dead, which is something he adamantly rebels against in his character. Would have been tragic but interesting.

Seriously, I wish taking down TWSITD was part of Crimson Flowers. I feel like they could've easily added at least that to it seeing as a map already exists for such a fight. They only would need to record a couple extra lines for Thales against Edelgard and Hubert. Maybe add in the fight against Nemesis too.

silverman1205 I agree. I love Crimson Flower as is, but I do get the frustrations with its short length. I’ve thought about it, and what if TWSITD actually betrayed the Empire after Arianrhod, and Byleth and Edelgard have to take them down before finishing off the Kingdom and Church, the latter now in a stronger position? Just a thought. I do believe Claude ultimately got the shaft just as badly as Edelgard did, though; his route has a lot more unique cutscenes, but otherwise it really is just a reskin of Silver Snow with the addition of Gronder Field and Nemesis.

Yep

Nooo, not Slytherin Eagles. At least give us the Ashen Wolves since they are clever outcasts that get in trouble.

@@illusionofquality979 slytherin can work for the Ashen wolves too actually lol

Nah dude, both byleths would've been swooned by the hot mama that is edelgard and would fight the world just to simp for her

@@bigpoop146 "hot mama?" where?

@@bigpoop146 you mean Rhea?

Haha it’s funny because he says that in the game

Actually Annette would be if you didn't do her paralogue map pre-timeskip

It is kinda funny actually because if he did not do the dirty things, then Nintendo and IS likely would not have cared about him mentioning his role too early. That is why we should always at least have the decency to be decent.

Change "women" to "people" and I agree with you. Everyone deserves respect... Until they don't. But not everyone reaches that unfortunate threshold.

Eh i think its terrible what happened to him. This whole cancel cancer needs to go

@@music79075 Dismissing people who speak out as "cancel culture" discourages victims from speaking out. Yeah, some of my favorite creators have been hit by this stuff, it sucks. I just want to enjoy the content that I like! I see it this way. On the one hand, sexual harassment or assault is unacceptable and people should face consequences for their behavior. On the other hand, the men and women who engage in those behaviors do so because of how they learned to view the world based on cultural assumptions. They act not out of malice, but mistaken assumptions or beliefs. Many men have internalized the idea that they are supposed to behave aggressively in romance, and is tacitly reinforced in media and culture. As in "Boys will be Boys." Have you seen a Sean Connery 007 film? Out of the context of bond being the protagonist, it's pretty rapey. When men overstep those boundaries, we tend to take it further because we think that is how we are supposed to be as men. Women either also accept that is the way it is, or are silent out of fear of retribution, along the lines of Harvey Weinstein. Which is why it's becoming more of an issue now. The more people that speak out, the more people realize that is not okay, the less alone victims feel, which then makes people feel safer to speak out. As I see it, Harvey behaved that way because he believes that is how he should act as a man in power, but that does not make it okay. I've had women casually grope my crotch in dance floor scenarios because they assumed that I am sexually available because I am a man. Again, this is reinforced by society, think of the teacher who literally raped her male student. The kid is seen as lucky or cool because he had sex, regardless of the fact that he was raped. Again, this is not okay. When I clarify that I am not okay with casual sexual contact, most of those women accept that and apologize. Sometimes they project that I must be gay. Under the presupposition men are sexually available by default, if they are not receptive, either they are gay or she is unattractive. These women behaved that way as a defense mechanism, not out of malice. Still not okay. Look at the whole Terry Crews issue as well, this is a pattern of behavior that exists beyond women making accusations towards men or vice versa. We can change the way we teach our children, but for people who have already internalized these ideas, some form of consequence is the only way they will learn. In silence, they will continue harming others, regardless of their intent. People don't change their behavior if they face no consequences.

@@TheSOHO92 you are wrong about a great deal of what you just said especially your conclusion

Thanks so much for always tuning in

Lucky Crit thank you sm!! you’re such an inspiration

There will be eventually! Thank you for coming back to them

@@lucky_crit Awesome!! Looking forward to it :) Thanks for the quick reply Stevie!