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Welcome to Salt Mines #43! Everyone has encountered a salty or BM opponent on the StarCraft ladder before. Send in your funniest, saltiest replays to RateMyStarCraft@gmail.com with “Salt Mines” in the title + in the body of the email add your IGN & Rank & Why you think your opponent got salty.
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@isingra
@isingra Год назад
Man I love seeing people snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. It takes real skill and effort to manage that!
@Gol_D_Rog3r
@Gol_D_Rog3r Год назад
Comeback wins are the best feeling in starcraft. Especially if theyre shit talking 🤌
@sergeyshpak9669
@sergeyshpak9669 Год назад
Feels good
@456death654
@456death654 4 месяца назад
I'm really good at that in chess
@nersh46137
@nersh46137 Год назад
MonkeySpawnX looked disorganised with the apm drops, but he's actually so good he has been able to insert bong hits into his build order
@m4kund1
@m4kund1 Год назад
Or did he Insert build order into his bong spree?
@Glorfindel_117
@Glorfindel_117 Год назад
Man alive, watching Veni fly all his Muta's to the enemy base, waiting outside, and then flying home for NO REASON while the enemy had no army was SO PAINFUL. Like there was what, 4 queens and 2 or 3 spores?
@fluffyfang4213
@fluffyfang4213 Год назад
I was gonna play devil's advocate on this because 4 Queens and 2-3 Spores is actually more defense than Veni had against those Roaches but... 1: Only one Spore was up at the time of the retreat and it wasn't really guarding the Drones. 2: Veni just started banking gas for some reason? Coulda had ~6 more Mutas out by the time the Roaches got across and that would have handled that eventually. 3: Focused the Hatchery instead of the Roaches that were right in front of them, thus prompting the chase in the first place. So uhhh.... yeah... I can try to argue he made a perfectly reasonable play by retreating, but only because he didn't scout, spend his money, or attack priority targets. All of which match the "I already won" attitude.
@glados4765
@glados4765 Год назад
Holy jesus what a throw in that first game.
@gcl2783
@gcl2783 Год назад
Love to see it when they throw the game then throw salt.
@abouttime2569
@abouttime2569 Год назад
Go play Tetris !!!
@ZerglingLover
@ZerglingLover Год назад
99% sure MonkeySpawnX was in a different salt mines video too.
@CFlandre
@CFlandre Год назад
He definitely was, lmao
@matthewneski
@matthewneski Год назад
Episode #26 and #37!
@britpoint7022
@britpoint7022 Год назад
MonkeySpawnX seems familiar, I think he's visited the salt mines before! He has a point though, everyone knows only GMs build fighting units in Starcraft.
@chyeeeeee
@chyeeeeee Год назад
Yeah he totally has been on before. Good to see nothing has changed hahaha what a beauty
@ZerglingLover
@ZerglingLover Год назад
He’s a recurring character. He was 100% on another Salt Mines video
@СерчеШме
@СерчеШме Год назад
several times
@matthewneski
@matthewneski Год назад
Episode #26 and #37
@ZerglingLover
@ZerglingLover Год назад
@@matthewneski oh, twice?
@mrv6554
@mrv6554 Год назад
For that first game, when he said, "u on 2 bases vs 50" Bingoking should have said, "I have a corner base" to mess with him. Great to see justice being served.
@Gol_D_Rog3r
@Gol_D_Rog3r Год назад
I think he meant 50 workers. but still that doesnt change anything
@chir0pter
@chir0pter Год назад
The NA oracle is an oracle so late you’re not expecting it 😂 as an NAer I love this. NA like some kind of drunken master Jedi
@BruderRaziel
@BruderRaziel Год назад
Just found your channel and this series and I might have a new addiction. I always enjoyed basking in the rage of gamerbabies, bathing in their tears and this really scratches the itch.
@Herold_sc2
@Herold_sc2 Год назад
About your theory: It's probably true that those people have nothing but winning in their mind. But I'd say insulting your opponent when winning comes from insecurity about how to end the game. You get a big endorphine rush when you think the game is won, two seconds after scary thoughts come like "how can i even end this" or "what if i still lose" but you immediately push them away and vent it out on your opponent instead to overpaint the insecurities
@hawianpunch28
@hawianpunch28 Год назад
Veni with a classic "chuck a zerg"
@TMOFApollios
@TMOFApollios Год назад
Ya know, when people get salty when vs the same race....it's like bro....that's the definition of skill difference.
@sircyborg
@sircyborg 4 месяца назад
I've only ever been called a smurf once, but it's such a lovely compliment! I know some people are just salty, but when you know you're kinda shit, somebody saying you're way above your level is nice.
@puritan7473
@puritan7473 Год назад
That first game was honlesty hilaroius - for real!!
@chrisk4010
@chrisk4010 Год назад
My internal monologue would be featured on this segment weekly if I ever let it come out.
@OccipitalVision
@OccipitalVision Год назад
Got my dose of funny salt. I think Hist should be the sub for sh!t from now it. 😂
@sc2youtube744
@sc2youtube744 Год назад
So satisfying first game
@theanticitizen
@theanticitizen Год назад
Man I feel so called out by that N.A. Halo comment sheeeesh lol
@totraspook
@totraspook Год назад
Okay that first game is actually hilarious.
@rafaelmehret5952
@rafaelmehret5952 Год назад
I loved that Elder Scrolls reference haha
@andrewquinn3157
@andrewquinn3157 Год назад
@SeriousApache
@SeriousApache Год назад
I kinda wanna see salt miner episode, where both players start raging at each other.
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada Год назад
Game 1: I just watched a master's league player play the build I stumbled into that got me out of silver league back in the day. 13 pool because I meant to 12 pool but reflexively made a drone, then as the pool finished I had 3 larva and 300 minerals so I made a queen and 6 ling, then it lined up to escort the drone to build the nat. That build got me from silver to platty, but then I couldn't do enough damage to that league with the 6 lings so I had to learn standard builds. Anyways, I never expected to see a master league player doing it.
@martinbjorses1958
@martinbjorses1958 Год назад
Would be cool to see prank series where a Pro gamer fakes to be a noob and after some time it is revealed to the opponent thanking for a good game and let them win.
@supajoofly
@supajoofly Год назад
Rest In Peace family rat
@sadgeman4589
@sadgeman4589 Год назад
I think Veni lives for the wins, so when he thought he had it and then didn't, I bet that stung lol
@nerdikles
@nerdikles Год назад
I find the mirror match salt to be the absolute best.
@Cleanpea
@Cleanpea 5 месяцев назад
To the question of why or how, people can be so toxic in a winning position, most likely, that is how they talk to themselves, when they are losing themselves and probably that is how they were brought up, by their caretakers. Beating a person like this, in a videogame, is like ecposing bad parenting and that is both bitter and sweet. GG
@Federico-1
@Federico-1 Год назад
A cool thing about SC2 is that you can’t enthusiastically learn the entire game. If there was a perfect tutorial to teach you every detail about the game your eyes would glaze over at the 200 hour mark no matter who you are. If you ever do stop wanting to learn, yet keep playing, you become bitter. Because you “shouldn’t have to learn **that** stupid part of the game🤬”(whatever that frustrating part of the game may be). So to succeed you need to stay curious, imaginative, and humble. So many things in SC2 are simply unfair (for a modern game’s perspective) and the grit it takes to remain willing to learn is beyond almost all other games. “knowing what you know and what you don’t know” is crucial for as long as the average player plays. Most people stop from the burnout before they stop from because they mastered the game. That’s what’s so hardcore about SC2 to me I hope that made sense i’m pretty sick rn sry
@ScoobyGSXR750
@ScoobyGSXR750 Год назад
The NA oracle 😂 didn’t know that was a thing, but I’m American so what do I know lol.
@TechnicolorMammoth
@TechnicolorMammoth Год назад
Lol, what is it Aussie back handed comment Americans week? I just laugh, because, that's really how anyone from upside down land could think they'd insult an American. You know we don't care, because we don't live in Australia, but it's just funny to hear y'all talk low key trash like this. Love you, PiG. You're a cute lil upside man, and I love you.
@CarterBartram
@CarterBartram Год назад
I haven't played SC2 since 2013, but how is it possible for someone to make it to Master league without using control groups? That seems so needlessly difficult.
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad Год назад
Honestly, if you just have a build order and can Macro decently, getting to master's isn't too difficult. And you get actual Pros, people who make the average grandmaster player look like their in platinum league, who don't/barely use control groups, instead reyking on boxing units very rapidly and keeping the game a bit chaotic to shatter other more "standard" players.
@Wade8419
@Wade8419 Год назад
There are actually some grandmaster players who don't use control groups.
@juny9445
@juny9445 Год назад
Saved me pig..needed some sodium
@PoeticJusticeSC
@PoeticJusticeSC Год назад
Funny video 😀 Though to be fair, smurfing is pretty common now. But I don't accuse players. I just look at their match history when I'm suspicious, and often see a series of losses in one second long games Its sadly way more common than it should be 😢
@ohmyonionpie
@ohmyonionpie Год назад
bro shoutout to Bingoking. a legend
@maximk9964
@maximk9964 Год назад
I can kill 80% of his base with my mutas... nah, I'll just ask him to leave, that's the play here
@josephfazio8577
@josephfazio8577 Год назад
Thanks!
@PiGstarcraft
@PiGstarcraft Год назад
Above and beyond mate thanks so much for the support
@Amoeby
@Amoeby Год назад
Veni was right about Bingoking not winning. It's more like Veni lost when decided not to go kill Bingoking with mutas at 9:00.
@lefreakingod
@lefreakingod Год назад
I just love to see bad sportmanship people lose!!!! such a good feeling!!!!!
@nickvlachos575
@nickvlachos575 Год назад
This is MonkeySpawnX's 3rd time on Salt Mines
@nnoam11
@nnoam11 Год назад
great as always, but I must say that it indeed looks like smurfing. you already noticed it at the opening. one doesn't have to be pro for smurfing, it can be also plat who play vs bronze...
@synka5922
@synka5922 Год назад
god I wish bingoking had dropped the "xd" after "go play tetris"
@Markfr0mCanada
@Markfr0mCanada Год назад
It's tough to identify a smurf from gameplay. Match history makes it obvious though. When they rack up 10 defeats or more in a row in an hour, that's someone auto leaving games. Pig, I know you say smurfs aren't common, but I beg to differ, and they were in fact the reason I moved on to other games. Here's how I came to that conclusion: I didn't worry about my losses, instead I looked at my "wins" from people leaving at match start. When anyone did that I checked their match history. If they had giant losing streaks in not a lot of time then that's a smurf. More than half my "wins" were to auto leavers. If that's the case then it stands to reason that smurfing has become a "everybody does it" thing which makes it self reinforcing, and that a similar proportion of my losses were to smurfs. At that point I figured I was in the minority by playing honestly and had two options: "When in Rome..." or move on to other games.
@chainsawfreak
@chainsawfreak Год назад
10 defeats in a row isn't necessarily smurfing, I've gotten 10 defeats or more because I decided I want to play SC2 at 2AM after being out drinking, or after not playing any games for two weeks, or just decided to play a 'dumb' strat on my main account to see if it can work, need to take a look on the build order tab for a few games to decide
@sakesaurus
@sakesaurus 11 месяцев назад
after seeing TAP grinds, go play tetris feels like a compliment
@333kenshin
@333kenshin Год назад
Tetris beats rock paper
@shupichii9647
@shupichii9647 11 месяцев назад
"Go play Tetris." I would, but youd just lose harder there kid. ;)
@itcomptek
@itcomptek 24 дня назад
This was a very sweet game! I just played a match against someone who did the exact same thing. They beat me in the end but why the hell do people feel the need to tell you to leave? its not like im floating bases to the corner of the map. You dont get better by leaving at the first sign of defeat. The guy i played took another 10 minutes to actually kill me. Then messages me on how delusional and stupid I am for not leaving the game when he told me to. Like, what psycho egotistical mentality do you have to have to act this way?
@rogirek3362
@rogirek3362 Год назад
Under-human is a slur. I'm an untermench, thank you!
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad Год назад
Damn. First game all he had to do was dive those mutas into the natural and he would have won. Easily remove half the economy, and then he'd never have had to face that many hydras, assuming the game didn't just end. But nope, lad decided to be a coward and pretend he had a contain.
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 Год назад
1st game was schandenfreude overdose
@enriquegarciacota3914
@enriquegarciacota3914 Год назад
VeNi definetly is still ruminating about that match. While playing Tetris.
@scanvil3766
@scanvil3766 Год назад
i agree with your theory
@EmperorMengsk
@EmperorMengsk Год назад
SALT SALT SALT! SALT SALT SALT! SALT SALT SALT!
@ssvensic
@ssvensic 3 месяца назад
How do you get to master without control groups
@LittleRainGames
@LittleRainGames Год назад
Probably masters bug. My friend and I play 2v2 all the time, we D3. The last 2 wipes he accidentally started without me, quit immediately, lost and got put in masters.
@johnornelas
@johnornelas Год назад
RuFF??????? that's a name i haven't heard in a long time......a long time........
@Ashley-wi4ng
@Ashley-wi4ng 5 месяцев назад
the last game was a smurf though, 70 apm lead and an actual build order in bronze is a smurf. my paltinum eu acct after 7 years of inactivity only decayed to silver.
@justinbiondi
@justinbiondi Год назад
I am so bad at this game, I cannot even start playing lol.
@chir0pter
@chir0pter Год назад
Calling someone a neckbeard is such a redditor insult, goes along with the smurf complaints
@lief3414
@lief3414 Год назад
"Who hurt you?" is such an unimaginative and at this point old response. Mix it up, ask them "Who stole your candy?" or "Do you still hope anyone will ever love you?". Tell them to repeat it in spanish or ask them where they live. Honestly even "no u" is fresher.
@dppsupporter5622
@dppsupporter5622 Год назад
seriosuly? u left a fucking comment to complain about what someone said in response to a rager? lmao
@jacoballey21
@jacoballey21 Год назад
I mean has veni watched pro tetris players? They have serious skill
@johnlocke4715
@johnlocke4715 Год назад
I’ve played many competitive games and they are all fairly toxic in their own regard. However, RTS games are the upper echelon of toxicity. It just attracts the worst kind of human on earth. I was talking to a friend who’s diamond in LoL and I asked if it was as bad in LoL as it is in other games and I referred to the amount of times someone has “hoped I got cancer” and he was like like “wow the amount of times people have told me that as well is insanely high”. Horrible, horrible people.
@Laezar1
@Laezar1 Год назад
As someone who has played LoL a lot, LoL is about as bad as it gets (other than, apparently roblox games but let's not talk about that). LoL both creates an environnement that encourages flaming a lot by being very competitive and relying on teammates to win ( which means 1) You always have someone to blame for things going wrong 2) you increase the odds of someone bad being in the game by having a lot of players 3) you create a lot of frustration when losing can happen because of something you have no control over) AND it has a lot of downtime leaving player time to express their frustration, in particular when they're losing cause dead players don't have much else to do than talk in chat anyway. It's like the perfect cocktail to cause as toxic an environnement as possible. Deciding to stop playing that game has been the best decision of my life and has genuinely improved my mental health noticeably. It's that bad. (and I'll not go into the in game mechanisms that make the game itself addictive meaning you're likely to play it way beyond the point where it isn't fun anymore)
@ledrash6079
@ledrash6079 Год назад
As a player who plays at the Asia server in diamond 2, and seeing apm of 250-350 every game from my opponent, i have to agree. Smurfing isn't a problem. They are probably just super weak in the mirror matchup with their 5-10% winrate and 80+ in the other two. And that every 5:th to 10:th game, the opponent just leaves before 5 sec, yeah, i do agree. :) (That Masters douche losing, aaah, that felt good, i really dislike the early ggs:ers) :D
@ledrash6079
@ledrash6079 Год назад
Just played two games on my break at work. Got smurfed Twice! Yeah, i bet they are just super weak in mirror match ups, and the problem isnt so big. Smurfing is the problem with sc2, not balance. EDIT: And when i called him out on it, he told me my mother should die this year. Yes, the game killing they are (yoda)
@jiayojames
@jiayojames Год назад
To be fair there does come a point where someone staying in an obviously lost game is itself bm, and I think that kind of sort of maybe warrants a question mark or something, but veni's game was not to that point yet (clearly since he ended up losing), and you can tell he was just on the edge of his seat ready to start gloating.
@lindalobstadefenda
@lindalobstadefenda Год назад
Poor argonians, getting shit on even in Starcraft.
@jdshi6693
@jdshi6693 3 месяца назад
I wish you would have at least acknowledged Red was smurfing hard in game 2. Blue was terrible at the game, but isn't that why leagues exist?
@artemirrlazaris7406
@artemirrlazaris7406 Год назад
Not entirely, true. The numbers to saturation do not exactly tell you the income distribution model... 2 drones per node of material is best... Optimal saturation, and then there is Full Saturation which is time, to node is 0.1
@mellamoelfra
@mellamoelfra Год назад
FINALLY FIRST ONE
@venificusmalatia4524
@venificusmalatia4524 Год назад
I am so sad somebody so toxic shares my nickname
@LoricSwift
@LoricSwift Год назад
? XD
@TheShadowgift
@TheShadowgift Год назад
to be fair with the pvp rager, it is quite infuriating when you're ranked gold or low plat and you play a few games in a row vs diamond+ players. not to the point of insulting the other guy, but to the point of just stop playing right away. i tried to play a few weeks ago after like 6years. played all my games vs plat player while being ranked silver. i just got fucked so bad every times that i don't plan replaying anytime soon.
@PashaSlavaUkraine
@PashaSlavaUkraine Год назад
?
@327QUADRACER
@327QUADRACER Год назад
GAY!
@ssvensic
@ssvensic Год назад
How do you get to masters without control groups
@ZerglingLover
@ZerglingLover Год назад
cheese can take you very far
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