I love the headcanon that Black Swan is here seductively interrogating Acheron and Acheron has no memory of the annihilation gang and is just going “Oh a beautiful woman has asked to dance with me okay”
She wasn't even aware of the trauma Black Swan was experiencing from her memories. Girlie genuinely asked to dance again and didn't realize her memories ruined her chances 😭
My mother used to take tango lessons with my father. You wanna know how she described the dance? And I quote: "A vertical expression of a horizontal desire." She's hilarious for that but what 😭
Black Swans English VA, Arryn Zech, is absolutely AMAZING I LOVE HER VAing SO MUCH she’s also so beautiful oml. When I found out she was voice acting Black Swan I screamed bro 💀 bc I watched her go from RWBY to HONKAI STAR RAIL???? Crazy she killed that 😭
@@BNutsshe did, not sure how that ended up. Regardless, and I know this is a difficult concept in today's internet, you can like someone and/or their work even though you disagree with some of their views
in terms of skill, she has grown so much as a voice actor, i say this not in a condescending way but a lot of the rwby voice actors were very novice when the show started out loll
@@BNutsIt wasn’t her bad mouthing the show, the director of the anime studio was accused of domestic violence a long time ago and she didn’t want to support him by participating in the show (I don’t know how true the accusations were). In the end she donated her paychecks from the show to domestic violence victim charity stuff.
I’m a massive fan of RWBY. And hearing Arryn from voice Blake to Black swan. Omg Arryn fricken kills it as black swan and Blake from RWBY (she my favorite character in RWBY).
Honestly, a heartrate monitor for this cutscene would have been absolutely amazing. I'd definitely be down to see a heartrate monitor stream for Honkai at some point if it's something you two are interested in.
so efing what? any one can dance tango doesn’t mean jack shite about some one sexual orientation or the stupid idea that they thirst for one another, need i remind you the ONLY reason Black Swan approch her for tango is to extract memories? like wtf are you lot so delusional for fictional characters that you become so rabbit over shiping them???
I don’t have any connection to this game or its fandom. The video just surfaced on my feed, so I watched it, got to the end, and said “well I can’t blame them, yuri does indeed sell.” Realizing now that there are legitimately people trying to construe this as anything other than two grown anime women hitting on each other is incredibly amusing to me.
@@RavenL1337 this was more about how i find it funny that the people who made the short chose tango, which is a very intimate dance, instead of something like a walz and there are people acting that you can't read any subtext from that, wasn't trying to pick up a fight online
I have a team already set up called THE GAZE and its Black Swan, blank, Seele and Bronya and im just waiting for mother Acheron. Screw the meta, we're all about lore in this household
Well there sort of is. Black Swan is a sensual, playful, manipulative character who uses those traits to get close and peer into peoples' memories. Additionally, she goes out of her way to indulge in activities for the sole purpose of creating entertaining memories to give to Dr. Edward. Moreso, she only says Acheron is beautiful or alluring out loud, possibly to butter her up and lower her defenses. Her inner monologue is more akin to fascination than attraction. That said, both characters very well could be a lesbian or bisexual considering the symbolism usually associated with Tango. If they are, I'd say it still takes a back seat to their jobs in their minds, though. If this animation is more than yuri-bait and there is an actual connection here... I'll be honest, with all the aggressive, violent, predatory imagery, I'm not sure I'm comfortable with this pairing. Not to mention Acheron CONSISTENTLY resists and rejects any advances Black Swan makes, even to the point of yanking her hand away forcefully at one point. Please keep in mind, this comment does not support gay-erasure, I'm only attempting to point out the deniable plausibility. My explanations could be considered "jumping through hoops", but those were my impressions on the first time watching this animation.
@@MitchFromFBSyour actually right but with shipers your telling delulu people that their gods don’t exist so they become rabbid, this animation is 1 billion % yuri-bait, there is an marketing plan of “shiping” making people wanna buy their favorite ship and how better to make some one willing to pay in gatcha that delulu shipers! and ofc we are talking about characters that don’t even fit as an couple not even the slightest but that doesn’t matter for shipers fantasies
So clearly the HSR team caught the first upload of Strapped In and was like, "We support this channel!" I was so looking forward to both your reactions to this, great chemistry here!
Given what little I know about tango, I believe the dance is accurate, but the fact they chose this quite intimate dance is WILD. Also, Acheron did said she is bad with memory, and that she prefers relying on strong emotions, and what's more emotional than tango? Especially that muscle memory could help!
"Dance is the vertical expression of a horizontal desire" has never been more true than today in this short. But also, as someone who HAS danced ... yeah, that's like a level of intimacy reserved only for your partner-partner. And not just your dance partner. Dirty Dancing has NOTHING on this short.
Acheron and Black Swan hardly even knew each other before this dance, wtf are you talking about? Black Swan literally used this dance as a trap so that she could non-consentually pry into Acheron's mind. Black Swan is a Memokeeper, this is what Memokeepers do. You can see throughout the dance that Acheron knows what Black Swan is trying to do, and continuously rejects her advances. She looks very disinterested in the whole ordeal. So then, when Black Swan succeeds and enters Acheron's mind, she's met with a blank void of nihility that starts attacking and killing Black Swan. After all, Memokeepers have no physical body, they appear to people only as memories. So when a memory enters the hold of Nihility, it'll start fading away. When the dance ends and Black Swan manages to escape, Acheron is still very disinterested in the dance. From her perspective, they just danced. She didn't see Black Swan nearly dying.
@@EnderBroadcastActually Acheron in game says she liked the dance and wants to do it again. She has no clue what the fuck Black Swan got hit with when she went into her head
@EnderBroadcast i agree with everything you said, but hoyo is also known to (in its honkai side) just gay-ify every woman as I've picked up on. That said archon also has a cononacal wife in every iteration so far an thats miko. BS is definitely not a pink haired lady unless I've gone horribly colorblind haha The tango is just an incredibly erotic dance right out the gate. Reading through a far few of the comments and going through the video itself makes me realise a lot of people have never either seen a tango or danced it and it shows.
@DragonHybryd Tell me you don't know anything about Honkai Impact without telling me you don't know anything about Honkai Impact. Acheron and Ei are based on Raiden Mei whose love interest is Kiana Kaslana. Who Miko is not based on at all. The one Yae Miko is based on is Yae Sakura and PE SAKURA.
ACSHUALY! Acheron is heavily inspired on Raiden Mei, who is canonicaly in love with Kiana Kaslana to the point of joining Mihoyo's Akatsuki to save her... so yeah, Acheron is undoubtedly gay, at best is bi and she won't even think of men as posible options if they are not the literal greatest hero in history (and even then she probably would cheat on him with sneak lady so...).
Lesbians Bi and Pan Women are feasting with that Short film. Hope they bring out something like this for us men interested in men but I am just happy for our LBP Women right now.
I love how the homophobes in the fandom look at this like it's platonic and can't possibly have any form of tension. They can't even come up with a good reason to dismiss this as such. I've heard people say "Tango doesn't have to be intimate," "Black Swan was just trying to distract Acheron and doesn't feel anything towards her," "There's evidence for them liking men so they can't like women," or even "Black Swan was attacked by Acheron's memories, she can't possibly want to be around Acheron again after that so there's nothing gay about this," or "Acheron is abusive towards Black Swan." "Tango doesn't have to be intimate"- Suuure... keep telling yourself that. Tango is an incredibly sensual and intimate dance that is often performed by couples. You do know what the devil's tango is slang for, right??? And it's described as a vertical expression of a horizontal desire constantly. Not just that, but even though you claim "it's not always intimate," Hoyoverse still chose a historically intimate couple's dance for this short. They made a conscious decision to animate two women dancing one of the most notoriously sensual dances of all time, with candlelight and flirtatious comments left and right. They could've easily gotten the point across without the implications of a tango if they'd animated a waltz. But they didn't. They chose to paint a dramatic, romantic scene, candlelit and tense, instead of literally anything else. If they didn't want people to think there was something between Acheron and Black Swan, they wouldn't have chosen to animate them in this way. Continuing that point, I've seen professional dancers look less intimate performing a tango than these two. They're touching in so many places at once, in such a way that if this was between a man and a woman the animation definitely would've gotten marked as explicit. Their chests are literally pressed up against each other, like you literally don't do that with someone platonically ESPECIALLY during a TANGO. They caress each other's arms and get so close they're nearly kissing. Even if they went into this with nothing between them, you don't just dance like that and feel nothing afterwards. "Black Swan was just trying to distract Acheron and doesn't feel anything towards her"- Again, you don't just dance like that and feel nothing afterwards. That's even proven by Acheron's voiceline when she's added to the same team as Black Swan. She directly expresses wanting to dance again sometime, and Black Swan even agrees in her voiceline. Again, if this was a man and a woman dancing in this animation and talking in this game, you'd immediately hear those lines and go "There's definitely more than just platonic feelings there." And again, even if Black Swan went into this dance only seeking information from Acheron, you can't say the same for Acheron. She accepted Black Swan's offer for a dance without a second thought, and immediately got into it despite it being her first time dancing with someone (as seen in the voicelines). Sounds like someone saw an opportunity to dance with a gorgeous woman and took it. (Though there is also a good argument for Acheron being aware on some level that Black Swan wanted to uncover her memories, but that doesn't take away from my point because she still chose to dance with Black Swan instead of rejecting her offer and keeping her memories safe.) Also, the way Black Swan calls Acheron beautiful and enchanting throughout their dance?? What??? I get that it could just be Black Swan trying to get Acheron's guard down, but again, if this was a man and a woman, there'd be no question about any sparks between them. That was very clearly done on purpose, and again, if Hoyoverse didn't want people to interpret this dance in that way, they'd have done literally ANYTHING but a tango in a candlelit atmosphere with the two of them practically all over each other, flirtatious comments included. "There's evidence for them liking men so they can't like women"- Oh my god, the biphobia is rampant here. Just because there's evidence of them liking men doesn't mean they can't like women. You're being ignorant on purpose if you genuinely believe they can't. Or you're just homophobic. Or you don't think bisexuality is something that really exists and you're only one or the other. That's just biphobia and blatantly incorrect, and besides, who are you to say that people can't experience attraction to both men and women? No one, since you're clearly not bi or gay yourself. "Black Swan was attacked by Acheron's memories, she can't possibly want to be around Acheron again after that so there's nothing gay about this," "Acheron is abusive towards Black Swan"- That's a whole load of crap right there. Again, Black Swan's voiceline literally responds to Acheron's when they're on the same team. She clearly expresses desire to dance with Acheron again. But even if she didn't, does it matter? They still danced in such an intimate way before Black Swan's traumatic experience with the darkness in Acheron's subconscious. Acheron is clearly unaware of her memories' effects on Black Swan, otherwise she wouldn't have offered to dance again sometime. And I don't get why people aren't allowed to ship a darker ship when it's two women, but it's fine when it's a heterosexual relationship. Fandoms love enemies to lovers, you don't get to say that ships are toxic just because they have darker moments with each other. You're also not acknowledging the possibility for growth in their relationship, like they could easily have a healthy relationship with time. And the abuse allegation? Yikes. Abuse is not what happened in this animation. Acheron's memories (and whatever the thing inside her is) attacked Black Swan to protect her memories from reaching the surface of her consciousness. It's honestly similar to dissociative amnesia or some other trauma response, where your mind desperately tries to protect itself from experiencing traumatic memories again. And yes, Acheron's hidden memories are traumatic. Her past actions have caused a ton of harm, don't you think that would leave some lasting marks on your mind? It's a visceral depiction that I wasn't expecting, and clearly the fandom wasn't either. Especially since certain people immediately decided that Acheron was abusive and thus invalidated any queer interpretations of the dance. Abuse is about control. It involves an abuser inflicting mental, physical, and emotional stress on a victim for long periods of time to gain control over their actions and get what the abuser wants. That is not what happened here. Acheron was not consciously attacking Black Swan, but the monster inside her was. That monster is determined to keep the truth hidden. It doesn't care about Acheron in a normal way, and it literally isn't Acheron as far as I know. Acheron also doesn't have anything she wants from Black Swan as far as we know, so there's no reason for her to attempt to abuse or manipulate Black Swan. There's just no basis for the abuse argument. It obviously stems from people misrepresenting what actually happened as an excuse for their homophobia. They don't want to accept that this animation of a dance between two women was intentionally charged with romantic and sensual energy, because they hate the idea of two women having that kind of relationship. That's it. Anyways. Love the reaction. This animation had me screaming for a week and I still haven't gotten over how beautifully made it is, let alone the gay implications. Lol.
When a RU-vid comment sporting _eleven whole paragraphs_ starts out with “I love how the homophobes in the fandom…”, I already know that anything after that statement is just raw psychic damage waiting to be inflicted.
Call me naive or what ever but when I initially saw this the vibe I got from Acheron to Black swan was WTF okay and went with the flow and just danced and she as she got closer her social battery like went f it and murdered her left after she let out her pent up stress
I would love to see you two react to the Bumbleby confession in RWBY’s newest season. They are the most adorably awkward Yuri couple I’ve ever seen canonized
Not gonna lie, Id be in Numi's boat going for E6 if Jing Liu wasn't getting a rerun right afterwards. Or I can just start selling my organs or something...
I do see the whole trailer as symbolic. The dance being Black Swan trying to sift through her memories, search out who she is as a memokeeper. They did hint that such a process was intimate in a way. And Acheron is playing into the process cause of how little there was to find, so she could sus out Swans intent. But the moment she was on to Swan about she was really after, she switched things around and showed Swan she had no control. And to best leave it alone. But hey, could have been thrills as well. Best of both worlds😂
Be so fr, if they were man/woman or even man/man NOBODY would be like "akshually🤓☝️" those ppl are so unserious😭 let's appreciate it's both symbolic/lore heavy and gay asf
whats so gay about an predator targetting some one for their memories? your really not mentaly there if you are so delusional, this is fan-service and yuri-bait, especialy between two characters thay don’t even know who the other actualy is, and you lot are like SHIP THEM SHIP THEM! they don’t even know WHO THE OTHER IS let alone an “couple” like wtf?
I have watthed more than i qish to admit this dance sequence, their reaction. That was phenomenal and a masterpiece... and the imagery was on point... And it was just so gay ..
