THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU BUY A FERRARI 812 SUPERFAST! 

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Enjoyed this. F12 is the 🐐

I think the F12 sounded better than the 812, and I like the looks of the F12.

when you said you need to be confident when driving the f12 i started laughing because i own a 599gtb and its really wild and raw..btw my next step is buying an f12 and keep my rosso corsa 599 ..these are the last real ferraries..thanks old pininfarina❤️

The F12 is close to being my favourite looking car ever made, it's my dream car, great video Mark!

With the F12 I always remember Jeremy Clarkson on Top Gear saying he loved it, but maybe the car needs a little less horsepower. Your review has proved that this seems to be the ultimate usable Ferrari, no need for its younger brother.

Front: F12, rear: 812sf. God that 812sf spec is just perfect, love it!

I respect power of 812, but F12 is keeper!

Two thoughts on this video: 1.) You criticise the sound of the cars - I am not sure what you are talking about, but I own an F12 with an OEM exhaust and it is by far the loudest and most "present" sound in a group of modern supercars (I drive a lot in groups with friends owning McLarens, 488s, 430s, R8 V10s and also a Performante). In a tunnel run I even once "shut down" an Aventador SV. So I am not sure we are talking about the same car(s). Especially after you compared it to mid engined Ferraris and mentioned that both of the V12s are not as loud as "expected". In my experience, it is completely the opposite (especially when considering how the 488 sounds for example). 2.) You say that the F12 feels "slow" compared to the 812. I once got the opportunity to drive an 812 back to back with my F12 and later on against each other on the track. The 812 is a stiffer car, has a faster gearbox, turns better, "feels" more agile and so on (question is - do you want all this in a GT?), but power-wise I could not feel ANY difference to the F12. In fact, I took a passenger (around 85kgs) with me while we were driving on track with a full fuel tank and the 812 could not out-accelerate us even up to very high speeds. It would have been quite strange, given that the 812 only has around 8% more power. I guess you mean that the F12 doesn't feel as fast around corners, but power-wise there is not really any difference. Thanks for the video, it was interesting to watch!

I've owned both. Here is my best attempt at an unbiased rundown/comparison: Speed/Acceleration: 812. Obviously it's objectively faster but it isn't just that. It feels noticeable faster at all speeds but especially over 100 mph it just keeps building insane power and the top end is far above 211 mph stock. Above 6000 RPM it hits another level and is mind bending. I had it for a few weeks before I felt like I could put the pedal to the floor -it just explodes when you do. Truly something else. The F12 is insanely fast but feels less "torquey" -more like the speed comes from the speed the engine is turning, less from the power it produces. The 812 also puts the power down better and revs higher. Both have more power than you'll ever need. Handling: 812 by a mile. Four wheel steering, suspension, more advanced rear diff, and traction control are far more advanced and like the video says it's just an easier car to drive fast and slow. The way the four wheel steering reduces body roll is impressive. Any time you floor the F12 you have to really focus to keep it going in a strait line because the back end is so twitchy. Bumpy road mode is a little better than the F12 as well, but not by much. The 812 traction control is so good that I took it out on completely iced roads and it handled it almost as well as my 4 wheel drive Jeep wrangler -unreal. Interior/Fit & Finish/Tech: Again kind of obvious but the 812 is a pretty big leap forward in quality, ergonomics, interior quality, and form/function. This is the way it should be with a newer model and it is. Everything looks, feels, and works better PLUS - no sticky buttons in the 812. However, there is something about the F12 interior that feels very retro-tastic :). It was introduced only a decade ago but kinda gives you the feeling of like a 1980's BMW M5 if you ignore the infotainment screens. Something about it is very aesthetically pleasing. Sound: F12 takes this one. The pitch of the engine is a little higher and screams a little louder -both from inside and outside. If you like your V12s to sound like an F1 car then F12 is it. The 812 has a slightly lower pitch and just a little more growl to it. Still sounds like an F1 engine but very slightly muted. Also the engine noise while driving the 812 is less present and I think that's down to improved cabin noise insulation. If you crack the windows in the 812 the difference is night and day and the noise is still glorious. The F12 cold start is better as well -deafening in a parking garage. Looks/design: Beauty truly is in the eye of the beholder but here's my two cents. Both have amazing road presence and turn a relatively equal number of heads (both shades of red, Rosso Corsa for the F12 and Rosso F1 2007 for the 812). From the side while on the road I think it's very close and pretty easy to mistake one for the other with a quick glance or to the untrained eye. I give the front view to the 812. It looks a little more sexy to my eye, even wicked. The rear view goes to the F12. The single circular tail lights with the body lines extending down to the rear diffuser is so unique and iconic -can't beat it. The 812 gets criticism for being too busy or less "classic" but so did the F12 when it first came out. Overall I prefer the looks of the 812 but only by a very small margin. I'm in my 40's and feel like it is a little more sleek, modern, yeah and like I said sexy/wicked. The F12 is freaking gorgeous though and as of now I would agree that it's a more classic design. Intangibles: Every car gives you a unique feeling when you drive it. The F12 a more raw, primitive, batsh*@t banshee of a car and yes it feels like letting your guard down while driving it might cost you your life -which is kind of bad ass. The 812 feels like a safer, well controlled ballistic missile. I traded my F12 in for an 812 and here's the best analogy I can come up with for how I felt about the experience: Pretend you own an F16. You've had it for years and love it. It was revolutionary for it's time and would still hold up very, very well in certain situations. It's a classic, a legend. Someone offers you an F22 Raptor which is basically superior in every way -it would be hard to turn down the F22 but you'd still miss the hell out of the F16. There you have it. Can't go wrong with either though. Much love 888MF, great video.

That yellow stripe won me over before you turned the key. Great insight into these two great V12 cars.

Been waiting for this one ....!! A great comparison and thoroughly enjoyable to watch. Great video as usual !

812 is THE best, last of the last front V-12 natural aspirated classic Ferrari since 1947. The rear-wheel-steering is superior than the F12 coming out a corner. You have the money, buy the 812, with respect of time, it will appreciate its value. If not, F12 is the next thing you can buy.

Nothing beats the 812. Period.

Fantastic video! Even though the F12 is better looking, I'd buy the 812, the RWS will make the difference when using it every day. And I'd buy it black.

F12, arguably one of the most beautifull designs from pininfarina beats the 812 design hands down. Just look at the comments below! The 812 more modern and deserves respect, however is a very high MSRP car , which seems to be depreciating extremely fast, that is it! some buying opportunities soon out there!

The videography is getting better and better. I really look forward to your videos. Thanks for all the hard work.

F12 better looking car

Hey Mark, Another beautifully produced video. Love the drone footage and lovely stills at the start of the video. I totally agree with you on Ferrari V12 aesthetics the older cars are more attractive. The F12 gets my vote in this comparison. Interesting also about your comments on the Alfa 4C as this car was much maligned for its driving dynamics when new (beautiful looking car though).

I agree with the title. F12 in either Berlinetta or tdf form is just timelessly beautiful. I’d like to own one for life

Killer spec on the 812 but out of the two I'd still choose the F12

Great production.....pure theatre and a decent presentation too...love watching your channel when you're not drag racing....

I don't mean to troll, but who short-shifted the 812 during the sound comparison? 😂

I'm not a Ferrari fan and would prefer a Lamborghini by a galactic margin, but if I had to pick one of these two, the F12 is a finely sculpted work of art and easily one of the most beautiful Ferraris ever created. With the 812 Superfast, it seems like they were just trying too hard to reproduce the beauty that the F12 has by design. The F12's front end, especially, is as pretty as it is purposeful and the headlights look better.

I prefer the 812 to the f12, I was never in love with the f12s styling. My favourite is still the 599, they look so elegant and understated compared to modern Ferrari's.

As a high school kid years ago …I fell inlove with the F12 berlinetta and became my dream car Seeing the 812 as the future of f12..I just can’t ignore it

F12 looks classier and cleaner but the 812 has 800hp and it looks menacing Tough choice but the F12 would be the one for me !

F12. Last Pininfarina with the right dose of scaryness. These beauties will skyrocket in value.

Drove an F12 on track. It was great. Then a year later I drove an 812 and it was amazing. A bit stiff for the road, but with the bumpy road button it is fine. A better car in my humble opinion, but at this level of performance it does not matter and shape is down to personal taste. Enjoy both in good health.

Great video. I can feel your OCD through the screen. Very well put and organised. Keep the videos coming! Cheers

Mark. A great honest review as always. Thanks for posting.

OMG, the intro is like out of a Bond film. Bravo on the editing.

My friend owns these actual cars. It’s a hard choice hence he is keeping the F12. Very powerful yet not too loud, very smooth on the road not as expected. He has other super cars in his collection as well 911 turbo, McLaren 720s . The Ferrari’s are the best...the 911 is very very close behind these.

Ferrari got the bodywork design wrong for the 812, the beautiful Roma is an admission of that. Mechanically though, it’s a absolute marvel.

Short shifted the 812 in the sound comparison and you red-lined the F12. The 812 definitely sounded better than the F12 at 8000rpm

599 is the best modern day v12 Ferrari...looks and sound...and most timeless looking in my opinion

I love this GTS ! The 812 is amazing!! Great content!! " both are eletronic limited in 211mp/h

F12 all day.....i drove the 812 last year and I do find it to be amazing....812 just a better all round car that I could drive everyday....but the F12 is just so much sexier and sleek..

Another classy production Mark. The F12 seems like reasonable value for a long term investment. I recently let go of my 430 spider which I had for almost 10 years. Now only left with my 911 turbo S Cab. The best car that does it all imo! Stay safe 😷

Sin lugar a dudas el F12 por todo en general…es de los Ferrari más bonitos jamás fabricados…una auténtica obra de arte.

What a fantastic production. I love these two cars.. but I have to ask you: In an era of roadcars with 1300+ hp and soon to be 2000hp EVs and hybrids are you really asking whether 800hp is too much? ;)

Both stunning specs - props to the owner. Out of these two I'd have the F12 over the 812 but I'd choose the new GTS for that open top V12 experience over the F12, if I could.

Good informative video. The flyby drone shots were great too.

Great video, do you need a car that accelerates 0-100mph in 5.8 seconds ? No...... but it’s the effortless power on tap that makes it so appealing, with loads of other things of course. 👍🏻

Enjoyed the video Mark, thanks.

I love Pininfarina design so naturally I own Rosso Corsa 599 and Bianco Avus F12 and I am the happiest man.

One of the main complain with the F12 was the excessively long gearing then fixed in the 812 with 10% shorter gearing.

F12 all day long

Mad love for the F12💯 Best sounding supercar I've drove to date❤❤❤

30 to the otherside of 120mph in 4.6 seconds in 4th gear?I think you are confused with kmh lol

Final Pininfarina designed Ferrari Love it in always.

Great video pal and I concur too much power on the road is useless and distracts from joyful driving. Beautiful Video material and screenplay. Cheers from LA

I plan to buy one. But I need trailer hook for my camping wagon:)

You know how much I am looking forward to this

F12

It's funny, I just saw another video before this one which said that after driving the 812 he understands why people were ditching the f12 for the superfast.

The F12 is such a great looking and sounding car.

I am down to 2 vehicles. A 1996 fully restored Toyota 4Runner and a 2015 F-12. At 63 I sure wish I owned an F-12 when I was younger and not nearly afraid of death. My daughter scares me to high heavens because being young she drives like ole dad used to. If I ever sell the Ferrari she said she would disown me. Don’t worry I won’t sell either vehicle. I don’t dare let her drive the F-12 without me due to me always saying Slow down! I don’t want to get the call “Daddy I have small problem with the car” yeah “It’s in the ditch”

Brilliant as always Mark! 👍

F12 for me.Love them.

The F12 is more robust and aggressive looking.. afterall both are in the Ferrari stable and they’re really really marvellous.. thanks bro 🤓💪💪

Couldn't decide, so I bought both. The 812 drives better.

Here's the thing. The 812 is marginally faster than the f12 (you can't notice it on the road) but is massively more expensive than the f12, and i think the 812 is over styled.

I still need to drive the F12!! 💨

Nice watch 👍👍👍👍👍

Front end and body lines of the F12 with the rear end and performance of the 812. Perfect....car....period

F12 with Novitec suspension and Fi exhaust is my dream of a V12 Fearrari.

Great Content, And yes both cars would be in my garage

He can't sell the F12, because then Ferrari will not let him buy the next special model. Not that that is a bad thing perse. Farrari has to make a decision based on something

great production.....your videos are on par with a cinema presentation...always enjoyable and great to watch...

Love your videos mate! Great 👍

Great video and great comparison, even if i think that nowadays this Ferraris are too powerfull and too expensive to be enjoyed. I will come back for more

Man said f12 looks better 😂😂 plus they made the 812 look bad in this vid

My take on it that yes it is worth the extra money. I bought mine new and love it

812 with an F12 Grill.....

Nice video man, but how about the tdf have you ever tried one ?

Both beautiful both Ferrari's I will choose the newer 812 for me!

Thanks for sharing take the F12 and put the rest towards a DD

F12 looks better from the front 812 better from the back. Id go w the 812 just because i like the back that much more

812 4 me

F12 all day for me. Superfast is an amazing technical marvel but for me it's simply too akward looking to get past. F12 is still fast enough, more of an event and by far a more beautiful car.

FWIW, I wouldn't want my expensive HP sports car to have an obnoxiously loud exhaust note. Its not a rat rod. Like wearing a Tom Ford tuxedo and sneakers. Tacky.

Ill take an f12 and a 1st gen superleggera pls

Really enjoyed thanks fella.

Who was short shifting the 812

would you be ready to give up an RS 4.0 for an f12 or a SF?

Great vid. Thank you. Been considering an F12.

Amazing content! keep it going! more videos like this please!

Good review, but your comment on the lack of handling or traction due to rain in Miami could be due to the accumulation of oil on the road surface combined with a relative lack of precipitation. In other words, no rain for a long period in summer usually translates to a slippery surface when it does rain for a brief period of time. I live in Scotland.. and know all about rain.. and a little bit about the sun...

The sound of the f12 literally gave me goosebumps 😳🤤

Next up for comparison F12tdf.

I would like the 812 better if it the front end was just a bit narrower and shorter. You don't notice it too much when by itself but next to other cars you can tell the front end is very wide from the front view and it is a bit too long compared to the back end from the side view. I like the look they are going with with a longer front end and a shorter back part but I just wish the difference was a tad less pronounced.

Great video! Where are these lovely roads?

I’ve always said it, I would take a f12 over any other Ferrari (except Laferrari) it’s just mean looking red exterior black interior with red stitching black wheels

599 is the keeper. I bought a 2008 new, driving it for 30,000 miles, no a single thing wrong. Solid like a tank, no rattling at all. Styling is still striking, turns head everywhere I go. Then I bought the 812 for its rear-wheel-steering and max power. It’s a keeper too. I skipped F12. It is just a nice car, less potential for future historic value.

I'm a McLaren Fan but the F12 And the 812 superfast have won me over !!! And just like the 720s warm those tires before hand. I'm just shocked that the newer one isn't as loud exhaust wise as the others.

You said that power wasn't the best thing in a car then end up by saying the 812 is a better car and included that one of the reasons is because its "faster" - makes no sense. Good vid though.

Love your watch ⌚️What is the make?

I need a f812 superfast

812🏎🚦❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️❗️