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This ELECTRIC Bike Could REPLACE Your ICE Bike | Energica Eva Ribelle RS Review 

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@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
Okay, I know this was a long one, but there's a ton to cover with the Eva Ribelle, feel free to use the chapters to jump around. What do you think about electric bikes? Are you looking to buy one or still waiting for them to get better?
@bonacci01
@bonacci01 Год назад
You have 25 days to gain 4.2k subs. COME ON 100k before 2023 🏍 You should do a sit down and reflect on this year video. Many of us would like to hear it. Cheers !
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
@@bonacci01 I ran the numbers, and they math says I'll make it. I'm definitely making one of those videos.
@YooperDanKulka
@YooperDanKulka Год назад
Thanks Spike ill put my money on a Royal Enfield Meteor 650 for half the price.
@Ilikethemotion
@Ilikethemotion Год назад
Electric engines are much better than internal combustion imo, but batteries are crap as of now. p.s. Dude, start to blur that speedo.
@gnumel
@gnumel Год назад
The amount of energy in the battery of that thing should be equivalent (after accounting for inefficiencies) to 2 gallons of fuel.. Do you find that realistic? If that's so, we need another 50% improvement in battery, few more chargers, and then we are there.
@Magic_Toaster
@Magic_Toaster Год назад
The most comprehensive and fair review of Energica that I've ever seen, it's beatiful. Also, every grown man that has ever ridden an Energica has giggled like they've never giggled before.
@Mrlassit
@Mrlassit Год назад
😂 all hail this insane kitchen appliance
@LogicalQ
@LogicalQ Год назад
Went immediately to the comments looking for magic toaster 😂
@izzy8609
@izzy8609 Год назад
Omg he's here, the one the only
@Magic_Toaster
@Magic_Toaster Год назад
@@izzy8609 Energica blessings upon you
@adhd_kay
@adhd_kay Год назад
His giggling literally made me laugh his pure joy says it all.
@nathir3467
@nathir3467 Год назад
The Clutch Lever should be a regen lever, allowing you to pick how much regen you want by your squeeze.
@sonalfernando2342
@sonalfernando2342 Год назад
That's more practical I think
@Vmaxfodder
@Vmaxfodder 11 месяцев назад
Regen outside of brake assistance is just a gimmick! Period
@maxitaxie
@maxitaxie 11 месяцев назад
that would be really cool!
@Vespyr_
@Vespyr_ 10 месяцев назад
Only braking friction create the kind of energy needed for regen.
@efremendez
@efremendez 8 месяцев назад
Not for another 1k $ or so lol
@hisdadjames4876
@hisdadjames4876 Год назад
All credit to Energica for putting their bike and their CEO on the line. All credit to Spite for, apparently, keeping his objectivity in the review..despite any normal temptation to cosy up to Stefano/Energica.
@koblongata
@koblongata Год назад
yeah, hope the charging network can improve quicker, but still great if one has a home charger, and it's relatively cheap to install one really
@dg8062
@dg8062 Год назад
Not anytime in the near future for me. I ride one of the bikes that gets the worst mpg of any bike, a mt10. The days of these gorgeous sounding pure petrol machines are numbered, I'm glad I was around to enjoy them!
@jfarlandutube
@jfarlandutube Год назад
As battery technology improves, bikes like this will get a range of 2 to 300 miles. That will make them really useful motorcycles. The charging infrastructure will also improve. I believe Tesla is now going to allow other electric vehicles to use some of their network, that will improve the experience. This is a very new technology when you think it’s only been main stream for a few years. The fun of electric vehicles is absolutely undeniable. Also consider her you don’t have valves to adjust, oil to change transmissions to break clutch is to replace. These bikes are going to be super reliable and long lasting. Great review.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 Год назад
Wribg
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 Год назад
Imagine 20 or 30 of these in a group ride, the sound would be unreal.
@alexandercoll4863
@alexandercoll4863 Год назад
Imagine charging on a group ride. Would take hours
@vector6977
@vector6977 Год назад
Went on a demo ride with 6 live wires and it was like being on a Speeder bike from starwars.
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 Год назад
@@alexandercoll4863 nah you got 112 miles of range on the highway so plenty of juice as long as you keep the ride short so around 60 or so miles. Main issue is tesla is the only lvl 3 charge service that actually builds a decent number if charges at each location.
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 Год назад
@@vector6977 yeah, electrics got thier own sound to them that kind of grows on you. Rolling down the street sounding like a gaggle of tie fighters is pretty cool in its own way.
@bloopbloop9687
@bloopbloop9687 Год назад
Hella dope noises
@mikea.2348
@mikea.2348 Год назад
kWh is for capacity, kW is for power. Great video!
@michaelcardoza7245
@michaelcardoza7245 Год назад
Man, I KNEW you'd get some good support for your channel but this is just going above and beyond. I hope you continue to grow and achieve higher levels of success!
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
Still blows my mind!
@brodygagne7211
@brodygagne7211 Год назад
@@spitescornerSpite, you’re the peoples champion. All the best
@spoom937
@spoom937 Год назад
@@brodygagne7211 it's awesome seeing good people support good people! Don't know how Spite feels about this one but most of us feel this way! We love ya champ and FUCK Yammie!
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 Год назад
@@spoom937who is yammie?…….lol
@spoom937
@spoom937 Год назад
@@robertholland7558 It's a low life bottom feeder who used to employ Spite. Check the whole Yammie Noob an Spite split up.
@richmonksgtr
@richmonksgtr Год назад
I like that they reached out to you and not some noob.
@steve5772
@steve5772 Год назад
I know that people talk about the noise not being there in electrics - but it sounds like a tiny jet engine spooling. It's like Streethawk all over again. Love it!
@WestCoastWheelman
@WestCoastWheelman Год назад
I agree it sounds amazing, but probably not so much if you cruise at a steady speed for a long time, the steady whine would get annoying. It sounds best speeding up and slowing down all the time, best for twisty roads. Personally I'd like to see one of these electrics engineered to be as quiet as possible for extra stealthy squidding purposes.
@bootch82
@bootch82 Год назад
That was my first thought too. It’s like being in a quiet plane taking off.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 Год назад
@@WestCoastWheelman Loud pipes save lives ;)
@1whitedan
@1whitedan Год назад
@@paulhope3401 nonsense, they just replace my horn.
@paulhope3401
@paulhope3401 Год назад
@Dan Wei If you ride around constantly peeping your horn.. I guess.
@billienomates1606
@billienomates1606 2 месяца назад
Nope, I will keep my 1985 GSX R 750 for another 40 years.
@jasonmeador124
@jasonmeador124 Год назад
Wow! That is a great looking bike, and I would love to hear those square cut gears in person. If I had the dough... Guess I'll keep saving my pennies. Also, Wow, what a Get for the Channel. Thank you Energica, Stephano, Spite and Magic Toaster!
@friendly-jason
@friendly-jason Год назад
Funny how you you say gas is more reliable. I went out to find gas Sunday night.The first gas station was out of gas. The second one had two underground tanks and one was empty. Since I was using a gas can a random driver accused me of hording gas. So, for an S1000 commuter that drives a Tesla part time, buying gas is bane of my existence. My Tesla is fully charged all the time at home. I may be trading in my S1000 XR for one of these based on the narrative. I was looking at Zero, but they are charging $26K for their high end bike now. A new BMW 1200 GSA costs about $27K. A new BMW S1000 XR is about $20K. Both typically require about $500-700 maintenance for every 6000 miles. For commuter, riding electric bikes would be more convenient than riding gas bikes. It might be more cost effective also.
@tommywikstrom9100
@tommywikstrom9100 Год назад
If you laugh within the first 20sec of riding you know it cant go wrong xD Bought my first motorcycle just over a year ago, got my license about 4 months ago and i am gona do my best to get an energica eva next year. Totaly fallen in love with the design, chargerate, distans per charge and yes, the 80's scifi-sound.
@royalsd
@royalsd Год назад
I have an electric scooter that goes 60mph. And tbh electric torque feels unreal. No wait for combustion to start you just start zipping. Extremely fun. An electric motorcycle I think is like 50x more tun
@CyberChrist
@CyberChrist Год назад
Props to you for getting the license, keep safe, and read Twist of the Wrist ;)
@andyfumo8931
@andyfumo8931 7 месяцев назад
​@@royalsdever heard of the m1ps electric chopper scooter?
@DonaldMohrMusic
@DonaldMohrMusic Год назад
I rode the LiveWire once. My take on these is that really for 99% of the time, you should just be in Eco mode, where you get good range, and let's be honest, it's still beyond stupid fast. You open these modes up for specific uses, but the idea of riding on full power 100% of the time like you do on a modern 1k ICE bike I think is backwards. It should be more like, "Here's how it does in Eco Mode, damn that's still fast" and then you have face-melt fast for those times you're down to blast through a charge in the battery.
@ssoffshore5111
@ssoffshore5111 Год назад
Kudos to Energica and the CEO for making this review happen, and of course to Spite! While I'm not in the market for such a machine as I had little interest in an electric bike, the shear excitement of riding the Ribelle RS clearly came through and opened my eyes to at the minimum wanting to experience one firsthand at some point. The future looks exciting! Great review!
@EngineeringPerspective
@EngineeringPerspective Год назад
WOW!!! THANK YOU Spite and Magic Toaster!!!🏍️⚡️⚡️⚡️‼️‼️
@Magic_Toaster
@Magic_Toaster Год назад
Now your great audience needs new content 😀
@brazoon1
@brazoon1 Год назад
I think a lot of riders, myself included, want a powerful motorcycle so they can have it on tap when they need/want it but aren't necessarily going to use it all the time just because it's there. You aren't going to get much range on an ICE bike either if you're smashing the throttle all the time and at the price of gas these days, I can see the appeal in this electric bike.
@texasman1000able
@texasman1000able Год назад
the difference is 5 minutes to fill up and there's a gas station on every corner.
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 Год назад
They were charging $14.50 to charge fully ($0.675/kwhr where he was at with a 21.5 kwhr battery even at 100% efficiency), a sportbike would burn about 3 gallons (just under $10 currently) for similar range of 130-150 miles. So what's that about the cost of gas? You would save money if you're going to be taking a road trip by burning gas. Now if you had solar powered home or wind powered, sure, then you've got something (but it's a total pain to legally hook up your own DIY solar setup to anything tied to the grid)
@2lbsTrigrPull
@2lbsTrigrPull Год назад
This bike is like 30k. I can get a combustion engine bike new for under 10k which doesn't freaking weigh 260kg with a range of at least 300km. Am I ever consider electric bikes? NEVER.
@fetB
@fetB Год назад
​@@jakegarrett8109 cost of gas, you should also count the trillions spent in the war for it and lives lost. And theres also subsidization you're paying with tax dollars. Electricity is naturally cheaper and the only reason it is not, is because of the hurdles thrown in the way and big oil actually buying into the sector to keep prices high and gas attractive
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 Год назад
@@fetB So that's not entirely true, for example electric does not really just come out of the ground, you have to make it (often with natural gas, or where I'm from that's a huge majority of it). Since your conversion efficiency isn't 100%, your transferring away from the power station isn't 100%, your car charger isn't 100%, and your battery isn't 100% (and none are above 100%), physics says its less efficient. You may ask how many lives go towards "green energy", like a lot of child labor in lithium mines and that's just for the battery. Electric has all the above costs you mentioned because it doesn't come out of the air and often uses the same fuels you complained about. You think you aren't subsidizing electric with tax dollars? I'm close to the east coast, and they had about $120 in fees for $30 in electric, they were basically subsidizing the rich off the backs of the poor (make the electric cost almost nothing, so people in mansions would only be paying maybe $50 more than someone in a tiny shack), and if that's not subsidizing electric car ownership off the backs of the average and the poor, then I don't know what is.
@Amuzic_Earth
@Amuzic_Earth Год назад
About those mode changes and all, you were really nitpicking...as this really seems to be a good bike all around. The complaint about the eco mode having limited speed sounded like you were complaining for the sake of complaining, I mean you are complaining about a mode that's in addition to literally 3 other + custom mode, it's not less option, it's about having more options. It's the case with almost all EVs, it's there so that when you are in a soup, you just put it in eco mode and don't worry about being too fast and save the range. The point about cruise control seems more fair as they could have better control/UX but since this is software controlled everything can be changed eventually if Energica gets enough complaints and that's applicable to most other settings..that's the beauty of a software driven electric vehicle. The complaints about the charger reliability is also true. As of now, apart from Tesla, no other charging network is 100% reliable, it's a lot more reliable than what it was couple of years ago, but it has still some way to go. And that point about getting high mileage out of an EV by slowriding it while it's meant to be ridden faster is very true. Bdw, parking mode becomes absolutely necessary once you regularly start using it and get habituated. Overall the video is comprehensive and I thoroughly enjoyed the ride.. so, a like from me.
@mikehester9902
@mikehester9902 Год назад
"A half an hour for 90 miles in the tank is not that bad". Yeah, it kinda is.
@Critastic
@Critastic Год назад
Yeah it’s not that bad, it’s freaking terrible! These are just toys right now, they are nowhere near useful and won’t be for a long time.
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 Год назад
Wrong
@akey282
@akey282 Год назад
Unless there’s a Wally’s or a big ol convenience store, there’s no way to nicely kill time while it charges. Road trip in e vehicles aren’t so bad when you’re not actively watching your battery get charged and can enjoy the time in between 10-30 minutes can fly by
@ZoahPorre
@ZoahPorre Год назад
if its a place thats utilitarian (like the heb, which is a grocery store) 30 minutes spent is nothing... random parking lots? Yea, 30 minutes there is lame.
@lucaradu3343
@lucaradu3343 Год назад
I use my motorcycle for city commuting. 90 miles is what i do in 4 days. Different people have different needs.
@williamstilgoe61
@williamstilgoe61 Год назад
Not sure why the range changing due to how you ride it is an issue. Isn’t that exactly the same with an ice sports bike? Loved this review though.
@avarria5872
@avarria5872 Год назад
I would love one of these and will probably be in the market for one in a few years. Sadly, the price will have to come down some before I can afford it. Zero has been pulling some shady stuff with their pay-to-unlock fiasco. I respect Energica more. I just don't have the money for such a fine machine right now. Maybe when EVs become more common the price will drop.
@NewZeroland
@NewZeroland Год назад
Amazing review and really solid summary at the end. My only complaint is that you pronounced Energica wrong, but it's the way everybody in the US pronounces it lol.
@prophetzarquon1922
@prophetzarquon1922 Год назад
I've honestly never heard it pronounced any way but "enn-urr-jick-uh", but then again, I've never met an owner of one yet, either... ;D
@infinati
@infinati Год назад
So basically Spite is conflicted about the Energica because he lacks self control, lol!
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
Aww come on, it's not like I bought an red Italian money pit cuz it looked cool or something. I'm all good 😂
@Brimstonewolf
@Brimstonewolf Год назад
This is a pretty good review. I've actually had a Ribelle for just under a year, so close to hitting 10k miles! Took it from the UK down over the alps to Slovenia and back home via Berlin, absolutely amazing in the alpine switchbacks, a real purists riding experience since you don't have to constantly balance the engine/gears. I keep it in sport/full regen all the time, never bother with modes. Range hasn't been as big a deal as I expected, once you get up in the mountains 60% lasts a long time once the twisties get tight but on more open road you have to learn a little restraint. Motorways are the worst, avoiding them has been my big compromise but motorways suck on bikes anyway. I honestly think the range is enough, there are technical issues with thermal management on serial charge stops that would be a bigger priority for me but aren't feasible to solve yet.
@commantrosexetlos4700
@commantrosexetlos4700 Год назад
Motorbikes suffer on highway is not accurate bro...
@LongDistanceMotorcycleFans
@LongDistanceMotorcycleFans Год назад
What is your range?
@Brimstonewolf
@Brimstonewolf Год назад
@@LongDistanceMotorcycleFans depends on the conditions, usually average about 115 top to tail, but rarely use all of that. Up in the mountains it actually stretches longer because corners keep your speed down anyway, I could certainly have more but my experience is the range is "enough".
@mmistermusic
@mmistermusic Год назад
Nice to read positive real-life feedback of people actually riding the bike. It is useless to hear that the range is not enough, from people that never actually travelled with an electric bike. I did not do long travels with my zero DS. So I also can't really comment on it. What I see that in real live situations I can easily ride for 2 to 3 hours without recharging. Which is for me, also the time to take a break.
@andyfumo8931
@andyfumo8931 7 месяцев назад
Thermal management? How quickly do you connect the charger? General rule of thumb with lithium batteries is to let the battery rest and cool down before charging. Something charging stations don't intuit and you will degrade your battery faster. Have you experienced any degradation from your battery recently?
@T2daBikeGuy
@T2daBikeGuy Год назад
I Have Never Seen such Amazing Power with Grace That is Instant love
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat Год назад
I have a Surron Ultra Bee on the way. Its no electric rocket like this thing but for 6k its a steal. The biggest issue with electric now is really just cost. We already have borderline acceptable range and tons of power but the comparable ICE is like half the price. That being said never having to go to a gas station is priceless. Also in the case of a dirt bike, not making noise is a massive boost to let me ride in places I could never before.
@firestorm755
@firestorm755 10 месяцев назад
What a great review. I can relate to range issues. I've got a VTR 1000. 30mpg and a little tank so I can relate but when I fill up it's a few mins rather than half hour.
@RhoadesOnRoads
@RhoadesOnRoads Год назад
Definitely can’t deny that Energica has perfected the motorcycle exhaust note.
@Fee.1
@Fee.1 Год назад
spite why did you stop responding to people on your onlyfans ? Some people said you got suspended ? For what?
@ToolShow
@ToolShow Год назад
GREAT video. Details and objective, which is exactly what we need when searching for a new bike. Big fans of yours over here. Grats on 100k. Get that checkmark. Keep killing it man.
@sns_rulz
@sns_rulz Год назад
great video spite 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍 awesome.... love your music choices (intro and end)😛😛
@CasualRiders
@CasualRiders Год назад
Spite! Take a step back and look at what you are achieving on this channel!!! You've come such a long way in such a short time since your departure from YN!!! Keep up the great work 🎉👏🎉👏
@BlueWorldTV
@BlueWorldTV Год назад
Enjoyed the video. FYI, it's "foot-pounds" not "foot/pounds." (Torque units are one pound of force exerted over a moment of one foot which is force times distance. Not divided.)
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
It actually doesn't matter since foot pounds aren't foot per pound or pound per foot. Expressed mathmatically, they're not divided, they're multiplied, so the order doesn't matter. Torque=Force*Radius (lb*ft) but because math it can also be written Torque=Radius*Force (ft*lb) Edit: you are correct that I shouldn't be using the slash though. Gonna stop that. Sorry thought you were talking about order lol
@greenwave819
@greenwave819 Год назад
@@spitescorner yeah you were wrong and this guy above was right. own it!
@otaupdate3151
@otaupdate3151 Год назад
@@spitescorner You might also care to pay some attention to the difference between kW and kWh :)
@momonohomo150
@momonohomo150 Год назад
​@@spitescorneralso stop fake laughing it's incredibly annoying
@22smcrrider96
@22smcrrider96 Год назад
​@@momonohomo150people who comment only to say nothing that matters shouldn't comment. But since im sure you and spite hang out often you would know if his laugh is genuine or fake right
@2WheelPursuit
@2WheelPursuit Год назад
Wow I am so excited for this motorcycle. Great review Spite!
@therealkzero
@therealkzero Год назад
I have a 2018 Zero S, and a 2021 Livewire One and have done some reviews/updates on both. I REALLY want to get my hands on an Energica Eva Ribelle RS+ or an Energica Ego+. They're great looking bikes, and if Sam from NewZeroLand owns 3...you know they're damn good! Great video!
@heythereimkevin
@heythereimkevin Год назад
Great video! The extended giggle when you first started really says a lot. A friend of mine who has ridden his whole life has one and he loves it. Quick note: we should different mists between a few terms. Kilowatt = kW = the power rating of an electric motor (analogous to horsepower in an ICE). kWh = kilowatt-hour = the battery capacity (analogous to fuel in the tank, which gives you range). It’s super common to mix these up as they are very similar sounding but in terms of talking about a motorcycle they couldn’t be farther apart. You could build a bike with 100 kWh of battery for ridiculous range with a puny 10kW of power. The cool thing about the electric units though is that it’s easy to see how they relate. Our puny power long range bike should theoretically go for 10 hours at “full throttle” 10kW. 10kW * 10h = 100kWh. A bit of a simplification but helps understanding how a bike’s battery translates to range.
@neilreid2298
@neilreid2298 Год назад
I get the giggles part but I'm not ready to give up the glorious sound track of an ICE engine in a sport bike. For $25K, I can think of a couple other bikes I'd have instead. Interesting and well done review- thanks!
@P.M_M
@P.M_M Год назад
25k? Bloody hell, i can fully spec out a top trim GS1250 ADV for less than that lol. Or buy a streetfighter v4s... Deffo needs to drop ALOT in price.
@P.M_M
@P.M_M Год назад
@@SimonWoodburyForget then go buy an electric bicycle 😂😂🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️
@P.M_M
@P.M_M Год назад
@@SimonWoodburyForget then buy a Nissan Leaf.
@P.M_M
@P.M_M Год назад
@@SimonWoodburyForget but an Ariel atom then
@P.M_M
@P.M_M Год назад
@@SimonWoodburyForget an atom is much smaller than a leaf lol. Buy earplugs. Failing that go spend idiot money on a suped up leaf blower for the price of a small family car 😂
@ryanashley347
@ryanashley347 Год назад
Spite Rules!!!! Toaster Rules!!!
@monawoka97
@monawoka97 Год назад
Electric bikes are hard because the energy density per lb of battery storage is so much less then the energy density per lb of gasoline. Stoked for them in the long run though. The absolute simplicity of electric vehicles is so appealing to me.
@larryyoung1765
@larryyoung1765 Год назад
If I had money, and lived in a warmer state then I would definitely grab one of these. Hopefully they start improving the range on these things in the future.
@CaseyBDook
@CaseyBDook Год назад
Batteries are getting better over time. Cars are getting range about the same as ICE and charging to 80% as fast as 30 minutes. The new KIA as almost as fast in the quarter mile as a Lamborghini Aventadore.
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat Год назад
Batteries at a mass scale are still in its infancy. Im sure people are sick of hearing it but i bet even 10 years from now solid state or other new battery chemistries will become more mainstream and energy density WILL increase consistently with time. Just imagine 20% more range and power in the same package for the same price. That's the trend every 10 years give or take. ICE is lucky to get a few percent of efficiency every decade, its already a "maxed out" tech.
@rmzxr4395
@rmzxr4395 Год назад
@@CrossWindsPat10 years from now nobody will go anywhere near anything battery powered due to the fire risk.
@CrossWindsPat
@CrossWindsPat Год назад
@@rmzxr4395 Bro what fire risk lol. There is LITERALLY less than a one in a million chance your battery burst into flames. That is a real statistic. Stop spreading propaganda.
@3thundermonkey
@3thundermonkey Год назад
Damn the hair on the back of my neck stood up at how fast that got up to speed
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
It accelerates like nothing I've ridden before.
@Saint_Arod
@Saint_Arod Год назад
While I’m not a fan of e-motorcycles for multiple reasons, it’s hard to not admit how fun they are.
@sepro5135
@sepro5135 Год назад
Could you name some of them? I am genuinely interested. I for my part can see the current problems, but I think that there is also a lot of opportunity. For example would the weight of the battery and the construction of the motorcycle, if it was done right and the battery was split in 4 individual batteries, allow you to actually change the battery out for a fully charged one, at the gas station. This would really allow you to have zero charging time, if you want and it would allow you to make fast, long range trips, without having to constantly stop and wait for a while to charge.
@Saint_Arod
@Saint_Arod Год назад
@@sepro5135 That would be ideal but not really possible in the given infrastructure, you also have to take into account that there isn’t just one battery design. My issues are price compared to gas bikes, total range, and downtime (for now), ridiculous battery designs that are integrated into the chassis, as well as the ethical hypocrisy of how lithium is gathered when this is supposed to be a “green” alternative. On a more personal note I think the motorcycle designs are gaudy, lacking of a real exhaust note, no shifting (boring), and they have no character aside from going 0-60 really fast, which for a motorcycle isn’t really a selling point because they all do that.
@sepro5135
@sepro5135 Год назад
@@Saint_Arod Interesting points! When it comes to the hard facts, you are definitely right, although I feel like there is potential in the idea if swapping batteries (you just need a standardized system and just a little additional infrastructure). Although that may not make much sense in western countries, when you look at the streets and airquality of India for example, if the right technology is there, it could make a real difference. But that’s besides the point. Lithium is always an interesting case, as a lot of it is also mined under good working conditions, and it can make CO2 wise sense. But in the case of motorcycles I am not 100% sure about the latter. Concerning the design: I disagree, but I don’t have that sophisticated of a taste and to each his I suppose.
@Saint_Arod
@Saint_Arod Год назад
@@sepro5135 Yeah for sure, honestly not trying to rag on them those are just my reasons 😅. E-vehicles in general will definitely have a place in the future, but in the way of corporate soullessness that has found it’s place in every other faucet of life just leave my thumpers alone! There’s just a certain beauty that I found in mechanics that can’t compare, having each individual part come together in a living machine that you have complete control over is just unrivaled.
@sepro5135
@sepro5135 Год назад
@@Saint_Arod I feel you. My father has a Moto Guzzi California II and this bike has a character that you can’t get with a modern electric bike!
@justmayle
@justmayle Год назад
Awesome review. Normally all I get is Newzeroland showing me how much I want one of their bikes. Me, I was it for a commuter....but that price tag and the fact I'm rual.
@MrDavidEwert
@MrDavidEwert Год назад
I’ve had my Ribelle for three years now - it quickly become my primary vehicle. I did a 6,000 mile ride (round trip west coast to east coast), had no problems with the bike nor with charging. Do I wish I also had a gas bike as a back-up? Nope 😊
@zizhdizzabagus456
@zizhdizzabagus456 Год назад
Great. So how many miles u can actually get out of it if you trottle alot?
@ZoahPorre
@ZoahPorre Год назад
whats the actual range for you? I dont trust manufacturer numbers, ever.
@mmistermusic
@mmistermusic Год назад
@@ZoahPorre I can't answer your question for the energica. But I have a zero DS and the real live range numbers are mostly inline with the manufacturer numbers. And in practice it is even better. Because they state for example range at 112 km/h. And you think you ride 112 km/h on average. But in reality, in real live situations, your speed is lower. And the range is better. So for me the manufacturer numbers are even some what pessimistic.
@richardcerritelli9657
@richardcerritelli9657 Год назад
Let me ask you how in the world do you buy a motorcycle like this I'm in Connecticut we have no dealers anywhere around that I know of and the maintenance on these are electric bikes supposed to be bulletproof with no maintenance. And if something did go wrong I'm no mechanic how would I get it fixed
@jaromor8808
@jaromor8808 Год назад
@@mmistermusic So why don't you share the number for your bike?
@ericaworthington2675
@ericaworthington2675 Год назад
On price, consider zero maintenance and the savings of oil, filters, valve adjustments, etc., and the hassle of servicing. It all adds up over the years, so after 4 or 5 years the purchase price makes total sense. (That said, of course I wish it was cheaper up front)
@paul5683
@paul5683 Год назад
You'll be chewing up tires twice as fast. At least the rear tire, that you can count on.
@Magic_Toaster
@Magic_Toaster Год назад
win
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
It was a photo finish but RU-vid verified it!
@chriskennedy3018
@chriskennedy3018 Год назад
My take on the mileage thing is a bit skewed. I currently have a klx300 that’s heavily modified. If your nice to it the klx can see 65+ miles per gallon, I never see more than 45 because it’s fun as hell to ring it’s neck. That’s about 90 miles to a tank. Does not limit my fun on the bike just means I have to plan my adventures accordingly.
@cp4512
@cp4512 Год назад
Elec bikes are getting closer but not there yet for me. Much more range required.
@andyfumo8931
@andyfumo8931 7 месяцев назад
This one should be able to do double the 60 range at minimum with conservative riding
@OldDeltaBlue
@OldDeltaBlue Год назад
Awesome video and liking more electric motorcycle options. I still like the sound (weight and range 😜) of a 4-cyl engine but I also like differences electric bike offers. Also subscribed to @EV-Engineer 👍
@sharonbraselton3135
@sharonbraselton3135 Год назад
Buy it
@zoobrizz
@zoobrizz Год назад
As a rider. It’s all about the sound. 👎👎🤡☝️
@Forbes37
@Forbes37 Год назад
Good review. That Eva Ribelle looks gorgeous but strangely £25k in the UK which would be $30k 🤔 Ridiculously expensive. I own a Zero SRF but also a Triumph and Kawasaki. I agree with everything you said especially the conclusion at the end.
@punchbuggyyellow7097
@punchbuggyyellow7097 Год назад
It's got the Spite giggle of approval, so it's got me interested. And being an Italian bike that doesn't need constant servicing is always a plus. That range though...... It's just got the range for a Nasho run - Royal National Park, south of Sydney, our local version of the Nürburgring - but that would get old real quick. There's a lot of other brilliant rides around Sydney, but it would take more than half the charge just to get there & back, leaving not a lot in the tank for pure giggle time. With our local charging infrastructure still being in the stone age you probably wouldn't risk the ride anyway. When charging infrastructure improves & battery manufacturing hits critical mass, lowering the cost, I'm all in, but for now it's a "not yet" from me.
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
I'm in a very similar place. I think these bikes are so much fun, but the range and charge times still hold them back. I'm definitely going to be watching what Energica does in the next few years though, they're crushing it right now.
@mrspeigle1
@mrspeigle1 Год назад
Give it time Bros. It's still early days, range will go up, charging times down and public chargers are going to get as common as gas stations in a few years.
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 Год назад
@@mrspeigle1the problem charging cost are a major obstacle, even more expensive then standard fuel!
@uralbob1
@uralbob1 Год назад
Fantastic review! Exciting and very interesting motorcycle. Thanks!
@REDSIX
@REDSIX Год назад
I wanted to hate this bike but I rode one and bought one later that day. One of the best bikes I've ever had. That was 20k miles ago and back in 2017
@EMarSounds
@EMarSounds Год назад
It sounds like a jet, which I think sounds a lot nicer/cleaner than any petrol engine
@hikingwithchris
@hikingwithchris Год назад
Looks like a blast to ride but yeah, I can't get past the range and charge time issue. Another great video!
@2lbsTrigrPull
@2lbsTrigrPull Год назад
The only problems for you? Have you seen the price? And 260kg for this bike? All no no points.
@Breaking_Beard
@Breaking_Beard Год назад
Bro sounds like he fell in the lava. 9:13
@Kraken9911
@Kraken9911 Год назад
I'd buy the normal ribelle but the price in the first world market is 25k USD? I can't even imagine how much it would be in the Philippines. They'd probably have it around 35-40k USD after all the usual tax markups. Couldn't justify it when that's luxury automobile territory already. That jet whine is amazing and that's THROUGH the mic of a tiny cam. In person it must be intense.
@buckrogers2546
@buckrogers2546 Год назад
I admit I've been hating on the electric bikes forever but this one is pretty dang cool, it fast and it sounds futuristic . Your doing a fine outstanding job Spite.👍
@derekgaliee4351
@derekgaliee4351 Год назад
Awesome Channel Spike 👍☺️
@evolv.e
@evolv.e Год назад
Been riding 31 years. My Enérgica Ribelle is by far, the best bike I’ve ever thrown a leg over. Nice review! ⚡️💨
@jakegarrett8109
@jakegarrett8109 Год назад
If that meter in the video was right, they were charging $14.50 to charge fully ($0.675/kwhr is what it came out to, with a 21.5 kwhr battery even at 100% efficiency), similar range a sportbike would burn 3 gallons, about $10 in fuel for 120-150 miles.
@Magic_Toaster
@Magic_Toaster Год назад
The real advantage is that you can charge at home for cheap, I pay $0.09/kwh. There also a lot of free chargers or outlets for you plug your charger in if you're stopped anywhere for a bit. DC chargers are outrageous right now with their prices and there's not much standardization yet for them. I just can't wait until tesla opens up their superchargers to non tesla vehicles, those all seem to actually work. The only DC chargers that haven't failed me yet are the ones set up at the Harley dealers and I always have a great conversation with the guys I meet there
@Fortis_1337
@Fortis_1337 Год назад
It looks quite good actually, kinda reminds me of the mt10 🤩
@enntense
@enntense Год назад
More like an MT10, but with you carrying around the leftover $10,000 in your pocket..ouch..
@fotoamgamgfoto3695
@fotoamgamgfoto3695 Год назад
I am saving money for the Experia with touring pack. It is slower but I am into more range and storage place. It has around 220km real range if you don't go too fast and accelerate often, but ride around 90kmph at ECO. The Zero has only a 80-90kms range if you go fast. My current ebike (Motron Vizion, which is a smaller copy of this) has a max 50km range if I only go at 25-30kmph amd dont stop or accelerate. At city it has max 38km range at 40kmph max allowed speed for a bike without plate number here. If I unlock speed limit and ride at 70-75kmph it has about a 15km range only. Recharge time is 5hours.... So very hard to cross the country....
@columbo517
@columbo517 Год назад
I do wish that bikes like this would lean into the futuristic styling instead of just repeating the same stuff you get from normal bikes. I'd also like a more simple minimalist styling. A return to Form from function would be really nice and would suite these bike really well
@monokheros5373
@monokheros5373 Год назад
genni in the support vehicle... or in the saddle bags of a harley (they wont notice the extra weight) there you go! fun and range!!
@Claimjumper55
@Claimjumper55 Год назад
That was entertaining. It's got to be really hard for the EV companies to deal with the weight, range, battery life issues but I'm glad they keep trying. These could really become more viable in the future as they're building a lot of new nuclear power plants around the world. Should I decide to get into electric motorcycles, Energica is where I'd look first. Thanks to Magic Toaster for his help in making this a reality.
@liamtuthill4683
@liamtuthill4683 Год назад
Sorry, what’s nuclear got to do with it?
@Claimjumper55
@Claimjumper55 Год назад
@Liam Tuthill Many states and countries have stressed power grids already. Increasing the percentage of EV's, which is a huge priority for a lot of these places, will only amplify the problem. Fortunately, many of these places are trying to get ahead of the problem by building new nuclear reactors or extending the life of the existing plants.
@alishanmao
@alishanmao Год назад
I have tested and posted videos of many electric scooters, ridden electric motorcycles. they can't compete ICE motorcycles. in the beginning it all comes to oh wow, what a torque, speed, what a quick acceleration lara lara lara la, but then look at how it drains the juice. if you want more range, you have to drive ridiculously slow all the time. punch throttle and you sacrifice battery. and then comes the most annoying part., the winter. in winter battery does not give you that much performance at all that you would need. electric still needs to go a long way to beat ICE.
@lukasHenchman
@lukasHenchman Год назад
u dont use eco mode if you are going on a motorway, it limits engine power and speed, it's a good thing, slower accelaration and less top speed, but your millage probably almost doubles
@tonytesoriero1242
@tonytesoriero1242 Год назад
Where this would be really good is if you charge it in your garage at night then ride it to work and around and then recharge at home again never going to the gas station no oil changes
@dr.fruityboots4706
@dr.fruityboots4706 Год назад
Of i had 25 grand and was looking to spend that much on a bike i think it would be my first choice. I think that bike is amazing but to be honest that kind of money sounds crazy to me when you can get so many fast bikes cheeper. Maybe not as cool though and definitely not as unique. I love the looks like Ducati and triumph built a bike together.
@MarkTurkel
@MarkTurkel Год назад
Really sexy looking bike, the performance....well the laughter every time you twist the throttle says something VERY positiive. I agree that we're not ready for 100% electric, but as a secondary bike... it is definitely on the short list! Great video - thanks! I'm the author of "Ride Captains and Tail-Gunners".
@nokintendo9132
@nokintendo9132 Год назад
My first bike is a Tao Leo, 72V 40ah (upgrading to a 60ah), 5000w motor. A ninja 300 clone.
@techtubes3981
@techtubes3981 Год назад
Just added this video to our electric motorcycle playlist!
@ApriliaRSA250
@ApriliaRSA250 Год назад
The riding position being similar to the Tuono is interesting as the TFT looks the same unit as the '17-'20 Tuono. Maybe some shared development. Those are nice stock mirrors too.
@spitescorner
@spitescorner Год назад
The dash is from the same supplier as the the Tuono, I forget the name, but I think it's from Sweden 🤔
@leonardbartley5670
@leonardbartley5670 Год назад
Like the Live Wire I considered both of these as rich boy driveway ornaments. Looky here what I have.
@psalm2forliberty577
@psalm2forliberty577 8 месяцев назад
Yawn....I'll keep rocking my K8 V-Strom 650. If they can sell me one of those for $4,000 & include a 1,000,000 mile extension cord, MAYBE ?!?
@robertlattanzi1016
@robertlattanzi1016 Год назад
Great complete review. I want one but at $25k the market is filled with too many bikes, and more dealers. Several Ducati one offs models only has range of 125 miles but they are at the $15k range.
@MoniJohnson
@MoniJohnson Год назад
Af1Racing in Austin is my favorite dealership, hands down.
@mathias6423
@mathias6423 Год назад
I remember Magic Toaster from the meme contests on another channel Im not subscribed to anymore. Seems like a nice dude. Maybe he could join Spite's corner! Im sure it would make the channel even better. Thank you for a good video on the bike, Im not as anti-electric motorcycle as I was before.
@Magic_Toaster
@Magic_Toaster Год назад
i agree
@fullmetalcorgi1350
@fullmetalcorgi1350 Год назад
They say FullMetal Corgi is like Magic Toaster, but with better memes.
@SkeenDogger
@SkeenDogger Год назад
I sold my ICE drag car for a performance Tesla and have never looked back. I can't wait until I can sell my new Ninja ZX10R for something electric and faster just like my Tesla.
@JoTokutora
@JoTokutora Год назад
Give you an editing tip. On your very first shot. Dont start with a wide shot of the bike because that suppose to be a reveal after you say "OH" You kill the gag starting with the reveal.
@gumonthepants
@gumonthepants Год назад
I just started using this to "race" in Ride 4 and beat most other bikes in the beginning laps but it eats through tires way too quickly then I begin sliding all over the track and losing. Still working on suspension tweaks to rectify the issue. UPDATE: Though the wear is still rapid I’m having much better grip with Pirelli Diablo Rosso 3’s. I had Bridgestone Batalax on it that were slippery.
@chrisdigital
@chrisdigital Год назад
Bring that bike up here to New Hampshire and let me know how far you get. Try and take one good ride and you'll be getting a tow truck home.
@rayseaman6204
@rayseaman6204 Год назад
BAH ! HUMBUG ! You young Whipper Snappers just keep riding your little electric thingies / vibrators , I'm gonna go ride a REAL MOTORCYCLE ! One that burns Gas and Oil the way the Good Lord intended them too ! Bunch of Limp Wrist Girly Men ! SHEESH !!! ... ... ... By the way, Spite, Good Review !
@marcse7en
@marcse7en Год назад
Now I'm rich, I might have to look into Electric Motorcycles! ... The sound is cool, but is also reminiscent of a Washing Machine, with a brushed universal motor, in spin mode! How much does this bad boy cost? I assume much of the weight will be the batteries? "Regenerative Braking?" ... I'm assuming that uses the motion of the bike to turn the motor into a generator to recharge the battery, and also to slow the bike down? Utilising otherwise wasted energy? I'm considering learning to ride a motorcycle, so I'm not familiar with biking acronyms, but I've worked out that "ICE" means "Internal Combustion Engine!" ... I'm smart! Very smart! 👍🤣
@drunkredninja
@drunkredninja Год назад
Cool review. Still range issues for me dawg. I live in Cali where I can go to the coast and back in 1 day ~300 miles but there's a serious lack of charging infrastructure between metro hubs.
@iskinmind7020
@iskinmind7020 Год назад
Nice machine. But way too expensive. Especially considering the fact that batteries tend to degrade with each charge cycle. It is less of an issue with electric cars that have a huge battery range (because you do not charge them as frequently). But any owner of a small capacity electric car or a hybrid will tell you that these 20-40kW batteries go away FAST. Both in terms of range, and in terms of life expectancy. This is (imo) still a not very practical substitute for an electric bike in terms of commuting, and also impractical for longer journeys. An epic toy though.
@enntense
@enntense Год назад
Hey it's only $5k more than a KTM 1290 superduke....ouch...And I know you said about 1/2 hr on the charger for 90 miles..But how long does it take you to find a charge station?..
@estebanod
@estebanod Год назад
To me there's a few pros and cons Pros: it's electric so it's quick and you don't have to pay for expensive gas Cons: it’s electric so no good sound and you have to wait longer to charge than you would with a ICE bike, and the smaller range (in rural European villages with 50 habitants there is no electric chargers), and it's italian I’m almost convinced though, would need to hear the opinion of someone who daily drived it for multiple weeks, and imo it is not worth the price yet
@LowkeyAnnie
@LowkeyAnnie 7 месяцев назад
Well, if the giggle factor that came from, Spite, has any indication of how this electric bike performs, there may be a niche place for these bikes down the track. It seems the charge time is the main problem which comes to buying one? Early days...
@Burlehmangus
@Burlehmangus Год назад
I guess you could argue the cruise control being a reach for your thumb is a built in “safety” since there’s no forward to kill option…accidentally setting it without realizing it becomes less likely with it so far away….you really have to be present to set it. Also, the eco mode set speed is just part of it being electric. People seem to forget that when you’re in a single speed electric it’s very simple, more speed = higher rpm and more power draw….(this is why I’m all for electric bikes with 6 speed transmissions becoming the norm). Though I guess then you have to input other cutoff features to prevent fools from accidentally putting in in 6th at 10mph and goosing it and burning the motor up.
@bajo
@bajo Год назад
I'm so excited for these, but I really hope energica make a lighter
@hartle4
@hartle4 Год назад
I know a guy with a tesla where after 2 years and 120,000 miles it now will not make a 156 miles trip without being charged at the rest in the trip. Will these lower capacity batteries see the same depreciation in the same amount of time
@ridenm7748
@ridenm7748 Год назад
Yes
@wubstepgrandma
@wubstepgrandma Год назад
When Mama Benz took the first road trip gasoline was something you only got in pharmacies. Wood and water are everywhere. Steam is supreme right? Infrastructure will catch up it's only a matter of time.
@MICHAEL-ys3pu
@MICHAEL-ys3pu Год назад
Don’t think battery bikes will catch on in Australia, a ride here with your mates can be up to 400 kilometres for the day and how would you charge it. If there was any were to change it you would spend more time changing than riding.
@petera2421
@petera2421 Год назад
great review …. please looking into lane positioning on a motorcycle …. you had range anxiety …while i had anxiety from you riding without any form of lane blocking … typing this cause i care bro… 😊
@salsamancer
@salsamancer Год назад
a red Eva? I'm disappointed it doesn't have four headlights. What a missed opportunity
@mattbandfield
@mattbandfield Год назад
Dude, Spite, your channel is killing it. Great job man. I’m loving your content. Kill’n it. Thanks dude, keep it up.
@tallspaceturtle9117
@tallspaceturtle9117 Год назад
Great video with great points I have to disagree I’ve pulled into gas stations where all the pumps were down for one reason or another not common but it happens My Olny real problem with electric vehicles all together besides charging Times is the tec they “fix”something that is not broken with a menu of options like switching modes could be fixed with a simple plastic switch on the screen or added to the bars
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