Therapist of 15 years here. White, male, heterosexual, actual classic liberal who still TREATS gender dysphoria in a clinically responsible way and tries to get my clients to accept their realities rather than to cosponsor their delusion. Speaking up at conferences has been met mostly with contempt and kept me pretty much alone during the lunch hour and I am okay with it. What I am not okay with is the idea that none of us are speaking against it. We have the courage (hell there is a documentary coming out about me being a dissenting voice against PED use in sports) but there are so few of us and we are not given a platform to discuss our experiences and I have been rather successful helping my clients accept themselves. Even the clients who have left for more “gender-affirming care” have come back. Some of us are trying to get our clients to identify with what they do, not with some arbitrary characteristics they were born with or decided they had. We are the minority, sure, but are never invited to the table.
Please Champat187.., keep going, and thank you thank you and to MS and JP also for standing up and speaking out. It’s because you are speaking the truth to an echo chamber that their response is to dampen down your dissent. To mute it. and to punish you for raising it by isolating you from the group. the echo chamber doesn’t want to hear anything but it’s own ringing lies. Awful capitulation of so called professionals - strike off every single one of the mince headed, misplacedly compassionate and morally aberrant (unforgivable) egg heads on the videos and their like.
@@istftlats I can tell you that this profession wasn’t always like this. It has been in the last decade have conferences turned into these platforms that amplify motivists and saviors who clearly have Axis II, cluster B traits.
Thank you for affirming that there is still true help for people. I am despairing that the man my daughter married has been taking estrogen for over a year. He and his siblings were horribly abused mentally by their mother (other siblings are in therapy and one has attempted suicide so I know that's real). How he doesn't look to getting counseling to deal with that is beyond me! My daughter is standing by him, and even affirming his new name & feminization efforts. But I can't say anything for fear of losing my daughter. I appreciate any advice and prayers!
I studied biology and earned my PhD in biomedical engineering. Between the covid outbreak til now I have lost all faith in the medical and public health fields. We had a brief and shining moment when the medical field did more good than harm but we've reverted to horrific practices of uninformed human expermentation.
Real doctors of biomedical engineering know how to spell "experimentation." And, they fully grasp that medical technology has saved and prolonged billions of lives.
I went to study universities for many years too. I mean, I don't know what that even means "informed consent". 😂 Obviously a surgeon isn't going to operate without the patient signing something. And you can't tell me a 16 year old asking to have their breasts moved doesn't know what that means!
I definitely agree with you wholeheartedly and honestly I’m sorry for your wake up call. It seems as though the problem is quite simple to diagnose yet mountainous to resolve. The problem: the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry has put its hooks into our doctors and medical institutions, both private and public. The bigger problem: getting people to comprehend this, which poses itself quite the difficult task when the media and our politicians are both in their pockets as well.
The absolute horror is taking kids away from the parents who refuse to affirm their kids identity and don't themselves give consent to any of this madness and have their parental rights taken away. I heard a guy the other day from Canada who said parents don't have rights, they have responsibilities. Only the child has rights. This is what these maniacs are pushing in Canada.
In 2023, the California Senate Judiciary passed AB 957, which would consider it abusive for a parent to not affirm a child’s gender “identity” and would deny custody to non-affirming parents during custody disputes. Just another right down the drain.
In a weird way I think they're right. However, they gloss over the fact that a child has a right to their parents. I know the logic is convoluted, but hear me out. Only the child has a right, the right to have bith parents. The government can't be responsible for that right, because it is incentivized to remove that right. That means the only ones that can stand against the government to protect the right of children to have their parents are the parents themselves. In other words, a parent isn't entitled to having their child, but children needs their parents so much society can't function if the government is given too much power when deciding when a parent is abusive towards their children.
My concern was the Endocrinologist from BC who’s saying it’s important to deal with the child’s “Happiness” in the “moment”!? By mutilating them for life?! It’s sickening all right. He knows exactly what he’s saying is insane.
No, he really doesn't know that, and the smarter he is the better he can convince himself of the morality of his position. Watch the after skool vide o on why smart people believe stupid things.
@@joss8558 I haven't seen the video but don’t need to, it makes total sense. I don’t want to sound conceited and am fully aware I may just be left on the Dunning-Kruger curve lol but I am pretty intelligent. Throughout my younger years I was super reckless and developed many bad habits; anyone who saw me would think I was a total moron. I realized part of the reason was my ability to rationalize bad choices. I could always construct a convincing reason to do what my selfish impulses desired. It's honestly kind of frightening haha. Luckily I survived my 20s and after some painful learning am fully aware that my initial reasons for wanting to do (or not do) something are likely off the cuff and after the fact excuses for selfish/hedonistic impulses. I approach all my beliefs and decisions with great skepticism now and never assume I am in the right or being a good person. It has helped a lot. I've also come to the conclusion that very few people throughout history have ever looked in a mirror and decided "Im going to be a bad person today." Even Hitler and Stalin likely thought their path was the righteous one.
Seriously, how can anyone over the age of 30 think its a good idea to prioritize the short term happiness of a child over long term ramifications? No wonder we have a generation of 'adults' that through temper tantrums when they don’t get their way. That, plus social media and the way things are taught in school has created an epidemic of personality disorders.
I don't think he believes "it's insane". He convinced himself he's right. Simply being an Endocrinologist implies no particular experise & certainly implies no moral insight. Just like the roofer - who at first (and second) glance seemed to know everything possible about roofing - but resided over a terrible, yet expensive, new roof over my house. They work in this field because it's easy money for them. So the field attracts those without strong ethical foundations.
I am proud to be female, always have been but have always been a Tom Boy. I turned 58 years old today. I am a mom and married for 38 years. I can’t help but wonder had I been a female child today would they have wanted me to get a sex change to be a boy. Jordan we all know what this is really all about. It’s a depopulation agenda. What a better way than to sterilize children. To me this is as bad as when they use to sterilize the mentally disabled years ago. This world has gone mad. Will we ever recover from this. I didn’t watch nor have I ever watched the CBC Juno awards but the great young man from True North was asked to watch this award show to report on it. The clips I saw were so troubling. If I was a parent of a young child today I would have so many worries. Praying for all children.
100% agree with you Tammy. I'm a Self confessed tomboy. I did boy things, I helped my dad in the furniture factory using tools and demolition of houses for timber. I also had a very volatile father and if offered the chance to rebel in the change my name agenda I might have been suckered into it. My rebellion was to change my name from Cathy to Kathy... 😂 I'm a proud mum of two young men and care for their father who is terminally ill despite being separated because family is everything.
I wonder if you are aware of the concerted effort to demonize the "Tom Boy" identity? There was a paper recently written - I forget the exact date and title - that was entitled something to the effect of "The racist history of the Tom Boy". They're so focused on trans-ing kids that they can't allow for their to be some other avenue where girls can like "boy" things and still be considered girls.
its even more than depopulation. its also destabilization. the divisiveness of this whole issue, the poor health outcomes for the patients, the terrible outcomes for their families, the cost etc all contribute to worsening societal outcomes.
Yeah but the insurers will be owned by blackrock etc..., and they want this madness to continue. The malpractice lawsuits are a price they ware willing to pay, and there is nothing stopping them just sacrificing some underwriter for the hell of it.
It must happen b4 that. Billiomndollar corps have good lawyers. With other harmful meds takes years and volumes of people. These youngsters don't have that time. It must be spread about real ramifications and lies the kids and their parents are told.
I have said it over and over.... Thank God for voices and individuals like Schellenberger and Talibi and Dr. Petersen my God where Western society has fallen!! These voices are the beacons in our society....this is vital to see and share.
Jorden Pettersons knowledge is absolutely impeccable. This man has to be protected at all costs. We can’t afford to lose this man. He backs up everything he says WITH FACTS and STUDIES and TRUTH
Imagine telling a 12-year-old before puberty has begun "if you do this you won't be able to have kids of your own and you probably won't be able to have sex". What 12-year-old thinks about having children of his/her own? Most kids at this age don't care. Some may be thinking, "So what, I can adopt a child." These children have never had sex. How are they supposed to be able to judge what they are losing if they are deprived of the opportunity to do so. What makes the actions of these people an unimaginable crime is the fact that most young people grow out of their "gender insecurity" before the age of 18 - and this has long been known. It is also known that "trans" people have the highest suicide rate up to 8 years AFTER the IRREVERSIBLE surgery. What's worst, in my view, is that it has long been known that over 80% of young people grow out of their "gender insecurities" by the age of 18. What's striking is that these people seem to lack any awareness of doing something wrong, but on the other hand they are aware that they are committing unjustifiable, inhumane acts, because otherwise they wouldn't lie about the non-existent evidence regarding the benefits of the "treatments" and try to hide their actions. They still deny that the surgeries are carried out on teenagers, even after evidence became public.
@@elaineteut9579 That's also why the baby deleters fought the movie Silent Scream so hard, because that showed in full detail what these people do for fun.
Dr. Peterson, if I may share my point of view on this topic as a parent with teen children during the Covid lockdown time period. In the fall of 2020 many students started the new school year with laptops or tablets provided to them by the school districts free of charge. My children attend public schools within the largest school district in the state of Idaho. These laptops and tablets had content filters built in, yet youtube was not filtered. So these young people spent a large portion of their lockdown time watching videos from influencers in their 20's. These 20 something influencers were the ones making the trans movement popular and then it becomes a trend that the young teens want to be a part of. At this same time, many of the older more conservative school teachers quit teaching and/or retired early to escape the insanity over the pandemic. The new replacement teachers being fresh out of school were liberal extremists, single, with no children of their own. So many of these "trans" kids don't even want to change their biology. They just get anxious and excited to have a coming out with a new name and gender identity so they can feel like they are participating in this trend. They get the peer attention they crave by their new name. The teachers go along with the new name, even when that name isn't even used or acknowledged in their homes. Teachers and school admin MUST stay on the same side as the parents.
What an insane theory, my to girls 8, 10 watch RU-vid all the time probably saw plenty of transgender content yet they have never expressed to me at any time they are confused about who they are and what there gender is , if yours or others children are confused or being forced into thinking they aren’t what they were born as then quite simply you aren’t doing your job as a parent, because ultimately you are responsible for them until they are 18 ,so you have failed them period ! How hard is it to monitor what content they watch ? How hard is it to pull them out of a school that acts in a manner that is harmful or manipulative towards children who are supposed to have their innocence protected . ? how hard is it to remove access to laptops or iPads or phones ? It’s not hard to!! You are the so called Adult . Act like one ! This shit is only happening in America because your country is so mentally unstable look at your fukn president , I’m still shocked anyone voted for someone aged well beyond retirement age ,he should be in a nursing home for the elderly . Only in America the most sadistic, corrupt and arrogant country in the world!
Totally agree with your observations (Idaho resident 20+yrs). It makes me sick to see what's been happening to my State. And this is IDAHO! People move here to get away from this rot. Academia & Media has just gone off its rocker at sonic speed. And it seems the 'moral majority', with a few exceptions, are asleep or scared into silence. Pray people, pray! Speak people, speak! Then, act people, act! Thank you, JP and MS, for this brave, bold stand! We don't hear this intelligent clarity anywhere else!
And many of these kids who don’t fit in -. Search for that group whether it’s in drama club or sewing. There the bullies lie pushing them to state pronouns and come out.
TikTok from China is part of it. We went to work after the lockdowns and left our kids alone at home online. The American people allowed the teachers unions to send our kids home.
How do these people still have a license? They are doing experimental procedures on children without informed consent. That violates every ethical standard of medical research I can think of.
Ya, while simultaneously going after The Great Canadian Psychologist's license. Seems reasonable... I'm beginning to believe the whole; "World went thru a reality warp in 2012" business... Something went screw, that's for sho
@@andrewmckeown6786 These people haven't lost their licence because the universities are teaching them that this is real and people like you and me are transphobic. The one's that have been in the field for a long time, going along with the new grads are afraid to tell the truth because they will be treated like Dr. Peterson. So they lie through their teeth, betray their oath to their profession and damage 99% of the questioning population. IF WE DON'T GET OUR UNIVERSITIES TURNED AROUND...this is our future. Our children are no longer asked to argue a subject based on their thoughts. They are told what the correct answer is and argue why it's correct. If they disagree, they fail. Everyone is afraid and the Marxists are winning the war.
Except for the ethical standard of "trans people are actually trans and this intervention will save their life", which is the legal ethical standard in Canada. It's mandated. You're looking in the abstract at what you think ethical standards should be based off how they used to be, but they're not anymore.
@@natbarron I would guess his argument is that these attitudes and their enforcement are now so ingrained in society in general that reversing the trend (by that I mean regaining a sense of reality) is now almost impossible. It is a generational problem and I am sure that it will take a couple of generations of people to firstly acknowledge the depth of the problem that has been imposed on us and another generation to revert to an understanding of the essential differences that biology imposes on animal life between the sexes. I'm saying 40 or 50 years to rid society of this concept that is "trans" ideology. edit:- punctuation.
A lot of people with dender dysphoria throughout modern history didn't have the means to get help. They were even labeled delusional, schizo, and out on involuntary medications.
@@TransGurl.VrilX.1488unfortunately it's a very large club and the medical system has been quite willing to expand the membership requirements. For every ill they have a pill and they are not afraid to dispense it. 😮😖
There are 26.2 million US kids between the ages of 12-18. 5,000 were given puberty blockers in 2021 and those numbers have been fairly consistent. While i agree wait till they’re 18 it’s not like this is an epidemic, FFS! 5,000 is far less than the 1 in 3,000 Peterson cites from his Toronto colleague. The kids are alright.
Read Jennifer Bilek's 11th Hour Blog. She's been researching this for a very long time. Good to see Peterson and Shellenberger getting on board with this. Meghan Murphy and Kara Dansky also were among the first responders. And indeed Mia Hughes, the author of the Wpath Files whom Shellenberger assisted to get the truth about that tin-pot outfit into the public domain. Our debt to these courageous women is huge.
I knew this was coming too. TLC featured a young boy that identified as a female and they chronicled this child’s journey on hormone blockers and at 18 a full on sex change. They had extreme problems creating new genitalia because the child was put on hormone blockers at such a young age that they didn’t have enough tissue to invert the child’s biological genitalia to that of the opposite sex. They had to use the child’s bowel to create the new genitalia. This young adult now weighs at least 300 pounds and is so unhealthy physically and mentally. This child who didn’t go to high school really ended up being accepted into Harvard and at that time I couldn’t understand how this child was accepted by Harvard. But now I know why… because the child was accepted on DEI policies. It’s all so sad. I am praying for all the children.
As a doctor myself I find that story horrific. 'Puberty blockers' and mutilating surgery should be completely banned on minors who cannot give properly informed consent.
I’m baffled and pissed on how these "professionals" encourage the confused kids into doing this kind of stuff. As far as I’m concerned, even at 18 you don’t know who you are or what you want, freaking nuts man…
@@bettyfreckles First we have to sue them civilly because the "powers that be" have decided this is okie dokie. Perhaps if enough civil suits are filed, things will begin to be prosecuted criminally.
If an adult is determined to do this to themselves, I may believe it's tragic, but they should have that right. But when it comes to doing this to children, what we're witnessing now is something even worse than the willingness to do it, and that's the EAGERNESS to do it. I get the sense, and I don't think I'm wrong, that a huge proportion of those who advocate for this (all in the name of kindness mind you) actually love that it's happening. They're serial predators. It's modern child sacrifice.
@paxonearth My patience for libertarianism and 'liberal' ideas has completely run out. Virtue and objective truth or nothing at this point. Delving into any form of subjective truth is siding with communists
First educate the "adult" about their brain development. Not fully formed until 25 - 27. And it needs those hormones. Get them to watch some videos by detransitioners /unhappy . Chloe Cole. Scott Nugent. Then let them sign on the dotted line if they want.
They ARE doing harm! Every medical professional who has ever been apart of this gross abuse of medical facilities and equipment to permanently harm people should never get to practice and be sued
Thank god you picked this up, JP. I've been talking about this and made a video on it for weeks, but with your reach, I may get it into the Mainstream as one of the biggest medical scandals since the lobotomy.
This is so disheartening to see and hear about these unfortunate children who are being hurt for an entire lifetime by the so called government that is supposed to want the best for it's citizens
That balding guy in the bottom right of the video conference said he wants these kids "happier in the moment" after he admits he doesn't obtain informed consent from them... Think about that.
Our country was hijacked by a social ideology that we had handed over the proper brakes for. I think you're right but I think it's worse than just the pharmaceutical companies we've all got to keep talking or else it'll never go away
There are So Many reasons why I Love Mr. Peterson. His sense of attire is Outstanding, making the visual a reason to smile & take comfort in his presence. Then his verbal passion & vocabulary that invokes emotional response/reaction. I could go on for days. We are truly blessed that He has been forced into the global spotlight that we can be influenced by someone so "worth" listening to. Blessings Brother.
Dr. Petersen: "Distress is indistinguishable from two things: generalized negative emotion and absence of positive emotion. So that's the core for depression and anxiety. It's the core set of symptoms for any form of pathology...so distress is a very large bin. What you do if you're a credible diagnostician is you assume to begin with a more general diagnosis applies, depression and anxiety, and then you further specify as necessary understanding that what you might attribute to the specialized problem is actually a manifestation of the more general problem."
You know none of the "experts" in this field are disinterested, objective parties. In fact, I bet it's the exact opposite - that these peoples' entire careers and egos are entirely wrapped up in legitimizing this notion. Not to mention the politically correct pressure of conformity.
And there were THOUSANDS of us on the right who were rightfully horrified and yelling our asses off - telling everyone who will listen that this will be looked back on with the same shame as the lobotomies - and we were told "Don't be so mean!" "Where's your compassion?!" The right is more often RIGHT because we stand on consistent principles. WE didn't need a big scandal to call this one.
I am a 54 year old Canadian man who grew up in a small town. Thank God at 12 or 13 I didn't have access to irreversibly mutilation. I admit I was a stupid kid just trying to navigate puberty. God help us all!
Great job Doctor Peterson! This Australian has enormous Respect for your ...(wtf?) Beeing(?) Please Keep doing what you are doing! The Truth Does Not Change! Love from Shane!
The sickness is societal & political. It will keep getting worse until good people find their voices and stand up against it. It's up to us, we the people, now.
Trans is like Eugenics. They sell spaying and neutering (puberty blockers, surgery) to homosexuals and neurodiverse people as beneficial to their happiness but it's an ideology that just wants to eradicate "inferior" humans. I thought we agreed that it was one of the worst atrocities committed by Nazis, but now they revive it and the government does nothing.
Thank you for speaking up about the psychological, physical, and emotional damage done to children. I hope more doctors stand up for the truth, facts, and science.
Thank you both for having and sharing this important conversation. This evil must be stopped, and everyone responsible for bullying and taking advantage of the transition victims needs to be held accountable!
When someone has anxiety or other issues, that should be explored. Instead, the Affirmative Care Model simply affirms someone's supposed gender confusion (which they learned of in school). There is no exploration of any other factors. Just affrim, and off to hormone manipulation and surgery. THAT is malpractice. Nonsensical.
So its now totally in your face Australia. Thank you Jordan and Michael. Time for the so called conservative parliamentarians to watch this and give a public appology for voting down a request for an inquiry into this disgusting malpractice. Simon Birmingham, perhap's you'll show a bit of spine and take the lead eh! If not, please let us know why you voted against.
Fellow Aussie here. What is happening here is awful. Minns just proudly passed a law banning "conversion" therapy. Bit if you want help to fit into the mainstream rather than life on the fringe? You won't get it. And the other major party stays silent as well.
It's not just ideology, its greed. This reminds me a lot of the opiate Rx scandals. Destroying souls to line pockets. Transitioning is being sold as the Cure for the human condition.
Then they will begin to say to the mountains, "Fall on us!" and to the hills, "Cover us!" For if they do these things in the green wood, what will be done in the dry? (The procession to Golgotha)
Very telling statement during the informed consent portion. "For the kids, I want to make them happy in the moment." One of the problems here, as it will for a large % only bring happiness for a moment before turning into further mental anguish. Aside from admitting right out its momentary.
Evil to cut up anyone under 25. The brain is not developed till this age. I am sorry for those who think they are in the wrong body. This is mental strain. So sad
Lord help us all. I am so disgusted by the people at WPATH and elsewhere that are willing to destroy these young people before allowing them to grow and mature. Parents help your child through this …. Not with irreversible surgery, but with strength, compassion and therapy….if needed.
This is what happens when medical science becomes ideologically captured. Apparently the Hippocratic Oath takes a backseat to the almighty dollar, hidden under the cloak of "compassion."
Thanks for posting this. In my opinion, this excerpt is one the most concise and focused discussions that doesn’t go in circles and last an hour. Part of the issue is the grand scale of the topic, and boiling it down to small chunks can be difficult. Keep up the good work.
This is one of the most informative video out there. I wish in my lifetime that someone with a backbone and conviction to see A resolution to this horrific lie puts and end to the sadistic bull. It makes me tremor to think we as humans actually think we've evolved. We have not! At least not in a positive way.
"Happier in the moment"? Are these psychos plain evil or what? This is so horrifying and I'm not even a parent. It's to the point of butchery and madness. Anger seethes in us I'm sure
The denial comes from not wanting to believe that what people see as the church of science could ever be wrong. The destruction of the Appeal to Authority fallacy.
Absolutely there has to be proper safe guards which have disappeared. Kids don't know what they know until 19 and even at that age you dont know yourself
I have no education. But i know all children go through phases. When i was a teenager i thought it was cool to smoke in my early 20s going to raves and dancing for 12hrs seemed like a great idea but guess what surprise surprise i grew out of that nonsense. This is no different
We have to think further. We have to think about what goes wrong as a community when we have got this situation. Each one of us must think about this and we must learn from our mistakes if we want a brighter future.
Disolving Illusions is a book everyone needs to read after the four years we've just been through. Treatments are often suggested that do harm and not good.
That doctor literally said, "I guess we want to make them happy in the moment" as he scratched his head. He was not confident. He's supposed to be a medical professional! In the moment?! That's insane.
As a therapist with 30 years experience I can’t agree more. It is shocking and appalling what is being done and almost incomprehensible to me that actual psychologists and psychiatrists are feeding into it and that the APAs are supportive of it. This is despicable
6:30, dude literally says that he knows that the children cannot consent and don't understand, but he wants to make them "happier in the moment". This is called TERRIBLE PARENTING.
I doubt they're thinking through the implications of anything they say. They're using words as tools to gain acceptance among their peers. When many of their peers are driven by money, one must love money too, to be accepted & the peers just want to hear consensus happy-think. Meaning: true critical thinking is banned!