This and That: 2023 Russian Nationals & 2022 Japanese Nationals (Kamila Valieva, Shoma Uno)

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This weekend, the best skaters in Russia competed at the 2023 Russian Figure Skating Championships and the top skaters in Japan competed at the 2022 All-Japan Figure Skating Championships. It was a weekend filled with highlight performances by Kamila Valieva, Sofia Akatyeva, Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, Adelia Petrosian, Petr Gumenik, Evgeni Semenenko, Mishina and Galliamov, Boikova and Kozlovskii, Tarasova and Morozov, Shoma Uno, Koshiro Shimada, Kazuki Tomono, Kaori Sakamoto, Mai Mihara, Mao Shimada, Rika Kihira, Mana Kawabe, and Kana Muramoto and Daisuke Takahashi. We break down all of the action on the latest edition of 'This and That'.
This and That: 2023 Russian Nationals & 2022 Japanese Nationals (Kamila Valieva, Shoma Uno)
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@hannahma7064 Год назад

Timestamps! (Expand with caution... it's extremely long) 0:00 Opening 1:45 Intro (both championships felt smaller, lower-energy) 3:54 mention of entries for int’l events (4CC, University Games) 6:15 felt like we watched two different sports (edge quality, expression of skaters, what is happening athletically, recovery from injuries) 11:29 RUSNATS Women: Valieva vs Akateva (Kamila emoting a little more now? Sofia has better skating skills) 18:11 trajectory of recovery amongst the women’s event at RUSNAT 19:34 back to Valieva 20:44 3A technique for Akateva, Petrosyan, Valieva 21:50 recovery time, what it might take to be technically perfect and stay consistent, Russian women vs men 24:56 RUSNATS Men 26:26 Semenenko recovery from concussion, physically and psychologically 27:37 Gumennik vs Semenenko (29:11 Tuktamysheva had more artistic performance, Petrosyan, aesthetics, Sofia Muravieva) 32:36 Russian/Soviet women and pairs being very different 33:17 Boikova/Kozlovsky 33:43 Tarasova/Morozov 35:16 Mishina/Galliamov 36:14 B/K 37:14 Freeze, Australian documentary about Katya Alexandrovskaya not accessible with VPN? 40:23 RUSNATS Ice Dance in general, no field 41:36 Mark Kondratiuk withdrawing after the short, looking pained 42:32 Diana/Davis performance at a Christmas show, awesome boots on the ground! 44:41 weird camera on zamboni break at RUSNATS, they should show us the family lol 45:54 Japan 46:05 Riku/Ryuchi had an airline issue 46:24 Women 46:47 Ami Nakai 47:41 Mana Kawabe 48:47 Rika Kihira 49:41 Japanese selection >Worlds- Kaori + Mai + Rinka Watanabe; Kana/Daisuke (50:52, vs Misato/Tim, Lilah/Lewis) >4CC- (58:11) Rinka + Mone Chiba (58:28) + Hana Yoshida; both ice dance teams; Riku/Ryuchi; Koshiro Shimada + Kao Miura + Shun Sato 56:39 doing a 2A after a big jump, much better than eulers and frantic three-jump combos 59:25 Men 1:00:18 Shun Sato 1:00:58 Sota Yamamoto 1:01:31 Shoma is doing well with Lambiel! send Yuma there? perhaps came back too soon 1:06:27 Shoma upset that Koshiro Shimada isn’t sent to worlds (Shoma + Kazuki + Sota) 1:07:42 Kao Miura 1:09:21 Jr Worlds: Kao Miura + Nozumo Yoshioka; Mao Shimada + Ami Nakai; Murakami/Moriguchi 1:09:40 Mao Shimada 1:11:28 University Games: Yuma + Shun + Tatsuya Tsuboi; Rion Sumiyoshi + Kaori + Mai (also: Ting Cui, Dinh Tran, Yelim Kim, Dabin Choi) 1:12:43 Kaori Sakamoto 1:14:23 Mai Mihara 1:15:11 Marin Honda should do solo dance 1:15:32 moment of the week, nod to Italian and French Nationals Happy holidays, everyone!

@shomaunofan8486 Год назад

Yay! Glad I check before posting the same thing! Happy holiday to u too!❤

@norinecook844 Год назад

Thanks for time stamps!

@inocohen5404 Год назад

Many thanks!

@EAC311 Год назад

According to Shoma, the 3A+2A+2A was completely improvised by him mid-performance to make up for the two missed jumps at the beginning, which caused him to run behind on time, but he decided to risk the time penalty to get the extra jump in. Genius!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Very cool!

@dinifroggy Год назад

Wow, I didn't know this. I found it impossible to watch the nationals. I can't wait to see this!

@meganmorris5105 Год назад

The QQ link wasn’t bad. It froze periodically, but I just kept refreshing the screen. However, they showed a Russian exhibition while they resurfaced the ice. And it was about a minute or so behind.

@nicnoodles Год назад

@@meganmorris5105 I consider that to be bad lol. Freezing every 2 minutes was so annoying, and then having to refresh it every time kept missing so much and getting sick of doing it over and over

@meganmorris5105 Год назад

@@nicnoodles I watched the free on laptop on the QQ site. It was honestly much better than watching it on my phone on Safari. On there, QQ froze about every two minutes. I will say there was an ice storm in my area, so that may have had a little to do with the quality.

@lisamaureen5185 Год назад

Yuma's injury to the talus is a tough one. The talus is weight-bearing and takes forever to rehab ( I had a double fracture of the talus and cartilage.) I hope he can return in a healthy manner. Love Shoma, congrats to him, Kaori, Daisuke & Kana. Really enjoyed Mone as well.

@Melissa-yr7fm Год назад

I shattered my talus from skating. Just landed a triple toe. Got a little too excited, too much adrenaline and it just messed up my timing when I went to show a friend. I came out at 2.5 rotations, forward with my right toe pick stuck until the ice. My body kept rotating around my stuck foot. The tib/fib ended up acting as a drill and they drilled into my talus. It made a literal circle opening, with the rest of the bone so shattered. The doctor said it was like trying to make chicken salad out of a chicken. If you need surgery there, they usually cut lengthwise into the tendon on the inside of your ankle as it’s better than cutting the tendon into two pieces, as there is such poor blood supply to the tendons and to bone. It take forever to heal. Even with a top surgeon, plenty of great rehab, (and rehab to this day, 15 years later), the injury still gets swollen and still has issues. Best of luck to Yuma. Talus injuries are one of the worst places to get injured for figure skaters. The talus bone specifically takes 4-8 times a skaters body weight each time a jump is landed. My surgeon told me to stay as lean and fit as possible to help with the talar functionality.

@zackwilson8701 Год назад

unpopular opinion, but does anyone else really enjoy following Sofia Murieva? I know her programs are sort of tacky, but I just think she has the best PCS out of the Russian ladies and the consistency of her triple axel has been impressive. She keeps making small mistakes, but I keep finding myself rooting for her despite disliking Plushenko.

@amethyst5512 Год назад

Her technique is better than the Eteri crowd, but her tacky costumes, programs, and lack of understanding of how to use her height to her advantage make her a hard watch. Maybe she’ll get better at those things with time.

@lyramusica4485 Год назад

You're not alone. Her footwork sequences and spins are AMAZING as well. I do think she does have a better chance of longevity when compared to Kami, Sofia A., and Adelia, simply because of her superior jump technique. She also has some nice musical sensitivity, I just wish she had better programs (the SP is fine but the FP is just horrible).

@KT-ql5ql Год назад

Happy 10 years, The Skating Lesson. Thank you for keeping up the great work.

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Thanks, will do!

@marycoyne1889 Год назад

Wow how time flies!

@bucknut2000 Год назад

@@TheSkatingLesson u should bring back Jenny for a anniversary show , do another skater interview or something

@helenaprout1061 Год назад

Kazuki Tomono officially cured my depressive bout with his performance here. He is such a ray of sunshine, if a bit chaotic 😆

@lc4822 Год назад

Mone is actually a bit more of a standout than even Mao from those juniors, her skating is sooo beautiful ❤️ but they were all amazing!!

@xuanx4937 Год назад

love the part at 51:28 when Dave corrected Jonathan n said he's not being an idiot 😂 true friends these two!!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@romantickangaroo Год назад

According to Russian sources, the word which Valieva encoded in Morse code in her program is "faith" ( "вера" in Russian ).

@NG-ue4th Год назад

I'm just really happy that kazuki tomono made it to the world's team this year, so all my fave charismatic messes are all gonna be there : Shoma (he's actually cleaned up a lot these days still), Jun (love the bond fp), kazuki (don't care what anyone says, actually quite like the free, he's so charming in it) and Kevin (his free has made me emotional every single time I've watched it regardless of the jump content)

@lollypop2414 Год назад

They're all my favorite chaos boys too!

@helenaprout1061 Год назад

@@lollypop2414 chaos boys for the win 😆gotta love them

@3l3llala13 Год назад

I caught a little bit of the Russian Nationals. The top Russian pairs put the current American World Champion to shame. I liked Liza's LP ; It's probably the first LP of hers that I didn't mind watching in its entirety. The top Russian guys were exciting to watch too.

@corgeousgeorge Год назад

Fun fact I learned today that I was NOT expecting: Jonathan Beyer IS a pinky ring kinda guy! Giving us some "Goodfellas" Italian mob, pinky ring, Christmas festive realness!

@bademjoon-c7k Год назад

Just adding update about Shoma being unhappy about the world/4cc selections, today there are news that coaches and skaters were equally unsatisfied with the assignments and JSF held a meeting with skaters and coaches to explain their decisions. The head of the selection committee then promised to explain the selection criteria to each coaches for next season so skaters know what to do if they’re aiming for world/4cc, especially if they don’t have GP assignments prior to national due to reasons like world standing/injuries. There is also speculation that Yuma’s team were hoping for a spot but he’s not even listed for an alternate so they’re one of the dissatisfied party.

@RedShoes29 Год назад

Yuma sat out the entire season because of an injury, his team needs to get their heads out of their asses. Even Yuzuru had to show up for Nationals to qualify for Beijing.

@amethyst5512 Год назад

Yuma should not be surprised. He sat out the whole season and wasn’t close to the podium here. You have to give them something to select you on. Although he clearly needs more time as he wasn’t ready yet, so this is a good thing for him whether he likes it or not. I thought I heard his name for university games, if he really goes to that, he should take it easy with the content and keep his recovery slow and steady.

@hirota505 Год назад

According to the former rules, Yuma was eligible because he has Olympic medals. I do think putting Yuma out is reasonable because it seems that he needs more time to recover from his injuries. However, he risked his career to participate the JNat because there had been a similar case like that before more than once. It could have been understandable for Yuma if he were listed alternate for World/4CC. The lack of respect to the athletes caused this confusion.

@bademjoon-c7k Год назад

@@hirota505 yes I agree and also this is not the first time in Japan an Olympic/world medalist skater sit out gp series and either attend or not attend jnats and still being given a spot. So if it’s true then it’s not totally unreasonable to ask for explanation.

@bademjoon-c7k Год назад

@@RedShoes29 Yuma did attend Jnats this year. Also according to JSF selection criteria Yuma qualifies for a spot because he’s a former Olympic and world medalist and his world standing is higher than Sota/Kazuki/Shun so it’s not totally unreasonable for them to ask for explanation especially if they’re aiming for Yuma to recover by world.

@hirota505 Год назад

Shoma didn’t explain the reason when he was asked at the press conference. Maybe there had been some unsaid rules which were quite political. People speculate that it’s because Koshiro was not selected to the World’s but I don’t think it’s that simple. He said that it’s better not to speak about it further, so we should respect it.

@meganmorris5105 Год назад

It seems like he said what most of the others were thinking. His words also pushed the JSF to discuss things with the athletes. He seems to have pushed them to be more transparent.

@amethyst5512 Год назад

@@meganmorris5105 that is the best thing star athletes can do, use their star power for good.

@meganmorris5105 Год назад

@@amethyst5512 I think he did just that. Well done.

@KoraimaLynn Год назад

Es correcto Shoma no especificó sus palabras pero sí dejó claro que deberían ser claros con el criterio de selección: ¿cuáles son esos criterios? Aquello tranquilizaria a entrenadores y patinadores, por ejemplo la temporada pasada Mai Mihara tuvo buenas participaciones en sus asignaciones en la que no.le fue tan bien fue en nacionales pero ella (Mai) tenía la experiencia de competencias internacionales donde ha tenido buen desempeño, pero la JSF envió a las olimpiadas a Mana Kawabe sin experiencia y recién subiendo de junior, con desempeño por debajo de Mai quien incluso ganó el 4CC, la diferencia la temporada pasada es que Mana era entrenada por Hamada quien es un peso pesado en la JSF.

@kamelenka Год назад

some people from my fan community have seen the documentary about Ekaterina Alexandrovskaya. Apparently she struggled with alcohol abuse. The AUS federation tried to help her and got her a specialist but still Katya's health condition deteriorated. Beginning of 2020 she was diagnosed with epilepsy, bad kidney & liver function, her puls was like 135... She couldnt stay in sports anyway, so she advised Harley to look for a new partner. Meanwhile Harley had to return to Australia because his visa expired...

@thesovgc Год назад

So many Russian athletes have struggled with alcoholism following their careers which has led to premature death. It is so sad 😔

@kamelenka Год назад

@@thesovgc yep this is so true..In the preview of this documentary there is Nina Moser explaining that a student'd better be from a dysfunctional family. Thus they are hungry for victory. I think it's more about how a coach treat this kid and nobody would care about...

@thesovgc Год назад

@@kamelenka that definitely makes a lot of sense!

@skaterboy-cz9wj Год назад

So tragic. She still was Harley's best hope. So young, talented and beautiful. Life is so fragile.

@theprinceoftides6836 Год назад

@@skaterboy-cz9wj Such is life.

@dkeinow Год назад

8:37 Valieva has a more mature body compared with Akatiyeva. She reminded me of Alina competing against Sasha, Anya, and Alena in 2019

@TheFlowMind Год назад

Yep. Alina with a very thin but womanly body in 2919 looked twice the size of those girls. It means that the young ones are barely 40kg.

@patsy1610 Год назад

Maybe 💊 increase her weight? 😬 Muraviova too is 6teen but look mutch more thin than Valieva

@nl887 Год назад

@@patsy1610 no shes always been very tall compared to other skaters

@cyrra8865 Год назад

@@TheFlowMind I believe Anna revealed in an interview that she was only ~60lbs when she landed her first quad.

@ОльгаСорокина-у4й Год назад

@@patsy1610 вы что не знаете, что такое взросление организма? Разве все одинаково взрослеют? Один рост, один вес? Вспомните как изменилась Алиса Лью за несколько месяцев

@thesovgc Год назад

Mone Chiba is my favorite Japanese ladies skater since Mao Asada. Love her! It's a shame she didn't get a shot at Worlds! 😔

@Scarywaxel Год назад

She'll be at four continents! And it's not like she only has one shot at Worlds..

@maryanikoswara2672 Год назад

@@Scarywaxel next season Wakaba will return to compete. The allocation for GP assignment will be hard since both Hana and Mone will move up to the senior circuit. Her assignment to 4CC with Hana is like a sign from JSF for the next season. Who comes out with better result in 4CC will get the ticket for the GP. This strategy is also implemented last season when JSF sent both Rion and Rinka to JWC. Before Wakaba wdn Rinka didn't have any GP assignment since her result was below Rion at Tallin. I love Mone's skating. I just hope that JSF will see her potential no matter what the result ahead. The field in Japan is so deep 😭😭

@marcgalvan9360 Год назад

Happy holidays to both of you. I was highly anticipating this to complete my Christmas.

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Happy holidays!

@daphenaxa Год назад

Didnt Shoma after training with eteri say something like "now I know what kind of person she is and she knows what kind of person I am"

@lollypop2414 Год назад

Yes he did.

@karolinap4498 Год назад

Did he? Where?

@daphenaxa Год назад

@@karolinap4498 not sure where exactly. It was a translation someone did on Twitter. I think it was in the same interview where he said she wasn't that strict as he had been told (paraphrasing).

@karolinap4498 Год назад

@@daphenaxa the only instant I've seen him talking about Eteri was in the interview with Kanako (during The Ice I think), he said it was suuper strict with a little smirk and didn't elaborate. I'd take all twitter translations with a grain of salt. But thank you for replying and let me know if you manage to find the interview.

@RN-nc1tt Год назад

I was not expecting to see the Wednesday Adams exhibition program. It was a side of Kamila I’ve never seen before. I thought it was cool!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

It was!

@ingai7014 Год назад

Was not :homophobic country ruzzia ,and hypocritical music choice while banning LGBT in their own country

@ingai7014 Год назад

Guess :target reached ,she is trying hard for Western sympathy,especially America ,before court decision,homophobic country quickly can forget their “values” and propaganda when it’s convenient for them

@quatele Год назад

It was a crowd pleasing performance that I have not seen from Kamila before. It raises the bar. I want to see more.

@ingai7014 Год назад

@@quatele crowd seems don’t mind gay American product they openly opposed and despite,how convenient and hypocritical

@romantickangaroo Год назад

It is not true these days that Russian lady skaters with quads are essentially limited to one rink (i.e. Tutberidze) as you suggested. Other clubs try to catch up and now have girls who already demonstrated quads this season. Several girls in Plushenko camp do quads, although most of them are juniors. Gorbacheva from another club did a fantastic 4S at the nationals. Zinina from yet another club does regularly 4T. Samodelkina from a different team is capable of quads, but was not successful lately. And of course, I do not even mention the Tutberidze girls here. It is easy to say that they are on drugs. The advantage Russians have is that figure skating is probably number one sport for girls. They are motivated to be famous like Zagitova or Scherbakova or Trusova or Valieva, which also brings a lot of money from sponsors and lucrative jobs on TV. It is easier to find talents among a large pool of skaters than from a small pool like in most other countries. And the conditions the advanced skaters have are super. Plushenko has his own territory with rinks and private houses for a few best skaters to live next to the rink without wasting time in traffic. Trusova and Kostornaya lived in such houses when they were with him. The new rinks for Tutberidze are also under construction.

@stingyshannon701 Год назад

In Russia they get some of the best female athletes gravitating to the sport. In the US, just indulged children with wealthy parents get the opportunity to skate so a tiny talent pool. Also, someone from a humble background has more motivation, determination, greater commitment than someone born into a wealthy family.

@melannca-v4v Год назад

Is Kostornoia giving pairs a try or is this for show. What I’ve seen so far looks amazing.

@RedShoes29 Год назад

It's for a show. She has mentioned before that she'll only consider pairs when she fully decides that she doesn't want to do singles anymore because it's easy to get into pairs but much more difficult to transition back to singles.

@1alicepb Год назад

i think 4cc will be fun! Don’t have to have the big names for it to be a good competition. I was at 4cc last season except for the Koreans there was no big names but it’s still one of the best competitions I’ve been to. I got to see skaters that I might not see at big championships and also got new favorites.

@martaszczesiak6606 Год назад

Mozolev's Led Zeppelin short programme 🥇

@Roryhereigo Год назад

Yesss

@corgeousgeorge Год назад

That turtleneck Dave is wearing today looks just so stylish, lush, comfy and EXPENSIVE! Werq! That wine color on the bottom and the lighter more of a brick red up top?! Loves!!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Thank you!!! It isn't one of my most expensive! It was a Christmas present and it is very comfy.

@corgeousgeorge Год назад

@@TheSkatingLesson Well it LOOKS expensive and that is the important thing ha ha! I'm sure Tarasova would approve as well as Marie France.

@mihaillenivov485 Год назад

Not a single word about Russian rising star Veronika Yametova so far! Of cause, Veronica has no quads so far, but quads aren"t everything, right?

@stingyshannon701 Год назад

All the girls lack artistry, technique is terrible, all on drugs, but didn't stop them watching the Russians Nationals from start to finish and dedicating the first 45 minutes to the event.

@L.Spencer Год назад

they all look the same, couldn't tell them apart. Except Valieva has matured (in a good way), Elizabeta gave a nice performance, too, for a change.

@mihaillenivov485 Год назад

@@L.Spencer No, Yametova doesn't look like anybody else, not in Russia, not in the whole world! Speed - Veronika is so fast, full of energy and joy of skating, with a trick of her own. She skates cleanly, haven't a single serious mistake throughout whole season, always cheerful and smiling, people love her!

@ingai7014 Год назад

Don’t worry :they will ,once she get triple Axel!💯🙌

@ginanitta625 Год назад

You are right Dave with mao Shimada… she’ll be one to watch in the future… it also remaided of young Asada ! Well let’s see how she blooms as the years go by.

@RedShoes29 Год назад

I hope she doesn't burn out like Marin did. Marin was the same, gorgeous skater, terrific skating skills, huge hype then she just....faded.

@skatefan9495 Год назад

With the age limits, Mao won't be eligible for the Olympics until she is 21. I hope she is able to continue. She is a breath of fresh air.

@yueyjon4422 Год назад

Ikura KUSHIDA (8th Women’s) was my surprise favourite! Jonathan, you should check out her free to Samson and Dalila, so very Kristi 1991. To think THAT skate resulted in 8th shows the depth. Wow. KanaDai ❤ Kaori ❤ Tomoki Hope Mana Kawabe will do “Much Betta” next season!

@gsmushki Год назад

Please clarify how you can explain the inconsistencies and overall lower technical level of Russian men’s event (when compared to international men’s events) with respect to the Russian doping. Men are not doping? Or the drug combo is more effective in female teenagers age 13-15?

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

There appear to be psychological and physical differences that allow for females to peak at a younger age and handle the training loads and control. Men peak later and are not as adept in either area.

@noran7809 Год назад

"psychological and physical differences" OK but the question was about doping.

@mai3334 Год назад

A lot of the men try to jump with proper technique whereas Eteri girls are more concerned with just making the rotations in the air and calling it a “quad __.”

@Nikas-S Год назад

@@mai3334 So, it's not about doping, but about technique? Or does doping help only with the wrong technique?

@Cooltiger28 Год назад

I want to say happy Christmas 🎄 and happy Boxing Day everyone. I am super excited for the next as the blade turns

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Happy holidays!

@maryloureiff6489 Год назад

Koshiro has been w Lambiel for yrs and I do not see great posture or stretch. I think he is delightful...but, he needs more work..Tell me how Sota's SS are better than Kazuki's..I do not see it.

@lollypop2414 Год назад

I don't think Koshiro's posture is bad, but I do think a lot of what makes a skater beautiful, or artistic, is inherent to the skater themselves. Also, it's easier to have time to work on the little things when a skater is consistent with the big elements (Shoma for example being capable of 5 quads, solid footwork, etc.) than when a skater is still trying to master the big technical elements (Koshiro needing to be more consistent with jumps, more crisp with footwork, etc.). Also worth noting, Shoma did ballet for years growing up and quit when he became a senior level skater (but Lambiel has pushed him into picking that up again). It's apparent in his posture and extension. I'm guessing not all of the Japanese men have had a lot of ballet training, and obviously some would have more natural ability in ballet than others too. Kazuki had worked so hard to improve his SS over the years! I think he and Sota are close when it comes to basic skating. Kazuki is definitely a better performer, but Sota is better with spins.

@Magical_turtle Год назад

Dave, I also wondered if Valieva’s hoodie moment was a malfunction or if it was symbolic. Was she saying she’s no longer going to hide her face in shame? It crossed my mind too. Because it didn’t look like she tried very hard to pull the hood up. Maybe we’ll never know! 🤔

@mai3334 Год назад

Didn’t she make her usual “oops, whatever” sheepish face when she couldn’t pull it up?

@Magical_turtle Год назад

@@mai3334 oh is that a thing that she does? Lol! Yes I noticed and wondered both ways. Was it a look of frustration or was it bad acting. 😅 Probably a mistake. But I wondered.

@alexac3098 Год назад

I wondered as well, but I read somewhere that it was intentional.

@KamilaValieva-fan Год назад

She said in interview clearly afterwards that she doesn’t need to hide from the hood any more.

@Magical_turtle Год назад

Oh thank you for the info! I am English speaking and haven't seen a translation of her interview yet. I guess I wasn't wrong to think so in the first place. Cheers and Happy New Year all

@emilys.6199 Год назад

RE: Semenenko and miraculous recoveries. It's not just the concussion from April. He said on Sunday that after the test skates he had a severe knee injury. To be more exact, scans showed that only 1/5 of the condyle remained intact, so almost a full fracture. The test skates were three months ago. I'm not too surprised that he recovered so fast considering Shcherbakova once went from almost passing out after a short program to skating a free program with two quads as if she were a marathon runner in peak shape and that recovery only took 24 hours. 3 months must be an eternity for these people.

@alexac3098 Год назад

It speaks volumes about how serious Daria Usascheva’s injury from last year was though, since she still hasn’t returned to competition.

@angieortizurena3327 Год назад

Those “smell salts” they use in Doping-land are really miraculous! 😂

@heyhey3765 Год назад

At first, with valievas hood I thought she couldn’t get it open or something. But then I was like is this supposed to be on purpose, like she’s at the end of an arch for whatever story they were going for. Hmmmmm

@FantasianPeople Год назад

Mark Kondratiuk got an injury at the end of November and was at a hospital for two weeks after.

@andreagoldstein4070 Год назад

I'm not sure why T/M are still competing after the OG. So Eteri can have a pair team? They are clearly the #3 team behind Moskvina's. Speaking of which, I thought she was retiring after the OG, too?

@insi4547 Год назад

T/M were considered to be #3 team too during the Olympic season. Yet they ranked higher than Moskvina's teams at the OG.

@skaterboy-cz9wj Год назад

@@insi4547 T/M are not clearly no. 3. They do not have the tech elements but they are the most beautiful team to watch. I fclean they culd win Russian nats and worlds - in fact not clean they are better than the American champs and Japanese pairs.

@荻野恵子-p8g Год назад

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@laurielynne2006 Год назад

Thank you for posting during the holidays! You’re so good to us❤❤

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Happy holidays!

@Amy-bl8sp Год назад

I was able to watch the Katya and Harley documentary with a VPN. I had to sign up and login to the Australian TV network website (ABC?) but I eventually got to watch it. It was very well done, but devastating. :(

@janef220 Год назад

Are you able to upload it

@lindaallison5338 Год назад

The global skating community need to see it. Many lessons to take from it. I keep thinking about Katya’s mum - she’s lost her husband and her only child . Tragic.

@BethH992 Год назад

I managed to watch the Australian documentary in the UK using surfshark. I think it was well put together and sensitively done, although honestly I think they could even have unpacked the coaches' abusive dynamic even further. Overall it was just utterly, utterly tragic

@strawberrylime33 Год назад

Dave, I found it so true when u mentioned how kamila recovered so rapidly, yet Yuma and rika have taken longer to get back to their previous level. It can't be that Yuma and rika are lazy. You're right.

@nl887 Год назад

It also depends on the injuries there is also so many legal drugs to help recover

@amethyst5512 Год назад

I still find all of Scherbakova’s recoveries the most impressive. Really shows the power of xenon gas. That girl literally was fueled by drugs, liquid nutrition, & steadfast determination not to let anyone down. Still couldn’t fix that dead hanging free leg though.

@ilanplazola1715 Год назад

Could you spent more time talking about the wonderful program Liza presented, wow I haven't seen such a beautiful program in women's skating since Mao Asada and Kotsner (pre-Etery's girls). I love her maturity and her emotions, it was like a love letter to her sport.

@annaiz9524 Год назад

Wow! What a magnificent interpretation of her program!

@maryloureiff6489 Год назад

You know what my moment of the week was..Kazuki Tomono..at the Hollywood Bowl..My performative persimmon..He made Christmas for me..

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@gymerin Год назад

I do not understand how Russia, with it's illustrious history in ballet, continues to produce some of the most horrific music and choreography for these skaters. It's such a shame because they have all of the choreographic resources to produce quality content. Instead we get lawnmowers and bee swarms.

@SecondPlaceYuya Год назад

Because jumping wins. Actual skating is meaningless in 2022.

@gymerin Год назад

@@SecondPlaceYuya This problem isnt just recent.

@evanperilstein5308 Год назад

Because modern day Russians are tacky AF. Have you seen the label whoring by the nouveau riche Russians?

@amyl6426 Год назад

@@SecondPlaceYuya Perhaps. But it has made skating boring AF .

@anastasiaignatyeva8687 Год назад

I guess they are not involving outside choreographers as they want to get all the funding for doing the programs themselves. So the most notorious choreographers are Averbuckh, Gleikhegauz and Mikhailov. Ballet choreographers are rarely involved.

@maryloureiff6489 Год назад

Kao did not skate like he did at JPN Open, SA/SC..He is unrefined, strong..which is why I love that beastly program for him.Koshira was 9th and 4th at his GP..Kazuki was 3rd and 4th (NHK) in a field that was more stacked than Jayne Mansfield..

@rachelgates509 Год назад

Great video! You’re dramatic reading, Dave, of Natalie‘s post was funny. Y’all talking about those great performances from back in the day got me thinking what one of my favorites was. I have many but I’ll never forget Mao Asada‘s free skate at the Sochi Olympics! I was crying with her at the end thinking, “ that’s right girl, show them who you are!“ lol I am so dramatic. Plus I love an underdog moment!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

It was a great moment, indeed!

@thesovgc Год назад

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year, Dave and Jonathan! 💗 🤗

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Happy holidays!

@alexg4675 Год назад

Very bright Russian nationals except ice-dances. Semenenko's revamp in FS is definitely succeeded. And what a catchy Valieva's Wednesday on gala!

@kadv2172 Год назад

I loved her gala Programm, very entertaining 😊

@ЛюдмилаКовалец-н8л Год назад

@@kadv2172 she is take a dope still!

@nl887 Год назад

@@ЛюдмилаКовалец-н8л no proof she is so shut up and leave her alone

@Roryhereigo Год назад

@@ЛюдмилаКовалец-н8л how do you know that?

@alexg4675 Год назад

@@ЛюдмилаКовалец-н8л лично подмешивали?

@eljj7968 Год назад

Curious with the Russian doping situation why whatever they're taking that seems to allow them to train longer/harder seems to work for the women but not the men? Different coaches and training regimes? The men in recent years have been so so inconsistent and to be honest pretty sloppy, which I find kind of interesting. Or perhaps Eteri just has some magic pills everyone else doesn't lol. Kamila looks like a completely different person physically from the start of this year - she looks like an adult woman now, very much like Alina in the year following the Olympics. It's such a rapid change I have to wonder if they just stop giving them puberty blockers after the Olympics are done or something... In saying that, I actually really like both Kamila's programmes this year (tacky starts and endings aside), she is interpreting a lot more (her gala programme is really interesting too - not my cup of tea, but by far the most I have ever seen her emote). That quad toe really is stunning, I actually was like ' WOW' when I saw it. Totally agree Russia and Japan were like watching two different worlds though. In Japan, I hate to say this but I thought Mao looked slow :/ Sorry Dave lol. Her jumps are also quite small although the landings are beautiful. I still much prefer Kaori's speed and flow and just overall big beautiful skating. Mao is definitely a little ray of sunshine, but still looks very young and 'small' compared to some of the others. Also, props to Shoma for finally doing a quad-triple and for doing three combinations in his free! I can't remember the last time both of those things happened in one programme haha!

@evanperilstein5308 Год назад

I agree that as beautiful as Mao Shimada's skating is, she is definitely slower than the other top juniors and seniors.

@anastasiaignatyeva8687 Год назад

I think the other camps dont have the same government support and in the case of doping may be dismissed like Sotskova was dissmissed from competing and coaching for 10 years although she was not competing.

@johnl405 Год назад

It is interesting they seem to have the science really down for the women, but it doesn't seem to work with the men. Maybe there's just a bigger room for potential with the women (girls)?

@anastasiaignatyeva8687 Год назад

@@johnl405 I think Dave is exaggerating by saying that everyone takes doping in Russian team. Looking like Alyiev or Ignatov are literally dying by the end of the program, I don’t think they even get enough physical exercises in the camp, otherwise they would have much better success on international scene

@amethyst5512 Год назад

They key with the drugs is that they allow you to train more than is normally possible. You still have to actually do the work. It’s very clear some of those Russian men don’t do run throughs. Dope can only get you so far. And if you aren’t self motivated or don’t have someone like Eteri pushing you, it’s still not going to happen. Remember how she said she prefers girls. It’s because of how young girls are much easier to psychologically push to such limits, to ignore the signs of injury, and do whatever they’re told. And those who defy are shunned.

@NG-ue4th Год назад

So someone on twitter pointed out that Winter Olympics and fifa were in the same year and then I realised that Beijing happened literally this year and I've been spiralling ever since...anyways brb gonna go and watch wakaba's lion king fp and cry for an hour✌

@topicdel Год назад

Thanks TSL! Loved this recap. Happy Holidays to you and Jonathan!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Happy holidays!

@leliadumitriu Год назад

The Romanian gymnasts comparison that Dave did is on point. I practiced gymnastics in Romania in the early 2000s, until I hit puberty, and it is exactly how you put it, a Deus ex Machina, lacking in emotion or artistry. I hated myself and the sport in those times. I saw the same thing in the Russian girls in figure skating. The methods only work with waif like little girl. Talking about Valieva, she still has an it factor to her skating, her personality comes out even with the utterly uninspired choreography. Akatiyeva is painfull to watch for me, because I can feel the trauma behind the "perfection"

@maria375s Год назад

This is the best holiday gift, thank you Dave and Jonathan and Happy Holidays!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@dkeinow Год назад

Listening to this again after the premiere. It is so entertaining and enjoyable

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@thesovgc Год назад

You mention that doping causes short careers, yet Liza is better than ever.. Which is also explained away by implying she's doping. So is she superhuman that she's been able to handle these normally debilitating body-ruining substances for 12+ years?

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

First off, she isn't training with Eteri and doing the crazy numbers that they tell us they do in training. Liza is obviously very talented and has had very good technique. She also had years when she was unable to do much of anything and that cannot be discounted either. I do greatly admire her ability to come back from those challenging years. When we talk about internal loads, it is interesting to look at how many events she did during 2014-15 (when she admitted to being on Meldonium). It took years for her to return to form after that, which may have been her body healing from the amount of stress it went through during that season.

@thesovgc Год назад

@@TheSkatingLesson do you think there are rinks in Russia where doping isn't happening? I feel like it's probably everywhere, being that it's most likely a state sponsored thing. If that's the case, how do you feel that these skaters don't really have agency over what they put in their bodies and what they have to endure if they want to succeed. I'm not saying you do this, but if feels like some people blame the athletes when I really don't think they have a choice.

@wotanworld5504 Год назад

@@thesovgc These skaters have their parents and they certainly understand what they let their kids to go through. If you decide and go to sleep with the Devil, do not complain when you wake up in Hell!

@KamilaValieva-fan Год назад

I guess Alysa Liu’s short career was caused by doping, according to TSL?

@mariaritapieraccini3501 Год назад

Kinda makes you think that maybe they are lying about the "doping" to eliminate the best.

@Dynda005 Год назад

About Sota and his costume - he's a big, HUGE fan of Yuzuru, he said in an interview? i think? that yuzu's origin costume very much inspired his fs costume and he's very happy the designer could put it together for him. So for me its just a fanboy paying tribute to his fav, and not trying to take yuzuru's place :D

@BillyWhaler Год назад

As one of RU-vid’s top 37-38 skate poets I need my muse. This season was flat without Danny’s earned assurance, Eteri’s technical guidance at the boards, and the powder keg shitstorm that awaits backstage. Not sure how they sell sponsorships with the status quo.

@mikeokubo7061 Год назад

The university games have a bit of a national glory in Japan (and maybe in South Korea too??) because you represent your university which is a big part of Japanese college culture. I think Rika doesn’t go to university and that makes her non eligible…

@emmax4806 Год назад

Rika is Waseda University student.

@inocohen5404 Год назад

Guys, I love you. You are the best. I look forward to your videos every week. I really miss the Russians in the international competitions and much appreciate your updates. Providing there is strict dopping control for all, it is time to include them again. A healthy global competition will be good for all skaters. As global influentials, you can bring the world of figure skating together. And you are already helping in that direction.

@petyunya880206 Год назад

Sinitsyna ❤️

@johnnyboy2627 Год назад

Sinitsyna in English means “Angel on the ice.”

@theprinceoftides6836 Год назад

@@johnnyboy2627 That she is.

@AxlKhan-v1f 7 месяцев назад

Truth. The most beautiful Russian skater in living memory alongside Anna Scherbacova.@@theprinceoftides6836

@lc4822 Год назад

Shun was great! His programs were my fav after Shoma and he is the most memorable of that 2-6 bunch to me after maybe Kazuki.

@evanperilstein5308 Год назад

I think Shun's skating is very pedestrian. He doesn't get down into his knees, he shows no personality and his spins are frankly terrible. I remember Johnny Weir said at the Internationale de France last season that Shun's skating was like if a ski jumper skated because of his stiff knees. I think he also compared his skating to Boyang Jin's.

@zackwilson8701 Год назад

Shun is my next favorite Japanese man, too, after Shoma, Kazuki, and Yuma. There is just something enduring about him, even if his PCS are average and his spins are slow. I like him!

@dokkerdam3844 Год назад

i wish you guys had a minimum of graphics or subject chapters so i could skip/find the parts i'm looking for. the video is too long to sit through waiting.

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Noted!

@dokkerdam3844 Год назад

@@TheSkatingLesson thanks for that reply. paola la broke my heart in her review of the russian nationals. she doesn't see the potential of sofia akateva and she missed the genuine sweetheart response when sofia had to stop herself from crying because she thought she had failed (probably because eteri is such a bioche) and then was aghast when she found out she had won!

@dame_ys Год назад

Evgeni’s winning was fair. And there’s no surprise why his PCS were higher than like two years ago. Shame on ppl for insulting him. His progress is obvious.

@mollykissel9553 Год назад

I love how if anyone says anything negative wise about Russian skaters (especially the top skaters), people want to use jealousy as an excuse to why someone said that negative thing. Like come on people, use some common sense. Most people just want honest and fair skating for ALL skaters. I could care less if the US women won, I just want competitions to be fair and honest. I like Russian skaters and enjoy watching them, but I am not so naive as to become blind to favoritism (especially with Eteri's camp).

@proeliagamerroblox3539 Год назад

Is Nathan Chan,Yuzura,Malinin are also drug ? Do you know the answer TSL ?

@stingyshannon701 Год назад

US sports leagues have notorious histories where they turn a blind eye to doping. NFL and MLB especially have had rampant doping.

@skatefan9495 Год назад

No. There is nothing unusual about men doing quads and triple axels. It is a legitimate question why the Russian women are the only skaters in the world doing these difficult jumps on a consistent basis.

@skatefan9495 Год назад

@@stingyshannon701 Every country has cheaters. But the US "sports leagues" don't condone it. Certainly not the USFSA.

@proeliagamerroblox3539 Год назад

@@skatefan9495 training 8 hours per day make possible many things. And 4A of Malinin is usual thing for you? What doping helping russian girls to have power?

@skatefan9495 Год назад

@@proeliagamerroblox3539 There is evidence of Russian doping, unlike anything about any American skater. Doping can increase endurance which makes 8 hours of training possible.

@jimmyfab Год назад

4 Continent's has never been a thing. It's typically never a "big name" event. Its sorta an event that never took off.

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

It has been great some years!

@andreagoldstein4070 Год назад

It's usually a consolation prize for not making the A team for Worlds. I've always enjoyed it though. What is weird is tickets went on sale just last week for it, so clearly the organizers are treating it like an after thought.

@skatefan9495 Год назад

The Asian skaters have taken it more seriously than the Americans. Mao, Yuna, Daisuke, Hanyu, Shoma Uno have all competed at Four Continents.

@evanperilstein5308 Год назад

@@skatefan9495 Patrick Chan also competed at 4CC. It definitely became a bigger event once Yuna and Mao started competing at it. The only years it doesn't get the big names are Olympic years because it's scheduled too close to the Olympics. James OMG must not have watched it since the mid 2000s.

@ФирузаКалимуллина-ч8ж Год назад

Удивительное дело. Российские фигуристы не участвуют в международных соревнованиях, но до сих пор волнуют всех любителей фигурного катания. Успокойтесь, дорогие дамы и господа. Нас в вашей жизни больше нет и я подозреваю больше не будет. Скорее Россия организует новые свои международные соревнования, чем нашим спортсменам разрешат вернуться. Может это к лучшему. Соскучимся по друг другу, вспомним, что мы люди, а не био роботы.

@I_r_i_ Год назад

Посмотрите на эти лица на видео, им уже ничего не поможет. Они не похожи на людей. Абсолютные фальшивки.

@jennifer5512 Год назад

I agree with Dave about Mao Shimada. My only thing about her is her arms before her jumps but yeah, she does have a star quality that many other skaters don't have.

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@leeh9211 Год назад

Does anyone know which American ladies/girls can do quads? Do we have anyone that can? We heard of Mia Kalin, but is there anyone else? Thanks for your assistance.

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Not right now.

@leeh9211 Год назад

@@TheSkatingLesson Thanks for your assistance.

@ДаниелШахънски Год назад

Every time that there are people better than the Americans, they'd say: "oh, yea, it's defo drugs, it's artificial and unfair". So funny to watch these guys that have never even worked out half that difficult training sessions, regimes, dedicating their entire life to one single goal, to talk conspiracies and crap about these dedicated athletes worldwide.

@fotomagrol Год назад

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣dude the best skaters now are from Japan and South Korea...so your theory is just garbage...haahaha

@mariaritapieraccini3501 Год назад

Bravo!!!!

@evelinevale9813 Год назад

they just bitching around, one should not take them seriously

@I_r_i_ Год назад

Про своих Чена и Малинина молчат в тряпочку

@Jeremy-wp4yh Год назад

The obvious overscoring of Kamilla to the point where even the Russian audience were upset was hilarious. But I think they're doing that to maintain the idea that eteri can have skaters that last more than 1 season even though that's false.

@nataliatop4716 Год назад

I see that you are an international figure skating judge 👎🏻 So talk about things you don't understand well.

@Jeremy-wp4yh Год назад

@@nataliatop4716 we have eyes and so do you... Corrupt judging doesn't change the rules

@nataliatop4716 Год назад

@@Jeremy-wp4yh your eyes not enough to understand correctly. Pretext.

@Jeremy-wp4yh Год назад

@@nataliatop4716 I assume you had some of grandpa's water.

@primalcritters Год назад

@@Jeremy-wp4yh you should try Grandpa's water.

@carolinedavis6557 Год назад

Katya and Harley was excellent - completely devastating. Both athletes having to overcome serious difficulties to reach some incredible goals, and exploitation and abuse by both the Russian system, and the Australian press and bureaucracy. Hopefully history won’t repeat itself with the current pairs team. The ice rink where they trained is closed at the moment as the roof is falling in and the council which owns it won’t pay to fix it.

@mai3334 Год назад

Russia will see new stars every season, but to be truly martyr’d, a skater has to have hyper flexibility, a cute face, and a pained expression (Valieva, Yulia). There is nothing more emotional about Valieva compared to Akatieva. People are just awed by her flexibility.

@martaszczesiak6606 Год назад

I got some abuse on RU-vid for criticising overscoring Valieva (as well as the lack of conclusion for the doping case). There seem to be people who watch all the related videos and target anyone who expresses their doubts. It gives me the vibe of the "best" days of Zagitova vs Medvedeva fan wars. In the end I was scared to put another comment under Valieva's videos...so I'll leave it here: Danny G using someone else's choreo again made me sqeak :))

@KamilaValieva-fan Год назад

When you are abusing a child, you claim it criticize, when someone doubt and criticize your abusing words, you claim it abusing. So typical of double standard and Anglo-Saxon superity.👎

@martaszczesiak6606 Год назад

@@KamilaValieva-fan First, I did not "abuse a child", I criticised adults' behaviour related to a child. I wrote that (1) I think judges overscore her. (2) We need the doping case closed. The first part may or may not be true. The second is surely true. With great respect, I'm Polish/Scottish, not Anglo-Saxon or whatever. You seem to forget that I'm a FAN of Russian figure skating. I want to see it thrive in a fair environment - no doping, no favouritism.

@KamilaValieva-fan Год назад

@@martaszczesiak6606 you are Polish/Scottish, yet you are spiritually Anglo-Saxon. The so called doping is a pure political persecution. Kamila was underscored deliberate in both short program and free program in 2022 Russian Championships if you have adequate knowledge of figure skating.

@martaszczesiak6606 Год назад

@@KamilaValieva-fan What is the logic behind "political persecution"? The gold was supposed to be given to a Russian anyway, so there would be no gain from framing only one of the three girls. The gold is Russian, no doubt about it. If that had been a deliberate attack, it would have been pointless then...Russia won anyway, doping scandal or not. I don't understand who would benefit from passing the gold from one Russian girl to another. Clearly not Americans who don't care that much about figure skating anyway...(in comparison to football etc.)

@KamilaValieva-fan Год назад

@@martaszczesiak6606 TMZ is a poison to figure skating. Kamila’s urine sample was taken on 2021 12.25 during the Russian competition, neither her or her coach are stupid enough to take such banned medicine at such time. The urine samples arrived Sweden lab on 2021 12.28 but the testing result was not released until 2022 0208 when Kamila won the group medal for Russia, and USA is the silver medal winner. Who is the 1st beneficial party of the doping scandal? The criminal/result is apparent. It was WADA delayed the testing result unusually and leaked Kamila’s identity which caused such drama and permanent damage for Kamila. Yet nobody accused or plan to sue WADA IOC and media for their crimes. The grandfather’s medicine story proves in further that Kamila was honest & innocent, as within that short response time during Olympics, Kamila was so shocked of the testing result and checked all the possible ways of how TMZ went into her body. Her grandfather did had TMZ to treat his heart disease, so she told CAS the fact. Yet western medias and haters use this info bullied Kamila viciously in further. WADA is an org controlled by USA. WADA has double standards and it’s legal system is 500 years outdated and is evil. WADA grants US and European athelets with doping exemptions secretly while putting a lot common medicines on the ban list without solid scientific proof of boosting performance level. WADA is a political weapon used to persecuting the opponent nations’ talents. The whole WADA CAS, SWISS Court system is extremely corrupted, evil and unfair to athelets. CAS and WADA need to be trialed and reformed. I am not a Russian, I am just a fan of figure skating. I have been watching figure since Michelle Kuan era. I have never seen a figure skating genius like Kamila Valieva. I believe she is innocent and the case need to be dismissed immediately. Kamila is the treasure of this planet and need to be supported, protected. Let this figure skating genius continue skating!

@Scarywaxel Год назад

Totally disagree about Mai's FS music. There's a growing intensity and maturity to it. Very different for her. But I think it really works.

@stingyshannon701 Год назад

The gold and silver medallists at the GP final, Sakamoto's sudden turnaround in form and conditioning at a domestic event is all very suspicious. It's so suspicious Mai Mihara with arthritis and living in pain can win a gold medal against the best in the world. This is not normal. Then you look at her tiny fragile build, tiny diminutive height for a 23 year old it's so suspicious and strange. Akateva at 15 is the same height and build (Akateva are lot stronger build). Then Levito is so thin and fragile looking yet some how second best in the world. Not to mention her jump technique being bad she's going to hurt herself. She'll be forced out of the early like Liu.

@lindaallison5338 Год назад

I just saw Opera Australia’s production of POTO in Melbourne and I won’t apologise for it. 😂 Love Kanadai’s programs. Hope they nail it at 4CC.

@natalie_lucky Год назад

Бедные российские мужчины-фигуристы, с ними даже допингом не могут поделиться, чтобы они чисто катались и хорошо прыгали, это сексизм, получается 🤔😱

@I_r_i_ Год назад

Как и с танцорами. Им вообще ничего не достаётся, всё съедают девочки 😂😂😂 Ему кто-то платит за этот бред, или он психически больной?

@natalie_lucky Год назад

@@I_r_i_ таким людям и платить не надо, они сами придумают и поверят в свои же теории без каких-либо доказательств Просто очередной фома неверующий, мол, как так российские девочки могут то, что другие не могут. Хотя те же самые японки тоже прыгали/прыгают квады и ничего А если взять его логику, то получается, что Илья Малинин тоже на допинге, ведь он вообще единственный в мире прыгает 4А

@I_r_i_ Год назад

@@natalie_lucky так если посмотреть их СМИ, там одни фейки о войне на Украине. Думаю, что он начал гнать это вранье сначала по своей инициативе, в надежде, что заметят и будут платить горе-блогеру. И раз он продолжает врать на эту тему, значит заметили и платят. А насчет Чена и Малинина у меня и сомнения нет, что на допинге. У Чена же после прокатов шестиквадки даже дыхание не сбивалось. За Малининым не слежу и не смотрела, но и там наверное то же самое? Мишин же говорил, что при его жизни 4А не прыгнут. И все мы помним Симону Байлс, которая без своих наркотиков не смогла выступить на олимпиаде. Я еще на бразильской олимпиаде заметила, что она под препаратами на награждении. Про рекордсмена Фелпса, надеюсь, и так всем всё понятно.

@julienixon2686 Год назад

Loved Freeze. I think our British skaters would do better with more funding. Look at the British gymnastics team now for example. Mark H can do no wrong for me 😊

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@sunnyyan1931 Год назад

Will either you or Jonathan be attending Nationals in-person?? :)

@lisa-lisa-lisa Год назад

MIR for everyone but Ukraine I guess

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

Touche.

@stsin7 Год назад

Waited for it!

@TheSkatingLesson Год назад

@tonymu8984 Год назад

Love this!!

@gdaliahushtirmer1612 Год назад

since all russian are drugged (as per tsl) , what about ilia (he is russian). does he get drugs from his old country or a better american version. it's not possible that there is only one human on this planet who can do a 4A and do it so easily without using drugs..

@evanperilstein5308 Год назад

Ilia is American. He was born in Virginia and grew up there. He has never lived in Russia, so Russia is not his "old country." His parents are Russian, so he is technically Russian-American, but he is still American, just like Italian-Americans are American. As for drugs, who knows, but Russia is the only country at this point that has been proven to have state-sponsored doping.

@stingyshannon701 Год назад

No, all is right with the world when American men do what Russian men can't do.

@alyonabu Год назад

@Evan Perilstein Trained by the Russisn coaches who were trained by the USSR coaches. Yep,truly American but with Russian technique)))

@lindaallison5338 Год назад

Re choreo sequence- Kanadai’s RD seq has more changes of holds and Latin moves compared to Piper and Paul’s where she’s grinding up against him 🤢and overacting at the judges yet we all know who gets the bigger score. It’s a defacto ordinal mechanism.

@hannahdeclerck6825 Год назад

nice sweater Dave!

@d.trance6637 Год назад

One has to give the russian a sack of doping, for this amazing event. (I m not bothered, everybody is doing it anyway) It was just Drama, Opera and Theater. New Eterie Girls (Akatieva, etc) and Petr Gumenik at his best. Every second was just a privilege to watch. (more interesting then the Europeans or worlds)

@angieortizurena3327 Год назад

When you know you’ll win everything (or at least be 2nd if you fuck up that much) despite your single jumps, falls, wobbly landings and robotic performances, it costs nothing to smile and be more of a personality… (if she would have landed that 3A, she would have been the winner, there were like 2 points of difference from Akatieva)

@lumpyspacecadet Год назад

Ok, Jonathan. There is no need for that shade thrown at Semenenko about his pants. He's such a nice boy and that was uncalled for. I'm so proud of him for skating two clean programs and winning nationals! He beat Peter because his FS score was higher and that was true. Peter didn't skate a clean free. Don't be salty about RusFed actually following their own rules for a change.

@L.Spencer Год назад

Isn't there a movie or a book about sharing pants?

@lc4822 Год назад

Yelim, Haein and Chaeyoun we're named to the 4CC team, Idk why it says Yelim is going to that other thing

@PeiwenTanbassoon821 Год назад

Again it’s Korea so she could be made to go to both……

@tomkroh2712 Год назад

It was truly 2 different sports. Dave you couldn't be more right. It's jarring to watch.

@vytautassvanys9281 Год назад

It really is on a whole other level - it was like night and day. This is evidenced by the interest of the audience. Over 21,000 viewers watched the Russian championship live on RU-vid without any advertising and promotion, while only about 2,000 watched live the widely advertised GP final. The stands were also empty in Turin, unlike in Krasnoyarsk.

@tomkroh2712 Год назад

@@vytautassvanys9281 the jarring difference wasn't the audience. But you aren't wrong per se.

@susanfoss3599 Год назад

Do we know for sure the triple Axel was planned in the short? Without one in the free, I wonder if it was even planned for the short.

@susanfoss3599 Год назад

@Benjamin ahhhhh….thanks!

@stingyshannon701 Год назад

@Benjamin She did land one 3A in the warm up though.

@armoda1057 Год назад

@Benjamin idk how much it matters, but there’re recent clips of her hitting 3A in practice, so it doesn’t seem crazy that she’d try it. Of course, it’s ironic that she would’ve won the event if she had just done 2A (also would’ve won if she didn’t double in the free).

@ДжейнБелл Год назад

on the Russian TV channel one, they say that Kamila Valieva is an Olympic champion 😂😂😂

@L.Spencer Год назад

I guess they mean the team event? Like Gabby Daleman

@KamilaValieva-fan Год назад

She is

@Roryhereigo Год назад

@@L.Spencer of course, they imply the team event. They always do this, that seems kinda strange to me, but that's how it is

@L.Spencer Год назад

@@Roryhereigo You may say 'of course' but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't mean the team event.

@Roryhereigo Год назад

@@L.Spencer yes, I see what you mean. But I always notice this when they say "Olympic champions" about those who are winners only in the team event. I'm not really sure that it's right

@NIQ31 Год назад

Very biased

@jquibbler Год назад

My Rion really flopped here. Her program is such a fav of mine this year.

@MsAMusicLover Год назад

My favorite Russian man, Mikhail Kolyada, disappeared again. Because this is Russia, I always worry those that "withdraw" under vague circumstances. Has he angered the authorities? (Hoping Dave will investigate!)

@noran7809 Год назад

He is already 27 years old and time is not in his favour.

@natalie_lucky Год назад

Михаил заболел

@noran7809 Год назад

@@natalie_lucky Ну, он заболел и эти обстоятельства не кажутся неясными. ("vague circumstances")

@ariannepine3157 Год назад

We missed him at the Olys (positive Covid test...) and now this too 😭

@satanoJ Год назад

Mao Shimada just cause me all that too. It's the best women FS of the year for me.

@tadhgcronin175 Год назад

In happier times I loved the commentary here. It was a great channel. Sadly it has descended into a partisan parody channel. I lasted until about 11 minutes and became overwhelmed by the the bile. This is just a WADA/NATO channel now. Just post out the medals next year, 50% to the USA, 40% to Japan and 10% for the rest. I suspect the European Championships this year will probably send the remaining skating fans to the exits.

@evanperilstein5308 Год назад

Move to Russia if you don’t live there already

@mariaritapieraccini3501 Год назад

Very well said, good for you!

@lisa-lisa-lisa Год назад

Baga Chipz is not Irish, they are English

@JohnnyOpera1 Год назад

Thanks for clarifying! But the look was similar!

@thesovgc Год назад

@@JohnnyOpera1 omg she does look like Baga! 😂😂

@lisa-lisa-lisa Год назад

@@JohnnyOpera1 it is way too similar for someone to be looking like that on purpose unironically

@dame_ys Год назад

Well, Evgeni’s recovering is definitely not inspirated by doping if you’re trying to say that 😅

@fw7103 Год назад

I honestly think Mao Shimada and Rika Kihira are the best women skaters in the world right now. They both have beautiful technique, polish and charisma.