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This and That: 2022 Russian Figure Skating Championships (Anna Shcherbakova, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva) 

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This week, a blood bath went down at the 2022 Russian Figure Skating Championships. Eteri Tutberidze came to dominate the event, yet the crowd booed the scoring of Diana Davis and Gleb Smolkin and was on the side of Elizaveta Tuktamysheva. While Kamila Valieva, Alexandra Trusova and Anna Shcherbakova may be the Olympic Team, was it too much for the public to stomach? Tamara Moskvina's teams of Mishina and Galliamov and Boikova and Kozlovskii defeated Tarasova and Morozov and raised new questions about Russia's strategic in the team event at the 2022 Olympic Games. What about Mikhail Kolyada and Mark Kondratiuk? And is Adelia Petrosyan the future of Team Tutberidze? Why was Sofia Muravieva's score lowered? We break it all down and more of the latest edition of 'This and That.
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@lukestuff2546
@lukestuff2546 2 года назад
Sergei jumping after Sasha landed a jump is the best part of the entire competition
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
💯
@rahelhorvat1471
@rahelhorvat1471 2 года назад
he is hilarious, always jumps when the girls land jumps, I guess it's cause he teaches them how to jump.
@andreagoldstein4070
@andreagoldstein4070 2 года назад
He's the only member of Team Tut that doesn't make me roll my eyes. He seems genuinely invested in his skaters.
@untitled4687
@untitled4687 2 года назад
it was giving orser energy lol
@vanessafreitas1000
@vanessafreitas1000 2 года назад
When I saw Sergei jumping I remember when Luke Skywalker says to Darth Vader there is still good in him. Although in this situation Eteri would play the role of Darth Vader.
@iamdee2615
@iamdee2615 2 года назад
Elizabeta Tuktamysheva has my respect, We had this New Russian Younger skaters who did incredible jumps but Elizabeta when she skates, hands up! She’s amazing!
@holiday_jeeneewoo47
@holiday_jeeneewoo47 2 года назад
Alexandra Trusova just pulls you in! I dont care what people say about her but she gives a very strong energy.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
She does!
@10skyblue
@10skyblue 2 года назад
Totally agree, love her. She is so daring and captivating👍
@SuperLara007
@SuperLara007 2 года назад
Honestly, I love how Ted doesn't make a sound during the performance. Like when you're watching a movie, you don't want anyone explaining anything, you want to immerse yourself and that's it, you don't want anyone's input in your experience. He does it after, during the reviews which is how it should be.
@dollimelaine
@dollimelaine 2 года назад
totally agree!
@nikolaykozma4799
@nikolaykozma4799 2 года назад
Although I respect everyones views on Liza I think the real travesty is that Anna took 3rd place away from Adelia or Sofya S. (Particularly Samodelkina). Crazy that a girl who had two clean skates with a triple axel and 3 quads is beaten by someone who fell on one quad and just managed to land her triples. I mean I get she's a junior but credit needs to be given....
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 2 года назад
Samodelkina had so many carrots.
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
Even with that carrots Samo still above Anna's BV. But with junior there's no way Rusfed will give her more than the WC and 3x Rusnats. It's unfair but some can still be reasoned regardless of the quality given on ice. I'm actually more angry over Muravieva scoring less than Anna
@queenredspecial
@queenredspecial 2 года назад
@@jamesyu5212 What are carrots?
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 2 года назад
@@queenredspecial underrotations
@fw7103
@fw7103 2 года назад
The taping on Anna’s knee looked heavy, gnarly and painful. Pretty evident to me that she was injured. I’ve heard rumours from friends in St. Petersburg that she was injured during the second day of practice here, and was jumping 3 quads in run throughs until the injury, which explains the “I’m in good shape” comments and then the “I will not comment on how many quads” and “it depends on the form” comments. I just hope she wasn’t in too much pain skating, although it certainly looked otherwise. Kamila - unstoppable in practice and competition. Sasha - apparently there or there abouts the whole time, as usual, although she managed to deliver in the free. Liza - I’m so heartbroken for her😭😭😭
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
:(
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
Ok that explains it actually. I thought Anna will be coming with at least 2 quads so bit surprised that she did 1 attempt. If she injured herself during practice session then good to take precaution
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Oh that’s too bad, she had declined but she did look especially poor at this event so that would make sense. Thanks for the info.
@SuperLara007
@SuperLara007 2 года назад
She has had those tapes on her knees many times already, it's a result of her pre-jump technique, punching the full blade down with full force in a pre-rotation position, it puts all the pressure on her knees; unless she changes her technique she'll keep having to put these tapes mid-season every year. I don't know about this time but they don't necessarily mean an actual injury, they're just to relieve tension and pressure on muscles and joints; right before worlds, she competed with both knees like this and landed two quads, so there's definitely something off this time, and as they usually do, they don't disclose injuries unless they really have to. Like during nationals she was breathing salt and everybody was wondering why, also after withdrawing from a grand prix, they said it was pneumonia but this week Eteri let slip that Anna had covid complications... something nobody knew she even had...
@nycgtl88
@nycgtl88 2 года назад
Anna had a bad SP1 and changed last minute to SP2 which was good but not great. Injuries this season not allowing full training, and no she did not recycle programs otherwise id say re do Perfume and keep Forgiveness, TT did not set up an Olympic package thats the real issue. We know Anna fights but all these not on her favor was expected to not win. Lets hope she recovers to make up in Euros and Olympics. Proud for Sascha, as expected over rated Kamila (love her axel though), but also shows the crappy system we have in skating where nothing is judged technically as textbook but biased.
@HT-zk8jh
@HT-zk8jh 2 года назад
My highlight was actually Sofia Samodelkina. And Sasha. Trusova has this stubborn maximalist energy when it comes to the athletic part of skating. Adrenalin rush that you do not get from other skaters, which is why people myself included root for her with the flaws in choreo, artistry and inconsistencies. To me, this makes it what it is, a sport. It may be non-perfect but is guaranteed to be exciting and not boring. She is also does not have this “good girl”cheesiness or diva syndrome that many Tut girls have, and seems to have 0 interest in media attention overall.
@amethyst5512
@amethyst5512 2 года назад
I also but can’t help but rooting for Trusova despite her lack of actual skating ability and artistry. She just has this energy about her. She’s going to do the maximum she can athletically no matter what anyone says. She definitely seems to be an independent thinker and has personality. She never seems to be overly upset when she falls. She just goes harder next time. She actually really needed a coach to tell her when enough is enough because this injury may have been avoided. She’s under rotating now, which may improve or not, but I still can’t help but root for her. She’s the opposite of Anna, who at this point just comes across as a pathetic little good girl not understanding that what has happened to her was inevitable and she’s about to be tossed aside like yesterday’s trash. It’s very hard to watch.
@robertjames1087
@robertjames1087 2 года назад
@@amethyst5512 I absolutely agree, Sasha has an awesome personality!!
@QQ-wl6yt
@QQ-wl6yt 2 года назад
Samodelkina is by far the most interesting and with the highest potential of the current juniors (the only one who doesn’t skate like a little kid) - but the version of Habanera is a travesty... it’s like a lounge version of some gimmick starbucks cd trend from 20 years ago, by the time the music changes, the boring backbeat has been going on for some three minutes that feel like thirty; can’t imagine how depressing that program must be if she’d skate it with even one mistake
@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122
@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122 2 года назад
@@QQ-wl6yt her music is terrible
@Plaspos
@Plaspos 2 года назад
@@QQ-wl6yt Samodelkina is my favorite but her potential is equal to Akatieva and Muravyeva and zhilina and even Petrosyan they all have multiple ultra-c elements and good skating otherwise
@katg8924
@katg8924 2 года назад
I hope all of the Tutberidze girls make it through this season without any further injuries, but I also really want Tuktamysheva on the Olympic team…
@gracej4306
@gracej4306 2 года назад
Muravieva's triple axel looked effortless. I kept thinking it was a double
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
I thought it was a 2A because of short preparation, but I noticed the rotation and it didn't look like a 2A.
@DeepSeas..
@DeepSeas.. 2 года назад
I’m not sure what’s going on with Anna but she demonstrated some of the worst skating skills I’ve ever seen on the senior circuit during that free skate. She was fighting as hard as she could to generate any speed whatsoever. I usually don’t care about skating skills unless I’m watching two skaters side by side, but it really detracted from the programs and even made me worry that she wouldn’t get enough speed to get any of her jumps around.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
💯
@hannibaljustincase9985
@hannibaljustincase9985 2 года назад
I agree, and I'm actually a big fan of Anna lol, she looked even worse than at last year's nationals after pneumonia
@worldpeace9522
@worldpeace9522 2 года назад
She was sick and missed 2-3 weeks training. Coaches spoke to her and let her decide to skate at RN or not. But she is a big fighter and never misses the Russian Nationals. And she tried and did her best.
@celiareed1402
@celiareed1402 2 года назад
She looks really injured.
@ileana823100
@ileana823100 2 года назад
I am hope i am wrong but the jumpe looked a lot like zhenyas jumps in olympic season were she had unkown to all of us the back inyury
@kristenjunker1632
@kristenjunker1632 2 года назад
Your prediction about the wheels coming off the Team Tutb bus... your investigative journalism sense was more correct than any of us ever imagined.
@alvinachamberland1045
@alvinachamberland1045 2 года назад
It's an insanity that Tuktamysheva's second triple axel was called as an underrotation while none of Trusova's or Scheherbakova's jumps were called as underrotated... how?
@viktoria8189
@viktoria8189 2 года назад
Trusova was called for edges and underrotation, maybe check protocols before writing. It's Anna who they always turn blind eye on. Sasha always got the lowest goes and most calls from Eteri's girls...
@EVA-sw8wo
@EVA-sw8wo 2 года назад
Trusova's 4lz3t was called under as well as she received two edge calls
@alvinachamberland1045
@alvinachamberland1045 2 года назад
@@viktoria8189 I both checked and doublechecked, she was called for one Q, no underrotations, and the q was on the triple toeloop, none of the quads... Liza however was called UR...
@LiliyaUgay
@LiliyaUgay 2 года назад
@@viktoria8189 it was just ! , not an actual edge call, which she should have gotten and was getting when with Plushenko. And only q, not an actual >
@marinav.4440
@marinav.4440 2 года назад
Corruption among the judges.
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 2 года назад
Diana Davies with the silver medal was the most unexpected result of the event…. Said no one ever.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Ha!
@TheReneex
@TheReneex 2 года назад
Diana Davies is so overrated and that smug and dour look which was captured upon her face. As the cameras zoomed in, when Lisa, Sasha and even Scherbakova's performances were being recapped, spoke volumes!
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 2 года назад
It is only a surprise if you have not been listening to TSL the past 6 months!
@worldpeace9522
@worldpeace9522 2 года назад
Diana and Gleb deserved their silver medal.
@celiareed1402
@celiareed1402 2 года назад
Diana skated at least half her program on both feet. Still no edges.
@nell5821
@nell5821 2 года назад
🤡🤡🤡 3rd place with no quad and a fall while there were other girls that cleanly executed several quads and 3A
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Only in Russia
@biggestgymfan7230
@biggestgymfan7230 2 года назад
3 time Russian champ and eteri bonus
@almourie
@almourie 2 года назад
I feel like we could sort of justify annas scores if this was a euros or random competition. But when there’s 4 other girls doing quads and 3a theres no way you can even think of giving her those scores! Both Sofias were incredibly robbed and deserved to be on that podium, waiting for a Evgeni and Yana comment!
@user-ls8pu9oz5y
@user-ls8pu9oz5y 2 года назад
Может дело в том, что можно делать четверные с ошибками, а можно чисто каскады из тройных. Анна бесспорно заслуживает медали, а Муравьевой удачи в будущих соревнованиях.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Yep, both Sofias were underscored esp Samodelkina Who skated early and they gave her 76 with a clean short program with a triple axel and excellent skating and presentation. Sasha was like 74 or something with fall on her Axel and the usual PCS. I don’t know if Sofia M could’ve made it to podium because her free isn’t as high in technical BV but we saw what they did to her scores… and Samo truly should have been..
@user-yp9gq7oz6q
@user-yp9gq7oz6q 2 года назад
Взгляд Плющенко после проката Аделии этим надо наслождаться
@adshille8987
@adshille8987 2 года назад
@@user-ls8pu9oz5y да-да, все дело именно в чистоте, а не в шампиньонах, не в шиитаке, не в вешенках, и даже не в обабках.
@Anne-sv9gc
@Anne-sv9gc 2 года назад
I love you two! I cried after Liza's performance b/c she pulled out ALL THE STOPS and entertained the crowd as the oldest girl in the competition. Two triple axels and got people to dance along with her. Come on! She should have been third overall. I'm glad you are still rooting for her and are projecting that positive energy and sass.
@MsWhitelilly
@MsWhitelilly 2 года назад
With failed rotation and no 3-3?
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Unfortunately there’s no way she could’ve been third after that short program. But Sofia Samodelkina on the other hand….
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
not all stop though, I was surprised she did not do 3Lz-3T at the free which she usually did in the past in important competitions. She did 3Lz-2A seq but changed it later to 3Lz-3T in GPF, Rusnats, and WC.
@LiliyaUgay
@LiliyaUgay 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou Samodelkina really could be second if judged equally to Trusova. Like Trusova, she performed super difficult LP with three quads, and unlike Trusova she also landed 3A in the short and no falls.
@evamasters5028
@evamasters5028 2 года назад
@ Liliya Ugai: perhaps it is time for Davidov/TSKA to say something, stand up to Rus Fed, fight for their skaters and demand equality. Instead they only praise Eteri and take the slaps, happy to offer the other cheek. What do they wait for? Plushenko and Yana to do all the work? TSL to call it out? You can't be a coward and expect to be taken seriously. Even Medvedeva and Tarasova occasionally have the balls to stand to Eteri. Why can't TSKA?
@iris7484
@iris7484 2 года назад
I'm surprised Ted isn't on the pyramid for his performance this week.
@alexac3098
@alexac3098 2 года назад
Haaaaaaahahahahahahahahaha
@natalievangilder4688
@natalievangilder4688 2 года назад
When Ted called Kami the national champion before she even got of the ice lol. Like we all knew it would turn out that way but to hear Ted low-key confirm it was rigged (before the scores were even done) had me CACKLING. Get ur Bag Ted get ur Bag.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Ahhah totally Ted should be on the pyramid! With some extra ice cream bars!
@anneramones2923
@anneramones2923 2 года назад
💀
@eliz9822
@eliz9822 2 года назад
My moment of the event was Elizaveta’s engagement with the audience in the FS. She was a seductress and had everyone under her spell. Priceless! AAA+++ performance IMO. Electrifying!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
🔥🔥🔥🔥
@NormaLilia24
@NormaLilia24 2 года назад
She deserved 3rd place
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@Simmy Samb I don’t disagree with you about Sofias or that we don’t have to have seductions etc… but I don’t think the OP said we must have it, just that they liked it. 🤷🏻‍♀️
@waveythree
@waveythree 2 года назад
Tuktamysheva is the only one of the top Russian women who jumps clean, actually takes off from the toe pick without pre-rotation. Wish she could be rewarded for that. No judge seems to pick up on this. And she has so much more height and power than Scherbakova.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Excellent jumps!
@user-cq3lg3nl2k
@user-cq3lg3nl2k 2 года назад
А кто откроет глаза судьям ?
@CaraMarie13
@CaraMarie13 2 года назад
They pick up on it but if they started judging her jumps as they should then they would have to start calling the Eteri girls for their horrible techniques. Like forget the ridiculously high GOE, they would be lucky to get a positive GOE on many of those jumps to begin with.
@futfolt
@futfolt 2 года назад
она не имеет cascade 3/3
@amethyst5512
@amethyst5512 2 года назад
@@futfolt so what? She can do multiple 3A’s in a competition. Anna can’t do any quads anymore and her triple triples are becoming under rotated.
@catherinemcgill3004
@catherinemcgill3004 2 года назад
I’m not a fan of Trusova but I love the overt darkness of her free skate. I am a huge fan of the Stooges and loved hearing this edgy, pre-punk masterpiece of distorted guitar work in the context of figure skating! The lyrics, mixed with her raunchy packaging, made her come off as a Dominatrix. Such a contrast to the balletic girls in flowy dresses!
@iamsoverybored878
@iamsoverybored878 2 года назад
You can tell that she actually picked and likes this music to skate to. The other Eteri girls music were picked for them. Like are we supposed to belive that Kamilla actually likes Bolero.
@andreagoldstein4070
@andreagoldstein4070 2 года назад
I think it's actually a cover from the Cruella soundtrack but it captures the energy of the original song. I'm sure her love of all things canine made Sasha pick the Cruella soundtrack. I just want to see more choreo.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
I just want to say I love this comment 😁
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
AND the replies!
@SuperLara007
@SuperLara007 2 года назад
I love how she made this artistry. She receives constant criticism that she doesn't have artistry because she's not balletic, feminine, and fragile, so she tried it last season and people were still not having it, then she came with punk rock all in black, red lipstick, heavy eyeliner and said you know what then here's this artistry for you.
@shantarakelian1998
@shantarakelian1998 2 года назад
Timestamps in progress: 0:00 Introduction 0:18 Alina Zagitova referenced 0:43-2:37 Eteri Pyramid (bless) 1:10 Valieva (did her job) 1:31 Petrosyan or Petrosian 1:39 Trusova 1:52 points to Diana Davis (boos in audience, I wonder why? I’m only kidding lol) 2:08 Tarasova and Morozov (3rd), Trankov said it all. Lol 2:18 Shcherbakova (a fighter but very slow, does anybody know if she is injured!??? I saw tape or something on her knee). 2:24 Khromykh (so close but behind Elizaveta in both programs I think). 2:27 Kostornaia 2:37 End of Eteri Pyramid 2:54 female results (I think this implies Russia but not 100% sure, Dave can correct me if I’m wrong). And general comments in nationals 4:19 Medvedeva 4:28 Alina Zagitova 5:49 Trusova briefly mentioned 7:08 and slightly before this time talking about Ted commentating 7:57 Ari Zakarian referenced 8:49 interview with Tuktamysheva and Medvedeva upstaging Zagitova 9:46 Tuktamysheva 11:11 Kamila 12:32 Diana Davis 12:52 Russian Nationals Ice Dance Event (public opinions-outrage). 13:23 Annabelle Morozov mentioned 14:37 Anna Shcherbakova scoring! 14:57 Maiia Khromykh briefly mentioned 15:35 would you send the top three ladies. All three are named for the european team with Elizaveta and Maiia named as alternates. 15:42 Anna has a taped knee 17:16 could Anna be injured and we don’t know? Could it be why she was very slow (watch the free and it was quite evident, I love Anna but it was so slow). 17:35 more on Trusova 18:47 Tiffany Zahorski 19:43 Back to Anna 20:59 Samodelkina 21:05 Petrosian 21:12 Elizaveta 21:30 Trusova PCS 22:13 back to Anna 22:26 Back to Elizaveta and I agree! 23:40 Kostornaia whom Eteri thought should have competed at nationals with the cast on. Medvedeva did it. 23:55 Eteri Interview 24:10 back to Tuktamysheva, wasn’t as upset with the scores. 24:22 Muravieva, point 24:53 is this end for Elizaveta? 26:17 Loena Hendrickx 28:19 Yagudin 30:00 Trusova being a wildcard 30:22 back to Tuktamysheva 31:13 ice cream 31:38 back to Petrosian 35:26 back to Kostornaia 36:31 Maiia briefly mentioned. Danny G hair 37:18 Jesus Christ Superstar 37:27 Mark Kondratiuk 39:46 Moving onto the Mens event 39:49 Eteri says men are weak 1:38:24 End of the Video
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@anthony7136
@anthony7136 2 года назад
❤️❤️
@msmo2060
@msmo2060 2 года назад
Please bookmark the Danny G & his new hair comment!! I literally cried!!
@shantarakelian1998
@shantarakelian1998 2 года назад
@@msmo2060 I’ll do my best!! Thanks for the recommendation! I haven’t gotten to that yet. Sounds hilarious
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
TY!!
@pwetty4r4
@pwetty4r4 2 года назад
I really don't mind Trusova's jump drill, that chaotic guitar music, the NOW I WANNA BE A DAWGG, So epic haha I always get so into it
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
It is great music for her!
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 2 года назад
It is the only Sambo 70 program I enjoyed this year. It is just so nutty and FUN.
@iamsoverybored878
@iamsoverybored878 2 года назад
Atleast it's different who would of thought that we would hear Iggy Pop in a competitive skating program. These skaters need to skate to more rock music that's not Queen, Muse or Coldplay.
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 2 года назад
@@iamsoverybored878 It actually suits Trusova and matches her skating, which is rare in Team Eteri, where they cram their skaters into pre-picked out music! I love Muse, but they've written other stuff great for skating besides Exogenisis. That needs to stop.
@iamsoverybored878
@iamsoverybored878 2 года назад
@@etherealtb6021 I don't mind Muse I actually have two of there albums. There's just way more music out there then what these skaters always skate to. Like instead of the same Queen songs why don't we hear more Bowie. Songs like Heroes or Life on Mars? would be great to skate to.
@mai3334
@mai3334 2 года назад
Anna’s flying camel has traveled more than I have in two years.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Ha!
@twinklejelly123
@twinklejelly123 2 года назад
Her spins always were prone to wander a bit
@annemary9680
@annemary9680 2 года назад
Bruuuhhhh 😂
@hannibaljustincase9985
@hannibaljustincase9985 2 года назад
well you don't understand it you American! the genius of Dannil G made her flying camel spin actually FLY at least the distance from Moscow to St Petersburg as a metaphor of struggles of being a high profile athlete!!!!!!
@phanphuc1929
@phanphuc1929 2 года назад
Personally, Sofia muravieva is a good substitute for a Kostornaia-like skater. She has genuine jumping skills and skating edges that are deep and defined. Can’t wait for what will happen next year
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Sofia M and Sofia Samodelkina both 👍 👍👍
@vicserra2485
@vicserra2485 2 года назад
What is iteresting is that Muravieva is same age as Valieva and she have been compete since prenovice there are many pics of them, and Valieva has always been ahead of her, literally decens of competitions (even before Valieva with Eteri). I dont think Muravieva really think she can beat Valieva
@user-wr7pe3ng4r
@user-wr7pe3ng4r 2 года назад
Kostornaya has a stunning appearance, but this is not so for Muravyova, unfortunately.
@koalapayslater
@koalapayslater 2 года назад
@@vicserra2485 well, in novices both of them were weak let's be honest. Kamila couldn't jump triples and mostly benefited off spins bonuses. Sofia was always an underdog because she was struggling with her huge 3Lz for years. Both of them are rising now. If Kamila wins Olys now she may have shorter career than Sofia tbh
@vicserra2485
@vicserra2485 2 года назад
@@koalapayslater I dont care to have a shorter career if im Olympic champion, 10000000x times better that skate 6 years of irrelevant career. Im talking in general no specific skaters.... btw Kamila herself has said she wants to skate 2-3 years in seniors and then retire, sooo Kamila gonna have a shorter career anyway but because her decision no Zhenya or Alina that the sport force her to quit you know And yep both were weak but Kamila always was in front, same with Daria and Maya sooo is hard to think you cant beat your rival
@lovisa.carlsen
@lovisa.carlsen 2 года назад
So proud of Trusova :)))
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@user-hk4hh9bg6k
@user-hk4hh9bg6k 2 года назад
I hate to see Anna with bronze just because it feels like she can literally fall apart during her skate. The judging made everyone mad.
@dorin7775
@dorin7775 2 года назад
Кто по вашему мнению должен был стать третьим?
@biscuitcase83
@biscuitcase83 2 года назад
@@dorin7775 Liza
@user-hk4hh9bg6k
@user-hk4hh9bg6k 2 года назад
@@dorin7775 должен- не должен, мне хотелось бы видеть Лизу на Олимпиаде
@dorin7775
@dorin7775 2 года назад
@@biscuitcase83 her base value in free program is 64,35 while Anna's - 73,68. And, unfortunately, Lisa fell off the axel in short program and made a cheap 3-2 cascade (while Anna's short program was done well).
@dorin7775
@dorin7775 2 года назад
@@user-hk4hh9bg6k ну мало ли что вам хотелось, мне вот хотелось, чтобы на Олимпиаду поехали Саша, Аня и Лиза, но это не значит, что мне теперь нужно писать гневные комментарии в сторону Камилы. Аня была сильнее Лизы, учите матчасть и читайте протоколы.
@amethyst5512
@amethyst5512 2 года назад
I love your advice for Liza. It’s exactly how to put the pressure on.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
❤️❤️🙏
@VikVard
@VikVard 2 года назад
Gentlemen, I truly appreciate the job you are doing and totally understand the concept of the show. At the end of the day it is extra penny and dime for the figure skating promotion around the world anyways. Could you let me drop a thought over here so someone might catch an idea and spread a word. I am Russian, from Chelyabinsk, big, cold and very provincial, industrial city in the mountains. The woman figure skating in the place is huge! And this is truly sad to see all these talents going literally nowhere! The quantity of the great skaters in the country is enormous huge. By the quality Russian Nationals is not just bigger than the Olympics, it is simply another planet. My heart is falling apart of watching all those young girls fighting for the 3 spots only! God damn 3... and all thar hysterical trash around this fight. If we send 10 ladies in Beijing there is a very possible chance that 6-8 of them will be in top 10. And this is the only top of the iceberg. There are 100s of extremely good kids around the country, they just never got lucky to be caught by the famous trainer, who are concentrated in Moscow and St.Pete only. We need a league here, I would say open league. With all the foreigners willing to reach invited. For the grace of this sport, the old farts who run Russian figure skating federation at the moment - they can't do shit! And all those hidden stars will never have a chance to even try, because there is not such a place for it. All the competitions in and out of Russia are a simple joke, based on what kinda golden mine we are sitting on here. Please, drop an idea in your show somehow. We are fighting with the windmills here... and the girls are suffering for nothing. Russia has so much to offer to this world in figure skating... if you would now. Thanks again to both of you gents. For the enthusiasm and your dedication.
@vf9322
@vf9322 2 года назад
What a noticed with Diana Davis, her partner is a good dancer and their coach taught them well how to disguise Dianas flaws. Almost everything they do is intended to disguise her flaws as something cool. For example, Gleb drags her around, the lifts they do have more about with Gleb's abilities and she let just him throw her in the air (like a corps), but he is doing a lot of work. The twizzels, yes, they are covering that department well, I guess, but, Diana Davis is nowhere near Anabelle Morozov! And finally, she looks sooo cheap 🙈🤦🏻‍♀️ No wonder the audience was outraged by the scores!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Igor teaches everyone how to drag weaker girls so well. it is his speciality...like tangos...
@vf9322
@vf9322 2 года назад
@@TheSkatingLesson oh, I'm new in watching ice dance, so I didn't know that, but I have a background in dancing so I just noticed that today watching them skating. For me it was quite obvious. But well disguised, I have to say. People can be fooled....
@somekindofflower2024
@somekindofflower2024 2 года назад
I noticed that Gleb is the better ice dancer and yes, he is the one that covers Diana's mistakes. I don't think they are bad, they are good, but really far from having that presence of ice dancers, far behind Bukin and Stepanova.
@Plaspos
@Plaspos 2 года назад
Annabelle is not really good either, Khudaiberdieva and shevchenko are a lot better
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Agreed. I keep forgetting his name and call him the guy who carries the pair. And indeed the whole thing has been working around disguising her flaws. I was laughing out what they’ve said about the coach though. The guy who thought Madison C how to skate 😆… so kinda expected I guess.
@kak7440
@kak7440 2 года назад
Have been waiting for this- can't wait to hear what you made of the ladies and ice dancing!!!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Enjoy!
@tofiqzade
@tofiqzade 2 года назад
Liza told that whatever happens this season will not affect her, and she decided that she will accept any turn of events and continue enjoying life. Maybe she felt sad, but did not show it, because she is just a cheerful person. I do not wish injuries to any of the girls who made it, I actually believe Anna will go beyond her limits to restore her jumps for the Olympics, and I want Trusova to properly recover. I was expecting the federation to send Liza to the Europeans instead of Trusova for that reason. But then, they would have a risk that if Liza places higher, Anna's Olympic spot might be in danger.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Liza has been very consistent this season overall.
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
It still sucks, I hope Liza to go because in the Russian skating environment, she is an anomaly. I love a good comeback and dark horse storyline. Plus I'd love anything to spite Eteri and her plan to sweep the podium with all her girls.
@serbru7662
@serbru7662 2 года назад
@@TheSkatingLesson This does not mean that Lisa is better than Anna or Sasha. Anna had an injury at the beginning of the season and she is gaining form later than others. Also, most likely Anna was injured, so such a performance. And if Lisa were higher than Anna in this tournament, it still wouldn't mean anything. In Russia, only the first two figure skaters guarantee themselves the Olympics. The third figure skater will be chosen by the Coaching Council of Russia. Anna will get in shape for the Olympics and she will still be chosen by the coaching council. Even if you like Lisa, you still have to admit that she is weaker than Anna, Sasha and Camilla. That's the whole policy.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
It was so sad her SP, after her being so consistent all season. I think Mishin and her showed sadness after the short, but she is a pro it was very subtle.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@@serbru7662 I don’t know what you mean. I don’t even particularly like Liza’s style of skating, but I don’t see it as a given that she is at the moment lesser than Anna. To my eyes at this event that wasn’t obvious at all. I’ve been skating in watching Skating for 35 years. Of course that doesn’t mean I know everything but I don’t think your conclusion that Anna is currently clearly better is obvious
@or5645
@or5645 2 года назад
My top moments were booing the judges after Tiffany&Jonathan’s scores, Dudakov jumping after Trusova’s last jump-he is a sweetheart, the broken chin, the stolen point from Muravieva, yes-the toy hitting Eteri, the facepalm Mark Kondratiuk’s coach did when he messed up, and Trankov cursing (he really used the worst words possible in Russian, this was longer than “what are you laughing at”, he seriously has stolen the show in the comments that day, not like he was wrong though😀)
@user-gu7oy1hb3f
@user-gu7oy1hb3f 2 года назад
Trankov-- Bich you Fu.. up lift what Fu.. bich fun?
@inocohen5404
@inocohen5404 2 года назад
Yes, I've noticed Dudakov too! Teddy-bear!
@madeliner2021
@madeliner2021 2 года назад
I really don’t see all three girls staying in one piece long enough to make it to Beijing…
@sonne167
@sonne167 2 года назад
Alina had a proper Christmas cardigan and a more casual look during the second day. As someone who is always very nervous around people, I can feel her very well.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Yeah it makes me sad people calling her bitchy etc when it is clear to me she is more of an introvert or something maybe social anxiety. When I see her in Japan, she almost seems more comfortable than in Russia. I’m just guessing it could be because less exuberance is expected in social relationships there it might suit her personality better.
@celinevalencia9908
@celinevalencia9908 2 года назад
If I was part of the Team event selection team, I would have: Ladies - Valieva, Trusova They have the tech to blow away each segment. Valieva for SP and Trusova for LP. Trusova just needs to land 1 or 2 quads to maintain their 1st place. Don't do anything more. Men's - Mark I don't trust Kolyada so I'm putting Mark on the spot. He just needs to skate clean and be shenanigans-free. I'm gonna assume his placement would be between 3rd-4th. It's an expected loss. Pairs- M/G They are consistent and they provide a good 1st/2nd place buffer to support the ladies' lead. Ice Dance - SinKats and StepBuk Why the shit would you want D/S on any segment when they could basically sink the team to silver? Anything could happen in the team event. I am not risking a 5th/6th segment placement to appease her mom.
@arthurtheaardvark13
@arthurtheaardvark13 2 года назад
If they allow Eteri’s daughter to take the place of one of the more deserving ice dance teams during the team event, I will be so freaking mad. There is no way in hell they’d give the team event to Diana in her FIRST SENIOR YEAR, right?!
@topicdel
@topicdel 2 года назад
The Olympic favorite has so much to do with if you were born in the right year....I feel like Anna/Aliona/Sasha were Oly gold ready two years ago (I hope Sasha can still pull it off though), and the 14 year old Juniors will be ready in 1-2 years, but will likely not last until 2026....and Kamila's development has peaked in the perfect year. It makes it all seem like such a crap shoot in a sense. I hope you are right about Elizaveta still having a chance!! Fingers crossed!
@natalievangilder4688
@natalievangilder4688 2 года назад
I was just thinking how Eteri should just start picking and training girls who turn 15 on Olympic years. That's what they prioritize anyway!
@serbru7662
@serbru7662 2 года назад
@@natalievangilder4688 I've never understood how can distort the facts so much ? Do they teach this at school ? Trusova is 17 years old. Shcherbakova is 17 years old. Kostornaya is 18 years old. Valieva is 15 years old. Only one girl out of four is 15 years old !!! Camilla is now at the peak of her form and her age has nothing to do with it. Anna had an injury at the beginning of the season and she is gaining form later than others. Perhaps she still has injuries. Sasha also had an injury. Age doesn't matter here. They all have a task to reach the peak of form for the Olympics. And then we'll see who wins.
@natalievangilder4688
@natalievangilder4688 2 года назад
@@serbru7662 Yes Eteri has skaters over 15 and yes she has done quite well with them, but I still find it disconcerting if her skaters continue to have major injuries or retirement or change of coach usually around age 17-19. again the aggression bro please it is a sport we are allowed to have disagreeing opinions and clearly we do. But you don’t need to go for character assassination when the statistics are there for interpretation, whether you view them in or out of favor. take a chill pill 💊
@serbru7662
@serbru7662 2 года назад
@@natalievangilder4688 Nice. At what age did Tara Lipinski finish her career ? Sarah Hughes ? Yes, you can have your opinion. But distortion of facts is not an opinion, it is a distortion of facts.
@treelo11
@treelo11 2 года назад
@@natalievangilder4688 No she needs girls of all ages. The ones slightly older than the qualification age act as seat warmers so the Eteri reputation builds up year after year.
@snowangel7980
@snowangel7980 2 года назад
this is the last thing of/about figure skating i'll probably watch until Eteri is gone. Her comments about Kosto and Alina and Zhenya, this insane judging, her extreme political influence... its just not fun to watch anymore.
@JoshuaFazeli
@JoshuaFazeli 2 года назад
I’m willing to give up my third spot in the US ladies so Lizaveta can go to Beijing. Just take Alysa and Lindsay.
@mirymir.6287
@mirymir.6287 2 года назад
Срочно надо Лизе дать гражданство Америки.
@suzyq0076
@suzyq0076 2 года назад
1000% agree. I’ve been saying this.
@futfolt
@futfolt 2 года назад
браво)))
@CaraMarie13
@CaraMarie13 2 года назад
Like how naive of me. After Anna's performance i thought, "she'd be lucky to end forth". Obviously, i should have known better.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
🤣🤣💯
@alexac3098
@alexac3098 2 года назад
She should have been 5th or 6th.
@pablogutierrez4817
@pablogutierrez4817 2 года назад
The best part of this show was the Shin Amano part. He made Japanese Nationals so great. He is harsh and isn’t intimidated by stardom or bribing. He sees a cheated jump and he attacks equally.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
I love his calls.
@anettep6678
@anettep6678 2 года назад
I sooo want him to call the women in Beijing (not gonna happen unless hell freezes over though). Save us, Shin Amano, you are our only hope. 😂
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
I heard his name many times, can you give us example competition segments where he became tech caller? I'd like to see his call and whether he was indeed strict and fair.
@leratomonethi4265
@leratomonethi4265 2 года назад
@@yohanes2034 Check Japanese nationals
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
@@leratomonethi4265 Japanese Nationals this year? women or men events? No edge calls for women though, cause I'd know Kaori or Wakaba didn't get their usual calls
@user-lj1mt1cr2e
@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 года назад
Yeah a lot of people in Russia are really mad at Anna's scoring. We are not blind. It's just that we feel we can't do anything about it because the federation doesn't care. I almost feel unpatriotic but I hope there will be an upset at the Olympics and we won't get the whole podium. I feel Kami deserves gold if she is clean or almost clean but hopefully at least the bronze goes somewhere else. It's like they think the viewers are blind or something. They roll out this "competition" for us and then think we won't notice that they have predetermined the results beforehand. At least before we felt an element of uncertainty and competition there. This was just a huge F you to the Russian public. The too close to the sun reference was good. I think we all felt something was off here at these nationals.
@user-cq3lg3nl2k
@user-cq3lg3nl2k 2 года назад
У нас это называется " чисто хрустальное судейство "
@abp1400
@abp1400 2 года назад
Who do you think are best 3 women FS in Russia?
@user-lj1mt1cr2e
@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 года назад
@@user-cq3lg3nl2k на это было так грустно смотреть
@user-lj1mt1cr2e
@user-lj1mt1cr2e 2 года назад
@@abp1400 In terms of who are age-qualified to go to olympics: Kamila one, Liza two and Trusova three.
@laudese
@laudese 2 года назад
I was wondering if the judges were trying to avoid having to “Ashley Wagner” someone to the Olympics by giving some inflated scores during the competition. Both ways of getting skaters to the OG are controversial but maybe they didn’t want the extra work/time that it would have taken to look at all the bodies of work over the past season?
@lenavinogradova950
@lenavinogradova950 2 года назад
There is a rumor that Tutberidze wants Muravieva. I hope 🤞 she doesn't get her though. Plushenko and team have been working on Muravieva for a few years now and have turned her into a really good skater.
@futfolt
@futfolt 2 года назад
очередной наброс
@tomybestself908
@tomybestself908 2 года назад
Oh lol. Sounds like Rudkovskaya's troll
@lenavinogradova950
@lenavinogradova950 2 года назад
@@tomybestself908 Yes, sure waiting for that cheque from Yana lol
@HalsLWWY
@HalsLWWY 2 года назад
Wasn’t Muravieva with Eteri awhile back but was kicked out?
@almourie
@almourie 2 года назад
@@HalsLWWY not sure if you’re thinking about Sofia Titova cus she gave an interview about that a couple weeks ago. Not sure about Muraviova tho!
@singsongeric
@singsongeric 2 года назад
3 random thoughts: - Yes, those never-melting ice-cream burrito things! - I also don't think this is over for Liza, by a long shot. I was strongly getting that "we'll see about this..." vibe from her after the event and yeah she didn't look as upset as I was expecting either. She's experienced enough to know what a farce all of this politicking is and there's a greater than probable chance that 1 or both of Anna/Sasha won't survive Euros. Heck, if poppers couldn't help Anna's LP here, does she really have a chance internationally. - Petrosian intrigues me, both her skating and personality. She was getting scores that she's never seen before and had no business getting, but she looked like she felt she totally deserved them and wasn't even surprised. Future Russian Queen here, I think.
@evemhooper
@evemhooper 2 года назад
I hope you’re right about Liza- I think she’s got good mental (and physical) strength for the next few months!
@funsies7147
@funsies7147 2 года назад
She might be able to prove herself even more at Euros, over Anna if Anna falters again. However, Sasha and Kamila have solidified their positions and they're guaranteed to go, rightfully so.
@jbuda4263
@jbuda4263 2 года назад
Anna shouldn’t go abs Liza should. Anna is just not prepared and she’s young. Lots of years ahead.
@skaterboy-cz9wj
@skaterboy-cz9wj 2 года назад
Well even if Liza doesn't go to the Olympics the odds are she will get a chance at worlds. The odds are injury or if one of the Russians wins the olympics someone won't go to the worlds. And all three Olympic selected skaters have some injuries so three of them surviving Euros is questionable. Anna needs to heal.
@jbuda4263
@jbuda4263 2 года назад
@@skaterboy-cz9wj I think the ca r that they haven’t selected the Olympic team should tell us something.
@MsWhitelilly
@MsWhitelilly 2 года назад
Guys, I watched the event live. Yes, Lisa did a very good performance, it is St Petersburg, her home town and public was supporting her. But you should have noticed no 3-3 and dropped rotation, right?
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Lucky you to be there!! Unfortunately Liza lost most of her chance already in the short I think. But she did bring it on the free performance-wise and her axels. But yeah it wasn’t enough for podium considering the competition
@MsWhitelilly
@MsWhitelilly 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou I mean, yes, she is great and with a clean short, there could have been a discussion. But live it is really fun to see this slow moment in the middle of the program - she was definitely resting;) And maybe it was not obvious on television, but Anna’s performance is of different kind.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@@MsWhitelilly Oh I personally did notice the slowdown you mention. With some other skaters too. You notice these things much more live indeed. Very interesting about Anna. I do really enjoy her Despite all of her flaws that I can see. I can’t quite put my finger on it so it’s interesting what you say. I wonder what it is about her?
@KG-jg4zn
@KG-jg4zn 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou oh I'm also interested in that question!
@MsWhitelilly
@MsWhitelilly 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou I saw her live in Grenoble in November and she looked so much stronger. Maybe I am wrong, but it seemed to me she lost some weight in 2 months and in SPB looked like she was really in pain (tapes on left knee). Anna is +start skater, so her performance was sort of unusual. On 6 min warm up, she had her quads, but she did not looked confident at all.
@vanessafreitas1000
@vanessafreitas1000 2 года назад
I love when Jonathan says “fascinating”, “interesting”, “intriguing” and “I know” 😀
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
It sounded sophisticated from his mouth, like high society lol
@sschimel
@sschimel 2 года назад
Did anyone else notice a heart beat in the audio in the kiss & cry? It drove me crazy.
@justynazokiewska8223
@justynazokiewska8223 2 года назад
That's what I needed to close my week exactly. Lot's of love and thank you both
@selenity08
@selenity08 2 года назад
I could not wait for your opinion when I saw the Russian National results. I also loved your Eteri pyramid impersonation, this is what I signed up for
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@anettep6678
@anettep6678 2 года назад
I'd send Liza because I don't think Anya will make it to Beijing in one piece, and Sasha still has her "minor injury". I agree, it feels like Eteri flew too close to the sun.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Very minor
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 2 года назад
I think Liza will still go, as either Shcherbakova or Trusova will sadly break down before Feb.
@pgk3052
@pgk3052 2 года назад
@@etherealtb6021 I love Liza, but I am sad that she can only go if either Sasha or Anna crap out. 😞
@alexac3098
@alexac3098 2 года назад
@@etherealtb6021 Truly, the chances of that happening, or of one of them catching Covid before the OG, are *not* that small.
@etherealtb6021
@etherealtb6021 2 года назад
@@matthildamilito5962 Sure seems that way!
@carolinaperez8182
@carolinaperez8182 2 года назад
Las cuentas daban a Sasha cómo.3a.máximo,pero ella es resiliente y logró 2o. Lugar y cambió los planes ahora es entre Anna y Yelizaveta Serguéyevna, ahora si hay reglas,sigo deseando lo mejor a Trusova
@RED-cy7ig
@RED-cy7ig 2 года назад
My heart goes out to Tuktamysheva. Even if she had a quad they would not send her to the Olympics. She took a seat on the ice in the s/p. That gives the federation the excuse not to send her. Her free skate was phenomenal. The out right cheating was so predictable. I missed Kostornaia. We didn't see any face stickers, a jacket thrown at Eteri or a water bottle thrown in Dani G's direction. The ice dancing was criminal. I felt for Zagorski/Guerreiro as their score were being booed. The audience was not fooled like the judges. They saw the same thing that the viewers saw. Somebody bought their daughter and her partner a trip to the Olympics.
@CelesteBou
@CelesteBou 2 года назад
Anna Shcherbakova cannot land neither a quad or a 3A now, she has weak PCs and spins, but they still bought her a spot. I'm bummed for Liza, and for Dai Takahashi and Kana who were also robbed of a spot in Japan. This sport is demoralizing to watch
@RED-cy7ig
@RED-cy7ig 2 года назад
@@CelesteBou Agree. I think she is so badly injured. It's a question mark if she can be healthy enough to make the Olympics. She has been over scored all season.
@angieortizurena3327
@angieortizurena3327 2 года назад
What really is unbelievable to me is that Shcherbakova never had much spring in her jumps to begin with (that happens when you jump with your upper body strength) but now she also seems painfully slow…and even then she receives HUGE GOEs!
@emilymcmahon2670
@emilymcmahon2670 2 года назад
“Shady, passive aggressive Canadian with ambition” 😭
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
💯
@Tara_5650
@Tara_5650 2 года назад
I’ve been so so excited for this! Thank you so much!!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Hope you like it!
@krisfujimoto72
@krisfujimoto72 2 года назад
The women's division looked rigged or set up. Discrepancy in scores.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
💯
@musawasichelwa1321
@musawasichelwa1321 2 года назад
It made no sense...a non eteri skater did a sketchy combo and got negative geo an eteri girl did a stechy combo and got +1.5 geo I was like tf Is going on here
@syd1764
@syd1764 2 года назад
I love kami but there is no way in hell that the score gap between her and sasha should've been that big. no way
@alexjwebabou
@alexjwebabou 2 года назад
fun fact: on the day of the free dance there was ZERO negative comments under Diana/Gleb's video on the 1tv youtube channel! however, they did crawl into the comment section later when the moderator went to sleep.
@user-cq3lg3nl2k
@user-cq3lg3nl2k 2 года назад
А я думаю почему нету комментариев ?
@pastelamethyststarot4074
@pastelamethyststarot4074 2 года назад
Eteri magic died off *winks*
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Ahhah, they must’ve deleted my comments. After I was brutally attacked for saying I have eyes and such.
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
Well that state sponsored channel for you. 😂
@grisgris6908
@grisgris6908 2 года назад
I deeply feel Liza will have a Mykayla Skinner Olympic moment
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Let us pray.
@Sonia94537
@Sonia94537 2 года назад
and I am absolutely here for it :-)
@tanyawade4954
@tanyawade4954 2 года назад
From your lips to the skating gods’ ears….
@AC-co6cp
@AC-co6cp 2 года назад
🙏
@alexac3098
@alexac3098 2 года назад
Oh my god, can we pin this comment to the top? Because yes.
@Julia-js7bs
@Julia-js7bs 2 года назад
God, the judging at Russian nationals...Muravyeva was robbed, she was the best skater at this event. Nice skating skills, good 3A and lovely music. Sherbakoba's score is just unexplainable. When you think that Trusova is overacored in PCS, then the scoring of Anna's jumps is something else. She can barely do spins anymore.
@CaraMarie13
@CaraMarie13 2 года назад
Absolutely robbed. I realized watching this competition that this is where you come to learn helplessness. I would have firmly placed Sofia in third. I would give the performance of the night to Liza (for the long) but she had the best short program and her free program wasn't as good but still showed some great skills. And the fact that her component score in the short was, i think, three points behind Sasha should outrage anyone with eyes.
@Julia-js7bs
@Julia-js7bs 2 года назад
@Caitlin Arguably, they were on the same level in the SP as they had the same content. I personally prefer Murvayeva because she has the better skating skills and programms (this is Dany G's fault, not Valieva's). Valieva has better spins. I just enjoy Murvayeva's performances more because she doesn't seem so scared/sad. Although, Valieva has been getting better in that regard.
@MrChaseBlue
@MrChaseBlue 2 года назад
@@Julia-js7bs valieva has been looking confident ever since skate Canada when she had been getting those scores.
@Julia-js7bs
@Julia-js7bs 2 года назад
@@MrChaseBlue agreed, she has been looking better but still lacks some charisma. Her win was deserved but that doesn't mean that I personally enjoy her performance.
@pedrosousa7756
@pedrosousa7756 2 года назад
The best skater!? OMG, Better than Kamila or Sasha? Better than Anna in PCS? Better than Adelia? No way.
@bojana5503
@bojana5503 2 года назад
Liza was phenomenal and deserves Olympics more than any other Eteri's teenager 🥺
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
She has earned it this season!
@user-1933Olga
@user-1933Olga 2 года назад
а мы по какому принципу отбираем??? что значит заслуживает, многие на попадают и что ?? У нас жизнь такая- одним ВСЁ, другим-НИЧЕГО!!
@vd5234
@vd5234 2 года назад
They ALL deserved it for equal, they all are talented and work like crazy. Is no one’s fault there’s just 3 spots.
@christinethorp3684
@christinethorp3684 2 года назад
Who would you take the spot away from, though? Kamila is otherworldly. Sasha is the one who started the quad revolution, and deserves some respect for that. Anna is the reigning World Champion and three-time Russian champion who can still throw down a solid program when the deck is stacked against her. I do believe Anna's time is running out quickly, though, and she is vulnerable. I can see Wakaba unseating her for the bronze medal at Olympics, if she hits her triple axels.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@@christinethorp3684 Liza could go if one of the girls is injured. I think it was kind of a tough choice between Liza, Sasha, Anna, (and even Aliona; to a lesser extent Maya. Kind of a given that Kamila would go. RusFed clearly was on Anna’s side but as you note her condition is not ideal and clean Wakaba could beat her if fairly scored. Liza may be a stronger choice IMO at present than Anna. Sasha, I don’t think she will be going because she brought in the ladies quad revolution etc but because she actually brought the quads when needed, at the right time ( the nationals). She can be chaotic and they don’t like that.
@SuperLara007
@SuperLara007 2 года назад
I'm abroad this Christmas so I was basically alone, I just sat on my pj's to watch the nationals in my room, and once it was done - after I just sat there starring at the screen speechless for good 10 minutes - I just thought I'm glad I was alone this Christmas because no way in hell I would be able to explain to anyone what is happening with me right now and all I just went through.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
100%
@aleksandrapaka6267
@aleksandrapaka6267 2 года назад
Medvedeva and Trankov: "lets wear christmas sweaters and don't tell Zagitova" 😂
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Yagudin was wearing one too.
@ddjr6673
@ddjr6673 2 года назад
This is the Holiday present I have been waiting for. Thank you so much 🙏🏽
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
You’re welcome 😊
@biggestgymfan7230
@biggestgymfan7230 2 года назад
Anya looks super injured to me like shes deteriorating really fast
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
:(
@dominiquedominique6462
@dominiquedominique6462 2 года назад
So in love ins Sasha Trusova for showing the World what figure Skating is. Namely a SPORT. Her energy and athletism are just awesome.
@karlsamohin3282
@karlsamohin3282 2 года назад
It’s not only a sport, it’s not only TES, and I am saying this as a fan of her
@Julia-js7bs
@Julia-js7bs 2 года назад
It is literally called artistic skating in some countries. The score is comprised of TS and PSC.
@anthonydolio8118
@anthonydolio8118 2 года назад
Ted's primary audience is the Russian Federation. He knows that, if he gets too "real," he could be out of a gig.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
It's Eteri...not the fed...
@romantickangaroo
@romantickangaroo 2 года назад
Ted never goes "real" in his commentaries. That's his nature. He is never seriously critical of anyone. His commentaries at junior grand prix and russian events sound like all the same sweety stuff. Completely harmless. Obviously, he made friends with Eteri, and that seems the reason he got contract with the channel-1.
@marissathefootjuggler6950
@marissathefootjuggler6950 2 года назад
I'm starting to feel like they are practically one and the same these days.
@user-en4wd6ql9t
@user-en4wd6ql9t 2 года назад
@@romantickangaroo he received the contract according to numerous positive reviews from viewers on his comments - you are an idiot if you think that Eteri Georgievna is so involved in something more than coaching)))
@keira.samons5804
@keira.samons5804 2 года назад
Not sure about Bolero, but I think Kamila's SP is quite breathtaking and well choreographed from a musical perspective.
@PoppenAtelier
@PoppenAtelier 2 года назад
So ready for this episode and for the tea after all the mess at the Russian Nationals :-D Love your channel!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️
@LeuchTheFirst
@LeuchTheFirst 2 года назад
Ooh!!! I've never thought I would find Poppen here!!! Love you!! ❤
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Ohhhhh heyyyy, lovely crossover indeed! ❤️⛸❤️🤓
@PoppenAtelier
@PoppenAtelier 2 года назад
@@LeuchTheFirst hiiiii! I'm a huge FS fan all my life! I even remember watching live on tv Oksana Baiul winning the 1994 Olympics and then playing it all for days with my Barbies :D
@PoppenAtelier
@PoppenAtelier 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou heyyyy! ❤️
@mai3334
@mai3334 2 года назад
The Sofias are such special skaters. Love them.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@treelo11
@treelo11 2 года назад
Except for Samodurova
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
I’m so glad they are getting some love. Even if not from the judges.
@yohanes2034
@yohanes2034 2 года назад
@@treelo11 lol well she is also special kind of skater, the "other" female skater taught by Mishin (other than Liza)
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@@treelo11 Maybe not at this event but I have enjoyed her as well.
@mantile6796
@mantile6796 2 года назад
A thing I noticed about Mark is that people seem to be behind him. Crowds surprised me all season how exited they are for him. In the gala other commentator called Mark trankovs favourite and he agreed. Also I seem to have noticed that even Misha acts different towards him. I think what differentiates him is that he is artist first and skater second. This gold medal was a big surprise even for a fan of Mark. P.s. Sorry if it doesn't make sense its like 2am
@dariakukhar1595
@dariakukhar1595 2 года назад
Mark was an eye opener in the last year's competition between Alina and Zhenya's teams. He was like a gulp of fresh air, very different from the traditional male Russian classic FS school. Very humble but open and funny, he surprised the crowd by delivering clean Quads last year. Then followed few competitions where he wasn't very good, but he was the one to get the 3rd spot for the Russian team heading to OG. So people have a lot to cheer him for, and call him our 'underground'. A bit like Kosta in my view, but more authentic.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
I’ve been living on Russian time. I woke up at 2 AM and no RusNats anymore lol… you made sense to me! The men’s were kind of a hot mess and though his program never quite came together 100% for me, Mark made the best of it. Congrats! Hopefully Kolyada gets his focus together and glad he brought back the free program rather than Schindlers list.
@ideas_inkwell
@ideas_inkwell 2 года назад
@@dariakukhar1595 He is a literal visual artist.
@dariakukhar1595
@dariakukhar1595 2 года назад
@@ideas_inkwell I believe he is a real artist, he paints, goes to museums and exhibitions, a very versatile guy, and still can’t believe he won the gold! He is a bit shy, which in my humble opinion, is not such a great virtue for performance sake, but we have seen his transformations already during Channel 1 competition, so hopefully he will progress further. So far, he looks like a great personality, gifted skater and the rest we will witness later. I enjoy his performance very much
@ideas_inkwell
@ideas_inkwell 2 года назад
I can relate as I am a writer.
@NormaLilia24
@NormaLilia24 2 года назад
Omg thank you for uploading and saving me from a long boring layover!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
You're welcome!
@PeiwenTanbassoon821
@PeiwenTanbassoon821 2 года назад
Feeling really bad for Zagitova keep being dragged into awkward situations by Eteri…
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 года назад
She looked so out of place in that interview with Liza, evgenia is a speaker and knows how to take control and draw you in. Alina doesn’t and she was literally just sitting there most of the time saying nothing while Liza almost had her back to her and was only talking to evgenia
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Poor Alina, she strikes me as an introvert and not so suited to this sort of thing. And i didn’t like such heavy makeup on her, she’s a very pretty girl and doesn’t need much.
@PeiwenTanbassoon821
@PeiwenTanbassoon821 2 года назад
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 she’s obviously an introvert and uncomfortable with things like this but forced to do it by Eteri just cuz Medvedeva is good at it
@user-bc9ip7ep5r
@user-bc9ip7ep5r 2 года назад
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 The same was with Medo when Alina took an interview with Eteri team, Evgenia just stood aside & did not say a single word.
@coletterobichaud3465
@coletterobichaud3465 2 года назад
What stood out to me was how pre-programmed Ted‘s commentary was. Listen to him before D/S skate their RD and after Jonathan and Tiffany skate. „You may think you’re seeing things, but you’re not the experts, they see things you don’t“, „you might not always agree with the scores, but you’re not the experts“. It was very obvious he was told what to say and when. He was also downplaying muravieva in the LP, much more than in the SP. It felt like he was trying to manipulate our perception of what we were seeing.
@andreagoldstein4070
@andreagoldstein4070 2 года назад
Gaslighting at it's worst.
@theatorrisi9695
@theatorrisi9695 2 года назад
Interesting, I didn't feel that at all
@twinklejelly123
@twinklejelly123 2 года назад
Yeah, it was much less subtle this year than previously, which is sad because it's putting me off Ted and I have always enjoyed him on the junior gp.
@VanjaKel
@VanjaKel 2 года назад
Yep, heard it, thought the very same thing. Don't forget, "all of the ice dancers in this final group are at the same level".
@LexyMay93
@LexyMay93 2 года назад
Agree! Ted was always quite nice to listen to at the Junior events but his bias here got me really annoyed with him.
@asikameryl775
@asikameryl775 2 года назад
I am sorry, but this is totally unfair for the empress liza. Shes been consistent throughout the season, the politics disgrace the sport. When i heard Ted said “probably it’s her last performance” just before liza’s skate, i just know the game was rigged
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
100%
@futfolt
@futfolt 2 года назад
если это несправедливо, то пригласите Лизу вместо участницы из Канады
@fzztsimmons
@fzztsimmons 2 года назад
I would bet my entire house that Davis/Smolkin get entered into the FD portion of the team event. And then we'll have two moulin rouge FDs winning team gold despite D/S knockoff not even worthy of being spoken about in the same sentence as V/Ms. Ugh. I actually can't believe Eteri infiltrated ice dance, is nothing sacred now?? Also devastated for Liza but so proud she finished with an incredible skate in front of a home crowd. For everyone who called her FS tacky and questioned her choice - the crowd reception was exactly why she went for it. They love her and fully responded. Loved the portrait! Hope the Empress starts throwing down some quads next season, she'll have nothing to lose!
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Come on. Really? I mean this isn’t the first time I hear this so maybe it’s me who doesn’t get it. With ice dance as competitive as it is this year, they’re going to put that girl who can’t hold an edge for more than a second and just .. literally humiliate themselves globally like that? And you guys think that they can get gold! I don’t know I have eyes and I I can’t not see what I’m seeing: there’s no way they can win anything like that! I just thought that RusFed Wanted to send them for experience. Putting them in the team event would be asking for Public embarrassment. No? Maybe I’m the only one..🤷🏻‍♀️
@hopeelizabethan
@hopeelizabethan 2 года назад
You speak the truth and I love it! Such a great time listening. Have you considered a live feed after a big event like Russian Nationals or the Olympics? Might be fun 😉👏
@Chastaken
@Chastaken 2 года назад
Pairs event was the best event! Finally B/K skated clean and M/G breaking the curse. I'm sad for P/K, I think they deserve the spot much more than T/M. And happy that chaotic Mark won. Misha is still the number one. Sad for Dima, he is one of the most talented Russian men but I think he is injured, he can do better.
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 года назад
Tbh I still think T/M deserve the spot. Yes they can never skate clean but when they do skate both programs clean they are the best Russian pair. Their technique on everything is perfect, they have perfect lines, and everything looks clean and polished. P/K are yet to have that classy polished look that T/M have. Everything they do although being very difficult, is messy and disorganised at times. I suggest you go watch T/M sp at the Olympics and you will see why they are the best Russian pair when they skate cleanly
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Pairs was very exciting!
@mkp158
@mkp158 2 года назад
We are all sad for Dima. It appears that he isn't just injured. He is also suffering from covid consequences both on psychological and physical levels. Hopefully, he will overcome it. However, my personal perception is that he is ✔checked out.
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 when did they skate both programs clean though? I literally cannot remember the last time that happened. Chaotic mark made the best of the messy man’s indeed. I’m glad Kolyada brought back that free program. I wish he didn’t struggle so much with the jumps as I like his skating a lot. B/K had a very Olympic and very Russian free and they were my fave at this event.
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou never, but they skated the SP at the Olympic team event and the pairs event clean scoring an 82 and 81 so they can skate clean…… sometimes
@shmyshmys
@shmyshmys 2 года назад
EXCUSE ME Scherbakova earned her inflated scores by not embarrassing Eteri and going to Plushenko 😅 Medvedeva sneaking herself on the world team over Tuk and her lutz edge conveniently not called so she'd make the bronze over Rika is often forgotten 👀 Manifesting Tuk for Worlds since I assume half of the Eteri girls are gonna be burned out (sadly). I hope Plush and Yana go all in in future seasons, Plush has some good skaters coming up. I'm over Eteri. The enemy of my enemy is my friend etc. ETA - I totally got your red hair Dave
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Lmao, yes she does deserve some bonus for being the only 3A to not detour to Plush! Dave should never put Anna at bottom of pyramid just for that !! 😂
@evamasters5028
@evamasters5028 2 года назад
@chienandou: really? My impression is that eteri expects loyalty, but doesn't bother to return in kind. Why should she? She is the queen, the puppeteer, the boss. Madam Cruella. If we look at history, a skater is favored only as long as she wins... I don't recall Zagitova staying in top position of the pyramid or otherwise after that "embarrassing" grand prix... Anna will be shoveled away and called lazy when the time comes. Sadly, probably soon now. The question is if before or after the O.
@olgasmirnova4588
@olgasmirnova4588 2 года назад
У Туктамышевой отсутствует хореография и она прыгает лип, плюс в недокруты. Кихира тогда завалила всё, что было можно и нельзя. А Загитову повезли в аэропорт с мигалками, вместо Туктамышевой. Туктамышева должна была ехать на ЧМ, а не Загитова. Медведева своё место на ЧМ подтвердила.
@savanahbabyyyy
@savanahbabyyyy 2 года назад
What? Out of all the girls Liza has the worst base value and no 3-3 combo jumps????? She is the weakest Russian. Maiia outscored her with an 80 in tech. They robbed Maiia by giving Liza 64 base value a 14 point GOE boost and she still lost to Maiia!!!!! They overscored Liza. Anna has 3 triple triple combos. Liza had zero. Is David an actual skater? How does he not know this? Tuk is weak sauce. Kaori Sakomoto can easily beat Liza with no ultra-c. That's how weak Liza is if you remove the 3A. If you remove Anna's 4F she's still unreachable. If you remove tuk's 3A (because she fails on them for the last few years. Underotations in her 3A and bad spins at level 3 most times. It is a miracle this season when she reaches level 4). She is the weakest russian. Even Ksenia S. beat her in the short program but they screwed Ksenia in GOE and PCS. Liza sucks and is over scored. Wakaba can beat her too without a 3A at this point. The weakest russian rolling her hips is the only thing she can bring to the table.
@karinacabrera1833
@karinacabrera1833 2 года назад
Yaaaassss! Highly anticipated This and That! Thank you for the video. Shout out to our girl Wakaba for making the Olympic team!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Our pleasure!
@LiliyaUgay
@LiliyaUgay 2 года назад
As a long-time Liza's fan (and glad this channel changed their attitude to her thanks to Jonathan's SC attendance), I did not feel that she lost this competition unfairly. I still cannot understand why she came to this, most important for her dream, competition without 3-3, which she was doing both in her SP and LP at Rostelecom. Of course, in fair judging, Shcherbakova (with at least 2 or 3 URs unmarked, and objectively, very weak this time PCS-wise in free) should have been somewhere behind Muravieva and maybe even behind Khromych, but she is a WC, and actually received not too-much-lower scores with similar competition at the Worlds. Liza knew that without quads this season she had to give it all, so why, why 3-2? She lost 12-14 points in SP on 3A and the combination, and still got 71, which was plenty for that skate. She would have been second after SP if did it clean, and then, even without 3-3 in LP, would have gotten higher PCS performing after Anna, and then I believe she would have scored above Anna overall. She just needed to repeat ANY of her previous performances of both programs she did so well this season. I am sure it is very difficult to maintain the top shape for so long when you are not 15. It was such a pity and shame that GPF was cancelled for Liza who tried so hard to make it despite Eteri clearly intentionally assigned Valieva to her for both GP events. It turned out that Trusova in some way had a benefit of the injury, because she had time to rest and relaunch. Anna started her season later, but she knew after SP she could repeat her WC performance here and still be ahead of Liza, so she was not trying hard. She is clever. It does not seem Mishin is as good of a strategist as Tutberidze in terms of knowing when to get someone in top shape or when an athlete can relax. It seems like his athletes start seasons a bit too early and peak in October/November and then, reasonably, are exhausted and on the recess by the time of RN. One can see how it worked 10-20 years ago, when Nats were so much easier, and Euros were so prestigious. Eteri's athletes tend to be most vulnerable at Euros - at least in all seasons before except for 2018; and that would be a good strategy now too because I doubt any of them, with the inflation they always get, could possibly lose it to clean Loena. And I highly doubt that after the sweep at Europeans, no matter the actual performances, federation would do anything to change this selection for Olympic games. Of course the ice is slippery, the injuries are so frequent in this sport, but they are also smart and Eteri now having only three, not six, women will be very cautious. In any case, I would actually be interested to see what would happen if Tuktamysheva moves to Tutberidze... whether she could actually pull out the quads at competitions then and what kind of scores would she be getting? There is not much too lose for her after this season, and it would be another "challenge" Tutberidze could be interested in.
@ileana823100
@ileana823100 2 года назад
Eteri would not even know how to train an adult female skater like liza , and its a good thing liza wont change coaches. Eteri would be the end of her career .
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
@@ileana823100 well to be fair if she moved to anyone, it could be said by default that the coach was be the end of her career. Eteri did say in an interview recently that she would’ve wanted to have Tuktik and that she would have her jumping quads if she worked with her but it wasn’t her style to steal students or wouldn’t have been politically right or something like that. I somehow don’t see this, but I suppose anything can happen.
@LiliyaUgay
@LiliyaUgay 2 года назад
@@1chienandalou she said she wouldn't invite her because of coach ethics. However, it doesn't mean that she wouldn't take her if Liza herself asked. Or if Mishin would retire, which is expected in his respectable age. It really seems like Liza is doing the maximum of what she can do at this moment, but the Russian ladies field for the next Olympics will be even worse than ever despite new age restrictions. Three Sofias, Petrosyan and Zhilina, plus I'm pretty sure Valieva and Trusova will stay for a little longer - it would be pointless for Liza to stick around for another cycle unless she changes something drastically.
@LiliyaUgay
@LiliyaUgay 2 года назад
@@ileana823100 This exactly I think she could take her and really try hard. Eteri likes to take challenges and show off to accusers that she can do basically anything.
@ileana823100
@ileana823100 2 года назад
@@LiliyaUgay eteri doesnt want to try ,dont you get that she doesnt want to consider an individual approach to adult skaters over 18 whose bodsy are simply not made for hundreds of repetitions after repetition.
@TheReneex
@TheReneex 2 года назад
I am always perusing to find your latest videos and couldn't wait for your commentary. On the most anticipated competition before the 2022 Olympics; the Russian Nationals. Well as to be expected, the top three ladies of Eteri Tutberidze's camp. Valieva, Trusova and Scherbakova ended up receiving the top three ordinals, going into the European Championship. Honestly, Scherbakova was scored to high and i am saddended that Kostornaya was absent from this event. would have been quite imoressive to see the third member of Three A competing against Valieva, the most consistent skater of the Eteri camp.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
🙏🙏
@user-yi8rt5zq9e
@user-yi8rt5zq9e 2 года назад
Alyona injured her hand She will stay for another four years, we will be able yo enjoy het skating
@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122
@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122 2 года назад
@@user-yi8rt5zq9e She has absolutely no chance! She didn't have it last season and not even this season, and next season will be even tougher. How can you possibly imagine that? With what content? WIth her 3 lutz 2 toe combination??
@user-yi8rt5zq9e
@user-yi8rt5zq9e 2 года назад
@@tunde-ilonakrasznai7122 Why does her couch want her to stay?They might know better Lets wait and see Her way of skating is the best one That is for sure
@stsin7
@stsin7 2 года назад
Thank you guys for supporting Liza 🤗
@o_valencia3038
@o_valencia3038 2 года назад
I have been waiting for this! I also got a noise complaint from all the screaming I had due to the Russian and Japanese championships.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Enjoy!!!! Are you serious about the noise complaint?! I love it!
@candyc3314
@candyc3314 2 года назад
I literally had to calm down after watching rus nats. It was so intense and such a roller coaster ride.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@asvegas777
@asvegas777 2 года назад
Here’s my thoughts on ladies: Anna is struggling (to me not just growth or technique related problems but likely due to injury/ies). Eteri/RusFed still gave her the chance. But if in the next several weeks she doesn’t show significant improvement, they will likely announce an injury and withdrawal and send an alternate. That way the reigning national champ and much loved graceful skater isn’t disgraced, (she fought her best!) *and* given it will likely be Liza, the story of “we also have woman skaters with longevity” can also go to the Olympics. Win/win for Russia! I think Eteri is pissed at Alyona for not skating with a broken hand not bc she would have won, but bc she knows Anna (and/or Sasha) are injured/shaky and if she had at least participated she would be able to be considered an alternate along with Liza. She wants her girls to sweep podium and had Aliona skated “heroically with a broken hand”, against all odds kind of story, and if she was in decent shape by the Olympics, she could have arguably been an alternate of choice, even over Liza in the event Anna/Sasha (or even Kamila) got injured or sick or something else unforeseen in the meantime... Now they don’t have much of a case to make for Aliona and given Maia bombed at nationals and is inconsistent, Liza would fairly be the alternate. And like I started with, there is a pretty notable probability, despite the berth they gave her at nationals, Anna may withdraw by the Olympics. Whether this will be her choice or not I don’t know. She does have some tenacity but does seem to be on her last legs, halfway metaphorically speaking and I feel bad for her….😕
@MsRumex
@MsRumex 2 года назад
Well, if Tutberidze wants to have whole podium, Maya (Khromyh) should have performed better.
@anthonydolio8118
@anthonydolio8118 2 года назад
Thank you guys, once again, for a great discussion. I could not survive this Olympic season without you.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@alexac3098
@alexac3098 2 года назад
Pausing right at the beginning here to say HOW MUCH I would LOVE Zhenya to be Tatiana Tarasova's spiritual successor as Russian figure skating commentator. I mean I would be here every day of the week and twice on Sundays for that.
@BrentWolgamott
@BrentWolgamott 2 года назад
Queen Liza REIGNS SUPREME! (Even if she’s not on the Olympic team?)
@KingJasonSlots
@KingJasonSlots 2 года назад
💯!!!
@Rosa-ln1uo
@Rosa-ln1uo 2 года назад
Jonathan I agree with you about Kondratiyuk. It was amazing, actually according to telegram channel before Mark’s FS someone from the audience shouted “do it for the art!!” (Давай! За искусство!)
@yeseniagonzalez4610
@yeseniagonzalez4610 2 года назад
I was waiting for this, can't wait to hear your guys opinions! ☺
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
❤️❤️
@arlettetrinidad5156
@arlettetrinidad5156 2 года назад
Thank you. Been refreshing my notifications for the past hour. 😍 Finally.😊
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
❤️❤️
@giustinidean
@giustinidean 2 года назад
Gentlemen, you are a perfect commentating team. Wonder what you'd be like "live" in these events? When Dave is in deep analysis of the political storylines and poking below the surface like Rigoletto, it would be useful to have thought bubbles for Jonathan. Love to know what he's really thinking but won't say. Clearly, he's the best partner for Dave because he lets your riffs go unchallenged until their logical conclusion. Jonathan gives Dave so much room to lay it down. I bet Jonathan would be the best boyfriend. Just saying.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
He is the best!
@amyl6426
@amyl6426 2 года назад
Agreed! You two make a great duo! I love your commentary !! ♥️♥️♥️
@1chienandalou
@1chienandalou 2 года назад
Ahhah agreed! I love Jonathan. We always seem to agree, even silently. He’s kinda my imaginary boyfriend like that I guess. 😆
@user-hk4hh9bg6k
@user-hk4hh9bg6k 2 года назад
Proud of being in the crowd on rhythmic dance. The booing was much louder than showed on TV
@eljj7968
@eljj7968 2 года назад
Did you see the ladies live too? Curious what the crowd sounded like in person. Could hear everyone chanting ‘Liza, Liza’ after the free, sounded way louder than the eteri girls.
@user-hk4hh9bg6k
@user-hk4hh9bg6k 2 года назад
@@eljj7968 Sadly was only on the first day of the competition. Buying tickets was really hard because all of them were bought by ticket resellers. Tickets to women program cost more than 150$ 🙄
@annabondaruk4583
@annabondaruk4583 2 года назад
@@eljj7968 She is training in Sankt-Petersburg, competition took place in her city…. And majority of public respects her, and supports for being so long time in sport… So they are clapping due to respect regardless who is their favorite among stronger skaters
@BillyWhaler
@BillyWhaler 2 года назад
Russia’s lack of inner voice truly paid off this year: the cranky rhythmic gymnastic sisters, Danny G, EP, Eteri, Med Vs Zag. Well done.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 года назад
That interview of Dina saying it was unfair….. they are just used to being over scored so the first time they were scored fairly, they called it cheating. And I remember Dina wining a competition with a drop as well.
@DeepSeas..
@DeepSeas.. 2 года назад
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 to be fair, the result was close and Dina made no major mistakes and came into it as the three-time reigning world champion, a feat only accomplished by a handful of gymnasts. She wasn’t at her best but no one in that code had her difficulty and fluidity (except maybe her sister) and certainly not Linoy. Dina’s the superior gymnast and could typically win with a drop because of her difficulty and execution, so to lose to someone who’s simply not as good and had a big mistake was pretty shocking. If you understand the code you’ll know that a 23+ score for ribbon with a drop is extremely generous.
@Bella-po8vh
@Bella-po8vh 2 года назад
@@DeepSeas.. except Linoy actually had the greater difficulty in her routine compared to Dina. The delay of the Olympics was really good for Linoy imo because she really increased her difficulty since then while the delay of the Olympics was really hard for Dina because her injuries were wearing her down more and more, and she basically had to be taped from head to bottom. Linoy is also well known for having very difficult routines so she could afford to have a drop just as Dina did in the world championships 2018 before and beat Linoy rightfully with greater difficulty. Although Dina did outscore/and have greater difficulty than Linoy on ribbon, it was not enough to outscore her for the rest of the competition, as Linoy had greater difficulty overall and could afford a drop (especially a drop like hers which wasn’t very costly since Linoy didn’t even have to move to pick her apparatus up so at max by the rules Linoy could have lost 0.8 but probably much less), and the lead Linoy had on Dina by the final round was more than 0.8, so the drop was something Linoy could afford and still win.
@ravanne3746
@ravanne3746 2 года назад
What strikes me after watching the Russian women (besides the ridiculous scoring) is that none of them are going to have any longevity in the sport. There is a price that is going to be paid for all these quads at such a young age and what we saw with Evgenia Medvedeva's retirement due to a chronic back injury, this should be a huge warning. I almost never see Russian female skaters survive more than a single quad in the seniors. Medvedeva and Alinia Zagitova were the top skaters and they're both done with competitive skating at the ages of 22 and 19. Eteri Tutberidze might be able to get amazing technical programs out of her skaters, but she ultimately destroys them physically in the end. These dazzling 16 and 17 year olds will be so physically damaged and quickly be replaced by the newest 15 years olds that they won't be able to keep up with physically.
@shantarakelian1998
@shantarakelian1998 2 года назад
Timestamps are in progress and I’ll need a couple hours! So sorry for the inconvenience
@kamila7217
@kamila7217 2 года назад
You're right about the medal threat for bronze Dave. People forget but the season where Zagitova was a mess until Worlds, they had to tank Kaori on the GP to protect her spot. Kaori's been around all quad, made it to the GPF, and she's one of the few skaters the Japanese fed chooses to protect. And judges give her GOE and solid PCS even when she makes mistakes. Anna could be in trouble.
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
Anna seems vulnerable.
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 года назад
If Anna performs the way she did at these nationals, kaori and even wakaba can beat her. Of course the judges will protect Anna at all cost but when will it become to obvious? They can do whatever they want at nationals but they can’t pull stunts to this extent at the Olympics
@natalievangilder4688
@natalievangilder4688 2 года назад
@@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 Well they shouldn't be doing this at the Olympics BUT China is friendly with Russia and the checks may start flowing. I would really love a Kaori or Wakaba medal, finally supporting and rewarding correct technique and skating skills. How I wish we could import the Russian ladies to Japan for some skating skills, or get in Tracy Wilson.
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934
@toxic-low-key-ghost7934 2 года назад
@@natalievangilder4688 you’re right but why would the Russian ladies especially eteri girls even bother improving their skating skills when they know as long as they don’t fall on every jump their pcs scores will sky rocket. So sad.
@serbru7662
@serbru7662 2 года назад
@@natalievangilder4688 Darling, 2019 Saitama, Russian ladies were there
@corgeousgeorge
@corgeousgeorge 2 года назад
ANyone else want Ivan Bukin to be their boyfriend? He's so smiley and friendly seeming, ESPECIALLY considering that Russians are not known for their warm natures lol. I mean he has the best hair in all of Ice Dance for sure but his big goofy smile just makes you wanna hug him!
@tanyawade4954
@tanyawade4954 2 года назад
I would gladly take him over cringe Nikita any day!
@hannahdeclerck6825
@hannahdeclerck6825 2 года назад
2:29 mins listening and it already makes my night! Love this!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
@hellsbellsmichelle
@hellsbellsmichelle 2 года назад
This weekend has been eye-rolling, that's for sure! A new Team Captain and Cheerleader in Team Tutberidze! Medvedeva is starting to look more and more like the Duchess of Cambridge. She's turning herself into Russian Royalty. Tuktamysheva is the QUEEN! Love her!
@TheSkatingLesson
@TheSkatingLesson 2 года назад
❤️❤️❤️
@Ash_252
@Ash_252 2 года назад
I agree. Especially when they showed her in between the girls' programs... I think they have a lot of respect for her. She was watching each program very attentively and cheering for the girls. But i dont know what's wrong with Zagi and her snobbish face.
@annemary9680
@annemary9680 2 года назад
@@Ash_252 I think Alina's just uncomfortable since speaking doesn't come naturally to her, she's doing this for the money it brings to her family.
@nacham.2627
@nacham.2627 2 года назад
I feel the same! Zhenya was so supportive towards everyone! She looks like a leader!
@natalievangilder4688
@natalievangilder4688 2 года назад
@@annemary9680 also because they stuck Zagi and Medo together on purpose to try and get drama and clickbait from them. Idek if they really hate each other, like each other, somewhere in-between because their relationship has always "changed" just to support the narrative the RusFed is trying to sell.
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