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Thinking Outside the Box to Get on the Podium, Big Horn Gravel Bike Setup and Power Analysis 

Dylan Johnson
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Just because a race is advertised as a "gravel race" does not necessarily mean that a gravel bike is the right bike for the job. At Big Horn gravel I had to think outside the box in terms of my pacing and bike setup to land on the podium.
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@johnwpotter
@johnwpotter 11 месяцев назад
I'll be 74 in two weeks, and age matters a lot in endurance cycling. So, I adapted the Dylan Johnson strategy at Seattle to Portland (206 miles). While there is very little climbing in this event, it is along day, and it was quite a bit hotter than usual. Even with little climbing, the normalized power seems to matter a lot with my increasing age. Lots of riders went by me until the other side of the Lewis and Clark Bridge (about 150 miles) and then ... well ... I passed a lot of riders and had a really good day for someone my age. I always appreciate the way Dylan thinks about endurance cycling.
@secretagent86
@secretagent86 11 месяцев назад
Remarkable. Bravo
@SeaCowsBeatLobsters
@SeaCowsBeatLobsters 11 месяцев назад
I hope to be as fit as you at that age!
@patbriggsmbr
@patbriggsmbr 11 месяцев назад
Age is no barrier. Live life, carp’e diem
@gwmtnbiker
@gwmtnbiker 9 месяцев назад
did stp with you this year. no joke about the heat!
@laggypirates
@laggypirates 11 месяцев назад
Always amazed at the pros talking about casually holding what is my z6 power for multiple hours.
@mikemazzantini6397
@mikemazzantini6397 11 месяцев назад
Agreed, I can hold 300 watts for just over 4 minutes 🤣
@marcdaniels9079
@marcdaniels9079 11 месяцев назад
Yup it’s mad 😮
@joelx77
@joelx77 11 месяцев назад
300 watts was once only achievable for a couple minutes for me. Now I can do it for hours. But I still weigh 97kg... Lol
@robertcatuara5118
@robertcatuara5118 11 месяцев назад
You and Vegan should do a colab race. He is all emotion and you are all data. The Odd Couple of gravel.
@Tilemason1
@Tilemason1 11 месяцев назад
I love Tyler, sometimes he could be the odd couple when he's the only one in the room ❣️💪
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 11 месяцев назад
It seems to me that they like and appreciate each other, which is really nice to see ❤
@MountainBikeAdventures
@MountainBikeAdventures 3 месяца назад
Tyler is a filmmaker 1st and racer 2nd. But still manages to kick ass in the epic races 😂
@oldkayakdude
@oldkayakdude 11 месяцев назад
Next thing you know he will start riding full suspension gravel bikes with flat bars! 😂
@phenax1144
@phenax1144 11 месяцев назад
Might actually be a good idea
@SimonSegerberg
@SimonSegerberg 11 месяцев назад
Specialized Epic world cup pro and just adjust rear susp. On the fly with lower rebound 😂
@ElonMuckX
@ElonMuckX 11 месяцев назад
Next Hybrid: Fat Tire SE Bike w/Drops - Mountain Beast Mode!
@jason200912
@jason200912 11 месяцев назад
The flat bars are too great of a disadvantage in aero
@playmoreguitar5393
@playmoreguitar5393 11 месяцев назад
Ah are you one of those that cant tell the difference between geometries? Leave people to ride what they want. Drop bars on a MTB are nothing revolutionary. Neither are flat bars on 'road' bikes. We call those commuters.. just ride your bike.
@stigmaxxiii
@stigmaxxiii 11 месяцев назад
It's bold and badass that DJ does not restrict himself to the "norm", it's whatever it takes.
@jorgecuenca9175
@jorgecuenca9175 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing your race outcome and for being considered enough to include metric system data for us followers from overseas. Keep it up Dylan
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 11 месяцев назад
Congrats on your podium, Dylan, you deserve it, what with all those charts and calculations and everything. And please blow our minds some more with those tire-resistance stats. We need the racer's edge so we can go faster than you and Tyler. And hopefully there was a vegan podium, too, with VC on the top step. 😀
@330_Crew
@330_Crew 11 месяцев назад
I don’t compete anywhere near the level of Dylan, just some local MTB races in sport class. But his strategy in the race reminds me of my more simplistic strategy - “ride your own race”. I set my Garmin to alert when I creep into zone 4. I focus on not exceeding zone 4 unless I absolutely have to. I know I have a small number of matches I can burn in zone 5. I don’t care what others do or if they pass me. I ride my own race.
@bgruber
@bgruber 11 месяцев назад
absolutely! it reminds me so hard on what my coach always tells me: don't start like a fool and don't finish like an wimp.
@stevenagy7152
@stevenagy7152 11 месяцев назад
The Race Kings are the low rolling resistance king(s)!
@maskedmotorsdiy3575
@maskedmotorsdiy3575 11 месяцев назад
Saw you fly past in the Vegan's vid and was looking forward to your report.
@durwoodhill2798
@durwoodhill2798 10 месяцев назад
Dylan once again demonstrates that elite level cycling requires a combination of exceptional intellectual and physical abilities. World Tour riders have "people" that do a lot of the "thinking" for them, not Dylan, he uses his smarts and his fitness to compete with (and be) the best of the best in his field: he does it all. Congrats on the podium Dylan, your "plan" along with your training paid off!!
@johnmoe3781
@johnmoe3781 11 месяцев назад
How can you say probably didn't belong on the podium because the strength of the competition?! You had a plan. It was the right plan. You stuck to that plan. YOU EARNED THAT SPOT ON THE PODIUM!
@cgmlcs
@cgmlcs 11 месяцев назад
This is my ideal gravel bike setup.
@trroland1248
@trroland1248 11 месяцев назад
Congratulations Dylan. I admire your scientific approach.
@plixplux
@plixplux 11 месяцев назад
Super impressive, congrats on the podium! That bike looks super sweet btw =)
@ronetele13
@ronetele13 11 месяцев назад
Congrats Dylan. An honor to be one of your followees. Fun too!
@teok7735
@teok7735 11 месяцев назад
glad you mentioned the difference rolling resistance and aerodynamics have on speed depending on the course.
@graffix11us
@graffix11us 11 месяцев назад
Must feel pretty good to have it go to plan like that!
@peterknight7880
@peterknight7880 11 месяцев назад
Excellent execution. Others may have had better power numbers, but that isn't the whole game. Well done. 👍
@kivriel2660
@kivriel2660 11 месяцев назад
Great video. Great result. Great strategy!
@mutleyadamsracing2684
@mutleyadamsracing2684 11 месяцев назад
Good video DJ, had I not flatted and tore my sidewall off Id have beaten you more than likely. Grotts and Brunr gave me 45secs to fix the flat before they had to roll off. Was bad luck for me and Im happy it was you who took the podium spot dude! Back to Europe✌🏽
@XCRiders
@XCRiders 11 месяцев назад
Your videos, supply us with much relief from the cravings we have for quality cycling content! Love your channel ❤
@blaze1148
@blaze1148 9 месяцев назад
for* otherwise this comment is a diss 😆
@MaxApartin
@MaxApartin 11 месяцев назад
Awesome , Dylan
@lolbubs11111
@lolbubs11111 11 месяцев назад
Congrats on the podium!
@airman8368
@airman8368 11 месяцев назад
Well done, Dylan.
@tgoods5049
@tgoods5049 11 месяцев назад
Amazing result, Dylan! Your curiosity and willingness to step outside the box for bike setup and pacing really shined on this one!
@Rafael-vu2xn
@Rafael-vu2xn 11 месяцев назад
Congrats and thx for the video!
@mattcraven2546
@mattcraven2546 11 месяцев назад
Congrats on the podium! Absolutely love all of the thought and planning that you put into your races!
@Jeffmcoyle
@Jeffmcoyle 11 месяцев назад
Really great video. So awesome to be alone for the ride at the pointy end of the race. Great info and analysis.
@michaelstoecker4178
@michaelstoecker4178 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting, and as usual very entertaining. Thanks, Dylan.
@NeonGrayEdits
@NeonGrayEdits 11 месяцев назад
So cool when it all comes together. Nice work dude 🤙🏻. Great video btw.
@wi11ow13
@wi11ow13 11 месяцев назад
Love the videos of your racing, and love the explanation of how you implement your strategy. Thank you. 🤩👍🏻
@DilbertMuc
@DilbertMuc 11 месяцев назад
Good to see that you have included metric systems as well! Now I in Europe can understand what you are talking about and suddenly it all makes sense. Thanks and congrats to your 3rd place. Your power levels are insane... 😅
@_xnk7257
@_xnk7257 11 месяцев назад
Great breakdown as usual!
@darrelljones6864
@darrelljones6864 11 месяцев назад
Great effort Dylan, well done on your 3rd place, enjoy your videos
@ekimviewmaster5010
@ekimviewmaster5010 11 месяцев назад
Great work and strategy. Congrats...this looked like a beast of a course. 👍
@michaelhotten752
@michaelhotten752 11 месяцев назад
Another great deep dive into setup, planning, and execution. Looking forward to the Bike video and seeing you in Leadville.
@pej0s
@pej0s 3 дня назад
I love your sense of humor
@lenolenoleno
@lenolenoleno 11 месяцев назад
Love the coverage of your race as always + tidbits of gear optimisation backed up with logic/facts. Congrats on the result. Hope your fantastic season continues!
@Team81MTB
@Team81MTB 11 месяцев назад
Awesome strategy Dylan. Work smarter so you can work harder.
@GerardEncabo
@GerardEncabo 11 месяцев назад
You can't believe how much I enjoy your overthinking shit 🤓 Love your content, Dylan. Stay nerdy, stay funny
@mikewikstrom3416
@mikewikstrom3416 11 месяцев назад
Great job in the race and I love the strategy and altitude analysis. I’m going to use this info for pacing at my first Leadville attempt this week.
@paddlestandingup
@paddlestandingup 6 месяцев назад
Looking forward to the full build video on this one. Very interesting!
@jeffreythompson6282
@jeffreythompson6282 11 месяцев назад
I run 2.2" race kings on my gravel bike when I do a rough ride (still ridged fork though). I can confirm they are fast. Transforms the feel of the bike, sooo much more confident in the dirt.
@marshallalbritton9521
@marshallalbritton9521 10 месяцев назад
Great video!!! Can’t believe you share all your secrets and plan so openly.
@againthebegin
@againthebegin 11 месяцев назад
This was your best work.
@Jazzysoda
@Jazzysoda 11 месяцев назад
Really enjoyed this vid D - they're always good but this one took the Geek Factor to a whole new level while still offering great footage and fun factor - glad you hit the podium!
@towhee7472
@towhee7472 11 месяцев назад
Great video, as usual!
@mickelkobeck7376
@mickelkobeck7376 10 месяцев назад
I've said it more than once....BHD deserves his own Channel
@GSmith215
@GSmith215 11 месяцев назад
Awesome job !!
@georgehugh3455
@georgehugh3455 11 месяцев назад
Congratulations on the Podium finish, Dylan!! 👍
@LuffLab
@LuffLab 11 месяцев назад
Great job!! 🎉
@Tilemason1
@Tilemason1 11 месяцев назад
You just built John Tomac's Monstercrosser
@gerrysecure5874
@gerrysecure5874 11 месяцев назад
Love this vid. Especially the pacing in altitude part. I prepare for alpine brevet with similar dist/climb and I was thinking about my pacing. What surprises me most is that even pro's and semi pro's seem to go by adrenaline and make this kind of errors routinely.
@quacker998
@quacker998 11 месяцев назад
Great job racing! And the bike is mint
@johannesgruber9050
@johannesgruber9050 11 месяцев назад
Congrats!
@LeeLee-nc7xj
@LeeLee-nc7xj 11 месяцев назад
I need that back ground in my life! As always, great video.
@alexprice5691
@alexprice5691 7 месяцев назад
As ever, thank you so much for your insights🙏 Love how you apply this divergent thinking to cycling.
@RageForSeven
@RageForSeven 11 месяцев назад
it was only a question of time before this happens, nice to see someone has tried it and succeeded, well done. Also your strategy to get "dropped" is very similar to the F1 strategies of the 80s when they used to run huge turbo on small engines. Top contenders would use their turbo as little as possible to save fuel and then hammer the last "part" of the race, maximizing everything and leave people in their dust thanks to better fuel / turbo / engine management.
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 11 месяцев назад
Glad to see someone finding a link between gravel bicycle racing and 1000hp turbo era F1 👏😂 thank you this comment made my day. I love old F1. 1986 was the peak of F1 turbo awesomeness/insanity depending on how you look at it.
@RageForSeven
@RageForSeven 11 месяцев назад
@@brianmessemer2973 thanks, i admit it is a bit far fetched, but somehow this comparison made sense when i wrote it!! and i do agree, 1L engine with a huge turbo doing 1000hp on nitro methanol engine was awesome!! Bring back p*rn moustaches in F1!!
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 11 месяцев назад
@@RageForSeven 😂 right on 👍
@dagondon
@dagondon 11 месяцев назад
Awesome! Congratulations.
@banjomechanic
@banjomechanic 11 месяцев назад
Congratulations on 3rd! And thanks for the sound advice. Discipline to stay within limits pays off! One of my bikes is an old Gary Fisher mountain bike with drop bars, all rigid, sram nx, but 26s still. Dope as hell to ride out on the gravel and great on the local mountain bike trails. Happy trails to you!
@huges84
@huges84 10 месяцев назад
I would think with these pie plate cassettes that your derailleur must be very close to the ground with those 26” wheels. Keep that in mind and be sure to ride with a spare derailleur hangar. Not hating, just saying. Enjoy the ride
@elliottsloan107
@elliottsloan107 11 месяцев назад
Insightful advice 🖖
@blaquaman1739
@blaquaman1739 9 месяцев назад
I’m glad you made this video because I’ve been thinking about putting drop bars on a beach cruiser 🤔
@stevenlevitz8895
@stevenlevitz8895 11 месяцев назад
Introducing…the Factor Frankenbike!
@plixplux
@plixplux 11 месяцев назад
Infused with only the finest of cheetah blood
@RLucas82
@RLucas82 11 месяцев назад
I would love to see Backward Cap Dylan bloopers someday 🤣 how do you keep a straight face saying the #### he says?
@kenwall8003
@kenwall8003 11 месяцев назад
"Trade grass clippings " I'm dead ! 🤣🤣
@aidan4811
@aidan4811 11 месяцев назад
Great Job 👏
@iShredder12
@iShredder12 11 месяцев назад
Brilliant analysis! This directly translates to my experiences with RuleOfThree in Bentonville AR. 100mi of singletrack/gravel/tarmac. First 2 years done on a gravel bike, but setup a lightweight hardtail with the same raceking tires shown in this video. The transition to a MTB made the technical singletrack SO much more enjoyable! Once in a pace line of other riders, the road sections were not unbearable
@eszterdomina
@eszterdomina Месяц назад
Very useful! Learning a lot every time! Thank you very much and congratulations again 😊🎉🎉🎉
@Souzaphotos
@Souzaphotos 11 месяцев назад
Love the bike and the strat... damn!
@potgieterares
@potgieterares 11 месяцев назад
Nice new background Dylan
@Mikadobiscuits
@Mikadobiscuits 11 месяцев назад
Funny & informative video but your editing here was 👌
@jamescarlphotography4523
@jamescarlphotography4523 11 месяцев назад
Modern day Johnny T with drops and a fork on MTB frame. Congrats on the result!
@lordalfa600
@lordalfa600 11 месяцев назад
Very Team Sky style strategies when they started racing with power meters.
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 11 месяцев назад
8:46 got me good 😂 that photo of VC was meant for this BHD roast 🔥 I watched his video (🔥) last week and was looking forward to seeing your perspective. You’re a good teacher, the tire width/speed discussion was easy to understand 👍
@brianmessemer2973
@brianmessemer2973 11 месяцев назад
Also congrats on the podium 🥉 that’s fantastic!
@budycelyn
@budycelyn 11 месяцев назад
i wonder how many of the "big hitters" will be following this strategy next year, seemed to work good at this race
@alolympic
@alolympic 11 месяцев назад
Good job. You absolutely nailed that one with your strategy. Proving it’s your brain that pushes the pedals. I run a carbon xc frame with the same tyres as you. But a rigid suspension corrected fork. You should try that set up next. Sane weight as a gravel bike.
@koreystephens
@koreystephens 11 месяцев назад
0:56 Omg. Nederland Gravel 2022 was a mountain bike race for sure. It was insane.
@anthonyharris483
@anthonyharris483 11 месяцев назад
I converted my old 26er Titanium Diamondback Axis Pro to full 650b, drop bar, 1x setup, carbon fork, Vittoria Mezcal 2.1 tires, etc and it is awesome.
@chasepalpatine170
@chasepalpatine170 11 месяцев назад
Will try this in the Chino Grinder in September
@andrewmcalister3462
@andrewmcalister3462 11 месяцев назад
0:46 For once, backwards hat Dylan is right on the money. 😂
@SchmitzJeanNoel
@SchmitzJeanNoel 11 месяцев назад
Very interesting !
@bebopman5
@bebopman5 8 месяцев назад
4:14, I remember reading an article that showed that a RaceKing at 2.2 size has less rolling resistance than a Gatorskin at 28, so I believe your logic here
@kwaktak
@kwaktak 10 месяцев назад
I’m not a racer by any stretch but I find this choice to be very interesting. I’m looking forward to the bike check video and will likely modify my own budget hardtail accordingly.
@13opacus
@13opacus 11 месяцев назад
Cool bike👍
@JayRappa
@JayRappa 11 месяцев назад
Excellent job on the strategy to limit your power. Good luck at Leadville, that race sounds rough
@thomaspitcher2335
@thomaspitcher2335 11 месяцев назад
good stuff
@vadymvv
@vadymvv 11 месяцев назад
Amazing how math wins a race, I mean almost. Very interesting analysis)
@gauthierperrod4958
@gauthierperrod4958 11 месяцев назад
I really like your new background, maybe a bit much as I'm losing my focus looking at it 😂
@GeekonaBike
@GeekonaBike 11 месяцев назад
Sidewall suppleness checks out with me. Back in the day, we would only do road races on tubulars with silk sidewalls.They made a huge difference over the cotton tubulars we trained on.
@turboseize
@turboseize 11 месяцев назад
They would also flat about every 100km or so. When my grandfather handed me over his bike, he also gave me a ton of tyres to use up. The silk ones were phenomenal. Never again have I experienced such a level of comfort and confidence on a bike - even though these were 21 and 23s, and I now ride 25s. I would also carry two spares on every ride just to be able to creep home when (not if - when!) they flattened...
@steven871
@steven871 11 месяцев назад
Congrats Dylan. Pacing wins it Would love to learn about your typical vegan meals and snacks
@Hwy929
@Hwy929 11 месяцев назад
Loved the analysis and details on pacing. Just subscribed. Power meters are expensive. Can something similar be done with a HR monitor? The insert of lance and doping was too funny.
@farrier53
@farrier53 11 месяцев назад
I totally agree with tour bike choice & set-up. I dont have a gravel bike, I ride a 2012 Scott Scale with 2X10spd (26-39) + 11-36 cassette. A regular FOX 32 XC 100MM fork. XX1 all'round work well with Red road shifters on drop bars. maxis Ikons 2.2 , Schwalbe Rocket Rons or cx tires, what ever is suitable for the course. Awesome racing machine !! Lighter than a gravel bike at 19lbs...
@glennpettersson9002
@glennpettersson9002 11 месяцев назад
Congratulations on a well deserved 3rd place. 🤘💪🖖
@teok7735
@teok7735 11 месяцев назад
i d love to see a meta that has everyone experimenting with their set ups constantly and for every race
@jempanuncialman9361
@jempanuncialman9361 11 месяцев назад
Maganda ang bike mo, Dylan.
@GADonMc
@GADonMc 11 месяцев назад
I’d like to hear about that bike setup.
@thecyclingmaker
@thecyclingmaker 11 месяцев назад
oh god we are never going to hear the end of drop bar MTBs in the podcast now, this is it.
@ElevationEveryWeekend
@ElevationEveryWeekend 11 месяцев назад
I dig the setup! I took my Salsa Beargrease (yes, a carbon fat bike), added drop AND full aero bars, and 29x3” wheel/tire combo, and that bike is a dream on Colorado dirt, gravel, and light single track. It just eats miles with smiles! Def not a race setup though.
@myfrequencies1912
@myfrequencies1912 11 месяцев назад
Sounds awesome!!!
@isaacbailey33
@isaacbailey33 11 месяцев назад
And this is called #doingyourresearch
@facediaper09
@facediaper09 11 месяцев назад
DJ, My bikes have cobwebs but my surfboard is on fire 🔥 😂 Btw, I lov3 that Frankenstein bike, especially that 42 gets me hot😂
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