Think You Don't Want An Electric Motorcycle? THIS Is What Could Change Your Mind! 

6500!!!? I nearly choked on my drink when I read that. Forget a trail 125, you could buy a Yamaha R1 for that price, but hey that's just me 🤣😂

Indeed. With electric there is almost always a performance per dollar compromise but you do get benefits for that compromise. Critically maintenance. The long term cost of ownership is far lower for an electric. Even when accounting for that battery swap and additional upfront cost out of the gate. Upfront cost is a pretty hard barrier of entry but it is more fair to compare electric bikes performance wise to bikes that are cheaper. Comparing a 6,500 dollar EV bike to a 6,500 dollar ICE seems fair until you consider the maintenance cost, at which the ICE absolutely flies (cost wise). What I am getting at here is that when you compare EV and ICE bikes of equal upfront cost you are actually comparing a cheaper thing (EV) to a costlier thing (ICE).

@@SirNarax The long term cost of lets say a 125cc scooter is not that high… I ride a Honda SH125i (model year 2020) for 8.000 miles / year and my scooter needs a service at the dealer every 4.000 miles or every 6 months for about 120 to 150 dollar for every service he gets. So that’s not that expensive 👍🏻😉

​@@deanr125 Absolutely and that is a pretty good comparison. This is exactly what I was saying you should be doing and not comparing to a bike with an MSRP of 6,500. at 4,000 miles every 6 months and 150 dollars a service that'd make your Honda catch up in 7 and a half years. Not accounting of course for the price of gas/electric and the fact that maintenance of an ICE becomes more expensive the closer it gets to death. In 7.5 years the battery of an electric bike will probably start to noticeably decrease in capacity so maintenance costs would favor the ICE comparatively. However in that 7.5 years at 100 average miles per gallon at 3.50 dollars a gallon you will be spending 12,000 dollars on gas. Electricity isn't free either but it is more difficult to calculate how much it'd cost to charge the bike. But unless you live in a place where electricity is ordinarily expensive you can be certain the it won't cost that much. This is still a very expensive electric motorcycle though even being fair with its' comparisons which comparing this to a 125 absolutely is. You did what I was saying you should do with an electric bike. That Honda while being a little more expensive in the long term will have a better range, storage and is more performant. Also side note: nice bike. I really wanted a Honda SH125 when I saw it was coming out but I don't think they brought it over here. I am a little too tall for those types of scooters anyway though. If i got another scooter to replace mine it'd be a maxi scooter of some kind.

Electric?

@@julianskinner3697 nope and thats the best part. 130 mpg

If you find one the dealer will make sure it’s not half the price.

@@systemsevil1 yeh but its not future proof...

@@fbyi2940 What does thay even mean? Ita fully capable of doing everything I need it too

True, but one makes noise and runs on dinosaurs and the other is silent and can run on renewable supplied electricity.

Good luck finding a trail 125

@@purplepenguin43 honda needs to make e trail 125 or hybrid one

Yah Ariel rider is way better than this, the pricing is crazy stupid for this bike.

It's actually the $7500 with the KxH 3.1 bigger battery. It's $7000 with the 2.1

It is more fair to think of these as 2-4k bikes performance wise but with an upfront cost. Since the EV will be far cheaper long term. Not really fair to compare it performance wise to a equally priced ICE bike since the ICE bike actually is a far more expensive bike long term. It is still harder to buy just because that money will be saved later doesn't make that upfront cost go away. Easier to pay thousands in oil over years than pay hundreds today. And even comparing this bike to 2k-4k bikes its' performance seems shallow. There are EVs that can outperform it too (maybe not offroad though).

Again, Paul you are comparing a Honda CRV to a Hummer, this is a utility work horse, how are you going to strap 100lbs of equipment on a zero? This is purpose built.

@@nathandalleave252 It has very limited appeal with 30 MPH. The Zero With a rack can hold just as much. The problem is where can you use it? Maybe a campground of where you ride a moped? It competes more with a Yamaha TW200 or Suzuki Van Van They are more like farm bikes, but both can do 60 MPH and get 70 + MPG. This is a cool bike but to pricey for most people. As cool as it is the 2 wheel drive isn't as valuable on a Motorcycle that you can easily lift up and move. Rokon makes these types of 2x2 bikes in 200CC Gas and can tow 2000lbs. I think it's more a comparison of a front wheel drive CRV and a 4 Wheel Drive CRV.

Can you plug electric tools into it?

Why don’t you calculate the rebates and tax credits with the ubco 2x2

Kyle goes to a guy selling watermelons and says “yeah I like oranges better and they are cheaper too” 🤦🏻‍♂️ yup sure are! But it’s not a watermelon! Having all electric is completely different to internal combustion, you cannot compare the two based on purchase price alone.

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I don't call that snow. Thats more like an icy road.

@@patchworkrepair i don't call that "in the snow."

There are other videos online of them in the snow but that was the first one I thought of. 🤔

No motorcycle rider endorsement needed, just a standard driver's license for the ADV model to go on road.

It would depend on the state. Where I live there is no license or registration required for that class bike or scooters under 50 cc.

Rider and cargo is about 310lbs rated capacity at 30mph

I don't understand that price in USA as that's what we pay for one in NZ And as we are used to getting shafted over here the price doesn't seem to bad

But this wasnt built for mtb trails, try carrying +80lbs of farm equipment on said electric mtb and see how it goes where this has the ability to do that easily. Also this doesnt even have pedals so not sure why its even comparable. Plus most emtb have 350-500wh batteries, this is 2100-3100 so most alot of the cost is in the battery pack.

It’s the GREEN TAX.

It's actually the very large battery that is most of the price of the bike.

Because people will buy it anyways. Most use Chinese cheap components. I would never buy one

It’s the bare bones design that’s awesome.

Omg I was nervous 😓 lol

@@patchworkrepair it’s all good, I’ve been there too :-)

@@patchworkrepair Didn’t notice. Keep it up! 🤙

Check out Shanghai customs or the CSC Monterey Electric Scooter for a similar design.

Low key same (if you can even find one)

@@MmmmmmmmmmmMm15 there's a lot here in Thailand.

12v won't run an inverter for long