Thierry and the crew have a bit of fun at Jamie's expense when they find out how many goals he put in his own net. Stream every UEFA Champions League match live on Paramount+: www.paramountplus.com/shows/u...
@@josebahena4400 Exactly, thank you. I was surprised Henry didn't just say that. He's better off standing to capitalize on a rebound or a quick throw from the GK.
Henry was a meh pundit until he stopped caring and started roasting everyone like he did on the pitch haha. Murders you with that smile. But yeah, if my team win the ball back I want my best playmaker free.
@@Revelian1982 I know what is saying. But also if they mess up I want him free. As a respect thing you can look at it from Messi as magnanimous. A picture that can be shown to kids. "Even Messi did it". Henry is an unapologetic purist, though and has the right to be, so I get it.
@yogs I'm agreeing with you. Just because I'm telling you why Henry said what he said doesn't mean I agree with him. I'd have him either laying down or free to break quickly should the ball get to him.
I don't agree with anything Jamie says, but I 100% agree with him on this one. "Why not him" In this senerio, Messi has two options either stay outfield an be ready for a potentail counter attack or if he's back defending the freeekick, that is the least he can do.
How could you agree with him lmao. Messi should never be there. He should be ready for a counter and not only that but there is a risk of PSG's best player being injured. It was 90+1 with only 3 minutes to go so its pointless to have him there for both reasons.
If anything it is no disrespect if you have to do that job. Goes on to show the other players of the team to contribute however they can and motivate them. If a player of his stature is doing every bit of the job asked of him. Rest will follow suit.
@@shahbazshaikh2884 "The point Henry tried to make is that Messi should be in a position to counter if the ball should hit the wall" Did he? When? Post timestamp please! It's not what he was trying to say though, was it? Because if it was, he would have just said that. That's what you think. And it is a very good argument for Messi not being in the wall. I am in agreement with you there. But it is simply not what Henry "tried to say" at all.
Messi laying behind the wall shows his true character and leadership - “What can I do to help my team” regardless of what is being asked. Makes me like and respect him even more.
@@dixienormus997They're commending him for not putting himself above the team and doing what he can to help. Football is a TEAM sport. People like Henry wouldn't know anything about that.
@@jorge10928 I know, but why are we commending him for doing something so simple. It shouldn't even be a talking point. He's not above the team so people should stop putting him on a pedestal for no reason.
Carra is right on his argument. The only point against it is if you plan on having a possibility of a quick counter attack and you want your best forward free and... forward.
@@isauldlc-qj5qewell half space should be the position occupied by messi so that he could use his passing for counter nad someone like mbappe could run for the attack😊
I can't believe that Jamie Carragher was arguing about the league goals he scored, it was only 3 in his career, he should remember each one and not be any confusion
I'm happy to see Titi defending Messi about having to lay behind the wall but we all know Messi is humble enough to do that no problem. Jamie's record tho... lol Titi wanted to laugh so bad but held back n that was nice, I mean 11 goals scored but 8 were own goals 😂😂😂😂😂 poor Jamie
No one caught what Schmeichel said: "It makes him bigger in my eyes." Yes. Messi's humility is what makes him a better superstar. That's why I'm sure he doesn't mind lying down.
I think it shouldn't be a problem for any player on any team to lie down behind the wall but you can't have Messi lying down protecting behind the wall because if the freekick hits the wall and your team is on a counter attack with the likes of Mbappe and Neymar, you would definitely want only Messi to have the ball after hitting the wall and Messi will play that pass on the counter for Mbappe or Neymar to score a goal
But that’s the thing. U don’t think he should be because u would want him involved in the attack if there is a counter. Some people think that Messi is some sort of special human being that is better. He’s a better footballer so u task him wid privileges in football. Lying behind a wall is not a skill anyone can do it. Saying Messi should have the privilege of not doing that job because it’s disrespectful is funny. If it’s disrespectful to him it should be disrespectful to everyone. There isn’t a single person in the team Messi is better than as a person. He’s jus another player playing for his club. Fuck privileges.
@@alvaromorales222 probably because that is not his best attribute… if you said put him somewhere he could counter attack that would make sense but you have Mbappe in the team who is faster to do that job… if you can spare an extra man, use both of them
Really the reason you don't want him in the wall is cause you want him up and ready for a potential counter-attack. If the ball hits the wall, and goes back to a psg player, you want Messi up and ready. You don't have to make some privilege argument to see why he should not be there.
If the ball his the wall and goes back to a psg player, I want Mbappe and Neymar up and ready for a counter attack because both of those guys are faster than Messi
@@YoogiNation exactly. People in the comments actually had a valid reason which benefits the team. Messi isn’t better than no person that plays for PSG. He’s jus a player that plays for PSG under a contract jus like every other PSG player. Fuck the privileges. Give him football privileges because he’s a better footballer. Not a better human being tho.
The reason I'd never ask Messi to lay down behind the wall is because I'd rather Messi on the ball for a counter attack instead of Carragher. or instead of anyone in world football.
Carra defending styles is quite deep in his own area, that 1 of the reason y he have quite high numbers of own goals..however, v can’t denies that Carra will play all out for his team
For quick counter-attack, a player like Messi who can hold the ball, dribble & have good passing skills is needed... unless the team has no intention to score more goals.
got to agree with carragher. why not messi. Just because he's the best player doesn't mean he's worth more as a human being. he has 10 other equal human beings in that team. the way henry was talking was of an arrogant man who thinks the rest of his team mates are beneath him.
Should Messi lie down behind the wall? This is a difference in culture here. Carragher grew up in working class Liverpool, where the collective was more important than the individual. Individualism was seen as selfish arrogance. As a centre back, his job was to look after the team. As such, Messi gets no special privileges because everyone is equal. Thierry is a superstar legend. He created individual magic and genius and teams would look to him for their salvation. Thierry needed to know he was the best to produce the best. As a striker, he was the focal point and the team was constructed to give him chances to score. As such, Messi gets special treatment because he is special. Lying on the ground is for any common player and Messi is not common and shouldn’t be disrespected in that way. The good thing is that Messi is special but he doesn’t ask to be treated as such. He doesn’t need to lie on the ground, but he does it for the team. That’s a leader.
What titi and Kate are saying is right actually,i mean like come on everyone can say why not him and knowing the type of guy Messi he wouldn't even mind but the real question is why him? Cause as even Jamie say anyone can do that so why not put over there some player who has a less important role over there or is less known cause what the other players can do Messi can do everything but what Messi can do not many players can do, also just a side note ,it's also about respect ,I know what everyone will say you should think about how you can contribute to your team but if I have a career half of the half as impressive as Messi i would not be lying and would and someone young or not that accomplished would lie down there and titi understands that and is coming from the same place
I think it depends on the situation. If you're on the back foot, you probably want him in the best position to start the counter attack. If you're in the last minutes of the game, this is probably the best way he can help the team defensively and lead with example. That someone should have a privilege based on past achievements triumphing the best interest of the team however is nonsense and problematic in the long term
@@shahbazshaikh2884 u came up wid a valid reason why he shouldn’t be there. I respect that and I agree. Thierry Henry said he shouldn’t be there because he’s Messi. He’s sucking off messi so hard here. Is Messi a God? No he’s jus another player who’s contracted under PSG. Football privileges make sense cause he’s a better football player. Any other privilege is ridiculous because he’s no better than any other person on that pitch as people.
Simple solution, if a counter attack were to strike they would need skillful attackers to pass the ball or even finish. Messi can do both. Thus if Messi is defending it would limit the attacking potential. Counters are made by fast and skilled players. A defend isn’t gonna go up and dribble out players.
You shouldn't really have any attacking player lying on the floor there because you want them ready in a better position to counter attack if you get posession quickly from the free kick.
If the Champions League team on CBS is anything like the NBA on TNT, Thierry is Shaq winding everyone up. Micah is the instigator like Kenny, and Jaimie is somehow the Charles Barkley of the group.
if that free kick hits the wall and it sets them off on a counter. you want messi in the counter and not lying on the pitch. that's why you don't want messi lying there
@@BadBoyV1 Its not about Messi running. Who would you want to have the ball to start a counter attack? Messi. Probably sending Neymar or Mbappe with a defense splitting pass.
Messi is one of the shortest players if not the shortest on the field and he can’t jump all that high, yeah, you are going to lay down behind the wall.
messi just liked taking a chill, lay down for a sec take a breath. he plays god mode people, wake up. if I had god skills I would want to take a rest in the 7th minute too.
I agree with Carra, cause like why not messi? he being the best player in the world doesnt mean he cant lie behind the wall plus ik messi def did not mind
not for me, but not because of his stature in the game. Because if you win it back quickly and can get on the counter attack, you have your best attacker lying down on the floor instead of being ready to pounce on the attack. He'd not be much use in the wall as he's quite short and maybe they have faster players than him for the counter attack so I can understand why he was asked to do that job though. Kudos to him that he did it, can't see neymar doing it.
I'm sure Messi does not mind doing that, But, just purely in football terms he should be taking a different position in case the ball hits the wall and ends up in Messi's feet, With his ability, he could pick a team mate with one pass and it becomes a chance for PSG the other end.
An arguement could be made that if the freekick hit the wall, you want Messi ready for the counter attack with Neymar and Mbappe, I'm surprised he didn't just say that, instead he made it sound like Messi is some special human 🤦♂️.
Gotta side with Jamie there, he may be arguably the best player of all time but he's a man, not a god, should be helping his team out getting behind the wall etc.
The only reason why Messi should not lie beside the wall is probably because if the ball hits the wall, he will be in a better place to go on the attack.
Wondering why no one said that, but if the ball gets rebounded to any PSG player while defending a set piece, wouldn’t you want that player to be Messi, he’d be the best player to start the Counter Attack. There’s only 1 scenario where I’d like Messi lying on the ground while defending and that is if it’s the last attack of the match
PSG asking Messi to do that is not wrong in any way but dumb because he can do a more effective job at counter attacking. But then, it also depends on the score line. If the aim is to just defend their 1 goal lead then may be that was the better strategy because he cannot defend.
Messi is a forward. Defenders should be lying down instead, especially if you want to counterattack. It's great that he left PSG. They won't win any trophies outside of France.
